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Des51 : 4/27/2024 12:18 am
Gree Bay has the most picks with 8
Chicago only has 1
Division rivals as follows
Eagles have 7, 3 in the 4th, 3 in the 5th and 1 in the 6th
Dallas has 4, a 5th, a 6th, and 2 in the 7th
Washington has 3, 2 in the 5th and 1 in the 7th
every  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 12:20 am : link
year with the Eagles.
watch  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 12:21 am : link
Philly's cuts this summer.
Would wager that PHI  
gameday555 : 4/27/2024 12:24 am : link
Trades up for players they covet and/or trades back, accumulating 2025 assets. That roster is too deep to carry that many draft picks.
they have more picks  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 2:09 am : link
today than we have in the entire draft.
Also, I had heard that this draft have fewer draftable grades  
George from PA : 4/27/2024 3:55 am : link
Due to NIL....many players are staying in school
NYG have no margin for error  
MojoEd : 4/27/2024 4:53 am : link
Hard to make up talent deficit within division with the disparity in picks. PHI haul almost self-perpetuating at this point - they will trade some of these to get 2025 picks.
Angst  
jvm52106 : 4/27/2024 5:06 am : link
Over who they picked and how many is fruitless and a bit dramatic. Drsft is still a crapshoot and team needs, scheme etc are all that matters.

I am sure most teams didn't fret Giants got Ahman Bradshaw late or 49ers got Brock Purdy, Patriots got Tom Brady etc..

Do your due diligence, get the right player, skillet to scheme and team and there you go.

What matters to us is nailing aa many picks as possible.

FYI Giants in some ways have "extra" picks in that we have Josh Ezeudu, Marcus McKethan aa guys who could develop under the new Oline coach. Got look at them as "almost" new guys added here.

Speaking of angst, we can stop with the BS about Jones. Yes, we probably are riding with that dude (or Lock) this year but Giants clearly are looking for future starter. Now, if Gmen redo or alter his contract to create cap space then you can start worrying their long term plans have changed.
RE: Angst  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 5:17 am : link
In comment 16494283 jvm52106 said:
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Over who they picked and how many is fruitless and a bit dramatic. Drsft is still a crapshoot and team needs, scheme etc are all that matters.

I am sure most teams didn't fret Giants got Ahman Bradshaw late or 49ers got Brock Purdy, Patriots got Tom Brady etc..

Do your due diligence, get the right player, skillet to scheme and team and there you go.

What matters to us is nailing aa many picks as possible.

FYI Giants in some ways have "extra" picks in that we have Josh Ezeudu, Marcus McKethan aa guys who could develop under the new Oline coach. Got look at them as "almost" new guys added here.

Speaking of angst, we can stop with the BS about Jones. Yes, we probably are riding with that dude (or Lock) this year but Giants clearly are looking for future starter. Now, if Gmen redo or alter his contract to create cap space then you can start worrying their long term plans have changed.


More swings you have, the more likely you will find gold.

I'd rather have more picks.

You might be signing a different tune when the Eagles find their next star offensive lineman in the 6th round.
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 5:32 am : link
I hate to say it, but the Commanders are having a heck of a draft.
Commanders and Eagles have done well ...Dallas just ok  
George from PA : 4/27/2024 5:51 am : link
Obviously Commanders QB is key

Eagles are just impressive the way they maneuver the draft.....fixed their backfield

But if you count Burns and Nabers.....with the DBs...the Giants did fine.

The Cowboys went back to what they know OL....overall, less impressed
By trading down in 1st round cowboys missed out on Barton  
Rick in Dallas : 4/27/2024 6:06 am : link
Who I think was the target. They pivoted to Guyton.
Love their pick of Beebe a nasty dude.
Cowboys know their OL prospects and do a good job of coaching them up.
Eric  
Sean : 4/27/2024 6:15 am : link
The Eagles are ahead of the NFL when it comes to manipulating the draft. It feels like the Eagles, Niners & Rams are always picking between the 3rd and 5th rounds.

I was hoping Schoen would trade down, but he's clearly following the board. I'd like to see this team use the comp formula to their advantage and regularly have at least 10 picks any year. Philly does.

