Giants have not drafted a QB since Dan Jones 2019

This has been discussed ad naseum and analyzed to the point of distraction.

Ye of little faith man! Year six is when it all comes together. & if not, 2026. 2027. 2028. 2029. 2030. 2031. 2032.

Crazy and it’s just not about Jones. Even teams with established starters will draft WB’s looking to obtain a cheap backup

Throw a flier on someone late at minimum. The Pats drafted Maye and Milton. The Packers drafted Pratt. It's an archaic way of thinking.

In comment 16498647 Sean said:

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Throw a flier on someone late at minimum. The Pats drafted Maye and Milton. The Packers drafted Pratt. It's an archaic way of thinking.

I agree. I think they want to go all in on someone they feel fits like a glove. Just their philosophy. Why else?

We probably go all in on a QB next year, depending on Jones/Lock/Devito.

Is there really a need to draft anymore?

In comment 16498649 AlwaysASpiral said:

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In comment 16498647 Sean said: Quote: Throw a flier on someone late at minimum. The Pats drafted Maye and Milton. The Packers drafted Pratt. It's an archaic way of thinking. I agree. I think they want to go all in on someone they feel fits like a glove. Just their philosophy. Why else? We probably go all in on a QB next year, depending on Jones/Lock/Devito.

It also tells me the next QB will get a minimum of 4-5 years to show something. It creates little room for error.

The Giants are an archaic organization. & an organization that still plays favorites with people who don't deserve some status. But please tell me more about 'no scholarships' & all that horseshit.

Do they count? Or must it be a drafted player, because you know, the difference between a 6th or 7th round pick and a UDFA is huge..

Do tell.

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Throw a flier on someone late at minimum. The Pats drafted Maye and Milton. The Packers drafted Pratt. It's an archaic way of thinking.

Definitely agree that the Giants should have drafted at least one (if not more) QBs since taking Daniel Jones in 2019! Seems a little crazy. As to why they didn't take a flier on one this past week, maybe Joe Schoen felt that with only 6 picks -- and with so many holes to fill -- he just couldn't afford that QB flier.

Get lost.

The only other QBs drafted since Eli (technically we drafted Rivers) were:

2019 1 Daniel Jones 6 QB
2018 4 Kyle Lauletta 108 QB
2017 3 Davis Webb 87 QB
2013 4 Ryan Nassib 110 QB
2009 5 Rhett Bomar 151 QB
2008 6 Andre Woodson 198 QB

Is it any wonder we're been in QB Hell for such a long time?

The usual line is that they shouldn’t waste a pick on a late round QB. How many people complained about all the mid-round picks when we had Eli. Seems to me that most agreed that it was a wasted pick and also that the 3rd qb was a wasted roster spot. Is there a shift happened or just an anti-Jones agenda.

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The only other QBs drafted since Eli (technically we drafted Rivers) were: 2019 1 Daniel Jones 6 QB 2018 4 Kyle Lauletta 108 QB 2017 3 Davis Webb 87 QB 2013 4 Ryan Nassib 110 QB 2009 5 Rhett Bomar 151 QB 2008 6 Andre Woodson 198 QB Is it any wonder we're been in QB Hell for such a long time?

No, please tell me. Just what does that list prove. To me, it says drafting a QB either day 2 or late rarely helps and a waste of a pick.
And, what has that got to do with Schoen. That list is mostly from 2 GMs ago even 3 GMs ago.

1 - Any QB drafted outside the first round is no more than a gamble. Yeah, a few have hit, but the rate is insanely low

2 - Our roster has sucked this whole time, we haven't had the luxury to use a pick to gamble on a player

In comment 16498696 section125 said:

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In comment 16498690 56goat said: Quote: The only other QBs drafted since Eli (technically we drafted Rivers) were: 2019 1 Daniel Jones 6 QB 2018 4 Kyle Lauletta 108 QB 2017 3 Davis Webb 87 QB 2013 4 Ryan Nassib 110 QB 2009 5 Rhett Bomar 151 QB 2008 6 Andre Woodson 198 QB Is it any wonder we're been in QB Hell for such a long time? No, please tell me. Just what does that list prove. To me, it says drafting a QB either day 2 or late rarely helps and a waste of a pick. And, what has that got to do with Schoen. That list is mostly from 2 GMs ago even 3 GMs ago.

What it tells us is the Giants have only drafted QB lottery tickets in the last 20 years. The odds of getting a franchise QB, let alone a starting QB, that way are slim.

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Do they count? Or must it be a drafted player, because you know, the difference between a 6th or 7th round pick and a UDFA is huge..

The gap actually is

is to take shots at Jones. The Producer lives on. What a douche.

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The only other QBs drafted since Eli (technically we drafted Rivers) were: 2019 1 Daniel Jones 6 QB 2018 4 Kyle Lauletta 108 QB 2017 3 Davis Webb 87 QB 2013 4 Ryan Nassib 110 QB 2009 5 Rhett Bomar 151 QB 2008 6 Andre Woodson 198 QB Is it any wonder we're been in QB Hell for such a long time?

yep and it only took 5 years for one of those to be a competent backup

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The only other QBs drafted since Eli (technically we drafted Rivers) were: 2019 1 Daniel Jones 6 QB 2018 4 Kyle Lauletta 108 QB 2017 3 Davis Webb 87 QB 2013 4 Ryan Nassib 110 QB 2009 5 Rhett Bomar 151 QB 2008 6 Andre Woodson 198 QB Is it any wonder we're been in QB Hell for such a long time?

Seems what this proves is mid/late round QBs are a waste of a pick.

