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NFT: Indiana Pacers vs. New York Knicks Series Discussion

Anakim : 5/3/2024 12:18 am
Hicks vs. Knicks 2024 edition.



Game 1: Monday, May 6: at New York, 7:30 p.m., TNT

Game 2: Wednesday, May 8: at New York, 8 p.m., TNT

Game 3: Friday, May 10: at Indiana, 7 p.m., ESPN

Game 4: Sunday, May 12: at Indiana, 3:30 p.m., ABC



I will be beyond irate if we let Obitch Toppin and TJ "I'm not a YMCA player" McConnell run wild on us.


OG vs. Siakam will be a hell of a matchup. Former teammates. That'll be a real battle.

Brunson vs. Haliburton.


GO NY GO NY GO! Fuck the Pacers.
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nygiants16 : 5/3/2024 12:50 pm : link
Celtics were all blowouts basically but they go 7 with hauser as the 8th guy trying to steal 5 to 10 minutes..

Bucks played 7, Gallinari got 4 minutes.

Cavs basically play 7 with Merril as their 8th guy for 5 minutes

Pacers play 8

Heat played 8

Magic played 10
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shyster : 5/3/2024 1:20 pm : link
In comment 16505369 nygiants16 said:
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Celtics were all blowouts basically but they go 7 with hauser as the 8th guy trying to steal 5 to 10 minutes..

Bucks played 7, Gallinari got 4 minutes.

Cavs basically play 7 with Merril as their 8th guy for 5 minutes

Pacers play 8

Heat played 8

Magic played 10


A lot of this is way off. Hauser played 22 minutes a game this season for Boston, averaging six three point attempts per game. He played quite a bit more than 5-10 during the Heat series, and not because they were blowouts.

Cavs have seven guys averaging at least 20 minute a game vs Magic, then Niang the 8th guy averaging 15 minutes a game, then Morris the ninth guy at 8 minutes, before getting to Merrill at 7 minutes per.

I know you know stats so the slant is a bit tedious.
RE: RE: you guys and your thibs minutes  
djm : 5/3/2024 1:26 pm : link
In comment 16505358 Matt M. said:
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I will help Stu fight the good fight here..

It's May. It's the magnificent 7 every night for virtually every team. Maybe 8.

No other team thus far has had a 7 man rotation this playoffs and only 2 teams had as few as 8. Some of the games are hard to gauge, though, because they were blowouts.


Again, what are we talking about when Denver's 6th and 7th guy play like 13 minutes a game lol.

If you guys are going to conjure up a team that goes deep rotations, don't use Denver. They are more top heavy than the Knicks.
and Denver wasn't much different last year  
djm : 5/3/2024 1:29 pm : link
except they played Bruce Brown more minutes.
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nygiants16 : 5/3/2024 1:51 pm : link
In comment 16505392 shyster said:
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In comment 16505369 nygiants16 said:


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Celtics were all blowouts basically but they go 7 with hauser as the 8th guy trying to steal 5 to 10 minutes..

Bucks played 7, Gallinari got 4 minutes.

Cavs basically play 7 with Merril as their 8th guy for 5 minutes

Pacers play 8

Heat played 8

Magic played 10



A lot of this is way off. Hauser played 22 minutes a game this season for Boston, averaging six three point attempts per game. He played quite a bit more than 5-10 during the Heat series, and not because they were blowouts.

Cavs have seven guys averaging at least 20 minute a game vs Magic, then Niang the 8th guy averaging 15 minutes a game, then Morris the ninth guy at 8 minutes, before getting to Merrill at 7 minutes per.

I know you know stats so the slant is a bit tedious.


We are tlaking playoffs not regular season..

Hauser is playing 15 MPG and every single game had a point differential of 10+, so yes every game was a blowout..

With the cavs you are right i forgot about Niang
Darrin Han fired  
JT039 : 5/3/2024 2:36 pm : link
Another coach Lebron gets fired.

His act sucks. Hope he retires.
Darvin Ham  
JT039 : 5/3/2024 2:36 pm : link
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looking for 2 tickets  
WhoCares : 5/3/2024 2:51 pm : link
email me at notdoxxable@protonmail.com

Thanks!
It doesn't matter if a guy plays ~5min  
Matt M. : 5/3/2024 3:35 pm : link
That's still time on the floor. Nobody here wants another Knick to get double digit minutes. But, 5 minutes from someone else gets a short breather ton one of their starters. That's all.

So far, this post season the Knicks are the only team to use a 7 man rotation in any game and they are the only team with 3 players averaging over 40 minutes per game. Yes, blowouts do skew that a bit, however.
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nygiants16 : 5/3/2024 4:27 pm : link
In comment 16505510 Matt M. said:
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That's still time on the floor. Nobody here wants another Knick to get double digit minutes. But, 5 minutes from someone else gets a short breather ton one of their starters. That's all.

So far, this post season the Knicks are the only team to use a 7 man rotation in any game and they are the only team with 3 players averaging over 40 minutes per game. Yes, blowouts do skew that a bit, however.


i think you nailed it, a lot of blowouts..

You will see teams trim their rotation more as they go..

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Matt M. : 5/3/2024 4:36 pm : link
In comment 16505565 nygiants16 said:
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That's still time on the floor. Nobody here wants another Knick to get double digit minutes. But, 5 minutes from someone else gets a short breather ton one of their starters. That's all.

So far, this post season the Knicks are the only team to use a 7 man rotation in any game and they are the only team with 3 players averaging over 40 minutes per game. Yes, blowouts do skew that a bit, however.



i think you nailed it, a lot of blowouts..

You will see teams trim their rotation more as they go..
Not to 7 though. That is not the norm.
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nygiants16 : 5/3/2024 5:46 pm : link
In comment 16505579 Matt M. said:
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In comment 16505510 Matt M. said:


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That's still time on the floor. Nobody here wants another Knick to get double digit minutes. But, 5 minutes from someone else gets a short breather ton one of their starters. That's all.

So far, this post season the Knicks are the only team to use a 7 man rotation in any game and they are the only team with 3 players averaging over 40 minutes per game. Yes, blowouts do skew that a bit, however.



i think you nailed it, a lot of blowouts..

You will see teams trim their rotation more as they go..


Not to 7 though. That is not the norm.


no,i say 8 is, and every superstar plays at minimum 40 minutes..
Haha  
BigBlueShock : 5/3/2024 6:00 pm : link
The minutes police are out in full force I see.

I hate to break it you guys but the Knicks are conditioned for this. We kill Thibs all season for playing guys too much but this series should have showed you why he does it. Regardless of minutes the Knicks were the fresher team in almost every single game of this series in the 4th quarter. I wonder why…
That was an extremely close series  
steve in ky : 5/3/2024 6:12 pm : link
Maybe it goes differently if Thibs don’t play his best the minutes he did. The guys that play the most are young and in tremendous shape, they’ll be fine and actually seem to thrive on it. I can’t help but wonder if it doesn’t demoralize their opponents a little late in games when it’s obvious the guy across from them is still going all out when they are breathing heavy?

Thibs knows his players and what they can handle better than anybody. He’s a good coach they all seem to love playing for.
Knicks in 5. DDV or Deuce on Tyrese and OG on Siakam  
Ira : 5/3/2024 6:19 pm : link
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RE: Obi is gonna  
Carl in CT : 5/3/2024 6:48 pm : link
In comment 16504963 Enzo said:
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have at least one big game. If the Pacers don't sign him I'd take him back here. His TS% this year was .677 which is insane.


Obi is a cherry picker. Just wants to release on the break for a jam. His man should have tons of offensive rebounds if one of our guards gets back. He plays no defense.
I will say  
nygiants16 : 5/3/2024 7:06 pm : link
Its nice to be able to watch basketball tonight, to big game 6s with no stress haha
Messing around on the trade machine  
Jon In NYC : 5/3/2024 8:34 pm : link
What is the most you'd trade for Mikal Bridges this offseason? I assume Randle is off the table, as are obviously the Villanova trio, OG and Hartenstein.

Deuce + Bogie + 4 firsts?

Mitch + Deuce + 2 firsts?
RE: Messing around on the trade machine  
nygiants16 : 5/3/2024 8:37 pm : link
In comment 16505720 Jon In NYC said:
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What is the most you'd trade for Mikal Bridges this offseason? I assume Randle is off the table, as are obviously the Villanova trio, OG and Hartenstein.

Deuce + Bogie + 4 firsts?

Mitch + Deuce + 2 firsts?


Id rather trade Randle than Deuce and i know it sounds like a major knock on Randle but its more about fit after you get Bridges
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djm : 5/3/2024 9:31 pm : link
In comment 16505668 nygiants16 said:
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Its nice to be able to watch basketball tonight, to big game 6s with no stress haha


You ain’t kidding I needed a break too.
Darias Garland got an 8 second violation in a playoff game  
nygiants16 : 5/3/2024 9:37 pm : link
oh and there was no pressure hahaha, Dude is a mental midget
game 7 saturday Cavs vs Magic  
nygiants16 : 5/3/2024 9:47 pm : link
if Cavs lose i will bet that Mitchell wont sit silently when it comes to being trade this time around. He is going to demand a trade and he is going to tell teams where he wants to go..

the rest of the cavs are an absolute joke, what a soft team Mitchell on 1 leg scores 50 and they still lose
RE: Messing around on the trade machine  
Mike in NJ : 5/3/2024 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16505720 Jon In NYC said:
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What is the most you'd trade for Mikal Bridges this offseason? I assume Randle is off the table, as are obviously the Villanova trio, OG and Hartenstein.

Deuce + Bogie + 4 firsts?

Mitch + Deuce + 2 firsts?


I think they could get away with not including Deuce. They’re going to select two rookies in the first round this year, I’d expect one or both of them would be in the deal, and then probably 3 firsts with Bogie’s salary.

I doubt Randle is in a deal for Bridges. You’re basically all in after a Bridges trade, and don’t have a true second option to take the load off of Brunson. I don’t know that Bridges is that guy consistently enough so ideally you’re bringing him in as the third guy alongside Jalen and Randle.

Changing of the guard out West.  
bceagle05 : 5/4/2024 12:07 am : link
Luka, Ant, OKC kids and of course Jokic moving on - Lebron, AD, KD, Booker, Steph, Kawhi, Harden, PG all out. And Wemby will start to climb the ladder soon too.
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bluefin : 5/4/2024 1:45 am : link
In comment 16505753 djm said:
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Its nice to be able to watch basketball tonight, to big game 6s with no stress haha



You ain’t kidding I needed a break too.

Likewise!
I'm  
Jon In NYC : 5/4/2024 11:23 am : link
just getting ahead of this...it sounds like Jimmy Butler may be on the move this summer.

I could not have less interest. Not what this team needs. Let him go back to Philly.
RE: I'm  
nygiants16 : 5/4/2024 11:33 am : link
In comment 16506032 Jon In NYC said:
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just getting ahead of this...it sounds like Jimmy Butler may be on the move this summer.

I could not have less interest. Not what this team needs. Let him go back to Philly.


Looks like Miami is going to break it up, Cleveland going to take Jimmy for Mitchell?
I’m sure Thibs will want Jimmy  
bceagle05 : 5/4/2024 1:05 pm : link
but I don’t think we’ll have any interest.
Knicks social media team in playoff mode too.  
bceagle05 : 5/4/2024 2:47 pm : link
Lots of good content lately. This is a look back at the whole Philly series...
Link - ( New Window )
This summer is lining up to make 2010 & 19  
Stu11 : 5/4/2024 2:50 pm : link
Look like a drizzle of moves. Guys are gonna be moving all over the place. The greatest thing about it is we're in position to pick and chose rather than be hat in hand beggars like the other 2 summers.
And the OG defensive highlight reel I've been waiting for.  
bceagle05 : 5/4/2024 3:43 pm : link
Basketball porn.
OG - ( New Window )
RE: I'm  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/4/2024 3:45 pm : link
In comment 16506032 Jon In NYC said:
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just getting ahead of this...it sounds like Jimmy Butler may be on the move this summer.

I could not have less interest. Not what this team needs. Let him go back to Philly.


Lowe mentioned that on his podcast yesterday.
RE: And the OG defensive highlight reel I've been waiting for.  
fredgbrown : 5/4/2024 8:10 pm : link
In comment 16506239 bceagle05 said:
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Basketball porn. OG - ( New Window )
I love this guys sound effects...Embiid trying to establish position in the post Psfft...OG moves him to 3 point line Psfft....
Orlando up 15 on Cleveland in the second quarter.  
bceagle05 : 5/5/2024 1:51 pm : link
Suffocating defense so far.
Nice run from Cleveland but  
bceagle05 : 5/5/2024 2:18 pm : link
Orlando still up 10 at the half. Hideous performance from Garland so far.
Its kind of funny watching the other players  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2024 2:55 pm : link
on the cavs act tough as Mitchell does all the work
Wagner completely shitting the bed for the Magic  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2024 2:56 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/5/2024 3:04 pm : link
Magic wilting.
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nygiants16 : 5/5/2024 3:06 pm : link
In comment 16506914 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Magic wilting.


