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New York Giants 5th Round Selection: RB Tyrone Tracy

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 3:28 pm
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Seems  
AcidTest : 4/27/2024 3:42 pm : link
like a great pick. Fantastic athleticism with a lot of receiving skills that will be valuable as he comes out of the backfield. He also seems very shifty and strong, and can break a lot of tackles.
RE: Great Pick  
Pete in VA : 4/27/2024 3:43 pm : link
In comment 16495691 tomdif21 said:
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Great video on this kid. Tyrone Tracy - ( New Window )


This is a must watch. The football metrics (YPC, YAC, etc.) are absolutely top notch. And pass catching and kick returning. This is a fantastic pick!
Solid pick  
AROCK1000 : 4/27/2024 3:45 pm : link
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Scouts uncovered a good one here…..  
Simms11 : 4/27/2024 3:45 pm : link
Sneaky good! Looks like some nice camp competition now. He’ll most likely come in as #2 or 3 back and KR.
RE: Love this pick  
Rave7 : 4/27/2024 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16495679 Sy'56 said:
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One of the most interesting players in the draft


I also like the pick. Receiving ability and pass protection, KR, can be good 3rd down back.
RE: Love this pick  
gersh : 4/27/2024 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16495679 Sy'56 said:
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One of the most interesting players in the draft

Ok,that’s all I needed to hear!
Reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw  
PatersonPlank : 4/27/2024 3:47 pm : link
Man I hope I'm right
Check that vertical out  
cosmicj : 4/27/2024 3:47 pm : link
Elite athletic traits. Very interested pick.
Man...  
Amtoft : 4/27/2024 3:47 pm : link
Some of his highlights are crazy... tough runner that looks elusive. I like it.
RE: Reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw  
Amtoft : 4/27/2024 3:48 pm : link
In comment 16495736 PatersonPlank said:
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Man I hope I'm right


That is a good comp... that is exactly what he looks like when running
age is a non factor  
kelly : 4/27/2024 3:49 pm : link
doesn't have alot of wear since he only played RB one year.

In addition you usually only get 4-5 years of good production out of a back. So his age is irrelevant.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/27/2024 3:49 pm : link
David Syvertsen
@Ourlads_Sy
166) NYG: Tyrone Tracy Jr. - RB/Purdue

Former WR at Iowa (was second leading receiver to Ihmir Smith Marsette at one time) that made the move to RB and finished with a huge year. Finished 4th in country in yards after contact per rush. Elite quickness and burst - still learning position but has a skill set in the passing game very few can match. Love the chance here - huge ceiling.
I like it...  
Capt. Don : 4/27/2024 3:50 pm : link
Watching highlights, his running style reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw.
With  
Toth029 : 4/27/2024 3:50 pm : link
Tracy having experience returning kicks, it opens the door for that position with a huge list. Polar opposite from last year.
this feels like another solid single or double  
Eric on Li : 4/27/2024 3:51 pm : link
maybe im under estimating him but it seems like he can a kevin faulk/shane vereen type of change of pace player with ST value. seems like he has more talent than brightwell and more explosiveness than gray.

not sure anyone else in the draft had:

21+ bench reps
40+ vertical
sub-7 3 cone

that's the athletic package of an elite TE/RB/S/LB.

He has 3rd down back written all over him  
cosmicj : 4/27/2024 3:51 pm : link
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From his highlights  
JFIB : 4/27/2024 3:51 pm : link
I get the impression he has very good vision and looks to read his blocks well. He’s shifty and makes the most out of a small crease. He also appears tough to bring down. Doesn’t go down easily which is something we will appreciate after watching Barkley this past year.
RE: RE: Reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw  
Eric on Li : 4/27/2024 3:52 pm : link
In comment 16495743 Amtoft said:
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Man I hope I'm right



That is a good comp... that is exactly what he looks like when running


bradshaw looked a lot more explosive - he was shot out of a cannon. tracy doesnt look as explosive as his testing to me in the highlights.
I like his versatility. We got good value on this pick. He should be  
Ira : 4/27/2024 3:52 pm : link
able to contribute.
Can be used as a returner  
cjac : 4/27/2024 3:53 pm : link
On punts and kickoffs as well
RE: RE: RE: Reminds me of Ahmad Bradshaw  
Amtoft : 4/27/2024 3:53 pm : link
In comment 16495763 Eric on Li said:
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Man I hope I'm right



That is a good comp... that is exactly what he looks like when running



bradshaw looked a lot more explosive - he was shot out of a cannon. tracy doesnt look as explosive as his testing to me in the highlights.


