1. TYLER NUBIN, Minnesota (6-1, 205, 4.61, 2-3): High-school corner moved to safety once he reached the Twin Cities. “They played him (in the box) but if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space,” one scout said. “He is a special-teams demon. Nubin gives you more than (Kamren) Kinchens because he could be that big nickel. He plays with a physical mindset. He’s better than Kinchens in natural tight end matchups in man coverage or as a general slot guy. He’s got great ball skills, too. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Ran an unexpectedly slow 40. “That hurt him,” a second scout said. “Instincts are his thing. He’s quick to trigger. Better in zone than man. Physical around the line of scrimmage. Little tight in his backpedal but uses his size well to play physical and doesn’t give up separation much. Struggles to open his hips and change direction, but nothing crazy. Can track (the deep ball). Looks to lay a hit. I think he should have come out last year but I still think he’s a pretty good football player. Yes, he’ll be a starter. I would say second round but he would have been a first-rounder last year.” Just 10 reps on the bench press. “He doesn’t have great range but he can do the interchangeable stuff,” a third scout said. “He’ll be a good teams player. He’s had production on the ball.” Started 43 of 55 games, finishing with 207 tackles (4 ½ for loss), 13 picks and 24 passes defensed. From St. Charles, Ill.
and one of the highest graded safeties in country.
Nubin possesses the athleticism, football IQ and talent as a run-stopper to be a versatile and impactful safety in any scheme. He would likely make the most plays in a system that consistently uses two-deep coverages, allowing him to play free, robber and box safety roles.
PROS
Quick, controlled backpedal
Good first-step explosiveness
Desire to make impactful hits on ball carriers/pass catchers
Impressive ability to flip his hips to run
Effective blitzer, even from deep alignments
Top-tier ball skills for a safety
Excellent eyes/anticipation for where the ball is going
CONS
Leads with the crown of his helmet too much
Lighter run defender
Can be overaggressive in pursuit angles
1. TYLER NUBIN, Minnesota (6-1, 205, 4.61, 2-3): High-school corner moved to safety once he reached the Twin Cities. “They played him (in the box) but if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space,” one scout said. “He is a special-teams demon. Nubin gives you more than (Kamren) Kinchens because he could be that big nickel. He plays with a physical mindset. He’s better than Kinchens in natural tight end matchups in man coverage or as a general slot guy. He’s got great ball skills, too. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Ran an unexpectedly slow 40. “That hurt him,” a second scout said. “Instincts are his thing. He’s quick to trigger. Better in zone than man. Physical around the line of scrimmage. Little tight in his backpedal but uses his size well to play physical and doesn’t give up separation much. Struggles to open his hips and change direction, but nothing crazy. Can track (the deep ball). Looks to lay a hit. I think he should have come out last year but I still think he’s a pretty good football player. Yes, he’ll be a starter. I would say second round but he would have been a first-rounder last year.” Just 10 reps on the bench press. “He doesn’t have great range but he can do the interchangeable stuff,” a third scout said. “He’ll be a good teams player. He’s had production on the ball.” Started 43 of 55 games, finishing with 207 tackles (4 ½ for loss), 13 picks and 24 passes defensed. From St. Charles, Ill.
Physical, fundamentally sound, plays with more athleticism than his testing numbers would have you believe. Mark my words, this guy is gonna be a fan favorite.
a bad time for taking him... mainly because he took a QB in round one and didn't give that QB one of the last WRs in Ricky Pearsall. Total redemption for him... nice pick brother!
They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?
Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.
a bad time for taking him... mainly because he took a QB in round one and didn't give that QB one of the last WRs in Ricky Pearsall. Total redemption for him... nice pick brother!
Thanks, my friend. I guess I knew what I was doing. Ha! It happens sometimes.
They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
1. TYLER NUBIN, Minnesota (6-1, 205, 4.61, 2-3): High-school corner moved to safety once he reached the Twin Cities. “They played him (in the box) but if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space,” one scout said. “He is a special-teams demon. Nubin gives you more than (Kamren) Kinchens because he could be that big nickel. He plays with a physical mindset. He’s better than Kinchens in natural tight end matchups in man coverage or as a general slot guy. He’s got great ball skills, too. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Ran an unexpectedly slow 40. “That hurt him,” a second scout said. “Instincts are his thing. He’s quick to trigger. Better in zone than man. Physical around the line of scrimmage. Little tight in his backpedal but uses his size well to play physical and doesn’t give up separation much. Struggles to open his hips and change direction, but nothing crazy. Can track (the deep ball). Looks to lay a hit. I think he should have come out last year but I still think he’s a pretty good football player. Yes, he’ll be a starter. I would say second round but he would have been a first-rounder last year.” Just 10 reps on the bench press. “He doesn’t have great range but he can do the interchangeable stuff,” a third scout said. “He’ll be a good teams player. He’s had production on the ball.” Started 43 of 55 games, finishing with 207 tackles (4 ½ for loss), 13 picks and 24 passes defensed. From St. Charles, Ill.
JFC...that is a brutal RAS.
So was Xavier McKinney, and you KNOW that this position requires vision, anticipation and film study to be good. GO watch his highlights, the dude can play.
They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.
Needs to be a very good starter to justify the positional investment, but there’s very little reason to doubt that he will be. You have to trust Bowen on safeties.
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.
Right? This take was so bad I actually thought it was tongue in cheek
So was Xavier McKinney, and you KNOW that this position requires vision, anticipation and film study to be good. GO watch his highlights, the dude can play.
I'm not commenting on his play. Just how low the RAS score was.
I predicted we would select him in today's draft thread.
you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?
Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.
Not in the defense Shane Bowen is going to run. And I covered this in my preview.
They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
1.another interior DL that can rush the passer a bit
2. competent 2nd CB
3. edge passer rusher depth after azeez one more guy
1. agreed
2. Flott, McCloud or Hawkins - or a vet like Xavien Howard.
Adoree' Jackson.Stephon Gilmore or Steven Nelson.
3 ojulari? Good if can play more than 2 games
RE: I don’t think this staff knows what they are doing
They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
He had meniscus surgery right before the draft process and didn’t have time to train like some other guys do. Every scouting report you’ll read on him mentions he’s a good athlete.
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@Ourlads_Sy
47) NYG: Tyler Nubin - S/Minnesota
Thick-framed playmaker (13 career INT set a program record) is most effective playing downhill. Nice slide-in for the McKinney loss in free agency. Average speed in deep coverage can be somewhat hidden by his instincts and feel. Also an absolute monster on special teams.
this season becomes a non rebuilding season with the direction they went at QB....
he needs to attack CB/DT/Edge pass rusher depth in FA after the draft.
last year schoen rested after the draft and wasnt active when there was clear holes and depth that was crying out for signings especially OL depth. he must not make the same mistake in 2024.
their goal must be to get to 9 wins and a chance to make the playoffs.
He could be a Mckinney clone though. They seem very similar and I know bowen highly values safety in his d.
Sainristil is probably limited to slot CB so it can be argued that the Giants focused on a more premium position Some of the others are about 20 places lower than Nubin on ESPN's best available board. Benson being a rb is interesting but looks to be limited to a role player slot in his first year versus a starting safety safety.
says giants making 2 good picks so far is inconsistent with their typical strategy of making picks he didnt like years ago.
Odd, he ripped the Giants over the Nabers pick really hard with Eisen earlier today
yeah i was kidding - i think he was actually positive about nabers in the broadcast then ripped their decision making to eisen, but honestly his argument was hard to track because he didnt explicitly say they should have taken JJM.
from the Athletic: Maybe the most underrated player in the draft
Maybe the most underrated player in the draft, Tyler Nubin was both a solid coverage safety and a tremendous tackler at Minnesota. He will step in immediately for Xavier McKinney and thrive. With 43 starts, Nubin was experienced and highly respected. He finished his career with a school-record 13 interceptions and 24 passes defended along with 207 tackles. Nubin is a day-one starter.
says giants making 2 good picks so far is inconsistent with their typical strategy of making picks he didnt like years ago.
