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New York Giants 2nd Round Selection: S Tyler Nubin

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 8:14 pm
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My only problem with this pick is that he's kind of slow for a db.  
Ira : 4/26/2024 8:57 pm : link
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Two Ballhawks  
Amc825 : 4/26/2024 8:57 pm : link
At safety with him and Belton,(stay healthy please) It’s a big change. McKinney, as good as he was at what he did always seemed more comfortable playing downhill. peppers was the same way.
 
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2024 8:59 pm : link
Every time I read about this guy the first thing is, not afraid to mix it up with the big boys. He’s a hitter.
RE: Nubin is going to be Kyle Hamilton  
Now Mike in MD : 4/26/2024 8:59 pm : link
In comment 16493466 ajr2456 said:
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That's a bold statement. Hope you're right. But bold
RE: Nubin is going to be Kyle Hamilton  
Now Mike in MD : 4/26/2024 9:00 pm : link
In comment 16493466 ajr2456 said:
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Good


That's a bold statement. Hope you're right. But bold
RE: you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?  
Trainmaster : 4/26/2024 9:00 pm : link
This!

Nubin picked at #47

Draft rankings for Nubin:

#52 ESPN
#42 Sporting News
#31 PFF
#39 Sy'56

#41 Average

Using the above, Nubin was the 34th best player in the draft and Giants got him in a need position at #47.

The DTs and CBs went quickly. The other option was to likely give up the 4th rounder or even the 3rd rounder to move up. Nubin is nice value by staying put.

Right now the Giants still have their 3rd rounder and 4th rounder to address DT or CB on defense and TE or RB on offense.

If you guys have the Ourlads guide  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:01 pm : link
I suggest you read it. It's pure Shane Bowen.
Loving this draft  
Rudy5757 : 4/26/2024 9:02 pm : link
Filling needs with quality. Some had this kid as a 1st rounder. Once you get out of the top 15, positional value goes out the window and you go for quality. This is a playmaker in the secondary. As much as I liked McKinney he didn’t make a lot of big plays.

2 plus starters so far. Can we make it 3?
RE: My only problem with this pick is that he's kind of slow for a db.  
Optimus-NY : 4/26/2024 9:03 pm : link
In comment 16493537 Ira said:
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I hear you.
Any chance the Giants bail for a 2025 2nd rounder  
BigBlue7 : 4/26/2024 9:04 pm : link
And a 4th or 5th this year?
Jesus  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:05 pm : link
The Beast's description about his experience in split zone coverage is even more Bowen.
RE: If you guys have the Ourlads guide  
BigBlue7 : 4/26/2024 9:05 pm : link
In comment 16493557 Eric from BBI said:
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I suggest you read it. It's pure Shane Bowen.


Yup. Brugler and Tice were saying the exact same thing on The Athletic draft stream. Raved about the fit
RE: RE: RE: Kind of laughing at those  
JoeSchoens11 : 4/26/2024 9:05 pm : link
In comment 16493437 Now Mike in MD said:
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saying his RAS was bad - when McKinney was listed with him and they were almost identical and Nubin was a bit faster and bigger.



I didn't know his RAS score until Eric posted it. It definitely surprised me.

Of course, if the score was really high, do you think people would be posting it to further justify the pick?



Looks like RAS really affected by only 10 reps on the bench.
The 31 inch vert worries me more
RE: RE: If you guys have the Ourlads guide  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:07 pm : link
In comment 16493582 BigBlue7 said:
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I suggest you read it. It's pure Shane Bowen.



