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NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May)

DanMetroMan : 5/1/2024 12:16 pm
.@SyracuseMets Joey Lucchesi
@RumblePoniesBB (game 1) Luis Moreno
@RumblePoniesBB (game 2) Troy Miller
@BKCyclones Felipe De La Cruz
@stluciemets Austin Troesser (quietest strong start in the organization. 13.2 innings 19 k's 2.63 era)

AAA
Acuna 1-6, 2B
Ritter 3-4, BB
Iglesias 2-5, 2 HR
Bannon 1-4, HR, 2 BB
Hamel 4.1 7 hits 4 runs 2 walks 3 k’s
Jay 2.2 innings 2 hits 0 runs 1 walk 0 k’s

BK
Lara 2-4, BB, SB, K
Clifford 2-4, BB, 2 k’s
Lorusso 2-3, 2B, 3B, BB, SB (.943 OPS)
McLean 0-3 BB, 3 k’s
Orellana 4.1 innings 3 hits 0 runs 1 walk 3 k’s (1.02 era!)
Ventura 3.2 innings 3 hits 0 runs 0 walks 5 k’s (I suspect he’s in Bing soonish)

St. Lucie
Mosquera 2-5, K
Houck 1-5, BB, 2 k’s
Suero 2-4, HR, BB, SB (remains my *super sleeper*. OPS up to .974, 8 game hit streak)
Baro (at 3B, season debut) 1-3, BB, error
Morabito 2-3, BB, K (hitting .397! Promote Nick!)
Baez 1-5
Hudepohl 5 innings hits 0 runs 2 walks 8 k’s
Loper 2 innings 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 2 k’s
Alfonseca 1 perfect
Ovalles 1 perfect 1 k


Marco Vargas is injured, unclear if it's the same issue that has limited him to 3 games and a previous IL stint


-Infielder/centerfielder Jett Williams, the Mets’ top prospect, went on the seven-day injured list with Double-A Binghamton because of a right wrist issue.

After he jammed it, sat out for a week and didn’t feel well enough to play, the Mets opted to officially sideline him. He might get a cortisone injection, and the Mets are inclined to take his return very slowly, given his importance to the organization.

Before getting hurt, Williams was off to a slow start at the plate, batting .180 with a .668 OPS. He also played several games at second base, his first professional exposure to that position, his potential eventual defensive home.


Saul Garcia (received a nice report from @BaseballAmerica before the season) has been activated from the 7 day IL. Garcia has stuck out 7 over 3.2 innings of work for @stluciemets. He figures to join @BKCyclones shortly
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 1:49 pm : link
@FCLMets J-Rod 2-3, HR, 2b (OPS up to 1.075, tied for the FCL league lead in hits), Branny 1-3, Juan 0-2, K, Fanas 0-2, Ewing 0-2, Zitella 1-1 (3rd in the league in hits) #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 1:54 pm : link
@RumblePoniesBB Rudick 1-2, 2B, 2 BB, HBP, Ramirez 2-4, 2b, 2 SB, Parada 1-3, 2b, BB, K, McLean 2-4, Clifford 0-2, 2 BB (leaving Brooklyn hasn't helped his hitting *yet* at least). Sproat 7 innings 6 hits 3 runs 1 walk 9 k's (longest outing of career), Gervase 1 perfect 2 k's
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Mike in NY : 5/21/2024 1:56 pm : link
In comment 16521334 DanMetroMan said:
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@RumblePoniesBB Rudick 1-2, 2B, 2 BB, HBP, Ramirez 2-4, 2b, 2 SB, Parada 1-3, 2b, BB, K, McLean 2-4, Clifford 0-2, 2 BB (leaving Brooklyn hasn't helped his hitting *yet* at least). Sproat 7 innings 6 hits 3 runs 1 walk 9 k's (longest outing of career), Gervase 1 perfect 2 k's


Not sure if posted, but De Los Santos also looks like he was promoted to AA. Wouldn't you know he stole a base as a PR.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:02 pm : link
In comment 16521336 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 16521334 DanMetroMan said:


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@RumblePoniesBB Rudick 1-2, 2B, 2 BB, HBP, Ramirez 2-4, 2b, 2 SB, Parada 1-3, 2b, BB, K, McLean 2-4, Clifford 0-2, 2 BB (leaving Brooklyn hasn't helped his hitting *yet* at least). Sproat 7 innings 6 hits 3 runs 1 walk 9 k's (longest outing of career), Gervase 1 perfect 2 k's



Not sure if posted, but De Los Santos also looks like he was promoted to AA. Wouldn't you know he stole a base as a PR.