Odd, he ripped the Giants over the Nabers pick really hard with Eisen earlier today
yeah i was kidding - i think he was actually positive about nabers in the broadcast then ripped their decision making to eisen, but honestly his argument was hard to track because he didnt explicitly say they should have taken JJM.
he was arguing for direction not players.
he thinsk nabers/nubin are good players. but the giants continue to not move off DJ making tehir team suspect.
the #1 player at his position in the middle of round two.
at one of the few open positions on the roster.
my first reaction when madplaid picked him was negative, but the more i looked at it the more it made sense (and at the time i didnt know he had surgery before testing) - especially once his name hit the visit list.
Yep. P-J picked early was a little bit of a kick in the left one, then the CB run without signs of a trade up was like one in the right one.
Then the Nubin was a disappointment initially, but I got the need move .
Pick Grade:Elite
PFF’s top-ranked safety prospect, Nubin is versatile and impactful. He can be moved all over the secondary and handle the role, as he possesses a high-level football IQ and can stop the run with instincts to cover on the back end. Nubin sported a career-best 90.1 coverage grade in 2023 (first among Power Five safeties) and allowed a 33.0 passer rating in coverage from 2021 to 2023.
the #1 player at his position in the middle of round two.
hes a solid pick.... agree.
but the one slight is, when you are "rebuilding" team like we are, take premium player. CB DL (pass rusher types DT/ER) WR OT.
i think for day 1/2 picks you need to go premium. Not S/RB/FB/ off ballLB/TE/ST/run stuffers etc.
but once the giants went with nabers and not a QB, you have to win in 2024, this pick makes more sense.
Rebuilding ball clubs should not draft for position but for value. They took the #1 safety in the draft, not the 10th corner.
agree you should be going BPA at premium positions on day 1/2.
we need help at all positons so take CB, take DT/ER, take OL, take WR and trade slayton etc etc.
We have Isaiah Simmons....more athlete, than football player...and with Nubin, more football player than athlete....they are going to do a scientific merge
At safety with him and Belton,(stay healthy please) It’s a big change. McKinney, as good as he was at what he did always seemed more comfortable playing downhill. peppers was the same way.
Using the above, Nubin was the 34th best player in the draft and Giants got him in a need position at #47.
The DTs and CBs went quickly. The other option was to likely give up the 4th rounder or even the 3rd rounder to move up. Nubin is nice value by staying put.
Right now the Giants still have their 3rd rounder and 4th rounder to address DT or CB on defense and TE or RB on offense.
Filling needs with quality. Some had this kid as a 1st rounder. Once you get out of the top 15, positional value goes out the window and you go for quality. This is a playmaker in the secondary. As much as I liked McKinney he didn’t make a lot of big plays.
2 plus starters so far. Can we make it 3?
RE: My only problem with this pick is that he's kind of slow for a db.
Not as important at safety. TE and Edge I’d pay close attention but not every position is created equal. Instincts and smarts close the gap there. Obviously you’d rather have it but that’s why he was there.
a ball hawk, but that's not his value here. He is physical and he tackles. He is smart and instinctive and has a ton of experience in type of coverages we will run. My guess is he will quickly become the field general back there.
But talking to friends he's a straight baller. Some guys testing don't match how they are just straight football players. I think sy is right when he says he could be better than Mckinney and he fits Bowen's system perfectly. 3 safety set will be used too.
tells me they wanted CB, but I bet you this is a guy they targeted.
Definitely
I would guess CB was the one position they were ready to compromise a bit on their value board but the way it played out - Nubin was clear choice over CB
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#NYGiants had a private workout at Minnesota with Tyler Nubin. He said Mike Treier and Brandon Brown were there.
Says he's been crying tears of joy for 35 minutes since he got the call.
As a rookie he'll play in some packages and make a few good plays. Then he'll be an ok sort of anonymous starter for 3 years. People will debate about whether he's good or not. Then he'll sign somewhere else for $12 M per year and people will ask whether we are getting a comp pick.
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.
Right? This take was so bad I actually thought it was tongue in cheek
I always thought McKinney (who was a very good player) had no business playing Free Safety. Nubin is a natural (his outstanding tackling skills are an added plus).
