2. MALIK NABERS, Louisiana State (6-0, 199, 4.44, 1): Third-year junior. “He’s that all-around, well-polished, freakishly athletic individual,” said one scout. “His traits just jump off the tape at you.” His pro day workout included a 42-inch vertical jump and 10-9 broad jump. “I absolutely love watching Malik Nabers,” a second scout said. “He’s not your typical size for an ‘X’ but he has the speed, the separation, routes and hands. Where he separates himself is run after catch. That’s what makes him such an exciting player. CeeDee Lamb is a little bit bigger; Nabers is more sudden and (has) better top-end speed.” A third scout graded him on a par with Justin Jefferson, another LSU product. “He’s powerful, he’s explosive and he can win at every level of route running, which makes him special as a high-floor player,” a fourth scout said. “He can run after the catch. He can run intermediate routes. He can track the deep ball.” Started 30 of 38 games. Finished with 189 catches for 3,003 (15.9) and 21 TDs. “He’s not Harrison,” a fifth scout said. “If you see that just ignore it. He’s more of the D.J. Moore kind of player. Thick running back build. He’s a good player, a really good player. I don’t think he has elite ball skills.” From Youngsville, La. “He is what he is right now,” said a sixth scout. “He’s topped out. Against the Alabama corners his production all came against zone coverage over the middle. When he was manned up he struggled. But he has straight dog in him once he catches the ball.”
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Marvin Harrison, Rome Odunze … and Malik Nabers above them both
“(Harrison’s) not No. 1 to me,” said a veteran NFL receivers coach, whose team is in the market for another top receiver, and whom we’ll ID as WR Coach 1. “(LSU’s Malik) Nabers is the No. 1 on my list and I think he is on a lot of people’s lists. He’s just different to me. I don’t think it’s anything toward Marvin, it’s just really that Nabers is that good. His skills with the ball in his hands are really different. His acceleration is just different. His explosive is different. He tracks the ball really well. He’s a smaller guy but he can still play outside. He’s rare in a lot of ways. He’s got some Ja’Marr Chase in him, some DJ Moore skills. I hesitate to say this because Tyreek Hill’s speed is just so different from anybody in the league, but Nabers has some of that kind of burst and just so explosive off the line of scrimmage.
“He’s as fast as the person chasing him. He’s gonna run away from whoever. If Deion was chasing him, he’d go 4.21 or whatever. He’s the best WR prospect since Chase and on tape, I think he’s even more impressive. This dude is different.”
Another long-time NFL assistant, who has coached receivers and been an NFL offensive coordinator, agreed that Nabers was the top receiver prospect.
“It’s Nabers and then there’s a gap,” said Offensive Assistant 1. “He is the best wide receiver in the draft in a couple of years, maybe more. He is Tyreek Hill combined with both of those San Francisco guys (Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk). He is so explosive. He has a second gear. He can stop on a dime. He breaks tackles. You can’t jam him because he’s just too quick and if you miss at all, he’s gonna outrun you. He’s really competitive but he can be a pain in the ass. He’ll be the guy who’ll have something to say to the coordinator coming off the field. He’s got that edge to him where he doesn’t know when to let up. He doesn’t know that those guys are on his side.”
Scout 1: “Nabers is so much more explosive. I think he has more upside. I don’t know if I trust him like I trust Marvin. I trust Marvin to be disciplined.”
WR Coach 2: “We have Nabers as No. 1. He’s got all the ability in the world. He’s got Receiver No. 1 written all over him. He does have some stuff he’s got to clean up. Route running, which will come naturally with the right coach and group of receivers. So much upside. He just brings a different presence. His physicality. You see that on tape. He’s got that dawg in him.”
Harrison, the 6-foot-3, 209-pound Biletnikoff Award winner, is bigger than the 6-feet, 199-pound Nabers, who finished second in the FBS with 1,569 receiving yards and third with 14 touchdowns. Harrison ranked No. 2 on the Freaks List in 2023 after putting up impressive numbers in the Buckeyes strength program. He’s bench pressed 380 pounds, broad-jumped 10 feet 8, clocked 3.94 in the shuttle and topped out at 23.5 mph, according to Ohio State sources. But Harrison didn’t do any of the testing in the draft process, which has added to some skepticism about his explosiveness.