Having picks allows always being able to trade up for targets when they're within reach.
Eagles  
Mike in NY : 4/27/2024 6:47 am : link
2 of their 4th round picks were from trading down twice in Round 3. They could have stayed put and had Jonah Elliss, but they traded down twice and got Jalyx Hunt.
RE: Commanders and Eagles have done well ...Dallas just ok  
Mike in NY : 4/27/2024 6:56 am : link
In comment 16494289 George from PA said:
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Obviously Commanders QB is key

Eagles are just impressive the way they maneuver the draft.....fixed their backfield

But if you count Burns and Nabers.....with the DBs...the Giants did fine.

The Cowboys went back to what they know OL....overall, less impressed


I happened to like Cowboys draft. Both OL, especially Beebe, were good picks where they were drafted. I also like Kneeland. The Cowboys had some departures at the position and he gives 110% all the time. The LB from Notre Dame went earlier than I would have thought, but not picking until late Round 5 maybe there is something they see in him that they didn’t want to miss out on.
Remember about Philly  
ThreePoints : 4/27/2024 6:59 am : link
Sure they take a lot of swings. They’ve had some huge misses too.

Roseann can manipulate the draft, but they’ve had some real duds on draft day too. There’s a reason they’ve had to rely on an older Fletcher Cox (now retired) and they had major issues on defense last year: their young guys haven’t lived up to expectations.
RE: RE: Angst  
ThreePoints : 4/27/2024 7:00 am : link
In comment 16494284 Eric from BBI said:
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Over who they picked and how many is fruitless and a bit dramatic. Drsft is still a crapshoot and team needs, scheme etc are all that matters.

I am sure most teams didn't fret Giants got Ahman Bradshaw late or 49ers got Brock Purdy, Patriots got Tom Brady etc..

Do your due diligence, get the right player, skillet to scheme and team and there you go.

What matters to us is nailing aa many picks as possible.

FYI Giants in some ways have "extra" picks in that we have Josh Ezeudu, Marcus McKethan aa guys who could develop under the new Oline coach. Got look at them as "almost" new guys added here.

Speaking of angst, we can stop with the BS about Jones. Yes, we probably are riding with that dude (or Lock) this year but Giants clearly are looking for future starter. Now, if Gmen redo or alter his contract to create cap space then you can start worrying their long term plans have changed.



More swings you have, the more likely you will find gold.

I'd rather have more picks.

You might be signing a different tune when the Eagles find their next star offensive lineman in the 6th round.


Are they drafting the offensive line coach too?
Comp picks need to be replaced  
JoeSchoens11 : 4/27/2024 7:05 am : link
with an 8th round.
RE: they have more picks  
56goat : 4/27/2024 7:13 am : link
In comment 16494272 Eric from BBI said:
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today than we have in the entire draft.


As if I needed more reasons to hate the Eagles, but they work the draft a lot better than we do.
Beware what you wish for.....  
George from PA : 4/27/2024 7:43 am : link
How would we be feeling....seeing what the balance of the division is doing

And we have Maye sitting a yeae....with no other players..and no premium picks in 2025.

RE: BTW  
Rjanyg : 4/27/2024 7:45 am : link
In comment 16494286 Eric from BBI said:
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I hate to say it, but the Commanders are having a heck of a draft.


Was saying this yesterday. They are gonna be much better this year.
I think the chances of the Giants going secondary  
M.S. : 4/27/2024 7:47 am : link
with any of their last 3 picks are ZERO. So far, in Joe Schoen's career with the Giants, he has made 21 draft selections. One-third of them (7) have been in the secondary. We've all heard the saying, "It's a passing league," and now I hope Joe Schoen remembers another saying, "It's a big man's game."
RE: RE: BTW  
Sammo85 : 4/27/2024 8:15 am : link
In comment 16494351 Rjanyg said:
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I hate to say it, but the Commanders are having a heck of a draft.



Was saying this yesterday. They are gonna be much better this year.


Not a difficult thing to do. Their roster was horrible and checked out.