I'm going to enjoy seeing starts bet at Free, he or Belton.
When the Giants go to a three safety alignment (3rd and long), with the ball in the air, beware Belton and Nubin are gonna be all over it like "white on rice".
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Tyler Nubin revealed that he played six games last year on a torn meniscus. Got it scoped at the end of the season and accelerated his recovery process to get ready for the combine.
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Tyler Nubin revealed that he played six games last year on a torn meniscus. Got it scoped at the end of the season and accelerated his recovery process to get ready for the combine.
I imagine that would have had a negative impact on his RAS, for all the handwringers
As a rookie he'll play in some packages and make a few good plays. Then he'll be an ok sort of anonymous starter for 3 years. People will debate about whether he's good or not. Then he'll sign somewhere else for $12 M per year and people will ask whether we are getting a comp pick.
you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?
Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.
You wanted to pay McKinney about 17M a yr? That would've been cray cray.
I don’t understand the whining and gnashing of teeth over this. We NEEDED a safety and we got the best one!
1. TYLER NUBIN, Minnesota (6-1, 205, 4.61, 2-3): High-school corner moved to safety once he reached the Twin Cities. “They played him (in the box) but if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space,” one scout said. “He is a special-teams demon. Nubin gives you more than (Kamren) Kinchens because he could be that big nickel. He plays with a physical mindset. He’s better than Kinchens in natural tight end matchups in man coverage or as a general slot guy. He’s got great ball skills, too. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Ran an unexpectedly slow 40. “That hurt him,” a second scout said. “Instincts are his thing. He’s quick to trigger. Better in zone than man. Physical around the line of scrimmage. Little tight in his backpedal but uses his size well to play physical and doesn’t give up separation much. Struggles to open his hips and change direction, but nothing crazy. Can track (the deep ball). Looks to lay a hit. I think he should have come out last year but I still think he’s a pretty good football player. Yes, he’ll be a starter. I would say second round but he would have been a first-rounder last year.” Just 10 reps on the bench press. “He doesn’t have great range but he can do the interchangeable stuff,” a third scout said. “He’ll be a good teams player. He’s had production on the ball.” Started 43 of 55 games, finishing with 207 tackles (4 ½ for loss), 13 picks and 24 passes defensed. From St. Charles, Ill.
JFC... you guys need to give it a rest.
Nubin possesses the athleticism, football IQ and talent as a run-stopper to be a versatile and impactful safety in any scheme. He would likely make the most plays in a system that consistently uses two-deep coverages, allowing him to play free, robber and box safety roles.
PROS
Quick, controlled backpedal
Good first-step explosiveness
Desire to make impactful hits on ball carriers/pass catchers
Impressive ability to flip his hips to run
Effective blitzer, even from deep alignments
Top-tier ball skills for a safety
Excellent eyes/anticipation for where the ball is going
CONS
Leads with the crown of his helmet too much
Lighter run defender
Can be overaggressive in pursuit angles
WTF and are they 5 minutes late with there announcements? I look at BBI and the pick is listed. Sort of annoying.
Why be a jerk?
Good pick for the Giants and a need
Perhaps you missed the run of the top CBs ahead of them
Safety was a big need too.
Holy crap!! I got it right. Called it. LOL
Bowen uses three safety looks.
Nubin, Pinnock and Belton/Mills.
1. TYLER NUBIN, Minnesota (6-1, 205, 4.61, 2-3): High-school corner moved to safety once he reached the Twin Cities. “They played him (in the box) but if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space,” one scout said. “He is a special-teams demon. Nubin gives you more than (Kamren) Kinchens because he could be that big nickel. He plays with a physical mindset. He’s better than Kinchens in natural tight end matchups in man coverage or as a general slot guy. He’s got great ball skills, too. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Ran an unexpectedly slow 40. “That hurt him,” a second scout said. “Instincts are his thing. He’s quick to trigger. Better in zone than man. Physical around the line of scrimmage. Little tight in his backpedal but uses his size well to play physical and doesn’t give up separation much. Struggles to open his hips and change direction, but nothing crazy. Can track (the deep ball). Looks to lay a hit. I think he should have come out last year but I still think he’s a pretty good football player. Yes, he’ll be a starter. I would say second round but he would have been a first-rounder last year.” Just 10 reps on the bench press. “He doesn’t have great range but he can do the interchangeable stuff,” a third scout said. “He’ll be a good teams player. He’s had production on the ball.” Started 43 of 55 games, finishing with 207 tackles (4 ½ for loss), 13 picks and 24 passes defensed. From St. Charles, Ill.