If the Mets were ever actually good then he'd be a potential weapon as a pinch runner. Hit tool is below average (to be kind).
It'll be interesting to see how the Mets handle McLean  
Metnut : 5/21/2024 2:13 pm : link
going forward. Let's see it's May 2025, the Mets #5 starter is getting hit hard and McLean is performing very well in AAA. But, let's also assume that (i) his bat has exceeded expectations enough such that the prospect analysts think he'd be a borderline top 150 prospect (Lucas Duda type projection but realistic chance at Adam Dunn upside) with the bat alone, and (ii) has bit remains "behind" his arm and the Mets coaches think he needs another 300 or so AAA ABs before he'd ready to hit against MLB pitching.

What do the Mets do? Do you hold back the arm to make sure the bat is ripe? If there's an MLB need and the arm is ready, then you likely don't hold him back. However, if the bat ends up profiling as legit, you might be temped to hold him back a few months to give a couple hundred extra ABs.
His value  
DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:16 pm : link
very much is reliant on his arm. Adam Dunn struck out 16% of his AB's... at the MLB level with a 29% K rate, Nolan McLean posted an 8% bb rate and a *51.4%* k rate in A+, not a typo. He's a very, very impressive athlete but they aren't holding back a potential 3-4 SPer for a DH-only bat with monster power and monster k rates.
RE: His value  
DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:17 pm : link
In comment 16521347 DanMetroMan said:
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very much is reliant on his arm. Adam Dunn struck out 16% of his AB's... at the MLB level with a 29% K rate, Nolan McLean posted an 8% bb rate and a *51.4%* k rate in A+, not a typo. He's a very, very impressive athlete but they aren't holding back a potential 3-4 SPer for a DH-only bat with monster power and monster k rates.


That's obviously supposed to read *walked 16%* of his AB's.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:20 pm : link
Dunn had an 18.21 K% in the minors and was a big leaguer at 21, Nolan McLean coming into today career has a 50% k% and is 23 in July. Props to McLean for being able to do this, but he's a power goof bat. 70 power, 30 hit tool and won't get enough ab's to realistically get to even average.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:21 pm : link
Mets top IFA (at least bonus wise) SPer signing from last season is finally expected to make his debut next week (Daviel Hurtado). Missed all of 2023 due to injury.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:24 pm : link
Simon Juan has fallen back down to earth. He's now 0 for his last 15 with 5 k's
RE: His value  
Metnut : 5/21/2024 2:25 pm : link
In comment 16521347 DanMetroMan said:
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very much is reliant on his arm. Adam Dunn struck out 16% of his AB's... at the MLB level with a 29% K rate, Nolan McLean posted an 8% bb rate and a *51.4%* k rate in A+, not a typo. He's a very, very impressive athlete but they aren't holding back a potential 3-4 SPer for a DH-only bat with monster power and monster k rates.


Didn't realize the K-rate was that high. For some reason I thought he was getting on a base a lot more. I think I'm guilty of just reading the updates when he (or other Mets prospects) have a big day and scrolling past the rest.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:28 pm : link
In comment 16521354 Metnut said:
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In comment 16521347 DanMetroMan said:


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very much is reliant on his arm. Adam Dunn struck out 16% of his AB's... at the MLB level with a 29% K rate, Nolan McLean posted an 8% bb rate and a *51.4%* k rate in A+, not a typo. He's a very, very impressive athlete but they aren't holding back a potential 3-4 SPer for a DH-only bat with monster power and monster k rates.



Didn't realize the K-rate was that high. For some reason I thought he was getting on a base a lot more. I think I'm guilty of just reading the updates when he (or other Mets prospects) have a big day and scrolling past the rest.


At one point about a week ago he had more home runs than singles. As it is he has 17 hits, 7 doubles, 5 homers, 7 singles, 6 walks, 38 k's over 71 ab's. It's incredible he's even been able to hold his own but something pretty remarkable would have to happen for him to be viewed as a legitimate MLB prospect with the bat.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:31 pm : link
Rough April but Matt Rudick now has a .431 OBP in May. Quietly has a 128 wRC+ on the season. 92 AA games under his belt... @SyracuseMets in his not so distant future? #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 2:38 pm : link
Willy Fanas with a 2b (he now has 7 extra base hits over his first 38 ab's of 2024 7/8 BB/K. Came into today with a 138 wRC+ (20th in the FCL). He *is* older (20) and repeating the league but very encouraging start

A.J. Ewing with a 2 run bomb, his second of the year
Hearing  
DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 3:18 pm : link
TJ for Wyatt Hudepohl, but second hand so I'm not going to be posting it on twitter as a fact. No confirmation.
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allstarjim : 5/21/2024 3:26 pm : link
In comment 16521397 DanMetroMan said:
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TJ for Wyatt Hudepohl, but second hand so I'm not going to be posting it on twitter as a fact. No confirmation.


