I suspect we can't hear anything until after the Commanders pick.
Everything is contingent on them taking Daniels.
With reports of us perhaps getting giving a king's ransom, I'm honestly hoping the Commies take Maye and we get JD (my favorite prospect in the draft) or JJM.
The Giants are idiots if they trade up to #3 with NE
I feel like Andy Dufresne crawling through 6 years of shit smelling foulness, and I can see the end of the pipe.
You are a hard man to please.
I interpreted this to mean that GT liked what you're hearing, and frankly I was surprised by that.
I may be mis-reading.
Maye isn't my favorite of the bunch but that's an evaluation opinion. The important thing is they would actually be trying to get better at QB, and can finally start building something instead of spinning their wheels like they have been.
They have to be confident they can get to 4. That 3 team trade could be what it is.
As an aside, if NE gets McCarthy and Aiyuk, that's a great start for them.
They could get Mitchell or Leggette or Morgan or Seumalia at 34. I wouldn't trade 34 for Aiyuk, I would trade 47 and a conditional 25 4th/3rd though.
Either Schoen passed the deal we have in place with AZ over to NE, or NE preferred a bigger haul and to take their chances. I think the 3 team exchange could be much less costly for us. That's my hope.
Consider a much less expensive trade up with LAC to get #5.
Or just sit at #6, assume LAC takes WR Nabers or OT Alt and just take Maye at #6.
If Minnesota jumps ahead, just take Nabers at #6.
Good chance they lose Maye to Minnesota if played like that. The best play is to use the negotiated deal with AZ to give NE the opportunity to get JJM at 4, then we get Maye at 3 and AZ gets Nabers/MHJ at 6. That would cost a lot less and be very wise of Schoen.
RE: The Giants are idiots if they trade up to #3 with NE
I feel like Andy Dufresne crawling through 6 years of shit smelling foulness, and I can see the end of the pipe.
You are a hard man to please.
I interpreted this to mean that GT liked what you're hearing, and frankly I was surprised by that.
I may be mis-reading.
Maye isn't my favorite of the bunch but that's an evaluation opinion. The important thing is they would actually be trying to get better at QB, and can finally start building something instead of spinning their wheels like they have been.
got it. that's where I thought you were. For me, the future #1 throws everything out the window into "bad" territory. I can appreciate the point about conviction and QB-focus, just too much downside in it for me.
As I have frequently found myself doing in recent years, here's to hoping I'm dead wrong.
about next year's #1, if the QB they get is the guy that can get under center and lead this team to wins, it is worth the capital. Nothing good comes cheap.
I am not holding my breath. And even if they get one of McCarthy or Maye, they will not likely be starting until game 12 at the earliest and maybe even not until next year. Both have lost of work to catch up on.
RE: The Giants are idiots if they trade up to #3 with NE
Consider a much less expensive trade up with LAC to get #5.
Or just sit at #6, assume LAC takes WR Nabers or OT Alt and just take Maye at #6.
If Minnesota jumps ahead, just take Nabers at #6.
Lol... you don't seem to understand deal makong, no offense. If you have a top 10 QB in your sights, according to your coach, you fucking do it. There are too many moving parts to wait. Waiting is for losers.
I'd love to get Maye without sacrificing the 2025 1st, but that shouldn't be a deal-breaker at all.
What happens if the Giants don't go QB this year and are stuck with a pick in the 6-10 range in 2025? Not only do you HAVE to trade up for a QB, but you're likely doing so for a prospect worse than Maye (and possibly McCarthy). Get the guy now and everything else will fall into place
really - it's like anybody but Jones - anybody. Its even for the QBs that NE discarded - LOL
2018 draft, Josh Allen was QB3, Lamar Jackson was QB5. You do understand that even if Maye is QB 3, that he is allowed to play as well or better than QB 1 and/or QB2, right?
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next year is criminal.
I tend to agree.
I really hope we don't trade our first rounder next year.
I heard that today, but it wasn't from the Giants side... it was 6, 70, 1st next year and a couple other picks mixed in.
