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Hidden gem? Giants signed a FA rb, 4.27 and 28 bench reps

NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 10:12 am
Dante Miller out of South Carolina who was deemed ineligible for the draft. Seems like an under the radar gem which may make getting a rb obsolete in the draft.

Never heard of this kid.

https://www.si.com/college/southcarolina/football/hard-work-paid-off-for-dante-miller

Turbo  
Gman11 : 4/27/2024 10:15 am : link
I think people forget that the Giants signed this guy.
Miller  
AcidTest : 4/27/2024 10:15 am : link
and the fact that Schoen drafted Gray last year in the fifth round are why I think we may not take a RB today.
Thanks for posting this,  
Section331 : 4/27/2024 10:16 am : link
I was thinking NYG may go RB today, but I would think our RB room is full.
4.27 and 28 reps  
NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 10:17 am : link
Are freak level athleticism. At a min he will be a special teams demon and KR return guy with the new rules this season.
One  
Toth029 : 4/27/2024 10:22 am : link
RB I would be intrigued by is Audric Estime.

Miller is a good project to have, though.
There was a discussion on him several weeks ago when he signed.  
Spider56 : 4/27/2024 10:23 am : link
He actually played very little for SC due to a typical douche eligibility ruling by the NCAA. His best year was 2022 at Columbia... the one in NYC.
If he was in this years draft  
Giantimistic : 4/27/2024 10:25 am : link
And the giants took him in the 7th. Most people would be satisfied.
I still think we go RB  
George : 4/27/2024 10:56 am : link
But focus on a power back like Braelon Allen in the 5th rather than a speedster like Wright in the 4th.
I am actually excited about this guy. He would have started at  
PatersonPlank : 4/27/2024 10:56 am : link
South Carolina. He has all the measurables, he is a good risk
RE: I still think we go RB  
Festina Lente : 4/27/2024 10:59 am : link
In comment 16494649 George said:
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But focus on a power back like Braelon Allen in the 5th rather than a speedster like Wright in the 4th.


Is he the best power back iyo?
NJBlueTuna  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 11:01 am : link
If you read BBI on regular basis, you would have learned about him on April 5th.

Well, I love UDFAs as much as the next guy. He's a UDFA . From Columbia. Who hasn't played much football since 2021.

In other words, he's the most-overhyped UDFA we've signed in memory.
Giants Re-Sign Isaiah Simmons and Sign Dante Miller - ( New Window )
Even more impressive is he has run a 10.2 100 meter dash  
WestCoastGFan : 4/27/2024 11:17 am : link
Tyreek Hill ran a 10.19... Not saying he is going to make it, but that is almost world-class
100% agree  
5BowlsSoon : 4/27/2024 11:21 am : link
We don’t need to waste a pick on a RB…pick one up after the draft if you like, but we only have 3 picks left.

Gray and the secret weapon we recently signed, Miller, are all we need to supplement the very good Singletary. Say no to RBs to draft…

Say hello to more OL, more LB, even more QB.
Still would like to see a RB we could count on  
56goat : 4/27/2024 11:21 am : link
to get 2+ yards on 3rd and 2. Haven't had that in a long time.
I mentioned this  
ZoneXDOA : 4/27/2024 11:26 am : link
In one of the “Take ____ RB” threads.
We just gave Motor a good contract and have Gray and Brightwell behind him with Miller being a potential every down back superstar in the making. (Key word is potential). I’m less comfortable with the TE room. Rather see Milton or a good 2-way TE
RE: I mentioned this  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 11:29 am : link
In comment 16494708 ZoneXDOA said:
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In one of the “Take ____ RB” threads.
We just gave Motor a good contract and have Gray and Brightwell behind him with Miller being a potential every down back superstar in the making. (Key word is potential). I’m less comfortable with the TE room. Rather see Milton or a good 2-way TE


No, he was given the minimum, UDFA deal (which is 3-years for alll UDFAs).. No signing bonus.

He's a longshot. He wasn't signed as anything more than that.

How are you guys not getting this?
Giants need to roll the dice with what they have  
RHPeel : 4/27/2024 11:37 am : link
They have two guys with upside, and an established replacement level guy. Too many other holes. Stick to defense and the lines today, or grab Rice if the grade is high enough.
RE: NJBlueTuna  
NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 11:37 am : link
In comment 16494658 Eric from BBI said:
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If you read BBI on regular basis, you would have learned about him on April 5th.

Well, I love UDFAs as much as the next guy. He's a UDFA . From Columbia. Who hasn't played much football since 2021.