I think we are watching different Highlights then. He looks explosive to me.
RE: Great Pick  
5BowlsSoon : 4/27/2024 3:56 pm : link
In comment 16495691 tomdif21 said:
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Great video on this kid. Tyrone Tracy - ( New Window )


Wow….what a great video…those 2 guys loved him immensely. Only one year at the position…I’m excited….I now can see why Sy loves him. THANKS JOE SCHOEN
The little bit of tape he has..  
Capisce : 4/27/2024 3:56 pm : link
reminds me a bit of Tiki.
amtoft - bradshaw at marshall had multiple 200+ yard games  
Eric on Li : 4/27/2024 3:57 pm : link
a bunch of 50+ yard runs. it was just big play after big play running away from people like the run he had against buffalo.
Waldman has him as the 22nd RB-comp to Kenyan Drake  
Darwinian : 4/27/2024 3:57 pm : link
RSP Ranking: RB22

Height/Weight: 5’11”/209 School: Purdue/Iowa

Comparison Spectrum: Kenyan Drake - - X

Depth of Talent Score: 75.6 = Contributor: Starter execution in a limited role; diminishing returns beyond that scope.
Tracy is on the cusp of the Reserve Tier: Contributor with limitations in scope and execution.

The Elevator Pitch: Tracy spent four years as a wide receiver and return specialist at Iowa. Watch his Iowa tape and you see a wealth of trapping targets to his body and fighting the football, which is among the reasons why he’s more intriguing as a running back.

Tracy is an elusive runner who layers movements in the open field to avoid defenders. He gets his feet and knees high enough to get over low shots and he can do this while making elusive moves against pursuit.

Tracy has an excellent stiff-arm that he can deliver with reach and power. He uses his pads well when he prepares for contact, but he can improve his overall body lean when he runs between the tackles.

Tracy is a promising athlete with elite change of direction quickness that he applies well as a running back but may have room to get even better as he becomes more adept as a decision maker between the tackles. Tracy can make an early impact in the D’Andre Swift-Kenyan Drake role as a player earning the ball in open space or handed the ball on plays between the tackles that are designed to simulate open space such as draws and toss plays.

A short-term trap-door that could undermine success in this role could be ball security because most of his touches came as a receiver and he has careless moments with ball security between the tackles. If he can continue to learn the position quickly, he could become a productive committee option by the end of his first contract.
It might just  
Jon In NYC : 4/27/2024 3:58 pm : link
be the black and gold, but he reminds me of a poor man's Alvin Kamara. Great pass catcher, great balance, finishes through contact despite not being a traditional power back size.
Boiler Up!!!  
ZogZerg : 4/27/2024 4:00 pm : link
Just remember, Purdue's OL was not good.
When was last time Sy' said he 'loved' a Giants' pick?  
ColHowPepper : 4/27/2024 4:00 pm : link
): ??
Cosell:
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I could see him fitting well into an NFL offense that features the back in the passing game, especially with formation versatility.
What Barkley was supposed to be? a bit of /s/
RE: amtoft - bradshaw at marshall had multiple 200+ yard games  
Amtoft : 4/27/2024 4:01 pm : link
In comment 16495780 Eric on Li said:
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a bunch of 50+ yard runs. it was just big play after big play running away from people like the run he had against buffalo.


He had way more carries... Tracy averaged 6.3 yards a carry at Purdue in the Big Ten. He had under 2 yards before first contact and averaged that. He made big plays and runs just like Bradshaw to me. When you watch them the way he ducks, sidesteps, makes contact... looks Bradshaw to me the way he would get extra yards.
After watching some highlights  
RomanWH : 4/27/2024 4:02 pm : link
I think a decent comp for him would be Percy Harvin from his Florida Gator days, just without the extra gear that Percy had.

Tracy has the same versatility and slippery-ness that Harvin did.


Percy Harvin at Florida - ( New Window )
You have to watch this video  
5BowlsSoon : 4/27/2024 4:03 pm : link
You absolutely have to. So much info and you will be amazed at what we have in this kid. Please see it….it was previously posted above…
Must see video - ( New Window )
RE: RE: amtoft - bradshaw at marshall had multiple 200+ yard games  
Eric on Li : 4/27/2024 4:05 pm : link
In comment 16495792 Amtoft said:
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a bunch of 50+ yard runs. it was just big play after big play running away from people like the run he had against buffalo.



