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The Giants passed on quarterbacks Michael Penix Jr., J.J. McCarthy and Bo Nix after reportedly offering their 2025 first-round pick to New England for a shot at drafting Drake Maye. They will bank on Malik Nabers to help salvage incumbent starting quarterback Daniel Jones. “I don’t think Nabers can save him, not without (Saquon) Barkley,” an exec said. “Malik should help Daniel Jones because he has ability to catch short passes and make big plays,” another exec said. New England’s refusal to move from No. 3 despite reported offers from the Vikings and Giants forced those teams to decide how much they valued Penix, McCarthy and Nix relative to their existing quarterback options. The Giants preferred the combination of Jones and Nabers. “(The Patriots) were not selling, or they were selling at a premium no one was willing to pay,” another exec said. “So do you draft arguably the best run-after-catch player in the draft, or do you take the fourth quarterback and roll the dice? They must feel pretty good about where Daniel is health-wise (after ACL surgery).” Some had Nabers as the best receiver in the draft. “They just sat there and took good players,” another exec said. “They got better. I thought taking (Andru) Phillips where they got him was early, but it was a reflection of the depth in this draft. You’d like (safety Tyler Nubin) to be faster, but he’s got size, he’s strong, he’s tough, instinctive, can play around the line of scrimmage and has good ball skills to make plays in coverage.” |
Some had Nabers the third best WR in the draft too ya know and some like McCarthy and Penix better than guys that went ahead of them
Ill play. The Giants should have drafted the most winning QB in college history and best QB under pressure vs taking the WR some thought was the 3rd best in the draft
I find it most interesting that it's so strong on the idea that New England wasn't going to give up the pick, since that general issue has been debated here.
Well, it's going to be in contrast to how JJM, Nix, & Penix look. Expect a thread each week.
I think Nabers is going to be a stud, but if one of those 3 QBs are tearing it up...buckle up.
I just hope he makes them more fun to watch. I gave up Sunday Ticket and missed a bunch of games last year because I knew it was just going to be painful.
Some had Nabers the third best WR in the draft too ya know and some like McCarthy and Penix better than guys that went ahead of them
Ill play. The Giants should have drafted the most winning QB in college history and best QB under pressure vs taking the WR some thought was the 3rd best in the draft
There were also all lot pundits who said all of those QBs remaining would be valued as second round talents but they know that was not how they were going to go in the draft.
I know you are not one of those to agree but it's clear that is what the Giants thought. So they were comparing second round talents with Top 5 talent.
Also there are a ton of college winning QBs out of the league being cut before their rookie contracts expire.
It's ironic that the fans that want any QB than DJ are the same ones that were upset DJ was over drafted.
Can't wait until Nabers drops a pass.
It's ironic that the fans that want any QB than DJ are the same ones that were upset DJ was over drafted.
100%
Revisit what exactly? I would say the overwhelming majority of the board thinks Nabers is a fantastic WR prospect.
For better or for worst.
It depends on which you look at it.
Plan B could have been this: We're good keeping Jones and getting him back to 2022 form, but we need to get him more help. Since we addressed the OL in free agency, let's upgrade WR for him in this WR rich draft.
Nabers gets drafted. Hence, Plan B completed.
This simply isn't true. Opposing defenses' sole focus was Saquon before. You think the o line helped Saquon? He's going to be good in Philly as long as he is healthy, it will be ugly.
Some had Nabers the third best WR in the draft too ya know and some like McCarthy and Penix better than guys that went ahead of them
Ill play. The Giants should have drafted the most winning QB in college history and best QB under pressure vs taking the WR some thought was the 3rd best in the draft
Guys look! It’s a novel take on the draft! This guy should be paid attention to!
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It depends on which you look at it.
Plan B could have been this: We're good keeping Jones and getting him back to 2022 form, but we need to get him more help. Since we addressed the OL in free agency, let's upgrade WR for him in this WR rich draft.
Nabers gets drafted. Hence, Plan B completed.
Sure, but if the Giants start 1-4 again with Jones, I don't see him keeping his starting job.
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who says Jones is not salvageable without Barkley. I mean maybe Jones is salvageable and maybe he’s not (much more likely not) but absolutely nothing about Jones’ future could be changed by Barkley for either better or worse. It’s amazing the impression that pervades that Barkley is a difference making player.. Those eagles fans are gonna be pelting him with snowballs by December on the off chance he isn’t out for the year by that point.
This simply isn't true. Opposing defenses' sole focus was Saquon before. You think the o line helped Saquon? He's going to be good in Philly as long as he is healthy, it will be ugly.
Its weird, the whole NFL says this but certain BBI'ers just refuse to accept it. Defenses only keyed on Barkley, thats it. Stop Barkley and you stop the Giants offense. I know this is hard to believe with the major firepower we had at QB, WR, and TE, but its true. Even Parsons on Dallas said it. So the Exec is saying that if DJ couldn't perform when defenses didn't focus much on him, then how is he going to do when he is now the guy (and maybe Nabers). Damn good question. Barkley had some really good seasons here, which is amazing when yo consider the crap he was playing with
Is the pick just for this season?
Ive seen alot of Odell comparisons. Well he looked like an all timer after his first season but by end of 4 years everyone was sick of him. There are a few red flags on Nabers off the field & attitude wise
We will see. Personally I dont like WRs as centerpieces of teams and there is a laundry list of WRs who wore out welcome on their teams and not many with rings
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who says Jones is not salvageable without Barkley. I mean maybe Jones is salvageable and maybe he’s not (much more likely not) but absolutely nothing about Jones’ future could be changed by Barkley for either better or worse. It’s amazing the impression that pervades that Barkley is a difference making player.. Those eagles fans are gonna be pelting him with snowballs by December on the off chance he isn’t out for the year by that point.
