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New York Giants 2nd Round Selection: S Tyler Nubin

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 8:14 pm
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ryanmkeane : 4/26/2024 8:26 pm : link
You know who also had a horrific RAS? Deandre Hopkins, Dalvin Cook, Arik Armstead, Xavien Howard, and Nick Bolton.
Jeremiah  
Sammo85 : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
said he was his top safety and wasn’t close.
RE: would  
Doubledeuce22 : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16493302 Eric from BBI said:
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you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?


Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.
RE: Safety  
AcidTest : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16493293 Eric from BBI said:
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is a major need and he was rated as the #1 safety in the draft.


And yet people still complain. Considering how the board fell, we were very fortunate he was still available at #47.
Good pick and a fit from everything  
Simms11 : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
I’ve seen. Need a ballhawk safety.
Sy had a 81 grade starter first year grade on him. His #3 safety  
Blue21 : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
That's good enough for me
RE: would  
NYGiantFL007 : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16493302 Eric from BBI said:
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you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?


JFC Eric I was just going to say this. People here want to make me put my head through the wall.
RE: would  
NJBlueTuna : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16493302 Eric from BBI said:
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you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?


Would have taken Rakestraw
RE: I gave MadPlaid  
MadPlaid : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16493306 Amtoft said:
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a bad time for taking him... mainly because he took a QB in round one and didn't give that QB one of the last WRs in Ricky Pearsall. Total redemption for him... nice pick brother!

Thanks, my friend. I guess I knew what I was doing. Ha! It happens sometimes.
RE: Terrible pick  
Mayo2JZ : 4/26/2024 8:27 pm : link
In comment 16493314 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it


Wasn't on YOUR board. Oh the humanity
RE: RE: McGinn + RAS (tested very poorly)  
Joey in VA : 4/26/2024 8:28 pm : link
In comment 16493298 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16493250 Eric on Li said:


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Shoutout to madplaid!!!!!

1. TYLER NUBIN, Minnesota (6-1, 205, 4.61, 2-3): High-school corner moved to safety once he reached the Twin Cities. “They played him (in the box) but if you watch him covering on special teams you know he can play in space,” one scout said. “He is a special-teams demon. Nubin gives you more than (Kamren) Kinchens because he could be that big nickel. He plays with a physical mindset. He’s better than Kinchens in natural tight end matchups in man coverage or as a general slot guy. He’s got great ball skills, too. For a guy you don’t see going backwards very often he’s always around the ball.” Ran an unexpectedly slow 40. “That hurt him,” a second scout said. “Instincts are his thing. He’s quick to trigger. Better in zone than man. Physical around the line of scrimmage. Little tight in his backpedal but uses his size well to play physical and doesn’t give up separation much. Struggles to open his hips and change direction, but nothing crazy. Can track (the deep ball). Looks to lay a hit. I think he should have come out last year but I still think he’s a pretty good football player. Yes, he’ll be a starter. I would say second round but he would have been a first-rounder last year.” Just 10 reps on the bench press. “He doesn’t have great range but he can do the interchangeable stuff,” a third scout said. “He’ll be a good teams player. He’s had production on the ball.” Started 43 of 55 games, finishing with 207 tackles (4 ½ for loss), 13 picks and 24 passes defensed. From St. Charles, Ill.





JFC...that is a brutal RAS.
So was Xavier McKinney, and you KNOW that this position requires vision, anticipation and film study to be good. GO watch his highlights, the dude can play.
RE: Terrible pick  
BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit : 4/26/2024 8:28 pm : link
In comment 16493314 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it


As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.


I'm curious  
Semipro Lineman : 4/26/2024 8:29 pm : link
who were the better picks available? Don't just give position but explain why you would have taken a different player instead...
People are really pissed at this pick ?  
Ned In Atlanta : 4/26/2024 8:29 pm : link
Let's trot out Jalen Mills. Some on this board are constantly miserable
Preferred Seumalia, Benson or Sainrisitil or Hall jr or Jenkins  
BleedBlue46 : 4/26/2024 8:29 pm : link
He could be a Mckinney clone though. They seem very similar and I know bowen highly values safety in his d.
If we're drafting for need  
Don from CT : 4/26/2024 8:29 pm : link

Why not solidify the 0-line?

