Missed FTs, missed layups, