The giants have access to JJM/Penix/Nix level qb prospect next year than a Nabers level non-qb premium position prospect next year, so I personally think they made the right call. Maybe I’m overvaluing consensus opinion but teams weren’t trying to trade up ahead of us for Penix or JJM, so I don’t think Schoen was on an island in his assessment.
I wanted a Maye trade to happen but if the top 3 teams don’t want to move your hands are tied. So it’s elite blue chip wr, a 32 AAV position vs 2nd tier qb prospect. That’s the decision.
I hope you're right but I fear you will be wrong. JJM was rated 84 by SY as an example (It;s not like SY was the only 1 who had JJM rated very high.).. QB's are exponentially more improtant than a WR.
Think about it-- SY's ceiling for JJM was Joe Burrow. Nabors celing can never be Burrow.
Nabers ceiling is Rice - no diff
Thanks for teh comedy.
Seeign how you are makign things up- I can also live in the same fanasy world you live in and say JJM's ceiling is Mahomes/Brady.
You see how easy it is for me to make things up like you did?
I hope you're right but I fear you will be wrong. JJM was rated 84 by SY as an example (It;s not like SY was the only 1 who had JJM rated very high.).. QB's are exponentially more improtant than a WR.
Think about it-- SY's ceiling for JJM was Joe Burrow. Nabors celing can never be Burrow.
I 100% respect Sy’s opinion, I’m sure a lot of skilled evaluators had him stacked similar but the Giants clearly didn’t, they would have picked him at 6 given their trade efforts for Maye. Their actions dictate a tier break after Maye. They could be wrong and they might be, but it doesn’t look like the Vikings were that convicted either because they didn’t act with a ton of urgency themselves. They waited until 1 pick in front to move on him when it was widely reported they were in on Maye and negotiating with NE as well. So you can safely assume it was a similar eval situation. It’s unlikely the Giants will have access to a similar prospect to Maye either, but I don’t think it's crazy to see them having access to a 2nd tier quy.
The giants have access to JJM/Penix/Nix level qb prospect next year than a Nabers level non-qb premium position prospect next year, so I personally think they made the right call. Maybe I’m overvaluing consensus opinion but teams weren’t trying to trade up ahead of us for Penix or JJM, so I don’t think Schoen was on an island in his assessment.
I wanted a Maye trade to happen but if the top 3 teams don’t want to move your hands are tied. So it’s elite blue chip wr, a 32 AAV position vs 2nd tier qb prospect. That’s the decision.
I hope you're right but I fear you will be wrong. JJM was rated 84 by SY as an example (It;s not like SY was the only 1 who had JJM rated very high.).. QB's are exponentially more improtant than a WR.
Think about it-- SY's ceiling for JJM was Joe Burrow. Nabors celing can never be Burrow.
Could fall all the way to Buffalo at 28. That's incredible and would be a coup for them. Who is going to take BTR before that pick?
Phi - No
Min - Unlikely
Dal - Doubtful
Green Bay - Maybe? But I'm thinking defense here.
Tampa Bay - Intriguing, but WR room is pretty crowded.
Ari - Just took MHJ... would they really go back to back?
Could fall all the way to Buffalo at 28. That's incredible and would be a coup for them. Who is going to take BTR before that pick?
Phi - No
Min - Unlikely
Dal - Doubtful
Green Bay - Maybe? But I'm thinking defense here.
Tampa Bay - Intriguing, but WR room is pretty crowded.
Ari - Just took MHJ... would they really go back to back?
And that leaves us at Buffalo.
Ari needs a couple WRs... that would be a draft... BTj and MHj
The fact that it is almost 11pm and they still have almost 1/3 of the first round to go is a problem to me. I think they have dragged out the draft way too much.
Eagles have like a hundred people in their war room.
The fact that it is almost 11pm and they still have almost 1/3 of the first round to go is a problem to me. I think they have dragged out the draft way too much.
Could fall all the way to Buffalo at 28. That's incredible and would be a coup for them. Who is going to take BTR before that pick?