“Marvin is great too,” said WR Coach 1. “You question just how fast he is. He can take the top off and he’s got elite ball skills and elite tracking. I don’t see 23 mph — that’s really, really fast. He’s to me more of a glider, build-up speed type of guy. Which you would expect, because he is huge.”
Offensive Assistant 1: “Marvin is really good. Polished. If you’re looking to pick on something, he’s not gonna run by people. They’re gonna squat on him at the top of the break. He’s good. I just wished he did the testing. He comes across as casual a little bit.”
Scout 1: “I think Marvin is pretty damn explosive. Physically, he’s like a 6-3 CeeDee Lamb. He just doesn’t have that innate dog that Malik has.”
WR Coach 2: “Harrison is like a fluid, smooth receiver. He doesn’t have the same elite traits like Nabers. He can separate and catches the ball real well. I don’t think he wows you.”
Odunze is as tall as Harrison and a little thicker at 212 pounds. He did all the testing in Indianapolis, clocking a 4.45 40 with a 1.52 10-yard split, vertical jumping 39 inches and going 4.03 in the 20-yard shuttle. Last season at Washington, Odunze led the nation in receiving yards with 1,640 to go with 82 catches and 13 touchdowns.
Scout 1: “Rome is the safest guy of the receivers. He’s just not as talented as Malik or Harrison as far as getting consistent separation at an NFL level. I trust him a little more than those guys. As far as strength through the catch, he might be the best. He’s built right to last and run routes.”
WR Coach 1: “He’s great at tracking the ball; he’s rugged and has good run after the catch ability. Can play inside and out, and he’s so smart — like different type of smart. He can pick things up so easily and will adapt easily to the pro game because of the system and the concepts they had there, and that really shows up in his game.”
Offensive Assistant 1: “I like the grit and his lower body is really strong. But he’s not running by people or closing cushion like Nabers does.”
WR Coach 2: “I think you have a top two with Malik and Marvin, and then I think there’s Rome, who I don’t think is in that same tier as those two. Rome has the make-up to be really good but in my opinion he doesn’t have the elite traits like the other two. I question his top-end (speed). He doesn’t have that juice like Nabers. He’s more of a possession-type receiver. He’s a more polished route runner, but I don’t think he’s to the level of Marvin.”
Pick number 9. Get more weapons for Daniel. 7 wins, pick numerous 8. Get more help for Daniel. Before you know it, it's 2030 and Mara is trying to make the case to put him in the ring of honor because he's top 5 all time in games played...
Nabers and MHJr were pound for pound the best players in the draft.
Clearly they were. I can guarantee that neither Schoen or Daboll wanted anything to do with McCarthy and obviously the Vikings may not have been either although at 11 they might be.
You take the BEST player available and that was Nabers at #6.
To believe I am so bummed drafting such an awesome player. He’s a legit stud. I just think are going to be in QB hell and I think JJM is going to be an above average QB. I think will be around 500 next . We need to figure out how to get a QB
Version of the Barkley pick. I like the player a lot, I liked Barkley a lot.
Given the amount of holes, specifically at QB, I thought QB or trade down for more assets was the move. I just don’t see how we’re going to get the ball to him.
Schoen and Daboll shopping QB hungry in THAT QB class is a terrifying thought. I’d actually rather both be fired in January after we blow ass next year than let them draft next April.
1. Some draft boards have Nabers the highest rated player in the draft
2. If it works out and the WRs can stay healthy, it could be one of the best WR crews the team had
3. I'm a fan of building the team and then bringing in a young QB putting them in the best position to succeed
there’s a number of ways, through trades, draft or FA. We'll probably be in a better position next year to get one. You can’t project QBs a year out. Let’s see what happens next year.
Will probably love him when he plays. Malik Nabers is a great pick, and I like him more than Harrison! The Giants just received the best WR in the draft!
Why? he cannot control what QB is on the board when we pick
Daboll never had a target on his back and still doesn't and he won't unless he commits murder or goes Joe Judge...
He absolutely does. A playoff miss and poor offense and it’s going to be boiling water time. You can choose to be ignorant of that reality. This franchise has had six losing seasons in seven.
there’s a number of ways, through trades, draft or FA. We'll probably be in a better position next year to get one. You can’t project QBs a year out. Let’s see what happens next year.
Will probably love him when he plays. Malik Nabers is a great pick, and I like him more than Harrison! The Giants just received the best WR in the draft!
I agree he is a talented kid, who will be good. However, who gets him the ball?
