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Drake Maye’s weaknesses alarming?

RELICDOA : 4/25/2024 12:55 pm
Below is the NFL.com breakdown. Considering the pro game is much faster and much more difficult to digest his short comings will be exposed against much stiffer comp. Included JJM’s strengths and weaknesses for comparison.


Strengths
Two years of starting experience and still very moldable.
Two-time team captain with prototypical size and frame.
Ball comes off his hand with tight spiral and good velocity.
Can expedite operation time and release when pressure closes in.
Unquestionable arm talent to connect from challenging angles.
Fearless passer with the guts and arm to whip the ball into tight windows.
Quick pocket climber with discipline to continue searching for targets.
Mobility to slide free of pocket traffic and toughness to go get needed yards.
Showed flashes of the clutch gene during his career.

Weaknesses
Struggles with the chess match against pressure looks.
Inefficient throwing motion creates inconsistencies in accuracy.
Receivers had to chase too many intermediate throws into the turf.
Leaves the ball behind crossing routes and RPO targets.
Can get uncomfortable when initial reads aren’t clear and clean.
Sixteen career interceptions were mostly earned with poor decisions or throws.

In comparison to JJ Mcarthy

Strengths
Plays with a chip on his shoulder and intensifies focus when needed.
Plenty of experience working under center in pro-style passing scheme.
Won’t hesitate to slide and find new launch points when pressure builds.
Adequate ability to locate throwing windows versus zone.
Makes drive throws between defenders with good decisiveness.
Delivers the ball smoothly on rollouts and in scramble mode.
One of the draft’s most efficient quarterbacks operating out of structure.
Toughness to deliver throws when taking a hit and squeeze out extra yards as runner.

Weaknesses
Sluggish getting through progressions and can get stuck on first read.
Modest arm strength might be magnified by windup in his delivery.
Ball placement on tape belies completion percentage on the stat sheet.
Leaves throws behind moving targets, allowing defenders to challenge catches.
Deep balls need to come out quicker and with more air under them.
Timing improved during the season but still crowds receivers to coverage.
Average escapability as a runner when scrambling.
I'd argue they all have alarming weaknesses  
widmerseyebrow : 4/25/2024 12:58 pm : link
Moreso after the top 2, but all of them.
In other words  
widmerseyebrow : 4/25/2024 12:59 pm : link
It'll be easy to say "I told you so!" if any of their careers are sub par.
There is no perfect prospect.  
larryflower37 : 4/25/2024 1:01 pm : link
Let the guys that get paid to do their job do their job.
he  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2024 1:02 pm : link
and McCarthy are not fully cooked. Both are still babies.
Lance Zerlien had  
jvm52106 : 4/25/2024 1:04 pm : link
A Jay Cutler pro comparison for Mahomes coming out in 2017..
Not fully cooked babies is both  
George from PA : 4/25/2024 1:06 pm : link
Good and Bad.

The best thing is Daboll is a QB whisperer.

My worry is that Daniel Jones weaknesses in reading D's or  
GiantBlue : 4/25/2024 1:06 pm : link
understanding pre-snap shifts and formations was never improved upon either by Daniel or by the coaches.

I know that some of it is inherent and you are born with it.....but reading the field, understanding shifts, stunts, blitzes can also be learned with experience and playing time.

I would expect that Maye or JJ would learn it if it was a deficiency. I am shocked, frankly, that Jones never learned it to ascend his game into a top 10 QB.

He has other attributes that could have driven up his value, imho, if he learned those key points.
Always noticed Maye’s elongated  
M.S. : 4/25/2024 1:17 pm : link

Throwing motion. Reminded me a little of Daniel Jones.
McCarthy...  
Capt. Don : 4/25/2024 1:26 pm : link
"modest arm strength"...?

That isnt what I see, nor is it something that ive heard from others. Sometimes I think Lance gets too nitpicky.

I mentioned this in another thread. Lance didnt give a single player in this draft a "pro bowl talent" level grade. Not one.
 
ryanmkeane : 4/25/2024 1:29 pm : link
Sure they both have weaknesses. Now read both strengths and tell me which one you want Daboll molding.
RE: McCarthy...  
Strahan91 : 4/25/2024 1:31 pm : link
In comment 16486237 Capt. Don said:
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"modest arm strength"...?

That isnt what I see, nor is it something that ive heard from others. Sometimes I think Lance gets too nitpicky.

I mentioned this in another thread. Lance didnt give a single player in this draft a "pro bowl talent" level grade. Not one.

Here's Cosell on JJ's arm strength fwiw:
"Doesn't have a naturally strong arm. Needs a firm base with his front foot pointing to the target to drive the ball with velocity. Some deeper intermediate and deep throws lose energy on the back end. Has a good arm but not an explosive arm."
Those  
AcidTest : 4/25/2024 1:55 pm : link
reviews are why I would strongly prefer not to trade up for either of them. The both have too many holes in their game to justify doing so.
Maye threw half of his interceptions this season in just three games  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/25/2024 2:26 pm : link
that his best receiver was ineligible for.
Reviews  
stretch234 : 4/25/2024 3:36 pm : link
The reason why you don’t give up draft assets for any of these guys

We can bitch all we want but Daboll has had Jones play 22 games under him with a playoff win. I am still not convinced they are ready to fully move off a guy they paid after 5 games in 24

For all anyone knows Daboll may still believe he can win with Jones.
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