The line really needs to be fixed, I'm really hoping Free Agency was enough? I'm feeling like we missed some value/need

This Safety may be rated #1, however, is not head and shoulders above the next 3-4 guys
RE: would  
DefenseWins : 4/26/2024 8:29 pm : link
In comment 16493302 Eric from BBI said:
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you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?


Dont try to reason with them Eric
People are going to love Nubin  
ajr2456 : 4/26/2024 8:29 pm : link
Guy makes plays
It’s a solid pick  
John in NC : 4/26/2024 8:29 pm : link
Needs to be a very good starter to justify the positional investment, but there’s very little reason to doubt that he will be. You have to trust Bowen on safeties.
RE: RE: Terrible pick  
dlauster : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
In comment 16493349 BJacobs The Tiptoe Bandit said:
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In comment 16493314 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it



As I said earlier. Just miserable people with miserable lives.



Right? This take was so bad I actually thought it was tongue in cheek
Very good player  
Breeze_94 : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
Fills a need. Creates turnovers. Not sure what else people wanted.

Giants building a very promising defense. Need another CB badly though…
RE: Absolutely terrible  
Costy16 : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
In comment 16493271 BigBlueDawg56 said:
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Pick. We needed a corner so much more then a safety


He has 13 INT the last three seasons. Saban said he’s the top safety in the draft.
This tells me the giants will be active in FA for CB  
bigbluewillrise : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
after the draft.


100% outside CB veteran will be signed.
RE: RE: RE: McGinn + RAS (tested very poorly)  
bw in dc : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
In comment 16493348 Joey in VA said:
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JFC...that is a brutal RAS.

So was Xavier McKinney, and you KNOW that this position requires vision, anticipation and film study to be good. GO watch his highlights, the dude can play.


I'm not commenting on his play. Just how low the RAS score was.

I predicted we would select him in today's draft thread.
RE: If we're drafting for need  
Giantsbigblue : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
In comment 16493360 Don from CT said:
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Why not solidify the 0-line?

The line really needs to be fixed, I'm really hoping Free Agency was enough? I'm feeling like we missed some value/need

This Safety may be rated #1, however, is not head and shoulders above the next 3-4 guys


They signed 2 vets for that
RE: RE: would  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
In comment 16493334 Doubledeuce22 said:
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In comment 16493302 Eric from BBI said:


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you rather have the 9th or 10th cornerback or the #1 safety?



Ask yourself that same question but in the NFL right now. Safety is the RB of the defense. Add it when you’re ready to compete. Almost makes no sense to let McKinney walk just to use your second on a questionable safety. Don’t like it at all.


Not in the defense Shane Bowen is going to run. And I covered this in my preview.
Watch this guy.  
Straw Hat : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
Great player. Anyone crying about this pick is going to look like an idiot.
RE: RE: RE: So another second round safety  
Giants1986 : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
In comment 16493299 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 16493251 McNally's_Nuts said:
Schoen is a disaster

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they won’t resign to a second contract.



Why be a jerk?


Good pick for the Giants and a need




Schoen doesn’t value safeties but takes one with a tip 50 pick?
I like the pick  
bigblue12 : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
He was one of my guys.
RE: I'm curious  
BleedBlue46 : 4/26/2024 8:30 pm : link
In comment 16493354 Semipro Lineman said:
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who were the better picks available? Don't just give position but explain why you would have taken a different player instead...


