Jordan Riley and DJ Davidson

Is probably ahead in the depth chart. He played a ton towards the end of last season. He might be a starter if Phillips or Nunez-Roches get hurt.

After another year
But not yet starter level
They have both shown enough for us to be hopeful
DTs often take a couple of years to gain strength and the recognition skills to make the play

I thought DJ flashed when he got his opportunities.

Does Riley have the range to play DE? I know Dexy was miscast there for years, and they are similar.

In comment 16494394 CoughlinHandsonHips said:

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I thought DJ flashed when he got his opportunities. Does Riley have the range to play DE? I know Dexy was miscast there for years, and they are similar.

One thing about Bowen in Tennessee is that he played a lot of even fronts, and an even higher percentage of sub packages even on first down.

If that continues here, you'll see only 2 big men on most plays and less tradition 3-4 looks that we've been accustomed to under the last few DCs.

respective drafts; DJ at 147 and Riley at 243. Maybe Schabs has an even better find today.

rotational depth; need another playmaker inside

Riley got a TFL on one of his first snaps when he was unblocked . People get carried away when such events occur . As for Davison , it’d been a long time since I’ve seen a Giants DT end up with his cleats in the air more times per snap than this guy.

Good signing off the Bills . Be in the hunt for an addition today .

or two year deal.

In comment 16494432 ColHowPepper said:

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rotational depth; need another playmaker inside

I did not word that well
I think they are good rotational depth now
I’m hopeful they can both develop into starters
Realistically, one of them

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In comment 16494432 ColHowPepper said: Quote: rotational depth; need another playmaker inside I did not word that well I think they are good rotational depth now I’m hopeful they can both develop into starters Realistically, one of them

But, yes, regardless another A’Shawn type vet would be an upgrade and a penetrating DT to play next to Dex in passing downs would be ideal

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or two year deal.

FYI, they already did.

In comment 16494453 RetroJint said:

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Riley got a TFL on one of his first snaps when he was unblocked . People get carried away when such events occur . As for Davison , it’d been a long time since I’ve seen a Giants DT end up with his cleats in the air more times per snap than this guy. Good signing off the Bills . Be in the hunt for an addition today .

I'm meh on Davidson but I thought Riley looked really good for a rookie. I'm actually looking forward to seeing how he has progressed as we get into the season. I think he is going to end up being a bigger part of the rotation.

the 2 guys who fit that still on the board and at the top of BPA are Brandon Dorlus and Mekhi Wingo.

I think the base run stopping DL is likely to start:

A gap = Dex,
B gap = Phillips
over T = Nacho

Davidson and Riley are probably competing for backup A/B gap spots. Not sure Ryder Anderson is someone they still like or camp fodder.

Either way they could use a really athletic 280lb+ player with a quick first step to compete with Nacho. In TEN bowen had Autry and Simmons who fit that role. I don't expect a prospect that good at this point in the draft but there are guys who can play a role.

get good value out of late round picks. You'd like to think one of these two but ideally both can be part of a solid DT rotation with Roches, Jordan Phillips and obviously Dex.

dont think he'd be an option this early though, he is more of a 6th/7th/udfa type.

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Defensive Tackle The Giants arguably have the game’s best defensive tackle in Dexter Lawrence. They also have have four other players who could be a factor in Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Jordan Phillips, Jordon Riley, and D.J. Davidison. But those guys are more run stuffers. The glaring omission inside is pass-rushing, 3-technique defensive tackle. New Defensive Coordinator Shane Bowen relies on his front four to generate pressure. Do not be surprised to see the Giants take a defensive tackle high. It could make a world of difference to the entire defense. As a matter of fact, if the Giants traded down in the first round, I could see defensive tackle be a very early pick.

New York Giants 2024 NFL Draft Needs - ( New Window )

telling Riley that he just had a very good game against Kelce, best center in the NFL. He said now you can either rest on that accomplishment or build on it. (Not an exact quote)

then got hurt on a dirty play by 49ers Center. Needs some healthy time to see what he can develop into.

In comment 16494409 bLiTz 2k said:

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In comment 16494394 CoughlinHandsonHips said: Quote: I thought DJ flashed when he got his opportunities. Does Riley have the range to play DE? I know Dexy was miscast there for years, and they are similar. One thing about Bowen in Tennessee is that he played a lot of even fronts, and an even higher percentage of sub packages even on first down. If that continues here, you'll see only 2 big men on most plays and less tradition 3-4 looks that we've been accustomed to under the last few DCs.

Didn't Wink use a lot of 2 big men looks while here? It seemed like he did.

would have been the perfect guy to fit next to dex and phillips. freaking jets.

In comment 16494724 Eric from BBI said:

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Quote: Defensive Tackle The Giants arguably have the game’s best defensive tackle in Dexter Lawrence. They also have have four other players who could be a factor in Rakeem Nunez-Roches, Jordan Phillips, Jordon Riley, and D.J. Davidison. But those guys are more run stuffers. The glaring omission inside is pass-rushing, 3-technique defensive tackle. New Defensive Coordinator Shane Bowen relies on his front four to generate pressure. Do not be surprised to see the Giants take a defensive tackle high. It could make a world of difference to the entire defense. As a matter of fact, if the Giants traded down in the first round, I could see defensive tackle be a very early pick. New York Giants 2024 NFL Draft Needs - ( New Window )

So what will Bowens plan be now? Will we see Azeez or someone shift inside on passing downs like Tuck?