He had way more carries... Tracy averaged 6.3 yards a carry at Purdue in the Big Ten. He had under 2 yards before first contact and averaged that. He made big plays and runs just like Bradshaw to me. When you watch them the way he ducks, sidesteps, makes contact... looks Bradshaw to me the way he would get extra yards.


i see similarities too but my memory of bradshaws highlights for first time it was like "holy crap how did this guy fall". yes some of that was more reps against lower level comp.
cosell a big fan  
Eric on Li : 4/27/2024 4:06 pm : link
The 33rd Team
@The33rdTeamFB
Tyrone Tracy Jr. is a perfect addition to the Giants 🗽

His scouting report by
@gregcosell
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STRENGTHS:

- Good-sized back with natural quickness and loose hips who shows excellent short-area burst and elusiveness.

- Shows excellent patience and vision in gap-scheme run game tempo-ing his path to read offensive line pull and defenses.

- Explosive short-area burst through the first level of defense with balance and body control to re-accelerate.

- Can stop and start and re-accelerate both inside and on the edge. Doesn't slow down or lose stride on his cuts.

- Effective in both zone and gap scheme run games showing one-cut downhill burst, patience and tempo.

- Accelerating burst and speed to get to the edge and outflank the defense. Can outrun inside-out pursuit.

- Outstanding shiftiness and elusiveness in confined space to make defenders miss and create extra yardage.

- High-level one-cut downhill ability with sudden change of direction. Works through small creases at first level.

- Makes defenders miss in different ways with multiple moves: lateral quickness, spins, physicality and speed.

- Brings pass-receiving dimension out of the backfield with the ability to run intermediate and vertical routes.

- Shows willingness and tenacity to step up and pass protect vs. blitzing second- and third-level defenders.

WEAKNESSES:

- Still learning the running back position given his college background as a receiver. Lacks needed experience.

- At times, will look for the bigger play when he needs to attack the line of scrimmage and get the hard yards. Is that lack of experience?

- Will need more work in the zone-run game where he has to read blocks, gap fluidity and defensive flow.

- Doesn't possess home-run speed — won't run away from the defense when he gets past the third level.

BOTTOM LINE:

"Tracy will only get better as a runner with more experience, but he showed strong traits with his natural quickness and burst and his elusiveness making defenders miss in multiple ways. Perhaps most impressively, he showed more than functional physicality and competitive toughness to finish runs. Overall, Tracy is one of my favorite backs to watch, and I believe he is an ascending talent. I'm looking forward to seeing who drafts him and how he's deployed."
RE: He has 3rd down back written all over him  
AcidTest : 4/27/2024 4:07 pm : link
In comment 16495758 cosmicj said:
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Yup.
Sy likes him  
Go Giants : 4/27/2024 4:08 pm : link
So so do I. It’s great to see the giants not wasting picks on fringe guys. It looks like the Giants have improved this off season. OL with fa, and coach, WR, and defensive back field and perhaps specials.
We haven't had a bona fide  
George : 4/27/2024 4:09 pm : link
3rd down back in a long time. He looks like he fits the bill - as a runner, receiver, and pass protector.

I think the Giants are making draft choices by thinking about role playing much more intentionally than the last couple of regimes did. It's a Parcells approach to offensive personnel.
Fun discussion on Tyrone  
prolatespheroid : 4/27/2024 4:11 pm : link
as a sleeper pick...
Link - ( New Window )
Like him  
uconngiant : 4/27/2024 4:12 pm : link
Good speed and can catch the ball out of the backfield plus he can return kicks.

RE: RE: amtoft - bradshaw at marshall had multiple 200+ yard games  
PatersonPlank : 4/27/2024 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16495792 Amtoft said:
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a bunch of 50+ yard runs. it was just big play after big play running away from people like the run he had against buffalo.



He had way more carries... Tracy averaged 6.3 yards a carry at Purdue in the Big Ten. He had under 2 yards before first contact and averaged that. He made big plays and runs just like Bradshaw to me. When you watch them the way he ducks, sidesteps, makes contact... looks Bradshaw to me the way he would get extra yards.


Like Bradshaw, Tracy pops through the hole and has a lot of muscle so is tough to tackle, sort of a bowling ball guy. Also like Bradshaw he doesn't have break away speed so he gets caught.
RE: Great Pick  
bwitz : 4/27/2024 4:17 pm : link
In comment 16495691 tomdif21 said:
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Great video on this kid. Tyrone Tracy - ( New Window )


That’s some very good, in depth analysis there. Must watch.
From The Athletic  
M.S. : 4/27/2024 4:19 pm : link
STRENGTHS: Well-built athlete with above-average speed … shifty cutting skills to make steep backside cuts and quickly clear the first wave (averaged 4.44 yards after contact in 2023) … abruptly adjusts his pacing to shake defenders in space … has enough run strength to drive through uncommitted tackles … receiver background shows when he is targeted out of the backfield … eager to body up defenders in pass pro and scans quickly to pick up blitzes … only one career fumble (none in 2023)… ranked second in the Big Ten in kick-return yardage in 2023, including a 98-yard touchdown return (17/428/1) … also stood out on kick and punt coverages (six special-teams tackles) … led the team with nine total touchdowns in 2023 (eight rushing, one kick return).

WEAKNESSES: Inconsistent anticipating run lanes and eyes get too big for his appetite … needs to be more efficient pressing and setting up blocks … overly patient on some runs, too impatient on others … momentum occasionally stalls out of his jump cuts and late to hit the gas … slight hip tightness limits his fluidity out in space … guilty of running before securing catches and had a pair of drops (and a few bobbles) on his 2023 tape … willing as a pass blocker but needs to sharpen his technique … missed the Ohio State game in October 2023 because of injury … will turn 25 during his rookie season … spent only one of six college seasons as a running back.

SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Purdue, Tracy played a “WideBack” position in offensive coordinator Graham Harrell’s scheme, which utilized his skills as both a running back and wide receiver. After four seasons as a receiver at Iowa, his versatility as ball carrier blossomed in West Lafayette, and in 2023 he led the Big Ten in rushing yards per carry (6.34). Displaying natural instincts with the ball in his hands, Tracy runs with the dynamic agility and elusiveness to slip tackles from different angles (21.9 percent of his carries in 2023 resulted in a 10-plus-yard run, which ranked top five in the FBS). However, his inexperience at running back shows in his sporadic tendencies when choosing run lanes. Overall, Tracy needs to improve his decision-making at the line of scrimmage, but he can create with his quick lateral cuts and contact balance — and he can stay on the field on passing downs. He is a multi-dimensional threat as a rusher, receiver and special teamer, which increases his chances of commanding an NFL roster spot.

GRADE: 4th Round
Tracy has a low center of gravity  
cosmicj : 4/27/2024 4:20 pm : link
Watching the highlights, it looks to me like has good ability to read blocks. His lateral quickness is NFL quality. Looking forward to seeing him play.
Maurice Jones-Drew loves the Tyrone pick  
Four Aces : 4/27/2024 4:44 pm : link
Loves his tape and says he can run a full route tree and be a weapon. And adds value as a kick returner.
A Meggett  
upnyg : 4/27/2024 5:13 pm : link
comp, maybe...hes pretty shifty in the hole once he gets the ball
What an interesting prospect  
Heisenberg : 4/27/2024 5:21 pm : link
We drafted a WR who started as a RB and now did the reverse
I suggest watching this  
Breeze_94 : 4/27/2024 5:46 pm : link
These guys are RAVING about Tracy. He got comp’d to Tony Pollard, David Johnson, and Cordarelle Patterson.

One thing that cooled me off of Tracy was the age - he’ll turn 25 during the season. But, if you think about it, giving a RB a second contract is usually a bad investment. Giants will get him for his age 25, 26, 27, 28 seasons. If he’s great, they tag him for his age 29 season. Very low tread too, so this isn’t your typical 25 y/o RB.

Tyrone Tracy breakdown - ( New Window )
If you haven't read Sy's entire predraft review it's unbelievable  
Blue21 : 4/27/2024 6:28 pm : link
How when he wrote it he linked what a great pick it would be for the Giants
If he can quickly read the LOS, hit the hole and plow through it,  
GeofromNJ : 4/27/2024 7:19 pm : link
gaining 4-5 yards, I will be very happy. Barkley had a tendency to dance around in the backfield looking for the home run opening and often not finding it.
RE:5Bowls video  
Rod in St Cloud : 4/27/2024 8:33 pm : link
That was an extremely impressive video by underdog fantasy. What I find astounding was the player comps offered here, including Antonio Gibson, Corderelle Patterson and David Johnson. I never heard of this player, so thanks for sharing that video. It was enlightening and calling this guy the best sleeper pick of the draft. After losing Barkley, and watching all the RBs scooped up in front of us, when I saw this guy's name, I was quite disappointed, wondering why we even bothered with this guy I had never heard of. This video really raised my spirits.
RE: The little bit of tape he has..  
Del Shofner : 4/27/2024 8:45 pm : link
In comment 16495778 Capisce said:
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reminds me a bit of Tiki.


That came to my mind too. Good receiver, and as a runner follows his blocks for a bit then shoots through a gap.
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