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Sanders could be first pick in the 2025 draft

jeff57 : 5/6/2024 10:34 am
According to Jason La Canfora:

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But the same general managers and evaluators who told me months ago that the 2024 class would feature six first-round quarterbacks were in agreement that Sanders would have stood up comparatively well against Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake Maye et al., and those evaluators are projecting Sanders will go much higher next year than mock drafts are predicting.

“He was QB1 for me if he came out this year,” said a longtime NFL evaluator whose scouting reports about the 2024 class proved salient. (He spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the proprietary nature of scouting observations.) “You have to manage him a little differently, and Deion is going to be heavily involved … so you have to be prepared to deal with that bulls---. . . .

This kid can really play. He’s got good accuracy. He can let it rip. He’s not a sprinter, but he’s more than athletic enough. He’s got some charisma to him, he has strong leadership traits, he’s more than tough enough. . . .

And a top talent evaluator for a team that did select a quarterback in 2024 said of Sanders: “I really like him, man. I really do. He can play. He was right up there in the top three [quarterbacks] for me. I would have been stacking him right there with Daniels or Maye. Definitely would have had him before [Michael] Penix, [J.J.] McCarthy or [Bo] Nix. If this kid comes out, he’s going in the top five or six picks. He could be the first pick of this draft.”



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RE: bw in dc  
bw in dc : 5/6/2024 7:31 pm : link
In comment 16507719 BigBlueCane said:
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Sanders made his OL look worse by holding the ball and trying to play hero ball. Pretty much all of the players who left Colorado hated him and his father.


He's not even remotely close to being QB1.


You Miami guys kill me. If Deion went to Miami, would you feel similarly? ;)

There were times when it looked like Shadeur was trying to make a bigger play. But they were significantly more times when it was a jailbreak and he had to try to make chicken salad. Just look at the PPF rankings. The CO OL was 67th in the nation in pass blocking. Think about that...
RE: BleedBlue46.  
BleedBlue46 : 5/6/2024 7:59 pm : link
In comment 16507895 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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You might be right, but that ship is taking on a lot of water. That 3-0 start might as well been in 2003. I have no idea what Deion is doing on Twitter or what the hell he's thinking. It's entertaining AF, but I don't think he's building something sustainable long term even in the transfer portal era.

I don't know if he's there in a couple of years.


If he isn't there I'd bet he goes to a bigger program. He brings in a lot of talent, it's honestly incredible how much he had revitalized the Buffs' program in the past year.
RE: RE: bw in dc  
BleedBlue46 : 5/6/2024 8:00 pm : link
In comment 16507902 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16507719 BigBlueCane said:


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Sanders made his OL look worse by holding the ball and trying to play hero ball. Pretty much all of the players who left Colorado hated him and his father.


He's not even remotely close to being QB1.



You Miami guys kill me. If Deion went to Miami, would you feel similarly? ;)

There were times when it looked like Shadeur was trying to make a bigger play. But they were significantly more times when it was a jailbreak and he had to try to make chicken salad. Just look at the PPF rankings. The CO OL was 67th in the nation in pass blocking. Think about that...


Speaking of the 'Canes, I'm excited to see Cam Ward there.
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bw in dc : 5/6/2024 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16507919 BleedBlue46 said:
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Speaking of the 'Canes, I'm excited to see Cam Ward there.


Soffer must have offered an NIL deal he couldn't refuse because Cristobal is not a very good football coach for QBs. Ward should have played for Day at Ohio State. Day is a terrific offensive coach and Chip Kelly is now the OC.
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BleedBlue46 : 5/6/2024 8:19 pm : link
In comment 16507946 bw in dc said:
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In comment 16507919 BleedBlue46 said:


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Speaking of the 'Canes, I'm excited to see Cam Ward there.



Soffer must have offered an NIL deal he couldn't refuse because Cristobal is not a very good football coach for QBs. Ward should have played for Day at Ohio State. Day is a terrific offensive coach and Chip Kelly is now the OC.


Yeah, Cristobal is a terrible coach in general. Ward should have definitely gone to Ohio st. Howard will be interesting to follow there, he wasn't even on my radar until Sy mentioned him.
RE: I watched parts of a lot of Colorado games...  
BigBlueBuff : 5/6/2024 10:25 pm : link
In comment 16507512 bw in dc said:
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last year to get a better sense on Sanders. He is one tough kid. He played behind the worst OL in the country last year and took an absolute beating. That's how he fractured his back.

The OL should have been arrested for assault that's how bad they were.

Sanders has a good arm - not great - and his movement is average. I don't think he is a great athlete and won't be a dual threat like a Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniels. He'll be a pocket posser who can buy time if needed.

So, it's going to be interesting watching him play this year and how he improves.

The best pro prosect on that team is Travis Hunter, the corner/WR.

