So go win now. Go score 27 PPG and win 11 games with your new weapon.
That's fair, right? We have a #1 WR, a #1 left tackle, and a #1 QB.
Go win. Go fucking win.
Yep - the standard is competing for the division title and the top teams in the NFC right now. All the moves the last 2 years have been win now. There is no growth path. We are in theory in the success window.
who is going to throw to Nabors? Giants won one playoff game with Barkley and none with Beckham. This front office thinks Jones is the answer... still? Just so typical of the Mara led Giants.
If it's an average year there are maybe 2 QBs at the top. Say we're at pick 9. Lots of teams need QBs. We're desperate and trading 3 FRPs to get in there if anyone is willing to deal?
Yeah probably. Or you entice the Cousins of next year, who will probably be Dak, to play for your team. Or you go in on a 2nd tier qb prospect with a short leash. You could easily argue that’s the level JJM and Penix are too.
did their due diligence on every freakin QB in the draft. If they think Maye, JJM, Penix, etc are a cut below and not worth a top pick or trade up, so be it. You take the stud and live with the consequences. Their jobs will depend on it.
[quote]Nabers is an electric playmaker and arguably this class’ most dangerous ball carrier in space. An incredibly smooth and explosive athlete with great ball skills, Nabers was an instant contributor in the SEC for LSU and made 161 catches (playing with Jayden Daniels) the last two seasons. There were some scouts who had Nabers ranked ahead of Harrison — he’s that good.
The Giants have questions about Daniel Jones, to be sure. But they still have so much work to do that bringing a first-round QB in to compete for the job wouldn’t have made much sense. Nabers is an awesome talent and will instantly make one of the slowest offenses faster. This is a sensible, efficient and potentially explosive draft pick.
You also don’t draft a QB because you are desperate. People here were blinded by their dislike of DJ. Convinced themselves that any QB was better. The owner did not feel that way. We can release Jones after 2024.
On this dismal night, when likely no one is happy, I'll bore you with why I believe in defense and not so much on "skill" players.
My personal fun draft fact. In 1986 the Giants had four 2nd round picks plus their 1st and 3rd and all six picks were defense. They picked up Mark Collins, Erik Howard and Pepper Johnson.
Then Young went offense in the first round for the next nine years.
1987
Ingram WE
Moore OT(Jumbo Elliott in 2nd round)
Williams C
Hampton RB
Bunch FB (ouch)
Brown, Derek TE
Brown, Dave QB* Supplemental Draft, 1st Round
Lewis WR
Wheatley RB
1995
George Young was killing me here. A team built around the defense and he picked only offense first
And SEVEN offensive skill positions
He clearly was not good picking these players.
But he broke the streak with Cedric Jones in 1996. 🤣
Said the same thing in an earlier post SB. Nabers is a player but, I am concerned with his maturity level and ego being a potential problem. We will see though.
I wish him well and much success. I hope he proves me dead wrong.
You qb or bust guys should try crying harder. Nabers is an absolute beast and at least half of these qbs who were just drafted are gonna be in the xfl before too long.
I think if Alt had been on the board, Giants would have taken him
if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
Please stop. Arch Manning cannot even make starting QB in college. Was beat in the spring game.
c'mon dude .... I know it is hard to communicate humor and
satire and sarcasm with just text but, the whole post was tongue in cheek. Even if he ends up being a great college QB - the chances of the Giants getting him are probably near zero. Things just don't work out that way.
Said the same thing in an earlier post SB. Nabers is a player but, I am concerned with his maturity level and ego being a potential problem. We will see though.
I wish him well and much success. I hope he proves me dead wrong.
I think Dr Lani is pretty important. I hope she can help keep this kid's head on right. No boat trips.
Said the same thing in an earlier post SB. Nabers is a player but, I am concerned with his maturity level and ego being a potential problem. We will see though.
I wish him well and much success. I hope he proves me dead wrong.