In other words, he's the most-overhyped UDFA we've signed in memory. Giants Re-Sign Isaiah Simmons and Sign Dante Miller - ( New Window )


Someone’s prickly this morning. Btw, it seems he flew under the radar of quite a few people in this thread. Just sayin’ ;)

Also…..  
NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 11:40 am : link
As I mentioned earlier in this thread, with those physical skills, he could be a special teams and KR guy. Rb and pass protection, highly doubtful.

RE: RE: I mentioned this  
River Mike : 4/27/2024 11:42 am : link
In comment 16494713 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16494708 ZoneXDOA said:


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In one of the “Take ____ RB” threads.
We just gave Motor a good contract and have Gray and Brightwell behind him with Miller being a potential every down back superstar in the making. (Key word is potential). I’m less comfortable with the TE room. Rather see Milton or a good 2-way TE


No, he was given the minimum, UDFA deal (which is 3-years for alll UDFAs).. No signing bonus.

He's a longshot. He wasn't signed as anything more than that.

How are you guys not getting this?


Because measurables like that, while certainly no predictor of success, are worth taking note of. Not all that easy to simply ignore as completely meaningless. The likely end to the story is, ok, they are meaningless, but right now ... look at that!
If you read between the lines  
Jersey Heel : 4/27/2024 11:44 am : link
Eric is saying this kid is a future All-Pro. Guaranteed.
RE: RE: I mentioned this  
81_Great_Dane : 4/27/2024 11:44 am : link
In comment 16494713 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16494708 ZoneXDOA said:


Quote:


In one of the “Take ____ RB” threads.
We just gave Motor a good contract and have Gray and Brightwell behind him with Miller being a potential every down back superstar in the making. (Key word is potential). I’m less comfortable with the TE room. Rather see Milton or a good 2-way TE



No, he was given the minimum, UDFA deal (which is 3-years for alll UDFAs).. No signing bonus.

He's a longshot. He wasn't signed as anything more than that.

How are you guys not getting this?

I think the same mindset that leads some fans to imagine that Tommy De Vito is a potential starter in 2024 also leads fans to imagine that this RB is going to help solve the Giants RB problem.

If either guy contributes, it’ll be a great story. De Vito is already a great story. It’s easy to fall in love with the story. In reality, their stories haven’t been written yet. They may pan out or vanish from the NFL without a trace. The latter is much more likely.
RE: If you read between the lines  
NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 11:47 am : link
In comment 16494744 Jersey Heel said:
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Eric is saying this kid is a future All-Pro. Guaranteed.


That was my read as well. He was just using his anti jinx language
River Mike  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 11:48 am : link
We go through this every year. We sign three types of UDFAs (same as other teams). Overachievers who don't have the measurables. Underachievers who don't have the production. Small school fliers.

"Oh my, we stole a wide receiver in Ford-Wheaton!! Look at his size and speed!"

I'm rooting for this kid, but you guys have him making the roster. He's a running back from Columbia who hasn't really played football since 2021.
RE: RE: RE: I mentioned this  
NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 11:49 am : link
In comment 16494745 81_Great_Dane said:
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In comment 16494713 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


In comment 16494708 ZoneXDOA said:


Quote:


In one of the “Take ____ RB” threads.
We just gave Motor a good contract and have Gray and Brightwell behind him with Miller being a potential every down back superstar in the making. (Key word is potential). I’m less comfortable with the TE room. Rather see Milton or a good 2-way TE



No, he was given the minimum, UDFA deal (which is 3-years for alll UDFAs).. No signing bonus.

He's a longshot. He wasn't signed as anything more than that.

How are you guys not getting this?


I think the same mindset that leads some fans to imagine that Tommy De Vito is a potential starter in 2024 also leads fans to imagine that this RB is going to help solve the Giants RB problem.



Could Tommy cutlets throw the ball as far as Uncle Rico? Does Tommy outrun medium sized dogs in the street? No, but Turbo Miller can lol
RE: River Mike  
NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 11:51 am : link
In comment 16494758 Eric from BBI said:
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We go through this every year. We sign three types of UDFAs (same as other teams). Overachievers who don't have the measurables. Underachievers who don't have the production. Small school fliers.

"Oh my, we stole a wide receiver in Ford-Wheaton!! Look at his size and speed!"

I'm rooting for this kid, but you guys have him making the roster. He's a running back from Columbia who hasn't really played football since 2021.


Eric fwiw, I agree with you. Just did a double take on the kids 40yd and bench press bc they are, objectively, insane.
But Eric, think of those fresh legs!! :-)  
GiantBlue : 4/27/2024 11:53 am : link
We hope! We dream! We are hopeless Giants fans! LOL
RE: But Eric, think of those fresh legs!! :-)  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 11:54 am : link
In comment 16494780 GiantBlue said:
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We hope! We dream! We are hopeless Giants fans! LOL


He's a fantastic story. And he's a great kid. I'm rooting for him.