BTW, Deion's bluster brings out the best in the other teams. Teams were fired up to play Colorado and the games got very physical. The cheap shot Hunter took in the Colorado State game was vicious. And I think it was because of Deion...
Finally someone talks about the actual football. I’ve been saying it as often as possible: Shedeur is good, not great and is not going at the top of the draft because the talent isn’t there. Nothing to do with race or Deion.

And before someone quotes some draft website, two that I checked this morning still had Cam Ward and DJ Uiagalelei at their former schools.
RE: RE: BleedBlue46.  
BigBlueBuff : 5/6/2024 10:31 pm : link
In comment 16507917 BleedBlue46 said:
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You might be right, but that ship is taking on a lot of water. That 3-0 start might as well been in 2003. I have no idea what Deion is doing on Twitter or what the hell he's thinking. It's entertaining AF, but I don't think he's building something sustainable long term even in the transfer portal era.

I don't know if he's there in a couple of years.



If he isn't there I'd bet he goes to a bigger program. He brings in a lot of talent, it's honestly incredible how much he had revitalized the Buffs' program in the past year.

Did you watch a different CU team than the one in Boulder? His HS recruiting is terrible, most of his incoming transfers weren’t good, and he’s been bleeding players. I don’t see how you could make any claim that the program is on stable ground after one season.
RE: RE: RE: BleedBlue46.  
BleedBlue46 : 5/6/2024 10:45 pm : link
In comment 16508274 BigBlueBuff said:
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You might be right, but that ship is taking on a lot of water. That 3-0 start might as well been in 2003. I have no idea what Deion is doing on Twitter or what the hell he's thinking. It's entertaining AF, but I don't think he's building something sustainable long term even in the transfer portal era.

I don't know if he's there in a couple of years.



If he isn't there I'd bet he goes to a bigger program. He brings in a lot of talent, it's honestly incredible how much he had revitalized the Buffs' program in the past year.


Did you watch a different CU team than the one in Boulder? His HS recruiting is terrible, most of his incoming transfers weren’t good, and he’s been bleeding players. I don’t see how you could make any claim that the program is on stable ground after one season.


They were in the gutter and he got several big recruits this year, they never got any good recruits before. It's a night and day difference.
I know this may sound out there  
JT039 : 5/6/2024 11:04 pm : link
But do you think Deion actually coaches? Seems more like a recruiter and a mouthpiece.
NIL money got those recruits  
BigBlueCane : 5/7/2024 4:14 am : link
not Deion. Deion is known to be a shit recruiter.
I dont think the Giants or Mara or racist  
Modog : 5/7/2024 8:34 am : link
But I will say they have a type, Sanders is not that.
The funny thing about this thread  
81_Great_Dane : 5/7/2024 11:03 am : link
is that despite the many, many posts above insisting that the Giants wouldn't be interested in Sanders, there were reports the Giants were interested in him until he announced he wasn't entering the draft.

I haven't seen him play so I don't have an opinion on him as a QB. Does he seem like a talent that Daboll can develop?
Sanders  
gary_from_chester : 5/7/2024 11:29 am : link
Very talented. Gamer, tough as nails. Think he’ll be picked somewhere in the top 10.

Deion as a distraction is overrated. He has his own career and legacy, he won’t live through his son’s.

I think Shadeur is in the mix for NYG next year.
RE: I know this may sound out there  
Metnut : 5/7/2024 12:39 pm : link
In comment 16508320 JT039 said:
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But do you think Deion actually coaches? Seems more like a recruiter and a mouthpiece.


He didn't take a single visit to a high school recruit. He said he was too busy. Meanwhile, he was taking shots at players who transferred out of CU on social media.

He's already feeling the pressure having lost 7 in a row to finish last year after talking such a big game. My guess is he'll be out of coaching once his son is in the NFL.
RE: I know this may sound out there  
FStubbs : 5/16/2024 1:20 pm : link
In comment 16508320 JT039 said:
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But do you think Deion actually coaches? Seems more like a recruiter and a mouthpiece.


Plenty of guys are able to do this in college ball. Urban Meyer probably knows less about football than half the people in this thread, and he did well in college.
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LauderdaleMatty : 5/16/2024 3:49 pm : link
In comment 16507888 BleedBlue46 said:
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As somewhat as an aside, it is going sideways fast for Deion in Boulder.



Sure, he lost some players, but he got a ton of big time recruits and some transfers too. I wouldn't say it's going sideways fast.


That hasn't worked well in Basketball which is a ton easier to integrate a group of new players. Think it's not a solid model for football at all
RE: Everyone shitting on Deion  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/16/2024 3:54 pm : link
In comment 16507628 penkap75 said:
[quote] But I see having an Ex-NFL, current College head coach father as positive. Its not like his father is some guy on the couch who thinks he knows football. [/quote

Zero issue w him other than I think it's fools gold to think brining in 30-40 new guys a year is going to work.
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