they cant fricken shoot and their 2nd best player shit the bed
Cleveland is going to get swept by Boston  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2024 3:24 pm : link
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Cleveland is going nowhere married to Garland as their PG  
Stu11 : 5/5/2024 4:17 pm : link
Allen literally couldn't show up the last half of the series. Garland made a couple plays late but was a no show for 3 and a half quarters. Mobley actually was a defensive force on the series but Orlando was a nice front line matchup for him. If I were Mitchell I'd run away. He's not winning anything there.
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Larry in Pencilvania : 5/5/2024 6:10 pm : link
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Boston is going to shit on Cleveland. But they'll be happy because they won a series. The Celtics haven't been challenged in a while and looked bored against the Heat. The cabs won't be much of a challenge.

The Knicks are going to be like running into a brick wall

 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/5/2024 6:21 pm : link
I actually think there’s a good chance Minnesota wins it all. I think they’re winning the West after watching them last night. They have the big men to throw at Joker.
When Mitchell demands a trade  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2024 7:33 pm : link
and he leaves, Cleveland is screwed, Building around a loser like Garland and a soft big like Mobely is a not a recipe for success..

and its not like they can add anymore because of cap and the picks they have traded
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nygiants16 : 5/5/2024 7:34 pm : link
In comment 16507063 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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Boston is going to shit on Cleveland. But they'll be happy because they won a series. The Celtics haven't been challenged in a while and looked bored against the Heat. The cabs won't be much of a challenge.

The Knicks are going to be like running into a brick wall


Tatum and Brown are just going to hunt Garland and Mitchell and expose them..

If Mobely or Allen had any set of balls they could kill them on the glass but they are both softer than tissue paper..

Mitchell cant go for 50 everh night to hold them afloat
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djm : 5/5/2024 7:35 pm : link
In comment 16507073 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I actually think there’s a good chance Minnesota wins it all. I think they’re winning the West after watching them last night. They have the big men to throw at Joker.


Seconded
On the Pacers series  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2024 7:52 pm : link
we can talk about the matchups and all that and how the Pacers really dont play defense and dont have the length the Sixers do...

But i think the biggest thing is the Pacer slove to get out in transition, they love to release and get out..If they do that they are going to get absolutely destroyed on the glass and thats not the way to beat the Knicks...

Then the sevond the Pacers adjust to crash the glass they are going to play a half court game and thats not the place they want to be..
Not sure if this was discussed yet - and lord knows I want to  
CooperDash : 5/5/2024 8:03 pm : link
put that POS Embiid out of my mind…BUT…has anyone seen the clip of Embiid purposely being a super douche to an MSG usher during warmups. I don’t think I’ve hated an NBA player more.
Embiid is a child - ( New Window )
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Larry in Pencilvania : 5/5/2024 10:10 pm : link
In comment 16507112 nygiants16 said:
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Boston is going to shit on Cleveland. But they'll be happy because they won a series. The Celtics haven't been challenged in a while and looked bored against the Heat. The cabs won't be much of a challenge.

The Knicks are going to be like running into a brick wall




Tatum and Brown are just going to hunt Garland and Mitchell and expose them..

If Mobely or Allen had any set of balls they could kill them on the glass but they are both softer than tissue paper..

Mitchell cant go for 50 everh night to hold them afloat


I agree 👍. Cavs can't hang with the Celtic firepower and their way too soft on the other end. Celtics need to be punched in the mouth but the Cavs are toilet paper 🧻🧻🧻🧻
RE: Not sure if this was discussed yet - and lord knows I want to  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2024 10:23 pm : link
In comment 16507131 CooperDash said:
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put that POS Embiid out of my mind…BUT…has anyone seen the clip of Embiid purposely being a super douche to an MSG usher during warmups. I don’t think I’ve hated an NBA player more. Embiid is a child - ( New Window )


I saw this, guy just trying to do his job, not even on the court and Embiid has to be a nozzle and of course his two prick bodyguards trying to oush the guy out of thw way
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