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On a positive note, I love our WR room now

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2024 10:04 pm
Yes, I get it, who will throw them the football... save it for another thread.

But Nabers, Hyatt, Robinson, Slayton, McKenzie... that's a ton of speed, quickness, and explosive big-play ability. Combine that with an upgraded offensive line and I'm looking forward to this.

Let the best QB win the job.
Nabers  
IchabodGiant : 4/25/2024 10:04 pm : link
Is going to be electric, for sure.
Agree  
ZogZerg : 4/25/2024 10:05 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/25/2024 10:05 pm : link
Little food. Been drinking.

But Lock to Nabers.

Please.
Multi-year process  
RHPeel : 4/25/2024 10:05 pm : link
This looks like a very good landing spot for the next guy next year.
Big year for Hyatt  
Sammo85 : 4/25/2024 10:05 pm : link
He needs to take next step. Nabers being here I think helps, not hurts that.
Eric - that's my take as well.  
Matt M. : 4/25/2024 10:06 pm : link
This is an exciting group of WRs.
RE: Big year for Hyatt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2024 10:06 pm : link
In comment 16489050 Sammo85 said:
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He needs to take next step. Nabers being here I think helps, not hurts that.


Hyatt was open all of the time last year. The OL couldn't give the QBs time.
RE: RE: Big year for Hyatt  
Sammo85 : 4/25/2024 10:07 pm : link
In comment 16489060 Eric from BBI said:
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He needs to take next step. Nabers being here I think helps, not hurts that.



Hyatt was open all of the time last year. The OL couldn't give the QBs time.


Was not just that Eric. He ran a very small portion of the route tree in playbook.
RE: RE: RE: Big year for Hyatt  
Eric on Li : 4/25/2024 10:09 pm : link
In comment 16489071 Sammo85 said:
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He needs to take next step. Nabers being here I think helps, not hurts that.



Hyatt was open all of the time last year. The OL couldn't give the QBs time.



Was not just that Eric. He ran a very small portion of the route tree in playbook.


who cares what portion he ran if he was open? he had at least 8 tds left on the field because he was under thrown.
It'll be exciting, that is for sure Eric  
Roto_Wizard : 4/25/2024 10:09 pm : link
And no one can complain about our speed anymore, between Nabers, Robinson and Hyatt. Might have one of the fastest trios there in the NFC.
I don't know  
darren in pdx : 4/25/2024 10:09 pm : link
what to think of Hyatt but I think it's because of the QBs and OL failed him. Still can't get over the lack of someone to get any of them the ball and the huge question mark of if Bricillo can fix the o-line, it's a sobering thought.
Hyatt has alot to prove this year (at least IMO).  
Dave in Hoboken : 4/25/2024 10:09 pm : link
Good luck to these guys trying to make a name for themselves with one of the worst QB and OL rooms in the entire league.
Speed  
Breeze_94 : 4/25/2024 10:09 pm : link
Speed speed.

Wan’Dale is the slow guy in the room…
I hope we draft Sinnot or Johnson for TE  
kelly : 4/25/2024 10:10 pm : link
I mean we need to draft to make our offense score points.

Lack of scoring has been our biggest issue.

Defense needs work but an offense that can score points will help the defense.
bat signal @ christian  
Eric on Li : 4/25/2024 10:10 pm : link
getting back to back to back leading WRs from the SEC is excitement worthy. now lets get them the ball.
Robinson > Hyatt > Nabers? christian 4/8/2024 10:10 pm - ( New Window )
Best WR room  
Amc825 : 4/25/2024 10:11 pm : link
Since we had Cruz, OBJ, and Shep. Cruz was on his last legs.
Nabers  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2024 10:11 pm : link
would have been the #1 non-QB taken in a normal draft.
Nabers, Slaytton Hyatt will certainly scare defenses with their speed  
Walker Gillette : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
and give Robinson plenty of room to operate underneath.If Nabers comes as advertised he will also give Hyatt more tome to develop and bump Slayton down a peg where he is better suited.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Big year for Hyatt  
Sammo85 : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16489081 Eric on Li said:
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He needs to take next step. Nabers being here I think helps, not hurts that.



Hyatt was open all of the time last year. The OL couldn't give the QBs time.



Was not just that Eric. He ran a very small portion of the route tree in playbook.



who cares what portion he ran if he was open? he had at least 8 tds left on the field because he was under thrown.