RE: Great pick, tremendous talent and fills a huge hole
Yeah he’s on a 1 year. Giants are going to have to go all in at qb next offseason. That’s the trade off. Dak is gonna hit FA and hopefully the QB class matures and they can trade the farm for one. Nabers isn’t anything to be upset about, a rare prospect at a premium position.
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Horrendous. The only guy in the projections that I didn’t want.
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No. Trade back.
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“(Harrison’s) not No. 1 to me,” said a veteran NFL receivers coach, whose team is in the market for another top receiver, and whom we’ll ID as WR Coach 1. “(LSU’s Malik) Nabers is the No. 1 on my list and I think he is on a lot of people’s lists. He’s just different to me. I don’t think it’s anything toward Marvin, it’s just really that Nabers is that good. His skills with the ball in his hands are really different. His acceleration is just different. His explosive is different. He tracks the ball really well. He’s a smaller guy but he can still play outside. He’s rare in a lot of ways. He’s got some Ja’Marr Chase in him, some DJ Moore skills. I hesitate to say this because Tyreek Hill’s speed is just so different from anybody in the league, but Nabers has some of that kind of burst and just so explosive off the line of scrimmage.
“He’s as fast as the person chasing him. He’s gonna run away from whoever. If Deion was chasing him, he’d go 4.21 or whatever. He’s the best WR prospect since Chase and on tape, I think he’s even more impressive. This dude is different.”
Another long-time NFL assistant, who has coached receivers and been an NFL offensive coordinator, agreed that Nabers was the top receiver prospect.
“It’s Nabers and then there’s a gap,” said Offensive Assistant 1. “He is the best wide receiver in the draft in a couple of years, maybe more. He is Tyreek Hill combined with both of those San Francisco guys (Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk). He is so explosive. He has a second gear. He can stop on a dime. He breaks tackles. You can’t jam him because he’s just too quick and if you miss at all, he’s gonna outrun you. He’s really competitive but he can be a pain in the ass. He’ll be the guy who’ll have something to say to the coordinator coming off the field. He’s got that edge to him where he doesn’t know when to let up. He doesn’t know that those guys are on his side.”
Scout 1: “Nabers is so much more explosive. I think he has more upside. I don’t know if I trust him like I trust Marvin. I trust Marvin to be disciplined.”
WR Coach 2: “We have Nabers as No. 1. He’s got all the ability in the world. He’s got Receiver No. 1 written all over him. He does have some stuff he’s got to clean up. Route running, which will come naturally with the right coach and group of receivers. So much upside. He just brings a different presence. His physicality. You see that on tape. He’s got that dawg in him.”
Harrison, the 6-foot-3, 209-pound Biletnikoff Award winner, is bigger than the 6-feet, 199-pound Nabers, who finished second in the FBS with 1,569 receiving yards and third with 14 touchdowns. Harrison ranked No. 2 on the Freaks List in 2023 after putting up impressive numbers in the Buckeyes strength program. He’s bench pressed 380 pounds, broad-jumped 10 feet 8, clocked 3.94 in the shuttle and topped out at 23.5 mph, according to Ohio State sources. But Harrison didn’t do any of the testing in the draft process, which has added to some skepticism about his explosiveness.
“Marvin is great too,” said WR Coach 1. “You question just how fast he is. He can take the top off and he’s got elite ball skills and elite tracking. I don’t see 23 mph — that’s really, really fast. He’s to me more of a glider, build-up speed type of guy. Which you would expect, because he is huge.”
Offensive Assistant 1: “Marvin is really good. Polished. If you’re looking to pick on something, he’s not gonna run by people. They’re gonna squat on him at the top of the break. He’s good. I just wished he did the testing. He comes across as casual a little bit.”
Scout 1: “I think Marvin is pretty damn explosive. Physically, he’s like a 6-3 CeeDee Lamb. He just doesn’t have that innate dog that Malik has.”
WR Coach 2: “Harrison is like a fluid, smooth receiver. He doesn’t have the same elite traits like Nabers. He can separate and catches the ball real well. I don’t think he wows you.”
Odunze is as tall as Harrison and a little thicker at 212 pounds. He did all the testing in Indianapolis, clocking a 4.45 40 with a 1.52 10-yard split, vertical jumping 39 inches and going 4.03 in the 20-yard shuttle. Last season at Washington, Odunze led the nation in receiving yards with 1,640 to go with 82 catches and 13 touchdowns.