Phi - No
Min - Unlikely
Dal - Doubtful
Green Bay - Maybe? But I'm thinking defense here.
Tampa Bay - Intriguing, but WR room is pretty crowded.
Ari - Just took MHJ... would they really go back to back?
And that leaves us at Buffalo.
You forgot MIN traded and it was JAX who goes... Brian Thomas Jr... nice pick
The overall physical package and what he can bring to the table is elite, top shelf tool set. But he played at Toledo. Toledo didn't play ANYBODY. He had a very slightly higher QB rating against to Terrion Arnold, who did what he did in the SEC.
The overall physical package and what he can bring to the table is elite, top shelf tool set. But he played at Toledo. Toledo didn't play ANYBODY. He had a very slightly higher QB rating against to Terrion Arnold, who did what he did in the SEC.
Nabers will eat him alive.
People said the same thing about Sauce. He was barely targeted this year and was by far the best CB at Senior Bowl.
Could fall all the way to Buffalo at 28. That's incredible and would be a coup for them. Who is going to take BTR before that pick?
Phi - No
Min - Unlikely
Dal - Doubtful
Green Bay - Maybe? But I'm thinking defense here.
Tampa Bay - Intriguing, but WR room is pretty crowded.
Ari - Just took MHJ... would they really go back to back?
And that leaves us at Buffalo.
You forgot MIN traded and it was JAX who goes... Brian Thomas Jr... nice pick
Thanks! That's a helluva pick for Jax, tremendous value, and a much needed big time target for Lawrence.
The overall physical package and what he can bring to the table is elite, top shelf tool set. But he played at Toledo. Toledo didn't play ANYBODY. He had a very slightly higher QB rating against to Terrion Arnold, who did what he did in the SEC.
Nabers will eat him alive.
Nabers is going to eat everyone alive... He is Tyreek-ish
So far. Love the move up to get Turner.
Excellent value. I think he may be with ajr...??
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The giants have access to JJM/Penix/Nix level qb prospect next year than a Nabers level non-qb premium position prospect next year, so I personally think they made the right call. Maybe I’m overvaluing consensus opinion but teams weren’t trying to trade up ahead of us for Penix or JJM, so I don’t think Schoen was on an island in his assessment.
I wanted a Maye trade to happen but if the top 3 teams don’t want to move your hands are tied. So it’s elite blue chip wr, a 32 AAV position vs 2nd tier qb prospect. That’s the decision.
I hope you're right but I fear you will be wrong. JJM was rated 84 by SY as an example (It;s not like SY was the only 1 who had JJM rated very high.).. QB's are exponentially more improtant than a WR.
Think about it-- SY's ceiling for JJM was Joe Burrow. Nabors celing can never be Burrow.
Nabers ceiling is Rice - no diff
Thanks for teh comedy.
Seeign how you are makign things up- I can also live in the same fanasy world you live in and say JJM's ceiling is Mahomes/Brady.
You see how easy it is for me to make things up like you did?
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And then there's the Giants..
Who got arguably the best player in the Draft
+1
+2
It happens every year. You could see this coming all night.
Watch them draft Brian Thomas hahaha
Unbelievable.. Hate that team.
Told ya so! :)
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I hope you're right but I fear you will be wrong. JJM was rated 84 by SY as an example (It;s not like SY was the only 1 who had JJM rated very high.).. QB's are exponentially more improtant than a WR.
Think about it-- SY's ceiling for JJM was Joe Burrow. Nabors celing can never be Burrow.
I 100% respect Sy’s opinion, I’m sure a lot of skilled evaluators had him stacked similar but the Giants clearly didn’t, they would have picked him at 6 given their trade efforts for Maye. Their actions dictate a tier break after Maye. They could be wrong and they might be, but it doesn’t look like the Vikings were that convicted either because they didn’t act with a ton of urgency themselves. They waited until 1 pick in front to move on him when it was widely reported they were in on Maye and negotiating with NE as well. So you can safely assume it was a similar eval situation. It’s unlikely the Giants will have access to a similar prospect to Maye either, but I don’t think it's crazy to see them having access to a 2nd tier quy.