TJ?
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allstarjim : 5/21/2024 3:28 pm : link
In comment 16521404 allstarjim said:
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TJ for Wyatt Hudepohl, but second hand so I'm not going to be posting it on twitter as a fact. No confirmation.



TJ?


Oh, Tommy John surgery, got it. Was thinking this was a trade.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 3:32 pm : link
read from DiComo which includes a note on McLean which basically backs up what I said above

"High-A Brooklyn: Three more promotions of note: the Mets sent fourth-ranked prospect Ryan Clifford, No. 13 Brandon Sproat and No. 19 Nolan McLean from Brooklyn to Binghamton earlier this month. Clifford earned the bump despite a lackluster batting line at Brooklyn, while McLean also has plenty left to prove as a two-way player. Scouts continue to paint McLean as a far stronger prospect as a pitcher than a hitter, which could eventually force the Mets’ hand. As for Sproat, he’s been dominant with a caveat of his own: a walk rate that must come down if he’s to make good on his frontline potential.
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Link - ( New Window )
Don't love the long balls against Sproat  
allstarjim : 5/21/2024 3:45 pm : link
But that's an encouraging start nonetheless.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 4:22 pm : link
So it will *not* be Tidwell tonight but rather Jose Butto #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 4:30 pm : link
@fangraphs has updated their top 100 prospects. @chscott8 #1 for @Mets at #46, Drew Gilbert #55, Jett Williams #58 were the only @mets to make the list #Mets
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Eric on Li : 5/21/2024 4:35 pm : link
In comment 16521464 DanMetroMan said:
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@fangraphs has updated their top 100 prospects. @chscott8 #1 for @Mets at #46, Drew Gilbert #55, Jett Williams #58 were the only @mets to make the list #Mets


of course that would come out day after i used their list. explains why some of their team rankings were wonky (they had 2 #8's yesterday).
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 4:37 pm : link
In comment 16521467 Eric on Li said:
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In comment 16521464 DanMetroMan said:


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@fangraphs has updated their top 100 prospects. @chscott8 #1 for @Mets at #46, Drew Gilbert #55, Jett Williams #58 were the only @mets to make the list #Mets



of course that would come out day after i used their list. explains why some of their team rankings were wonky (they had 2 #8's yesterday).



Jeremy Rodriguez did crack the list at 100. I sorted for top 100 but for some reason that only gave 99 names? List actually has 107 players ranked not 100. That's my bad but also the site seems messed up at the moment.
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Eric on Li : 5/21/2024 4:41 pm : link
In comment 16521476 DanMetroMan said:
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@fangraphs has updated their top 100 prospects. @chscott8 #1 for @Mets at #46, Drew Gilbert #55, Jett Williams #58 were the only @mets to make the list #Mets



of course that would come out day after i used their list. explains why some of their team rankings were wonky (they had 2 #8's yesterday).




Jeremy Rodriguez did crack the list at 100. I sorted for top 100 but for some reason that only gave 99 names? List actually has 107 players ranked not 100. That's my bad but also the site seems messed up at the moment.


honestly their prospect rankings have seemed to fall behind in terms of depth/quality generally (imo).

if you go by the board they still have hamel/vasil #6/#7 in the system ahead of acuna and clifford/vargas not ranked anywhere.

i think it's because they havent done a full profile of the mets system this year, just the "imminent big leaguers" post on the guys in the upper minors. I assume J-Rod only got a rerank because he is top 100. their coverage this year has definitely been more disjointed than i can ever recall.
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 4:46 pm : link
imminent big leaguers list was so strange. A handful of teams got them. Should have just said "Mets list coming in July" or something of that nature.
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Eric on Li : 5/21/2024 4:52 pm : link
In comment 16521496 DanMetroMan said:
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imminent big leaguers list was so strange. A handful of teams got them. Should have just said "Mets list coming in July" or something of that nature.


agreed. i should have used kiley's list. these were his grades back in february, so i would assume acuna/clifford may have notched down to 45's in his midseason update if they dont improve, and j-rod will probably notch up to 50. he had baez as his breakout guy so he's probably also up to at least 45.