Like many fans here do - are you getting Josh Allen or Josh Rosen? If that is how you view the outcomes, you only do it when you have to, or when everyone in the building sees it the same.

In comment 16498719 ajr2456 said:

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In comment 16498658 section125 said: Quote: Do they count? Or must it be a drafted player, because you know, the difference between a 6th or 7th round pick and a UDFA is huge.. The gap actually is

Not really..rather small.

We’re anywhere close to Pratt?

You wouldn't know of a Producer from Manhattan would you?

you need more of those picks to land a good one. They simply don’t draft qb enough.

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You wouldn't know of a Producer from Manhattan would you?

That’s not him. He’s back under another ID. Think of the guy who came up with evolution.

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Throw a flier on someone late at minimum. The Pats drafted Maye and Milton. The Packers drafted Pratt. It's an archaic way of thinking.

As team mouth piece Ralph V pointed out, a qb competition would make Daniel feel uncomfortable. It's utter garbage

The question is flawed because it assumes drafting a QB is the way to address the position but the Giants did address the position by signing a free agent QB on a one year deal.

Perhaps when they realized they couldn't obtain the cream of the crop prospects they decided not to get into a multi year relationship with a lesser guy who they had to invest in.

You need backup QBs as well. It's much cheaper paying a 3rd or 4th round QB then bringing in say someone like TT or Lock at 5-6m in a year. Tommy Cutlets was UDFA who at times ran the offense better then our 5th year mistake. Why not take a chance at a QB in the draft ?

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is to take shots at Jones. The Producer lives on. What a douche.

I'm a douche for having a problem with a bad QB now going into year 6 for my favorite team?? Your obviously a DJ fanboy, I'm surprised you people still exist honestly

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In comment 16498732 Spider56 said: Quote: is to take shots at Jones. The Producer lives on. What a douche. I'm a douche for having a problem with a bad QB now going into year 6 for my favorite team?? Your obviously a DJ fanboy, I'm surprised you people still exist honestly

Well your clearly disturbed as calling someone a fanboy is about as pathetic as they come. So you definitely have had another handle before. Wont be long before you are outed.

Ryan Nasib,Rhett Bomer, and Jessie Palmer

In comment 16498995 rnargi said:

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Ryan Nasib,Rhett Bomer, and Jessie Palmer

Fair, but I wonder how their careers would have looked at they gotten as many chances as Dan Jones

In comment 16498642 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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Ye of little faith man! Year six is when it all comes together. & if not, 2026. 2027. 2028. 2029. 2030. 2031. 2032.

It came together in 2022 whether you want to acknowledge this or not. It can come together again in 2024.

In comment 16499162 djm said:

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In comment 16498642 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: Ye of little faith man! Year six is when it all comes together. & if not, 2026. 2027. 2028. 2029. 2030. 2031. 2032. It came together in 2022 whether you want to acknowledge this or not. It can come together again in 2024.

The Giants were 4th in the NFL in rushing TDs, 24th in passing TDs in 2022.

If the departure of Barkley and the injuries to Jones don't dampen the run game, sure it's possible.

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Is there really a need to draft anymore?

49ers Had Grappolo, spent a fortune to get Lance, and then took Brock Purdy in the 7th as a flyer for a backup. You have to take swings at QB whether that is for backups or possible starters. It just makes QB rooms better.

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In comment 16498690 56goat said: Quote: The only other QBs drafted since Eli (technically we drafted Rivers) were: 2019 1 Daniel Jones 6 QB 2018 4 Kyle Lauletta 108 QB 2017 3 Davis Webb 87 QB 2013 4 Ryan Nassib 110 QB 2009 5 Rhett Bomar 151 QB 2008 6 Andre Woodson 198 QB Is it any wonder we're been in QB Hell for such a long time? No, please tell me. Just what does that list prove. To me, it says drafting a QB either day 2 or late rarely helps and a waste of a pick. And, what has that got to do with Schoen. That list is mostly from 2 GMs ago even 3 GMs ago.

And, all of them other than Jones, were never intended or expected to ever see the field.

and a roster spot. You have to get incredibly lucky to get anything back from doing it.

I've been watching the GIANTS since 1955 - that's right, 19fucking55. Seventy years.

The only worthwhile non-first-round QB they EVER picked in ALL those 70 years was Jeff Hostetler in the 3rd.

you simply cannot look at the giants track record since 2008 and call the late round flyer theory bs. all their drafts have been questionable
last 15’years.

it worked with brady in 2000. worked with purdy more recently. jalen hurts was drafted in second round when the eagles had wentz who was still viewed as a legit starter. The pats found brissett and garapolo this way. both are reasonable fill ins and bridge players. Packers had hasslebeck in their system as a late round pick. Not to mention joe montana was a third rounder.

the old model was draft a top 10 qb, and everything else is worthless. now, it’s still more likely you get a stud there of course, but all or nothing thinking hurts more today especially with vet contracts and cap ramifications.

The year 2022 when everyone said Jones really did nothing because he only had 15 TDs, well he had Darius Slayton, Richie James, and Isaiah Hodgins at receiver.

Perhaps maybe having a 6th overall pick, Wan’Dale and Hyatt out there and better OL play will up his TD count.

it should. and it better. he simply is under productive in td tosses and overall tds over course of his career. should also be looking to upgrade him because he will possibly throw for 20-25 tds with this crew but a stud will throw more and score more. How and when they do this is of course the hard part. But expecting a major breakout in year 6 won’t happen. serviceable midpack qb when everything is ok around him. They should explore upgrading him.