He needs to develop more than just as a take the top off on one or two route trees. It’s one of reasons he didn’t see field more and Daboll hinted as such (they knew it and why he was in third round).
RE: Nabers  
Eric on Li : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
In comment 16489109 Eric from BBI said:
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would have been the #1 non-QB taken in a normal draft.


he almost was in this one, it seems like it was only about 60/40 between MHJ/Nabers. though obviously ARI was in the 60.
Drew Lock  
5BowlsSoon : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
I’d feel better about him if I knew he could throw the short passes accurately. I wonder if he could some how learn to do that. Here’s hoping. I’d much rather see him throw the long ball instead of Danny.
Couldn’t agree more Eric  
Four Aces : 4/25/2024 10:12 pm : link
Finally some WRs that scare opposing defenses
RE: RE: RE: Big year for Hyatt  
section125 : 4/25/2024 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16489071 Sammo85 said:
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He needs to take next step. Nabers being here I think helps, not hurts that.



Hyatt was open all of the time last year. The OL couldn't give the QBs time.



Was not just that Eric. He ran a very small portion of the route tree in playbook.


It didn't matter what he ran, he was open a lot. Tyrod underthrew him several times last year.

Nabers, Slayton, Robinson and Hyatt is a lot of speed, maybe Miami Dolphins range.

It is true that someone has to throw it. Hoping it is Lock. Hoping that Bricillo is able to fix the line may be more important than who will throw the ball. Hell, give DeVito time and he will throw it.
RE: Nabers  
Sammo85 : 4/25/2024 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16489109 Eric from BBI said:
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would have been the #1 non-QB taken in a normal draft.


Don’t agree. Harrison.
RE: RE: Big year for Hyatt  
BillT : 4/25/2024 10:13 pm : link
In comment 16489060 Eric from BBI said:
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He needs to take next step. Nabers being here I think helps, not hurts that.



Hyatt was open all of the time last year. The OL couldn't give the QBs time.

No more excuses for the OL. Get it done.
This team was in such a bad spot  
Big Rick in FL : 4/25/2024 10:13 pm : link
From Gettleman that this was always going to be a multi year rebuild. Unfortunately they won a lot more games in 2022 than anybody thought they would so the rebuild got delayed.

They are finally building the right way and getting great players/prospects at premium positions.
…..  
Micko : 4/25/2024 10:14 pm : link
DJ is not a perfect QB - but when he has had time (very rarely) he has been fine. Revamped o-line and WR room? Let’s see what happens.
Love our WR room now  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 4/25/2024 10:14 pm : link

Stay healthy.

Need out O-line to just be average.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Big year for Hyatt  
Sammo85 : 4/25/2024 10:14 pm : link
In comment 16489131 section125 said:
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He needs to take next step. Nabers being here I think helps, not hurts that.



Hyatt was open all of the time last year. The OL couldn't give the QBs time.



Was not just that Eric. He ran a very small portion of the route tree in playbook.



It didn't matter what he ran, he was open a lot. Tyrod underthrew him several times last year.

Nabers, Slayton, Robinson and Hyatt is a lot of speed, maybe Miami Dolphins range.

It is true that someone has to throw it. Hoping it is Lock. Hoping that Bricillo is able to fix the line may be more important than who will throw the ball. Hell, give DeVito time and he will throw it.


Hyatt has extreme production potential. I loved the pick just to be clear.
I hate to keep going back....the OL must block  
George from PA : 4/25/2024 10:14 pm : link
Let this guys run routes....

The WR goes from below average to above average...with one player!

The trickle affect Make every guy bettee
I’m not upset we took Nabers  
Biteymax22 : 4/25/2024 10:14 pm : link
I think he’s a fantastic player. I’m upset that this likely means we’ve now triple downed on Daniel Jones.
I am excited to  
TrueBlue56 : 4/25/2024 10:16 pm : link
Watch these wide receivers. They have speed, can get separation and will stretch defenses.

Adding 1 wide receiver like Nabers changes the way defenses have to defend us and that will open up the running game.

The ability for a huge gain or touchdown on any down or play is exciting. Daboll will want those "shot" plays with this group.
The shift to having the Alfa WR  
Rjanyg : 4/25/2024 10:16 pm : link
From the Alfa RB is complete.

Nabers is the star Offensive weapon now.

It will be interesting to see if NYG adds a RB tomorrow or wait until Saturday?
How long before Nabers starts his eye-rolling and walking back slow  
ThomasG : 4/25/2024 10:17 pm : link
to the huddle because he isn’t getting the ball?