New York Mets
11th overall
5th in quality depth (prospects over 40 FV)
$235 million total value

1. Jett Williams, SS, 55 FV (31st on the Top 100)
2. Drew Gilbert, CF, 55 FV (39)
3. Luisangel Acuna, SS, 50 FV (58)
4. Ronny Mauricio, SS, 50 FV (72)
5. Ryan Clifford, RF, 50 FV (80)
6. Christian Scott, RHP, 50 FV (99)
7. Marco Vargas, 2B, 45+ FV (178)
8. Jacob Reimer, 3B, 45 FV
9. Blade Tidwell, RHP, 45 FV
10. Alex Ramirez, CF, 45 FV
11. Jeremy Rodriguez, SS, 45 FV
12. Kevin Parada, C, 40+ FV
13. Colin Houck, SS, 40+ FV
14. Mike Vasil, RHP, 40+ FV
15. Dominic Hamel, RHP, 40+ FV
16. Ronald Hernandez, C, 40 FV
17. Jesus Baez, SS, 40 FV
18. Jose Butto, RHP, 40 FV
19. Brandon Sproat, RHP, 40 FV
20. Nick Morabito, CF, 40 FV
21. Yovanny Rodriguez, C, 40 FV
22. Tyler Stuart, RHP, 40 FV
23. Joel Diaz, RHP, 40 FV
24. Nolan McLean, RHP, 40 FV
by kiley's grades in feb the mets trade deadline last year was $118m  
Eric on Li : 5/21/2024 4:56 pm : link
gilbert = 46m
acuna = 28m
clifford = 28m
vargas = 8m
j-rod = 6m
hernandez = 2m

plus or minus however he valued jarvis/jackson/taylor/houser.

some of those values have probably shifted, but my guess is it's pretty similar today (j-rod up, vargas up, acuna and/or clifford maybe down).
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 5:01 pm : link
the obvious here but obviously you aren't going to be moving up lists if you aren't playing so Gilbert, Jett, Mauricio remain in limbo and the same could be said for moving down lists, most of these lists aren't going to be dinging guys too much for missing time but if they were playing and struggling they would. It's basically a gray area for some of these guys.
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Eric on Li : 5/21/2024 5:10 pm : link
In comment 16521524 DanMetroMan said:
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the obvious here but obviously you aren't going to be moving up lists if you aren't playing so Gilbert, Jett, Mauricio remain in limbo and the same could be said for moving down lists, most of these lists aren't going to be dinging guys too much for missing time but if they were playing and struggling they would. It's basically a gray area for some of these guys.


honestly 2 months in, moving guys up and down is probably over done.

there are some guys who show obvious leaps that are justifiable for re-assessment, like showing you can play stateside at 17 after DSL. but guys like clifford and acuna, it's hard to tell what is just noise. who knows if teams are asking them to change specific approach type things knowing it may impact their performance in the short term. much easier to identify guys doing well than assess how far back players are falling.
RE: some prospect reading looking back at last year's deadline  
Optimus-NY : 5/21/2024 6:28 pm : link
In comment 16521291 Eric on Li said:
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for those that also celebrate j-rod appreciation day. 1 Year Later, How Does Mets 2023 Deadline Return Look? - ( New Window )


Great stuff Eric!!!
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DanMetroMan : 5/21/2024 7:28 pm : link
Jonah Tong has allowed 1 hit over 5 innings of work. He hasn’t walked a batter and has struck out 64 pitches/44 strikes. His era with @BKCyclones now sits at a tidy 1.53 #Mets
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Eric on Li : 5/21/2024 9:19 pm : link
In comment 16521611 Optimus-NY said:
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for those that also celebrate j-rod appreciation day. 1 Year Later, How Does Mets 2023 Deadline Return Look? - ( New Window )



Great stuff Eric!!!


thank you optimus.
j-rods homer today was 101 mph  
Eric on Li : 5/21/2024 9:21 pm : link
considering he looks like he's 150 pounds and 17 years old, seems pretty good.
looks like he blasted it  
Eric on Li : 5/21/2024 9:30 pm : link
dont think its hyperbole that by this time next year he could be the top prospect in the system. maybe even sooner than that.