But I'm just a fan. I've learned that these guys put the work in the evaluations and have to be trusted for better or worse.
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I feel like Andy Dufresne crawling through 6 years of shit smelling foulness, and I can see the end of the pipe.
You are a hard man to please.
Eric, I think he means he is happy…
Yeah it was another way of saying he finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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I feel like Andy Dufresne crawling through 6 years of shit smelling foulness, and I can see the end of the pipe.
You are a hard man to please.
That's my way of saying I am happy. Almost, anyway.
Not if we hit a home run with a QB
If we whiff again, disaster. But I don’t mind Schoen and Daboll shooting their shot
Mara probably likes JJM better because he's more handsome, therefore better face of the franchise. And I wish I was being sarcastic.
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I feel like Andy Dufresne crawling through 6 years of shit smelling foulness, and I can see the end of the pipe.
You are a hard man to please.
I interpreted this to mean that GT liked what you're hearing, and frankly I was surprised by that.
I may be mis-reading.
Everything is contingent on them taking Daniels.
Also the NFL and networks really want this. It’s 20 years ago almost to the day Eli was drafted. That’s a HUGE story.
Yea.. we'll never recover.
As an aside, if NE gets McCarthy and Aiyuk, that's a great start for them.
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next year is criminal.
Not if we hit a home run with a QB
If we whiff again, disaster. But I don’t mind Schoen and Daboll shooting their shot
There's no disaster here. We're already in a disaster.
Everything is contingent on them taking Daniels.
With reports of us perhaps getting giving a king's ransom, I'm honestly hoping the Commies take Maye and we get JD (my favorite prospect in the draft) or JJM.
Arizona takes WR MHJ at #4.
Consider a much less expensive trade up with LAC to get #5.
Or just sit at #6, assume LAC takes WR Nabers or OT Alt and just take Maye at #6.
If Minnesota jumps ahead, just take Nabers at #6.
Oh yeah. Justin Pugh, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple, Evan Engram, dare I say Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, DeAndre Baker, Evan Neal.
I'll take our chances.
Either Eric is confident or he feels like fuck it 😊
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I feel like Andy Dufresne crawling through 6 years of shit smelling foulness, and I can see the end of the pipe.
You are a hard man to please.
I interpreted this to mean that GT liked what you're hearing, and frankly I was surprised by that.
I may be mis-reading.
Maye isn't my favorite of the bunch but that's an evaluation opinion. The important thing is they would actually be trying to get better at QB, and can finally start building something instead of spinning their wheels like they have been.
Is that a Chili’s advertisement?
‘When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose.’
‘When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose.’
So fucking true.
As an aside, if NE gets McCarthy and Aiyuk, that's a great start for them.
They could get Mitchell or Leggette or Morgan or Seumalia at 34. I wouldn't trade 34 for Aiyuk, I would trade 47 and a conditional 25 4th/3rd though.
Either Schoen passed the deal we have in place with AZ over to NE, or NE preferred a bigger haul and to take their chances. I think the 3 team exchange could be much less costly for us. That's my hope.
You have to give something to get something.
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we are hosed.
Oh yeah. Justin Pugh, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple, Evan Engram, dare I say Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, DeAndre Baker, Evan Neal.
I'll take our chances.
This. You take the shot.
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we are hosed.
Oh yeah. Justin Pugh, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple, Evan Engram, dare I say Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, DeAndre Baker, Evan Neal.
I'll take our chances.
Plus a million!
Either Eric is confident or he feels like fuck it 😊
Well, it's a pretty big deal too.
For better or worse, this is one of the most important decisions this franchise has made.
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we are hosed.
Oh yeah. Justin Pugh, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple, Evan Engram, dare I say Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, DeAndre Baker, Evan Neal.
I'll take our chances.
ITA
Arizona takes WR MHJ at #4.
Consider a much less expensive trade up with LAC to get #5.
Or just sit at #6, assume LAC takes WR Nabers or OT Alt and just take Maye at #6.
If Minnesota jumps ahead, just take Nabers at #6.