Over/under: Halloween Weekend
RE: bat signal @ christian  
christian : 4/25/2024 10:17 pm : link
In comment 16489098 Eric on Li said:
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getting back to back to back leading WRs from the SEC is excitement worthy. now lets get them the ball. Robinson > Hyatt > Nabers? christian 4/8/2024 10:10 pm - ( New Window )


You called my friend!
Giants are now in F1 mode ..  
Manny in CA : 4/25/2024 10:18 pm : link
RE: The shift to having the Alfa WR  
terptacular : 4/25/2024 10:18 pm : link
In comment 16489171 Rjanyg said:
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From the Alfa RB is complete.

Nabers is the star Offensive weapon now.

It will be interesting to see if NYG adds a RB tomorrow or wait until Saturday?


If they can have a consistent running game with the OL additions and RB changes, better pass pro, and this group of receivers, it will be interesting to see how DJ looks.

Those are luxuries Daniel Jones hasn't had as a Giant. I'm not saying he's the answer, but it would be interesting to see how he looks in those conditions.
As much as I wanted Maye...  
Jim in Tampa : 4/25/2024 10:19 pm : link
I'm not only glad that they didn't reach for a QB, I'm really looking forward to watching Malik Nabers play.

I loved watching OBJ dominate in his early years. Hopefully Nabers can have close to the same impact.
The  
Giantsbigblue : 4/25/2024 10:21 pm : link
YAC makes it so teams can't just go balls to the wall after the QB. Players like this can make a QB look good.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Big year for Hyatt  
Eric on Li : 4/25/2024 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16489119 Sammo85 said:
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He needs to develop more than just as a take the top off on one or two route trees. It’s one of reasons he didn’t see field more and Daboll hinted as such (they knew it and why he was in third round).


only 9 offensive players played more snaps than him last year. he started 7 games as their 3rd WR behind slayton who had his best year and robinson who really turned it on in the 2nd half. within about a month he had overtaken campbell who they paid $5m, hodgins, and the ghosts of beasley/shepard.



you can keep thumping his scouting reports from a year ago like it means anything, but he was the biggest big play threat on last years offense. his 3 catches over 40 yards were more than all but a dozen plays and he had at least twice that many left on the field.

he is a weapon even if he only runs go routes (and he did run more than that last year).
RE: Giants are now in F1 mode ..  
stoneman : 4/25/2024 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16489197 Manny in CA said:
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NASCAR package will be the Gs new base offense - no need for jumbo package
If Nabers is 75% of early OBJ  
AcesUp : 4/25/2024 10:22 pm : link
He’s a number 1 WR. If he’s closer to OBJ, hes QB proof. Wandale has proven to at least be a solid complimentary wr and you hope that Hyatt can improve a little then you have a legit wr core with a ton of explosive and yac potential. That’s valuable and something you can build on. They gotta hit on these early picks more and despite Nabers being the most boom/bust of the stud wrs, he does have a high floor. It’s not an easy group to build and the Giants have potential on rookie deals which provides a ton of cap flexibility if it hits.
RE: I’m not upset we took Nabers  
section125 : 4/25/2024 10:24 pm : link
In comment 16489154 Biteymax22 said:
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I think he’s a fantastic player. I’m upset that this likely means we’ve now triple downed on Daniel Jones.


That is a bad way to look at it. They are not tripling down on Jones. They are drafting better players and Jones just happens to be on the roster. They didn't go and tell Lock that he'd be competing for a starting job if they were handing Jones the keys. IMHO, DeVito would beat out Jones in a fair competition - or it would be close.
 
christian : 4/25/2024 10:25 pm : link
The Giants have an f'n 4 x 100 relay team at WR. Whether they have a quarterback who can get them the ball is the question.

If you're looking for a reason to be optimistic, look at the impact OBJ had on Manning 2013 to 2014. +600 yards and +12 TDs year over year.
RE: Nabers  
Matt M. : 4/25/2024 10:29 pm : link
In comment 16489109 Eric from BBI said:
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would have been the #1 non-QB taken in a normal draft.
I don't get this when Harrison was just as legitimate as the first non-QB taken.
RE: …  
section125 : 4/25/2024 10:29 pm : link
In comment 16489279 christian said:
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The Giants have an f'n 4 x 100 relay team at WR. Whether they have a quarterback who can get them the ball is the question.

If you're looking for a reason to be optimistic, look at the impact OBJ had on Manning 2013 to 2014. +600 yards and +12 TDs year over year.


As I said just above, even DeVito was able to get the ball to the WRs. If Bricillo can get the line to work, Lock should have time to get the ball out.
RE: RE: Nabers  
section125 : 4/25/2024 10:31 pm : link
In comment 16489324 Matt M. said:
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In comment 16489109 Eric from BBI said:


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would have been the #1 non-QB taken in a normal draft.