Yup. Brugler and Tice were saying the exact same thing on The Athletic draft stream. Raved about the fit


If you find a link, can you post it? I'd love to see it.
RAS or overall athleticism  
AcesUp : 4/26/2024 9:07 pm : link
Not as important at safety. TE and Edge I’d pay close attention but not every position is created equal. Instincts and smarts close the gap there. Obviously you’d rather have it but that’s why he was there.
My gut  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:07 pm : link
tells me they wanted CB, but I bet you this is a guy they targeted.
I think they were looking at Melton  
JonC : 4/26/2024 9:10 pm : link
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They're looking for ballhawks  
JonC : 4/26/2024 9:11 pm : link
Plus level ball skills, instincts, and tackling.
RE: My only problem with this pick is that he's kind of slow for a db.  
section125 : 4/26/2024 9:13 pm : link
In comment 16493537 Ira said:
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But faster than McKinney...
He is a ball hawk  
uconngiant : 4/26/2024 9:14 pm : link
Which is perfect for the defense they will be running.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Kind of laughing at those  
Now Mike in MD : 4/26/2024 9:15 pm : link
In comment 16493584 JoeSchoens11 said:
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saying his RAS was bad - when McKinney was listed with him and they were almost identical and Nubin was a bit faster and bigger.



I didn't know his RAS score until Eric posted it. It definitely surprised me.

Of course, if the score was really high, do you think people would be posting it to further justify the pick?



Looks like RAS really affected by only 10 reps on the bench.

The 31 inch vert worries me more


Someone said he had meniscus surgery in the offseason. That would definitely impact that
A Run On Safeties Soon After The Nubin Pick  
Trainmaster : 4/26/2024 9:15 pm : link
Good timing Joe!

Grade: A Pick  
US1 Giants : 4/26/2024 9:15 pm : link
from The Athletic
He's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:15 pm : link
a ball hawk, but that's not his value here. He is physical and he tackles. He is smart and instinctive and has a ton of experience in type of coverages we will run. My guess is he will quickly become the field general back there.
Was lukewarm at first,  
BleedBlue46 : 4/26/2024 9:16 pm : link
But talking to friends he's a straight baller. Some guys testing don't match how they are just straight football players. I think sy is right when he says he could be better than Mckinney and he fits Bowen's system perfectly. 3 safety set will be used too.
Hamilton was slow at the combine too  
ij_reilly : 4/26/2024 9:17 pm : link
His meniscus was still bothering him.

Seems like a similar situation with our new safety.
RE: My gut  
gersh : 4/26/2024 9:18 pm : link
In comment 16493593 Eric from BBI said:
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tells me they wanted CB, but I bet you this is a guy they targeted.


Definitely
I would guess CB was the one position they were ready to compromise a bit on their value board but the way it played out - Nubin was clear choice over CB
Not. Sure if it's in the scouting report, but  
terptacular : 4/26/2024 9:28 pm : link
Does he ride ATVs?
RE: RE: My only problem with this pick is that he's kind of slow for a db.  
Ira : 4/26/2024 9:30 pm : link
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But faster than McKinney...


Good point.
People here having  
Jerry in_DC : 4/26/2024 9:31 pm : link
strong takes on Tyler Nubin is pretty hilarious. Just let it play out
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:32 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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#NYGiants had a private workout at Minnesota with Tyler Nubin. He said Mike Treier and Brandon Brown were there.
Says he's been crying tears of joy for 35 minutes since he got the call.

Nubin calls himself a Swiss Army knife.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:32 pm : link
Pat Leonard
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New Giants safety Tyler Nubin on a conference call with us: "I've been crying for the last 35 minutes."

Says he's emotional not over the work he has put in, but over all the sacrifices his family and people around him have made to make this possible

Cool moment
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:33 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Tyler Nubin likes to call himself a Swiss Army knife. He’s comfortable anywhere on the field.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:33 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Tyler Nubin said he’s super close with JMS. He was hoping he would get to play with him and Carter Coughlin again.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 9:33 pm : link
Jordan Raanan
@JordanRaanan
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New Giants S Tyler Nubin calls himself a "swiss army knife." Attributes his ball skills to his preparation.

"Really instinctive ... A lot of in-ball production ... loves football," one source said of what he brings to the table.
Getting to be like  
Jerry in_DC : 4/26/2024 9:35 pm : link
Bushwood Country Club in tbe locker room
No offense.....but the people who see football as a Madden game  
George from PA : 4/26/2024 9:38 pm : link
Doesn't understand Nubin...because his RAS is shit.