I’m on other side. I don’t find their draft all that great. People are getting caught up in names. They needed to fill tons of holes.
I think the second round pick that we used for Brian Burns needs  
Marty in Albany : 4/27/2024 8:36 am : link
to be considered when comparing draft choices. Chances are he will have a bigger impact than Nubin.
RE: BTW  
Spider56 : 4/27/2024 8:49 am : link
In comment 16494286 Eric from BBI said:
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I hate to say it, but the Commanders are having a heck of a draft.


+1. I like all of their picks so far.
People  
Toth029 : 4/27/2024 8:49 am : link
Flipped their lids over the Eagles getting Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean. Or Kelee Ringo. None of those guys have done anything. Jordan Davis has been a disappointment.

They finished 1-6 for a reason.
RE: People  
Sammo85 : 4/27/2024 8:52 am : link
In comment 16494422 Toth029 said:
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Flipped their lids over the Eagles getting Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean. Or Kelee Ringo. None of those guys have done anything. Jordan Davis has been a disappointment.

They finished 1-6 for a reason.


This. Every year people lose their lid over “name” picks.
RE: People  
terz22 : 4/27/2024 8:53 am : link
In comment 16494422 Toth029 said:
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Flipped their lids over the Eagles getting Nolan Smith and Nakobe Dean. Or Kelee Ringo. None of those guys have done anything. Jordan Davis has been a disappointment.

They finished 1-6 for a reason.


Bingo. This happens every year.
RE: RE: Angst  
AcidTest : 4/27/2024 9:30 am : link
In comment 16494284 Eric from BBI said:
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Over who they picked and how many is fruitless and a bit dramatic. Drsft is still a crapshoot and team needs, scheme etc are all that matters.

I am sure most teams didn't fret Giants got Ahman Bradshaw late or 49ers got Brock Purdy, Patriots got Tom Brady etc..

Do your due diligence, get the right player, skillet to scheme and team and there you go.

What matters to us is nailing aa many picks as possible.

FYI Giants in some ways have "extra" picks in that we have Josh Ezeudu, Marcus McKethan aa guys who could develop under the new Oline coach. Got look at them as "almost" new guys added here.

Speaking of angst, we can stop with the BS about Jones. Yes, we probably are riding with that dude (or Lock) this year but Giants clearly are looking for future starter. Now, if Gmen redo or alter his contract to create cap space then you can start worrying their long term plans have changed.



More swings you have, the more likely you will find gold.

I'd rather have more picks.

You might be signing a different tune when the Eagles find their next star offensive lineman in the 6th round.


Agreed. I'd like to get one or two more picks today by trading down, maybe in the fifth round. The draft is such a crapshoot that there are always "gems" to be found on day three. Our roster also has very little depth at most positions.
RE: RE: RE: Angst  
Sammo85 : 4/27/2024 9:43 am : link
In comment 16494473 AcidTest said:
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Over who they picked and how many is fruitless and a bit dramatic. Drsft is still a crapshoot and team needs, scheme etc are all that matters.

I am sure most teams didn't fret Giants got Ahman Bradshaw late or 49ers got Brock Purdy, Patriots got Tom Brady etc..

Do your due diligence, get the right player, skillet to scheme and team and there you go.

What matters to us is nailing aa many picks as possible.

FYI Giants in some ways have "extra" picks in that we have Josh Ezeudu, Marcus McKethan aa guys who could develop under the new Oline coach. Got look at them as "almost" new guys added here.

Speaking of angst, we can stop with the BS about Jones. Yes, we probably are riding with that dude (or Lock) this year but Giants clearly are looking for future starter. Now, if Gmen redo or alter his contract to create cap space then you can start worrying their long term plans have changed.



More swings you have, the more likely you will find gold.

I'd rather have more picks.

You might be signing a different tune when the Eagles find their next star offensive lineman in the 6th round.



Agreed. I'd like to get one or two more picks today by trading down, maybe in the fifth round. The draft is such a crapshoot that there are always "gems" to be found on day three. Our roster also has very little depth at most positions.


This is a really bad depth draft. There’s going to be players with UDFA grades going in Round 5. Our pick in Round 5 is towards end. I’m not trading a high Round 4 pick today.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Angst  
AcidTest : 4/27/2024 9:49 am : link
In comment 16494505 Sammo85 said:
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Over who they picked and how many is fruitless and a bit dramatic. Drsft is still a crapshoot and team needs, scheme etc are all that matters.