But in no way is he impacting the Giants' decision to take a RB or not.
RE: RE: But Eric, think of those fresh legs!! :-)  
NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 12:06 pm : link
In comment 16494786 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16494780 GiantBlue said:


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We hope! We dream! We are hopeless Giants fans! LOL



He's a fantastic story. And he's a great kid. I'm rooting for him.

But in no way is he impacting the Giants' decision to take a RB or not.


Then it must be they are confident in Gray as RB2 🤪
NJBlueTuna  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 12:10 pm : link
Gray is definitely part of the picture. They drafted him for a reason.

But the draft isn't over. If value matches, they'll take a RB today. If it doesn't, they may still add a veteran FA.
RE: RE: I mentioned this  
bigbluewillrise : 4/27/2024 12:13 pm : link
In comment 16494713 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16494708 ZoneXDOA said:


Quote:


In one of the “Take ____ RB” threads.
We just gave Motor a good contract and have Gray and Brightwell behind him with Miller being a potential every down back superstar in the making. (Key word is potential). I’m less comfortable with the TE room. Rather see Milton or a good 2-way TE



No, he was given the minimum, UDFA deal (which is 3-years for alll UDFAs).. No signing bonus.

He's a longshot. He wasn't signed as anything more than that.

How are you guys not getting this?


i would say he is equivalent to a 6th/7th round pick.

if we have a chance to draft a good RB in 4th/5th - take that.
I could be wrong  
Jaenyg : 4/27/2024 12:15 pm : link
And I’m no scout, but I feel I saw enough of Eric Gray to tell me he ain’t for this league.

I was a fan of the pick like everyone else but sometimes, once you get the kid into the actual NFL program, you can just see that they don’t have it.

bigbluewillrise  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 12:17 pm : link
why would a back who hardly touched the ball at South Carolina be worth a 6th round draft pick?
RE: bigbluewillrise  
bigbluewillrise : 4/27/2024 12:19 pm : link
In comment 16494885 Eric from BBI said:
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why would a back who hardly touched the ball at South Carolina be worth a 6th round draft pick?


athletic profiles matter.
4.2 speed is special. rare.
that gets you drafted in 7th rounds flyers.
I am surprised  
NJBlueTuna : 4/27/2024 12:52 pm : link
Look, I’m not a scout, and even though the kid has only played a few years of football at Ivy Columbia, he runs a 4.2 and did 28 bench reps at his pro day. That is King of Freaks type athleticism.

He can potentially be a special teams demon, including at KR with the new rules this year.
RE: NJBlueTuna  
BleedBlue46 : 4/27/2024 1:57 pm : link
In comment 16494849 Eric from BBI said:
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Gray is definitely part of the picture. They drafted him for a reason.

But the draft isn't over. If value matches, they'll take a RB today. If it doesn't, they may still add a veteran FA.


Gray is slept on here
RE: RE: bigbluewillrise  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 1:58 pm : link
In comment 16494893 bigbluewillrise said:
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In comment 16494885 Eric from BBI said:


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why would a back who hardly touched the ball at South Carolina be worth a 6th round draft pick?



athletic profiles matter.
4.2 speed is special. rare.
that gets you drafted in 7th rounds flyers.


So does not playing in a serious college program. Or not playing football in two full seasons.
RE: There was a discussion on him several weeks ago when he signed.  
k2tampa : 4/27/2024 2:57 pm : link
In comment 16494586 Spider56 said:
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He actually played very little for SC due to a typical douche eligibility ruling by the NCAA. His best year was 2022 at Columbia... the one in NYC.


The problem was SC's compliance people read the rule wrong. Then the kid decided to bet the NCAA would ignore that and rule in his favor even though the rules said the opposite.
RE: RE: I mentioned this  
k2tampa : 4/27/2024 3:06 pm : link
In comment 16494713 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 16494708 ZoneXDOA said:


Quote:


In one of the “Take ____ RB” threads.
We just gave Motor a good contract and have Gray and Brightwell behind him with Miller being a potential every down back superstar in the making. (Key word is potential). I’m less comfortable with the TE room. Rather see Milton or a good 2-way TE



No, he was given the minimum, UDFA deal (which is 3-years for alll UDFAs).. No signing bonus.

He's a longshot. He wasn't signed as anything more than that.

How are you guys not getting this?


'Motor' is Singletary. Miller is 'Turbo'.
k2tampa  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 3:16 pm : link
My bad... confused the two players.
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