He's solid..I liked Smith, hall Jr, Jenkins dt or sairisitl cb or Benson rb or Seumalia T/G
 
ryanmkeane : 4/26/2024 8:31 pm : link
Sy just tweeted he thinks Nubin might be better than McKinney.
I am  
Amtoft : 4/26/2024 8:31 pm : link
wondering if we bring back Jackson on a 1 year deal
First round grade for Sy  
Sean : 4/26/2024 8:31 pm : link
Fills a need. I like it. Go get another starter in the third round.
I would think that our DC made that recommendation.  
solarmike : 4/26/2024 8:31 pm : link
And all agreed.
RE: Watch this guy.  
NJLCO : 4/26/2024 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16493378 Straw Hat said:
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Great player. Anyone crying about this pick is going to look like an idiot.

Plus 1
RE: RE: Terrible pick  
Kevin in Annapolis : 4/26/2024 8:32 pm : link
In comment 16493329 Rory said:
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In comment 16493314 Larry in Pencilvania said:


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They again pick a guy in the second round who wasn't on my board. Stupid name, slow as hell and they won't resign him. Why bother. Has Mara all over it



Is this sarcasm ? Your board ? Who the f are you?


Lippy, clearly
I honesty question the intelligence  
blueblood : 4/26/2024 8:32 pm : link
of some of the Giants fanbase. We cry they dont resign McKinney. We draft a McKinney replacement... and we cry about that..
I don’t think this staff knows what they are doing  
Jim in Forest Hills : 4/26/2024 8:33 pm : link
Feels like they are running in circles
we are 3 pieces away from a top 10 D  
bigbluewillrise : 4/26/2024 8:33 pm : link
1.another interior DL that can rush the passer a bit
2. competent 2nd CB
3. edge passer rusher depth after azeez one more guy
It's funny  
Toth029 : 4/26/2024 8:33 pm : link
Some mentioned how the Giants and Joe Schoen needed to find starters tonight, and he found the FS. Yet they still whine.
When Nick Saban  
GruningsOnTheHill : 4/26/2024 8:33 pm : link
says this guy is the best safety in the draft and has him on his All-Defense Draft Team, that's good enough for me.

Some of you guys are REALLY starting to piss Eric & me off...
RE: I don’t think this staff knows what they are doing  
Optimus-NY : 4/26/2024 8:33 pm : link
In comment 16493395 Jim in Forest Hills said:
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Feels like they are running in circles


That's the entire organization, lol.
Kind of laughing at those  
section125 : 4/26/2024 8:33 pm : link
saying his RAS was bad - when McKinney was listed with him and they were almost identical and Nubin was a bit faster and bigger.
Colts  
Amtoft : 4/26/2024 8:33 pm : link
take Mitchell... the fall stops
RE: Sy gave him an 81 grade  
Now Mike in MD : 4/26/2024 8:34 pm : link
In comment 16493322 section125 said:
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but reading his review I get the feeling he is not very impressed despite some strong points.


Yes, even though Sy not impressed he still gave him an 81. That makes perfect sense.
Solid pick  
JonC : 4/26/2024 8:34 pm : link
Versatile, long, rangey ballhawk FS with good positional instincts.
i would draft DT in the 3rd  
bigbluewillrise : 4/26/2024 8:34 pm : link
and sign quality vet CB and edge rusher after the draft and give Bowen a chance to have a top 10 unit.

They gave the ST coach a lot - he will push to have a top 10 unit.
joel klatt a tyler nubin fan  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2024 8:35 pm : link
says giants making 2 good picks so far is inconsistent with their typical strategy of making picks he didnt like years ago.
RE: RE: So another second round safety  
Antonio Fierce : 4/26/2024 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16493259 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16493251 McNally's_Nuts said:


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they won’t resign to a second contract.



JFC... you guys need to give it a rest.


Humble request, please don't use God's name in vain. Thank you!
RE: we are 3 pieces away from a top 10 D  
gersh : 4/26/2024 8:36 pm : link
In comment 16493397 bigbluewillrise said:
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1.another interior DL that can rush the passer a bit
2. competent 2nd CB
3. edge passer rusher depth after azeez one more guy


1. agreed
2. Flott, McCloud or Hawkins - or a vet like Xavien Howard.
Adoree' Jackson.Stephon Gilmore or Steven Nelson.
3 ojulari? Good if can play more than 2 games
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