This simply isn't true. Opposing defenses' sole focus was Saquon before. You think the o line helped Saquon? He's going to be good in Philly as long as he is healthy, it will be ugly.
Its weird, the whole NFL says this but certain BBI'ers just refuse to accept it. Defenses only keyed on Barkley, thats it. Stop Barkley and you stop the Giants offense. I know this is hard to believe with the major firepower we had at QB, WR, and TE, but its true. Even Parsons on Dallas said it. So the Exec is saying that if DJ couldn't perform when defenses didn't focus much on him, then how is he going to do when he is now the guy (and maybe Nabers). Damn good question. Barkley had some really good seasons here, which is amazing when yo consider the crap he was playing with
The question is, did they focus on stopping the run because Saquon was so dominant or because there was nothing else on the Giants O to worry about? Saquon will be very dangerous with the Eagles for multiple reasons, but he obviously wasn’t doing a lot to help our offense. Investing his money into the OL and a much cheaper group of RBs is probably a better allocation of resources. I think it will be.
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to revisit comments from Giants fans about Nabers at the end of this season.
Well, it's going to be in contrast to how JJM, Nix, & Penix look. Expect a thread each week.
I think Nabers is going to be a stud, but if one of those 3 QBs are tearing it up...buckle up.
Looks like Penix will be on the bench.
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In comment 16504326 eugibs said:
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who says Jones is not salvageable without Barkley. I mean maybe Jones is salvageable and maybe he’s not (much more likely not) but absolutely nothing about Jones’ future could be changed by Barkley for either better or worse. It’s amazing the impression that pervades that Barkley is a difference making player.. Those eagles fans are gonna be pelting him with snowballs by December on the off chance he isn’t out for the year by that point.
This simply isn't true. Opposing defenses' sole focus was Saquon before. You think the o line helped Saquon? He's going to be good in Philly as long as he is healthy, it will be ugly.
Its weird, the whole NFL says this but certain BBI'ers just refuse to accept it. Defenses only keyed on Barkley, thats it. Stop Barkley and you stop the Giants offense. I know this is hard to believe with the major firepower we had at QB, WR, and TE, but its true. Even Parsons on Dallas said it. So the Exec is saying that if DJ couldn't perform when defenses didn't focus much on him, then how is he going to do when he is now the guy (and maybe Nabers). Damn good question. Barkley had some really good seasons here, which is amazing when yo consider the crap he was playing with
The question is, did they focus on stopping the run because Saquon was so dominant or because there was nothing else on the Giants O to worry about? Saquon will be very dangerous with the Eagles for multiple reasons, but he obviously wasn’t doing a lot to help our offense. Investing his money into the OL and a much cheaper group of RBs is probably a better allocation of resources. I think it will be.
That doesn't matter, DJ couldn't make plays when the box was stacked and defenses just focused on stopping Saquon. Any competent QB would punish defenses for doing that, but DJ didn't. Now defenses can just do the same thing with stacking the box to stop Saquon, just for stopping the short passing game and pressuring the QB. It will be harder for DJ 100%. These execs know more than the common BBI nerd.
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who says Jones is not salvageable without Barkley. I mean maybe Jones is salvageable and maybe he’s not (much more likely not) but absolutely nothing about Jones’ future could be changed by Barkley for either better or worse. It’s amazing the impression that pervades that Barkley is a difference making player.. Those eagles fans are gonna be pelting him with snowballs by December on the off chance he isn’t out for the year by that point.
This simply isn't true. Opposing defenses' sole focus was Saquon before. You think the o line helped Saquon? He's going to be good in Philly as long as he is healthy, it will be ugly.
Its weird, the whole NFL says this but certain BBI'ers just refuse to accept it. Defenses only keyed on Barkley, thats it. Stop Barkley and you stop the Giants offense. I know this is hard to believe with the major firepower we had at QB, WR, and TE, but its true. Even Parsons on Dallas said it. So the Exec is saying that if DJ couldn't perform when defenses didn't focus much on him, then how is he going to do when he is now the guy (and maybe Nabers). Damn good question. Barkley had some really good seasons here, which is amazing when yo consider the crap he was playing with
Thank you, it's ridiculous the lengths people go to defend DJ while simultaneously throwing solid players under the bus in order to rationalize for Jones.
Barkley must be the most overrated player. WHEN he was healthy he was a good back, nothing more.
I expect DJ to be here until at least 2026
Some had Nabers the third best WR in the draft too ya know and some like McCarthy and Penix better than guys that went ahead of them
Ill play. The Giants should have drafted the most winning QB in college history and best QB under pressure vs taking the WR some thought was the 3rd best in the draft
I completely agree!
Right, so losing a good RB, who can catch out the backfield and is a good blocker will not effect Dan Jones play? 😂
Not to mention Defenses had to account for Saquon, now that he's gone, Watch Dan Jones stink up the joint worse
100%. As much as I wanted a QB, Nabers is going to be a stud and a fan favorite very early this season.
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to revisit comments from Giants fans about Nabers at the end of this season.
Well, it's going to be in contrast to how JJM, Nix, & Penix look. Expect a thread each week.
I think Nabers is going to be a stud, but if one of those 3 QBs are tearing it up...buckle up.
Exactly, and I'm not sure I would have drafted any of them over Nabers, either.