I am sure most teams didn't fret Giants got Ahman Bradshaw late or 49ers got Brock Purdy, Patriots got Tom Brady etc..

Do your due diligence, get the right player, skillet to scheme and team and there you go.

What matters to us is nailing aa many picks as possible.

FYI Giants in some ways have "extra" picks in that we have Josh Ezeudu, Marcus McKethan aa guys who could develop under the new Oline coach. Got look at them as "almost" new guys added here.

Speaking of angst, we can stop with the BS about Jones. Yes, we probably are riding with that dude (or Lock) this year but Giants clearly are looking for future starter. Now, if Gmen redo or alter his contract to create cap space then you can start worrying their long term plans have changed.



More swings you have, the more likely you will find gold.

I'd rather have more picks.

You might be signing a different tune when the Eagles find their next star offensive lineman in the 6th round.



Agreed. I'd like to get one or two more picks today by trading down, maybe in the fifth round. The draft is such a crapshoot that there are always "gems" to be found on day three. Our roster also has very little depth at most positions.



This is a really bad depth draft. There’s going to be players with UDFA grades going in Round 5. Our pick in Round 5 is towards end. I’m not trading a high Round 4 pick today.


I probably wouldn't trade down in round four either. I'd target Brandon Dorlus or Mohamed Kamara. This team needs another edge rusher.

Aside from Dorlus and Kamara, there are plenty of other good players left:

Mohamed Kamara
Brandon Dorlus
Troy Franklin
Christian Jones
Ja’Tavion Sanders
T.J. Tampa
Malik Washington
Jaylen Wright
Bucky Irving
DJ James
Hunter Nourzad
Mekhi Wingo
Brenden Rice
Khristian Boyd
Gabe Hall
Audric Estime
Tyrice Knight
Jaden Hicks

I do doubt that Schoen will trade down. I think we'll just stay and pick.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Angst  
Sammo85 : 4/27/2024 9:55 am : link
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Over who they picked and how many is fruitless and a bit dramatic. Drsft is still a crapshoot and team needs, scheme etc are all that matters.

I am sure most teams didn't fret Giants got Ahman Bradshaw late or 49ers got Brock Purdy, Patriots got Tom Brady etc..

Do your due diligence, get the right player, skillet to scheme and team and there you go.

What matters to us is nailing aa many picks as possible.

FYI Giants in some ways have "extra" picks in that we have Josh Ezeudu, Marcus McKethan aa guys who could develop under the new Oline coach. Got look at them as "almost" new guys added here.

Speaking of angst, we can stop with the BS about Jones. Yes, we probably are riding with that dude (or Lock) this year but Giants clearly are looking for future starter. Now, if Gmen redo or alter his contract to create cap space then you can start worrying their long term plans have changed.



More swings you have, the more likely you will find gold.

I'd rather have more picks.

You might be signing a different tune when the Eagles find their next star offensive lineman in the 6th round.



Agreed. I'd like to get one or two more picks today by trading down, maybe in the fifth round. The draft is such a crapshoot that there are always "gems" to be found on day three. Our roster also has very little depth at most positions.



This is a really bad depth draft. There’s going to be players with UDFA grades going in Round 5. Our pick in Round 5 is towards end. I’m not trading a high Round 4 pick today.



I probably wouldn't trade down in round four either. I'd target Brandon Dorlus or Mohamed Kamara. This team needs another edge rusher.

Aside from Dorlus and Kamara, there are plenty of other good players left:

Mohamed Kamara
Brandon Dorlus
Troy Franklin
Christian Jones
Ja’Tavion Sanders
T.J. Tampa
Malik Washington
Jaylen Wright
Bucky Irving
DJ James
Hunter Nourzad
Mekhi Wingo
Brenden Rice
Khristian Boyd
Gabe Hall
Audric Estime
Tyrice Knight
Jaden Hicks

I do doubt that Schoen will trade down. I think we'll just stay and pick.


I think we go back to offense here in 4.
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