I don't get this when Harrison was just as legitimate as the first non-QB taken.


Yes MHJ was there. But just like QBs, you do not know which teams would have had Nabers higher. I think MHJ likely would go 1st to most teams, but...
RE: Eric - that's my take as well.  
Blue21 : 4/25/2024 10:41 pm : link
In comment 16489058 Matt M. said:
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This is an exciting group of WRs.
Yep it's what we have to go with. Now we need someone to compliment Singleton and a DT
Singletary  
Blue21 : 4/25/2024 10:41 pm : link
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RE: I’m not upset we took Nabers  
j_rud : 4/25/2024 10:46 pm : link
In comment 16489154 Biteymax22 said:
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I think he’s a fantastic player. I’m upset that this likely means we’ve now triple downed on Daniel Jones.


I don't see it that way at all. They tried to trade up. They actively tried to move on. We know this. Not being able to move on tonight does not mean they're just gonna see the contract through to the end.
RE: RE: Nabers  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/25/2024 11:14 pm : link
In comment 16489324 Matt M. said:
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would have been the #1 non-QB taken in a normal draft.

I don't get this when Harrison was just as legitimate as the first non-QB taken.


The reason this wasn't a normal draft was Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison. Take them out, and Nabers would have been the first non-QB.
It’s actually the perfect complement of receivers  
Breeze_94 : 4/26/2024 1:29 am : link
For what Daboll wants (separation)

Nabers is the alpha. Can win at every level. Dynamic.

Hyatt is the field stretcher. You cheat too much over to Nabers, and Hyatt is a big play waiting to happen.

Wan’Dale is the nuanced underneath guy who is a tough cover out of the slot, also awesome after the catch.

Slayton is the experienced guy, can do a bit of everything.

Very similar to the build of the Bills group under Daboll. Nabers in the Diggs role, Hyatt in the Davis role, Wan’Dale in Beasley’s, Slayton in Emmanuel Sanders…
RE: It’s actually the perfect complement of receivers  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2024 1:37 am : link
In comment 16489972 Breeze_94 said:
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For what Daboll wants (separation)

Nabers is the alpha. Can win at every level. Dynamic.

Hyatt is the field stretcher. You cheat too much over to Nabers, and Hyatt is a big play waiting to happen.

Wan’Dale is the nuanced underneath guy who is a tough cover out of the slot, also awesome after the catch.

Slayton is the experienced guy, can do a bit of everything.

Very similar to the build of the Bills group under Daboll. Nabers in the Diggs role, Hyatt in the Davis role, Wan’Dale in Beasley’s, Slayton in Emmanuel Sanders…


agreed. mackenzie and hodgins are nice depth off bench too. either one can make plays if forced to start. should be best overall WR room since cruz/nicks/manningham. obj was obviously a 1 man wrecking crew but he never really had much help. randle was a bum, cruz got hurt, marshall was cooked, shepard/engram were ok but both unreliable.

the Wr room and pass rushers should both be the best since that last SB run. not that there's much competition in the last decade+.
RE: Multi-year process  
BleedBlue46 : 4/26/2024 1:56 am : link
In comment 16489047 RHPeel said:
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This looks like a very good landing spot for the next guy next year.


And think about it Seattle, Dallas, new Orleans, lv, lar, Dallas, tb all will likely be picking behind us. We get another pick around 6-12 and we could get qb1.
RE: Love our WR room now  
Fifty Six : 4/26/2024 5:16 am : link
In comment 16489145 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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Stay healthy.

Need out O-line to just be average.


This. Can they just be average? Can we not be dead last? Fuck already.
We finally have our Nicks, Cruz and Manningham again!  
The Mike : 4/26/2024 5:34 am : link
With Brian Daboll scheming it and Drew Lock slinging it, at the very least, it should be an interesting offense again. Assuming Lock can take a "Josh Allen" leap forward under Daboll, and the OL can block, and we add a solid running back from this draft, I am guardedly optimistic that this offense can take a "Post DJ Era" leap forward in 2024.
Love?  
gary_from_chester : 4/26/2024 5:44 am : link
Nabers - Hyatt top duo.

Compare to AJ Brown and Devontae Smith?
Justin Jefferson and Addison?
Tyreek Hill and Waddle?

Love is a strong word. We have some potential, let’s see it pan out.

We needed a QB in the worst way. I’m having a hard time seeing this draft as anything but a failure.
It is looking strong  
Lines of Scrimmage : 4/26/2024 8:26 am : link
The OL and the running game (with the RB's) needs to be a lot better to maximize it.

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