JFC...that is a brutal RAS.
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they won’t resign to a second contract.
Why be a jerk?
Good pick for the Giants and a need
Schoen doesn’t value safeties but takes one with a tip 50 pick?
Strictly for need
Vocal tone setter we haven't had since Rolle.
Pack it up boys, seasons over.
Don't be such a douche
So like 6 hall of famers incoming
“Welcome to New York” || Minnesota Safety Tyler Nubin Highlights ᴴᴰ - ( New Window )
I think you guys give Dane Belton to much credit. I will say I think Nubin starts over him. After losing Xavier we needed a safety.
Is this sarcasm ? Your board ? Who the f are you?
Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.
And yet people still complain. Considering how the board fell, we were very fortunate he was still available at #47.
JFC Eric I was just going to say this. People here want to make me put my head through the wall.
Would have taken Rakestraw
Thanks, my friend. I guess I knew what I was doing. Ha! It happens sometimes.
Wasn't on YOUR board. Oh the humanity
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1. TYLER NUBIN, Minnesota (6-1, 205, 4.61, 2-3): High-school corner moved to safety once he reached the Twin Cities. “They played him (in the box) but if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space,” one scout said. “He is a special-teams demon. Nubin gives you more than (Kamren) Kinchens because he could be that big nickel. He plays with a physical mindset. He’s better than Kinchens in natural tight end matchups in man coverage or as a general slot guy. He’s got great ball skills, too. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Ran an unexpectedly slow 40. “That hurt him,” a second scout said. “Instincts are his thing. He’s quick to trigger. Better in zone than man. Physical around the line of scrimmage. Little tight in his backpedal but uses his size well to play physical and doesn’t give up separation much. Struggles to open his hips and change direction, but nothing crazy. Can track (the deep ball). Looks to lay a hit. I think he should have come out last year but I still think he’s a pretty good football player. Yes, he’ll be a starter. I would say second round but he would have been a first-rounder last year.” Just 10 reps on the bench press. “He doesn’t have great range but he can do the interchangeable stuff,” a third scout said. “He’ll be a good teams player. He’s had production on the ball.” Started 43 of 55 games, finishing with 207 tackles (4 ½ for loss), 13 picks and 24 passes defensed. From St. Charles, Ill.
JFC...that is a brutal RAS.
As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.
Why not solidify the 0-line?
The line really needs to be fixed, I'm really hoping Free Agency was enough? I'm feeling like we missed some value/need
This Safety may be rated #1, however, is not head and shoulders above the next 3-4 guys
Dont try to reason with them Eric
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.
Right? This take was so bad I actually thought it was tongue in cheek
Giants building a very promising defense. Need another CB badly though…
He has 13 INT the last three seasons. Saban said he’s the top safety in the draft.
100% outside CB veteran will be signed.
JFC...that is a brutal RAS.
So was Xavier McKinney, and you KNOW that this position requires vision, anticipation and film study to be good. GO watch his highlights, the dude can play.
I'm not commenting on his play. Just how low the RAS score was.
I predicted we would select him in today's draft thread.
Why not solidify the 0-line?
The line really needs to be fixed, I'm really hoping Free Agency was enough? I'm feeling like we missed some value/need
This Safety may be rated #1, however, is not head and shoulders above the next 3-4 guys
They signed 2 vets for that
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you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?
Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.
Not in the defense Shane Bowen is going to run. And I covered this in my preview.
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they won’t resign to a second contract.
Why be a jerk?
Good pick for the Giants and a need
Schoen doesn’t value safeties but takes one with a tip 50 pick?