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Will get Arnold or Mitchell if they stay at their pick.
Unbelievable.. Hate that team.
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The giants have access to JJM/Penix/Nix level qb prospect next year than a Nabers level non-qb premium position prospect next year, so I personally think they made the right call. Maybe I’m overvaluing consensus opinion but teams weren’t trying to trade up ahead of us for Penix or JJM, so I don’t think Schoen was on an island in his assessment.
I wanted a Maye trade to happen but if the top 3 teams don’t want to move your hands are tied. So it’s elite blue chip wr, a 32 AAV position vs 2nd tier qb prospect. That’s the decision.
I hope you're right but I fear you will be wrong. JJM was rated 84 by SY as an example (It;s not like SY was the only 1 who had JJM rated very high.).. QB's are exponentially more improtant than a WR.
Think about it-- SY's ceiling for JJM was Joe Burrow. Nabors celing can never be Burrow.
JJ's comp is Rich Gannon according to Sy
Phi - No
Min - Unlikely
Dal - Doubtful
Green Bay - Maybe? But I'm thinking defense here.
Tampa Bay - Intriguing, but WR room is pretty crowded.
Ari - Just took MHJ... would they really go back to back?
And that leaves us at Buffalo.
Where are you getting the picks early?
… and I just turned the tv off
Phi - No
Min - Unlikely
Dal - Doubtful
Green Bay - Maybe? But I'm thinking defense here.
Tampa Bay - Intriguing, but WR room is pretty crowded.
Ari - Just took MHJ... would they really go back to back?
And that leaves us at Buffalo.
Ari needs a couple WRs... that would be a draft... BTj and MHj
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They got Mitchell
Where are you getting the picks early?
Our guy Pretty Rickey
https://twitter.com/prettyrickey213
Yea it’s ridiculous
They Lente such a distaste in my mouth ... it is visceral
Phi - No
Min - Unlikely
Dal - Doubtful
Green Bay - Maybe? But I'm thinking defense here.
Tampa Bay - Intriguing, but WR room is pretty crowded.
Ari - Just took MHJ... would they really go back to back?
And that leaves us at Buffalo.
You forgot MIN traded and it was JAX who goes... Brian Thomas Jr... nice pick
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They got Mitchell
Where are you getting the picks early?
Our guy Pretty Rickey
https://twitter.com/prettyrickey213
Thanks.
The overall physical package and what he can bring to the table is elite, top shelf tool set. But he played at Toledo. Toledo didn't play ANYBODY. He had a very slightly higher QB rating against to Terrion Arnold, who did what he did in the SEC.
Nabers will eat him alive.
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They got Mitchell
The overall physical package and what he can bring to the table is elite, top shelf tool set. But he played at Toledo. Toledo didn't play ANYBODY. He had a very slightly higher QB rating against to Terrion Arnold, who did what he did in the SEC.
Nabers will eat him alive.
People said the same thing about Sauce. He was barely targeted this year and was by far the best CB at Senior Bowl.
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Could fall all the way to Buffalo at 28. That's incredible and would be a coup for them. Who is going to take BTR before that pick?
Phi - No
Min - Unlikely
Dal - Doubtful
Green Bay - Maybe? But I'm thinking defense here.
Tampa Bay - Intriguing, but WR room is pretty crowded.
Ari - Just took MHJ... would they really go back to back?
And that leaves us at Buffalo.
You forgot MIN traded and it was JAX who goes... Brian Thomas Jr... nice pick
Thanks! That's a helluva pick for Jax, tremendous value, and a much needed big time target for Lawrence.
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They got Mitchell
The overall physical package and what he can bring to the table is elite, top shelf tool set. But he played at Toledo. Toledo didn't play ANYBODY. He had a very slightly higher QB rating against to Terrion Arnold, who did what he did in the SEC.
Nabers will eat him alive.
Nabers is going to eat everyone alive... He is Tyreek-ish
I don't wanna see that replay, lol. When is Roseman gonna fire him?