This guy is a football player....probably a starter in camp.

I doubt we lose him in 4 years....he is the type that become member of the ring of honor.

He fits what the new DC wants exactly
Here's what will probably happen  
Jerry in_DC : 4/26/2024 9:44 pm : link
As a rookie he'll play in some packages and make a few good plays. Then he'll be an ok sort of anonymous starter for 3 years. People will debate about whether he's good or not. Then he'll sign somewhere else for $12 M per year and people will ask whether we are getting a comp pick.
Number one saftey  
DaveW2 : 4/26/2024 9:48 pm : link
And number one receiver (according to some). Not a bad draft so far Joe.
RE: RE: RE: So another second round safety  
bwitz : 4/26/2024 9:49 pm : link
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they won’t resign to a second contract.



JFC... you guys need to give it a rest.



Humble request, please don't use God's name in vain. Thank you!


JFC. Deal with it.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Kind of laughing at those  
JoeSchoens11 : 4/26/2024 10:00 pm : link
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saying his RAS was bad - when McKinney was listed with him and they were almost identical and Nubin was a bit faster and bigger.



I didn't know his RAS score until Eric posted it. It definitely surprised me.

Of course, if the score was really high, do you think people would be posting it to further justify the pick?



Looks like RAS really affected by only 10 reps on the bench.

The 31 inch vert worries me more



Someone said he had meniscus surgery in the offseason. That would definitely impact that
Thanks, Now Mike. I definitely feel better knowing those numbers were with a bum knee. There’s a level of explosiveness I think all dbs should have.
That RAS  
SomeFan : 4/26/2024 10:03 pm : link
is fugly.
RE: RE: RE: Terrible pick  
SomeFan : 4/26/2024 10:10 pm : link
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it



As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.





Right? This take was so bad I actually thought it was tongue in cheek
that was certainly sarcasm
RE: RE: RE: RE: So another second round safety  
Chef : 4/26/2024 10:21 pm : link
In comment 16493827 bwitz said:
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they won’t resign to a second contract.



JFC... you guys need to give it a rest.



Humble request, please don't use God's name in vain. Thank you!



JFC. Deal with it.


Go fuck yourself and deal with it?
Just watched his highlights, better than MCKinney ...  
Manny in CA : 4/26/2024 10:31 pm : link

This guy's a BALLHAWK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh4vFj97oxU

I always thought McKinney (who was a very good player) had no business playing Free Safety. Nubin is a natural (his outstanding tackling skills are an added plus).

I'm going to enjoy seeing starts bet at Free, he or Belton.

When the Giants go to a three safety alignment (3rd and long), with the ball in the air, beware Belton and Nubin are gonna be all over it like "white on rice".

Outstanding pick.
good value  
bc4life : 4/26/2024 10:35 pm : link
at a position of need. what's not to like?
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 11:36 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Tyler Nubin revealed that he played six games last year on a torn meniscus. Got it scoped at the end of the season and accelerated his recovery process to get ready for the combine.
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logman : 4/27/2024 8:02 am : link
In comment 16494234 Eric from BBI said:
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Tyler Nubin revealed that he played six games last year on a torn meniscus. Got it scoped at the end of the season and accelerated his recovery process to get ready for the combine.


I imagine that would have had a negative impact on his RAS, for all the handwringers
RE: Here's what will probably happen  
gersh : 4/27/2024 8:33 am : link
In comment 16493800 Jerry in_DC said:
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As a rookie he'll play in some packages and make a few good plays. Then he'll be an ok sort of anonymous starter for 3 years. People will debate about whether he's good or not. Then he'll sign somewhere else for $12 M per year and people will ask whether we are getting a comp pick.

That was funny
RE: RE: would  
Dr. D : 4/27/2024 9:01 am : link
In comment 16493334 Doubledeuce22 said:
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you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?



Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.

You wanted to pay McKinney about 17M a yr? That would've been cray cray.

I don’t understand the whining and gnashing of teeth over this. We NEEDED a safety and we got the best one!
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