He's solid..I liked Smith, hall Jr, Jenkins dt or sairisitl cb or Benson rb or Seumalia T/G
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
Is this sarcasm ? Your board ? Who the f are you?
Lippy, clearly
2. competent 2nd CB
3. edge passer rusher depth after azeez one more guy
Some of you guys are REALLY starting to piss Eric & me off...
That's the entire organization, lol.
Yes, even though Sy not impressed he still gave him an 81. That makes perfect sense.
They gave the ST coach a lot - he will push to have a top 10 unit.
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they won’t resign to a second contract.
JFC... you guys need to give it a rest.
Humble request, please don't use God's name in vain. Thank you!
2. competent 2nd CB
3. edge passer rusher depth after azeez one more guy
1. agreed
2. Flott, McCloud or Hawkins - or a vet like Xavien Howard.
Adoree' Jackson.Stephon Gilmore or Steven Nelson.
3 ojulari? Good if can play more than 2 games
Circle Circle Dot Dot dang u got that moron shot.
Geddafookouttaheaaa.
I didn't know his RAS score until Eric posted it. It definitely surprised me.
Of course, if the score was really high, do you think people would be posting it to further justify the pick?
This is what you think after they just drafted the top rated safety at pick 47?
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
Is this sarcasm ? Your board ? Who the f are you?
It was sarcasm.
Odd, he ripped the Giants over the Nabers pick really hard with Eisen earlier today
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saying his RAS was bad - when McKinney was listed with him and they were almost identical and Nubin was a bit faster and bigger.
I didn't know his RAS score until Eric posted it. It definitely surprised me.
Of course, if the score was really high, do you think people would be posting it to further justify the pick?
Looks like RAS really affected by only 10 reps on the bench.
@Ourlads_Sy
47) NYG: Tyler Nubin - S/Minnesota
Thick-framed playmaker (13 career INT set a program record) is most effective playing downhill. Nice slide-in for the McKinney loss in free agency. Average speed in deep coverage can be somewhat hidden by his instincts and feel. Also an absolute monster on special teams.
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Quality pick - easy fill-in for McKinney and maybe a better player
he needs to attack CB/DT/Edge pass rusher depth in FA after the draft.
last year schoen rested after the draft and wasnt active when there was clear holes and depth that was crying out for signings especially OL depth. he must not make the same mistake in 2024.
their goal must be to get to 9 wins and a chance to make the playoffs.
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Odd, he ripped the Giants over the Nabers pick really hard with Eisen earlier today
I didn't know who he was before he ripped Nabers. Now I know who he is. If there are many like me then he achieved his goal.
Sainristil is probably limited to slot CB so it can be argued that the Giants focused on a more premium position Some of the others are about 20 places lower than Nubin on ESPN's best available board. Benson being a rb is interesting but looks to be limited to a role player slot in his first year versus a starting safety safety.
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says giants making 2 good picks so far is inconsistent with their typical strategy of making picks he didnt like years ago.
Odd, he ripped the Giants over the Nabers pick really hard with Eisen earlier today
yeah i was kidding - i think he was actually positive about nabers in the broadcast then ripped their decision making to eisen, but honestly his argument was hard to track because he didnt explicitly say they should have taken JJM.
Maybe the most underrated player in the draft, Tyler Nubin was both a solid coverage safety and a tremendous tackler at Minnesota. He will step in immediately for Xavier McKinney and thrive. With 43 starts, Nubin was experienced and highly respected. He finished his career with a school-record 13 interceptions and 24 passes defended along with 207 tackles. Nubin is a day-one starter.
Grade: A
Go GMen!
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says giants making 2 good picks so far is inconsistent with their typical strategy of making picks he didnt like years ago.
Odd, he ripped the Giants over the Nabers pick really hard with Eisen earlier today
yeah i was kidding - i think he was actually positive about nabers in the broadcast then ripped their decision making to eisen, but honestly his argument was hard to track because he didnt explicitly say they should have taken JJM.
he was arguing for direction not players.
he thinsk nabers/nubin are good players. but the giants continue to not move off DJ making tehir team suspect.
thats why i thought pass rushing DT was going to be the pick if you are going to rely on your front four.