Scout 1: “Rome is the safest guy of the receivers. He’s just not as talented as Malik or Harrison as far as getting consistent separation at an NFL level. I trust him a little more than those guys. As far as strength through the catch, he might be the best. He’s built right to last and run routes.”
WR Coach 1: “He’s great at tracking the ball; he’s rugged and has good run after the catch ability. Can play inside and out, and he’s so smart — like different type of smart. He can pick things up so easily and will adapt easily to the pro game because of the system and the concepts they had there, and that really shows up in his game.”
Offensive Assistant 1: “I like the grit and his lower body is really strong. But he’s not running by people or closing cushion like Nabers does.”
WR Coach 2: “I think you have a top two with Malik and Marvin, and then I think there’s Rome, who I don’t think is in that same tier as those two. Rome has the make-up to be really good but in my opinion he doesn’t have the elite traits like the other two. I question his top-end (speed). He doesn’t have that juice like Nabers. He’s more of a possession-type receiver. He’s a more polished route runner, but I don’t think he’s to the level of Marvin.”
Now do we see a move for Bo Nix or Penix?
Poor man’s Kirk Cousins. They can have him.
Great pick, boys!
Why? he cannot control what QB is on the board when we pick
Clearly they were. I can guarantee that neither Schoen or Daboll wanted anything to do with McCarthy and obviously the Vikings may not have been either although at 11 they might be.
You take the BEST player available and that was Nabers at #6.
He’s my #1 WR in the draft. Im happy with the pick, he’s the player I was hoping for. This fanbase is going to have a tough time with him though..
He stood pat and picked a guy everyone mocked to them. This wasn’t some kind of coup.
Yes we do! Great player. Got a good one and kept our draft in tact!
Not gonna lie, was hoping for Maye or JJM. Nabers was 3rd on my wish list.
Given the amount of holes, specifically at QB, I thought QB or trade down for more assets was the move. I just don’t see how we’re going to get the ball to him.
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But Daboll has a big red target on his back now.
Why? he cannot control what QB is on the board when we pick
He needs a QB to run his offense you dope.
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pick. Phenomenal player.
Knew you would like it.
Nabers is a VERY exciting player. Now let’s get Penix.
Very happy with Nabers.
The Falcons just took Penix.
Go cheer for the falcons
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and he really wanted to come here... fuck yeah, what a talent we just got.
We need a quarterback. A WR is not a primary ball handler.
Nah. Don't agree. Jones gets another deserved chance.
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But Daboll has a big red target on his back now.
Why? he cannot control what QB is on the board when we pick
Daboll never had a target on his back and still doesn't and he won't unless he commits murder or goes Joe Judge...
2. If it works out and the WRs can stay healthy, it could be one of the best WR crews the team had
3. I'm a fan of building the team and then bringing in a young QB putting them in the best position to succeed
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People wanted JJM that bad? He’s another DJ, he’s a 3rd round talent at best.
No. Trade back.
Ok trade back to where? Take another CB who’s average? We need a fucking WR. Enough.
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But Daboll has a big red target on his back now.
Why? he cannot control what QB is on the board when we pick
Daboll never had a target on his back and still doesn't and he won't unless he commits murder or goes Joe Judge...
He absolutely does. A playoff miss and poor offense and it’s going to be boiling water time. You can choose to be ignorant of that reality. This franchise has had six losing seasons in seven.
Or give Daniel three or four more years to show us how good he is.
Drew lock has not been a very good qb so far
So happy we passed on him.
I liked him but Nabers is a stud WR.
One day we'll be able to raise the standards here. I hope.
Yes you can absolutely project QB’s a year out.
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You can take a QB with one on the roster
Go cheer for the falcons
Why would I do that?
I agree he is a talented kid, who will be good. However, who gets him the ball?
Yeah he’s on a 1 year. Giants are going to have to go all in at qb next offseason. That’s the trade off. Dak is gonna hit FA and hopefully the QB class matures and they can trade the farm for one. Nabers isn’t anything to be upset about, a rare prospect at a premium position.
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One day we'll be able to raise the standards here. I hope.
People will be calling for DeVito again. Just prepare yourself. There’s a segment here that accepts 5-7 wins as “positive”.
Maybe great and a little saner
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One day we'll be able to raise the standards here. I hope.
Fucking pathetic.
So, so depressing.
So in that respect, not making Daniel uncomfortable with his job was a huge win.