I think Dr Lani is pretty important. I hope she can help keep this kid's head on right. No boat trips.
if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
Please stop. Arch Manning cannot even make starting QB in college. Was beat in the spring game.
c'mon dude .... I know it is hard to communicate humor and
satire and sarcasm with just text but, the whole post was tongue in cheek. Even if he ends up being a great college QB - the chances of the Giants getting him are probably near zero. Things just don't work out that way.
I don't care. Not funny.
RE: RE: How anyone doesn’t like this pick is crazy
Clearly the Giants didn’t like McCarthy. Some people had Nabers #1 overall.
McCarthy was the 5th QB taken and not many thought Penix was even a thought.
Don’t reach for players, this was a great pick.
The Pats probably wanted way more than the Giants were willing to pay.
Think of the speed & quickness we have at WR now, it’s crazy.
How do they get the ball? I’ve asked this at least 3 times on this thread and have not received a response.
Improved OL, Better WRs by getting a #1 and moving everyone down one slot where they belong. People talk like DJ can’t throw, he can if he has time and not laying on his back within 2 seconds. He is not a top 5 QB and if he’s as bad as you think the Giants will have the opportunity to take a QB next year and get rid of his contract.
Obviously the Giants feel that DJ and Nabers was better than picking the 4th QB. The team is better than it was and hour ago. When you get a chance to take an elite talent you take him. If you can’t be happy about getting a top talent I’m sorry for you. It’s not like they drafted Thomas Lewis.
That's fair, right? We have a #1 WR, a #1 left tackle, and a #1 QB.
Go win. Go fucking win.
Yep - the standard is competing for the division title and the top teams in the NFC right now. All the moves the last 2 years have been win now. There is no growth path. We are in theory in the success window.
Yeah probably. Or you entice the Cousins of next year, who will probably be Dak, to play for your team. Or you go in on a 2nd tier qb prospect with a short leash. You could easily argue that’s the level JJM and Penix are too.
A reluctance to surrender draft capital for a Talent-deficient Giants team.
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So go win now. Go score 27 PPG and win 11 games with your new weapon.
That's fair, right? We have a #1 WR, a #1 left tackle, and a #1 QB.
Go win. Go fucking win.
4-13
4-13 and Nabers gets called a bust
5-12
The Giants have zero.
Yet somehow the Falcons are the stupid ones according to some.
Actually it's the OL... any QB will look bad passing from his back. Not saying DJ is Pro bowl but give him a competent OL for an accurate assessment
So what’s the alternative? Pick a qb who they don’t like?
With the #6 pick.
That's a pretty neat trick.
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But he can’t pass to himself
So what’s the alternative? Pick a qb who they don’t like?
KOC and Payton found QBs they like. They don't know about quarterbacks?
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Woohoo!!!
The DeVito run has nothing to do with it.
Penix and McCarthy just went 2 and 4 picks after us. We should have taken either.
Why? Take a qb just to take one? Stupid
if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
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But he can’t pass to himself
So what’s the alternative? Pick a qb who they don’t like?
KOC and Payton found QBs they like. They don't know about quarterbacks?
We will see if they did. Giants made the pick that made the most sense instead of reaching
McCarthy was the 5th QB taken and not many thought Penix was even a thought.
Don’t reach for players, this was a great pick.
The Pats probably wanted way more than the Giants were willing to pay.
Think of the speed & quickness we have at WR now, it’s crazy.
How do they get the ball? I’ve asked this at least 3 times on this thread and have not received a response.
The Giants have questions about Daniel Jones, to be sure. But they still have so much work to do that bringing a first-round QB in to compete for the job wouldn’t have made much sense. Nabers is an awesome talent and will instantly make one of the slowest offenses faster. This is a sensible, efficient and potentially explosive draft pick.
Grade: A
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The Athletic - ( New Window )
They made their own bed.
if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
Please stop. Arch Manning cannot even make starting QB in college. Was beat in the spring game.
Anyway ball-breaking aside, I wouldn't be surprised for them to somehow select Bo Nix.