Have you not been paying attention to the last 10 years?
I’m. OT the only one who thought that! 😂
that's lofty. hamilton is a freak who went top 15 for good reason. ill take comparable to mckinney.
at one of the few open positions on the roster.
my first reaction when madplaid picked him was negative, but the more i looked at it the more it made sense (and at the time i didnt know he had surgery before testing) - especially once his name hit the visit list.
hes a solid pick.... agree.
but the one slight is, when you are "rebuilding" team like we are, take premium player. CB DL (pass rusher types DT/ER) WR OT.
i think for day 1/2 picks you need to go premium. Not S/RB/FB/ off ballLB/TE/ST/run stuffers etc.
but once the giants went with nabers and not a QB, you have to win in 2024, this pick makes more sense.
Yep. P-J picked early was a little bit of a kick in the left one, then the CB run without signs of a trade up was like one in the right one.
Then the Nubin was a disappointment initially, but I got the need move .
PFF’s top-ranked safety prospect, Nubin is versatile and impactful. He can be moved all over the secondary and handle the role, as he possesses a high-level football IQ and can stop the run with instincts to cover on the back end. Nubin sported a career-best 90.1 coverage grade in 2023 (first among Power Five safeties) and allowed a 33.0 passer rating in coverage from 2021 to 2023.
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not running Wink's defense anymore. It's going to be two-deep, split safety packages. Lot of nickel and dime. Lot of three safeties.
thats why i thought pass rushing DT was going to be the pick if you are going to rely on your front four.
You're not paying attention. Did you see how many DTs went off the board in round two before us?
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the #1 player at his position in the middle of round two.
hes a solid pick.... agree.
but the one slight is, when you are "rebuilding" team like we are, take premium player. CB DL (pass rusher types DT/ER) WR OT.
i think for day 1/2 picks you need to go premium. Not S/RB/FB/ off ballLB/TE/ST/run stuffers etc.
but once the giants went with nabers and not a QB, you have to win in 2024, this pick makes more sense.
Rebuilding ball clubs should not draft for position but for value. They took the #1 safety in the draft, not the 10th corner.
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says giants making 2 good picks so far is inconsistent with their typical strategy of making picks he didnt like years ago.
Odd, he ripped the Giants over the Nabers pick really hard with Eisen earlier today
lol
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the #1 player at his position in the middle of round two.
hes a solid pick.... agree.
but the one slight is, when you are "rebuilding" team like we are, take premium player. CB DL (pass rusher types DT/ER) WR OT.
i think for day 1/2 picks you need to go premium. Not S/RB/FB/ off ballLB/TE/ST/run stuffers etc.
but once the giants went with nabers and not a QB, you have to win in 2024, this pick makes more sense.
Rebuilding ball clubs should not draft for position but for value. They took the #1 safety in the draft, not the 10th corner.
agree you should be going BPA at premium positions on day 1/2.
we need help at all positons so take CB, take DT/ER, take OL, take WR and trade slayton etc etc.
That's Bowen.
I would have been happy with the #1 RB or the #1 safety. We really need to start winning.
^This. He's also a great prospect. Glad we got him.
That's a bold statement. Hope you're right. But bold
That's a bold statement. Hope you're right. But bold
Nubin picked at #47
Draft rankings for Nubin:
#52 ESPN
#42 Sporting News
#31 PFF
#39 Sy'56
#41 Average
Using the above, Nubin was the 34th best player in the draft and Giants got him in a need position at #47.
The DTs and CBs went quickly. The other option was to likely give up the 4th rounder or even the 3rd rounder to move up. Nubin is nice value by staying put.
Right now the Giants still have their 3rd rounder and 4th rounder to address DT or CB on defense and TE or RB on offense.
2 plus starters so far. Can we make it 3?
I hear you.
Yup. Brugler and Tice were saying the exact same thing on The Athletic draft stream. Raved about the fit
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saying his RAS was bad - when McKinney was listed with him and they were almost identical and Nubin was a bit faster and bigger.
I didn't know his RAS score until Eric posted it. It definitely surprised me.