Good chance they lose Maye to Minnesota if played like that. The best play is to use the negotiated deal with AZ to give NE the opportunity to get JJM at 4, then we get Maye at 3 and AZ gets Nabers/MHJ at 6. That would cost a lot less and be very wise of Schoen.
Arizona takes WR MHJ at #4.
Consider a much less expensive trade up with LAC to get #5.
Or just sit at #6, assume LAC takes WR Nabers or OT Alt and just take Maye at #6.
If Minnesota jumps ahead, just take Nabers at #6.
If the cost is a #1 next year.....I agree.
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In comment 16486807 Go Terps said:
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I feel like Andy Dufresne crawling through 6 years of shit smelling foulness, and I can see the end of the pipe.
You are a hard man to please.
I interpreted this to mean that GT liked what you're hearing, and frankly I was surprised by that.
I may be mis-reading.
Maye isn't my favorite of the bunch but that's an evaluation opinion. The important thing is they would actually be trying to get better at QB, and can finally start building something instead of spinning their wheels like they have been.
got it. that's where I thought you were. For me, the future #1 throws everything out the window into "bad" territory. I can appreciate the point about conviction and QB-focus, just too much downside in it for me.
As I have frequently found myself doing in recent years, here's to hoping I'm dead wrong.
I am not holding my breath. And even if they get one of McCarthy or Maye, they will not likely be starting until game 12 at the earliest and maybe even not until next year. Both have lost of work to catch up on.
Arizona takes WR MHJ at #4.
Consider a much less expensive trade up with LAC to get #5.
Or just sit at #6, assume LAC takes WR Nabers or OT Alt and just take Maye at #6.
If Minnesota jumps ahead, just take Nabers at #6.
Agreed.
I can tell you GoDeep said McCarthy still in play at 3 and Rico said Maye at 3.
Arizona takes WR MHJ at #4.
Consider a much less expensive trade up with LAC to get #5.
Or just sit at #6, assume LAC takes WR Nabers or OT Alt and just take Maye at #6.
If Minnesota jumps ahead, just take Nabers at #6.
Lol... you don't seem to understand deal makong, no offense. If you have a top 10 QB in your sights, according to your coach, you fucking do it. There are too many moving parts to wait. Waiting is for losers.
I can't confirm anything.
I'm merely the conduit for other sources.
I still wouldn't bet $100 that this was a done deal because I know what has happened in the past with deals falling apart.
My understanding is it is for Maye.
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we are hosed.
Oh yeah. Justin Pugh, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple, Evan Engram, dare I say Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, DeAndre Baker, Evan Neal.
I'll take our chances.
That's an argument to get better scouts, not an argument to "give up the farm," especially for a QB who had a subpar 2023.
Fear of risk
Fear of pouncing
Good teams strike
What happens if the Giants don't go QB this year and are stuck with a pick in the 6-10 range in 2025? Not only do you HAVE to trade up for a QB, but you're likely doing so for a prospect worse than Maye (and possibly McCarthy). Get the guy now and everything else will fall into place
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That if the move to #3 does in fact happen,it would be for Maye (not McCarthy)?
I can't confirm anything.
I'm merely the conduit for other sources.
I still wouldn't bet $100 that this was a done deal because I know what has happened in the past with deals falling apart.
My understanding is it is for Maye.
I honestly checked if I could make a parlay prop bet and it's not allowed in my state ha.
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we are hosed.
Oh yeah. Justin Pugh, Ereck Flowers, Eli Apple, Evan Engram, dare I say Saquon Barkley, Daniel Jones, DeAndre Baker, Evan Neal.
I'll take our chances.
That's an argument to get better scouts, not an argument to "give up the farm," especially for a QB who had a subpar 2023.
But Daboll must be saying I can make Maye great. You don't wait, you don't dither.
Josh Allen was qb 4 Lamar 5. This narrative sucks.
2018 draft, Josh Allen was QB3, Lamar Jackson was QB5. You do understand that even if Maye is QB 3, that he is allowed to play as well or better than QB 1 and/or QB2, right?