That is awesome!
My personal fun draft fact. In 1986 the Giants had four 2nd round picks plus their 1st and 3rd and all six picks were defense. They picked up Mark Collins, Erik Howard and Pepper Johnson.
Then Young went offense in the first round for the next nine years.
1987
Ingram WE
Moore OT(Jumbo Elliott in 2nd round)
Williams C
Hampton RB
Bunch FB (ouch)
Brown, Derek TE
Brown, Dave QB* Supplemental Draft, 1st Round
Lewis WR
Wheatley RB
1995
George Young was killing me here. A team built around the defense and he picked only offense first
And SEVEN offensive skill positions
He clearly was not good picking these players.
But he broke the streak with Cedric Jones in 1996. 🤣
+1
Said the same thing in an earlier post SB. Nabers is a player but, I am concerned with his maturity level and ego being a potential problem. We will see though.
I wish him well and much success. I hope he proves me dead wrong.
Well, we look forward to that Greg RN
No. Absolutely no.
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if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
Please stop. Arch Manning cannot even make starting QB in college. Was beat in the spring game.
He tore it up from reports. So what are you talking about?
https://247sports.com/article/arch-manning-backs-up-hype-as-no-1-overall-recruit-with-dynamic-performance-in-texas-spring-game-230867780/ - ( New Window )
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if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
Please stop. Arch Manning cannot even make starting QB in college. Was beat in the spring game.
c'mon dude .... I know it is hard to communicate humor and
satire and sarcasm with just text but, the whole post was tongue in cheek. Even if he ends up being a great college QB - the chances of the Giants getting him are probably near zero. Things just don't work out that way.
Geez. Guy has never done anything worth talking about.
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+1
Said the same thing in an earlier post SB. Nabers is a player but, I am concerned with his maturity level and ego being a potential problem. We will see though.
I wish him well and much success. I hope he proves me dead wrong.
I think Dr Lani is pretty important. I hope she can help keep this kid's head on right. No boat trips.
They made their own bed.
And what would you suggest they do?
Draft a QB they don’t have conviction on?
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+1
Said the same thing in an earlier post SB. Nabers is a player but, I am concerned with his maturity level and ego being a potential problem. We will see though.
I wish him well and much success. I hope he proves me dead wrong.
I think Dr Lani is pretty important. I hope she can help keep this kid's head on right. No boat trips.
+1
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In comment 16488719 short lease said:
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if we still need a QB in a year or 2 ... the Giants trade up and draft ARCH MANNING!!!!
MANNING 2.0 baby!!!!
WOOOHOO
(lol)
Please stop. Arch Manning cannot even make starting QB in college. Was beat in the spring game.
c'mon dude .... I know it is hard to communicate humor and
satire and sarcasm with just text but, the whole post was tongue in cheek. Even if he ends up being a great college QB - the chances of the Giants getting him are probably near zero. Things just don't work out that way.
I don't care. Not funny.
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Clearly the Giants didn’t like McCarthy. Some people had Nabers #1 overall.
McCarthy was the 5th QB taken and not many thought Penix was even a thought.
Don’t reach for players, this was a great pick.
The Pats probably wanted way more than the Giants were willing to pay.
Think of the speed & quickness we have at WR now, it’s crazy.
How do they get the ball? I’ve asked this at least 3 times on this thread and have not received a response.
Improved OL, Better WRs by getting a #1 and moving everyone down one slot where they belong. People talk like DJ can’t throw, he can if he has time and not laying on his back within 2 seconds. He is not a top 5 QB and if he’s as bad as you think the Giants will have the opportunity to take a QB next year and get rid of his contract.
Obviously the Giants feel that DJ and Nabers was better than picking the 4th QB. The team is better than it was and hour ago. When you get a chance to take an elite talent you take him. If you can’t be happy about getting a top talent I’m sorry for you. It’s not like they drafted Thomas Lewis.
Trading up to 3 was not an option.