Of course, if the score was really high, do you think people would be posting it to further justify the pick?
Looks like RAS really affected by only 10 reps on the bench.
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I suggest you read it. It's pure Shane Bowen.
Yup. Brugler and Tice were saying the exact same thing on The Athletic draft stream. Raved about the fit
If you find a link, can you post it? I'd love to see it.
But faster than McKinney...
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saying his RAS was bad - when McKinney was listed with him and they were almost identical and Nubin was a bit faster and bigger.
I didn't know his RAS score until Eric posted it. It definitely surprised me.
Of course, if the score was really high, do you think people would be posting it to further justify the pick?
Looks like RAS really affected by only 10 reps on the bench.
The 31 inch vert worries me more
Someone said he had meniscus surgery in the offseason. That would definitely impact that
Seems like a similar situation with our new safety.
Definitely
I would guess CB was the one position they were ready to compromise a bit on their value board but the way it played out - Nubin was clear choice over CB
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But faster than McKinney...
Good point.
@art_stapleton
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#NYGiants had a private workout at Minnesota with Tyler Nubin. He said Mike Treier and Brandon Brown were there.
Says he's been crying tears of joy for 35 minutes since he got the call.
Nubin calls himself a Swiss Army knife.
@PLeonardNYDN
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New Giants safety Tyler Nubin on a conference call with us: "I've been crying for the last 35 minutes."
Says he's emotional not over the work he has put in, but over all the sacrifices his family and people around him have made to make this possible
Cool moment
@Dan_Salomone
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Tyler Nubin likes to call himself a Swiss Army knife. He’s comfortable anywhere on the field.
@Dan_Salomone
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Tyler Nubin said he’s super close with JMS. He was hoping he would get to play with him and Carter Coughlin again.
@JordanRaanan
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New Giants S Tyler Nubin calls himself a "swiss army knife." Attributes his ball skills to his preparation.
"Really instinctive ... A lot of in-ball production ... loves football," one source said of what he brings to the table.
This guy is a football player....probably a starter in camp.
I doubt we lose him in 4 years....he is the type that become member of the ring of honor.
He fits what the new DC wants exactly
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they won’t resign to a second contract.
JFC... you guys need to give it a rest.
Humble request, please don't use God's name in vain. Thank you!
JFC. Deal with it.
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In comment 16493428 bw in dc said:
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saying his RAS was bad - when McKinney was listed with him and they were almost identical and Nubin was a bit faster and bigger.
I didn't know his RAS score until Eric posted it. It definitely surprised me.
Of course, if the score was really high, do you think people would be posting it to further justify the pick?
Looks like RAS really affected by only 10 reps on the bench.
The 31 inch vert worries me more
Someone said he had meniscus surgery in the offseason. That would definitely impact that
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it
As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.
Right? This take was so bad I actually thought it was tongue in cheek
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they won’t resign to a second contract.
JFC... you guys need to give it a rest.
Humble request, please don't use God's name in vain. Thank you!
JFC. Deal with it.
Go fuck yourself and deal with it?
This guy's a BALLHAWK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh4vFj97oxU
I always thought McKinney (who was a very good player) had no business playing Free Safety. Nubin is a natural (his outstanding tackling skills are an added plus).
I'm going to enjoy seeing starts bet at Free, he or Belton.
When the Giants go to a three safety alignment (3rd and long), with the ball in the air, beware Belton and Nubin are gonna be all over it like "white on rice".
Outstanding pick.
@GiantInsider
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Tyler Nubin revealed that he played six games last year on a torn meniscus. Got it scoped at the end of the season and accelerated his recovery process to get ready for the combine.
@GiantInsider
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Tyler Nubin revealed that he played six games last year on a torn meniscus. Got it scoped at the end of the season and accelerated his recovery process to get ready for the combine.
I imagine that would have had a negative impact on his RAS, for all the handwringers
That was funny
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you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?
Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.
You wanted to pay McKinney about 17M a yr? That would've been cray cray.
I don’t understand the whining and gnashing of teeth over this. We NEEDED a safety and we got the best one!