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DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 8:07 am : link
.@SyracuseMets TBD (should be Tidwell’s AAA debut but we’ll see)
@RumblePoniesBB Nolan McLean (AA pitching debut)
@BKCyclones TBD (Kade Morris debut perhaps?)
@stluciemets Edwin “Mr. Slider” Mercedes
@FCLMets TBD #Mets
Fanas  
GF1080 : 5/22/2024 8:09 am : link
Promoted to St Lucie.
I tweeted this yesterday  
DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 8:20 am : link
“ Fanas with a walk. On base twice today 7 walks vs. 8 k's on the season. K rate down substantially from last season (from 28.3 to 20.5) and walking over 15% of his AB's, as a 20 year old FCL repeater, he's showing signs he should be tested. Are these real gains?”
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DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 8:42 am : link
In comment 16521906 DanMetroMan said:
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.@SyracuseMets TBD (should be Tidwell’s AAA debut but we’ll see)
@RumblePoniesBB Nolan McLean (AA pitching debut)
@BKCyclones TBD (Kade Morris debut perhaps?)
@stluciemets Edwin “Mr. Slider” Mercedes
@FCLMets TBD #Mets


Lucchesi for Syracuse
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DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 8:57 am : link
OF Donovan Antonia essentially swaps spots with Willy Fanas and is assigned to @FCLMets. @mets picked up Antonia as part of the minor league portion of the rule 5 draft #Mets
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Named Later : 5/22/2024 10:10 am : link
SYR with an 11am start time today. I hope Lucchessi's up to the task.

They beat the dog out of the Scranton Yankees last night.
This is the kind of Box Score I like.... - ( New Window )
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Section331 : 5/22/2024 10:12 am : link
In comment 16521647 DanMetroMan said:
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Jonah Tong has allowed 1 hit over 5 innings of work. He hasn’t walked a batter and has struck out 64 pitches/44 strikes. His era with @BKCyclones now sits at a tidy 1.53 #Mets


You have to wonder when Tong gets bumped up. He doesn’t seem to have much left to prove in Brooklyn.
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DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 10:14 am : link
In comment 16522029 Section331 said:
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Jonah Tong has allowed 1 hit over 5 innings of work. He hasn’t walked a batter and has struck out 64 pitches/44 strikes. His era with @BKCyclones now sits at a tidy 1.53 #Mets



You have to wonder when Tong gets bumped up. He doesn’t seem to have much left to prove in Brooklyn.


I doubt anytime soon. He's pitched 12.2 total innings in Brooklyn walking 9 and has already pitched more innings in 2024 than he did in his entire career combined. Big on Jonah Tong but he hasn't been "he should skip Brooklyn" good command wise.
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DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 10:16 am : link
In comment 16521930 DanMetroMan said:
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.@SyracuseMets TBD (should be Tidwell’s AAA debut but we’ll see)
@RumblePoniesBB Nolan McLean (AA pitching debut)
@BKCyclones TBD (Kade Morris debut perhaps?)
@stluciemets Edwin “Mr. Slider” Mercedes
@FCLMets TBD #Mets



Lucchesi for Syracuse


it is indeed Kade Morris's BK debut. The Mets are high on him.
Sprout strike percentage yesterday  
bhill410 : 5/22/2024 10:17 am : link
Was my biggest take away. I wonder if the home runs was a result of him specifically being told to challenge hitters in the zone.
RE: Sprout strike percentage yesterday  
DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 10:21 am : link
In comment 16522035 bhill410 said:
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Was my biggest take away. I wonder if the home runs was a result of him specifically being told to challenge hitters in the zone.


It's hard to say. The same way Brooklyn suppresses homers for hitters, the same can be said for the pitchers. Double edged sword.
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KDavies : 5/22/2024 10:32 am : link
In comment 16521930 DanMetroMan said:
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.@SyracuseMets TBD (should be Tidwell’s AAA debut but we’ll see)
@RumblePoniesBB Nolan McLean (AA pitching debut)
@BKCyclones TBD (Kade Morris debut perhaps?)
@stluciemets Edwin “Mr. Slider” Mercedes
@FCLMets TBD #Mets



Lucchesi for Syracuse


Isn't it Ernesto Mercedes?
Yes  
DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 10:36 am : link
auto correct.
Fanas  
DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 10:55 am : link
in the St. Lucie lineup hitting 7th
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DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 11:25 am : link
Ernesto Mercedes walks 3 and hits one in the first inning but doesn't allow a run. FB 91-96, mostly 93-94, 24 pitches, only 10 strikes #Mets
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DanMetroMan : 5/22/2024 11:28 am : link
Luisangel Acuna with a first inning 2b, Jose Iglesias singles and steals 2b. That is only Acuna's 4th extra base hit in May (18th game)
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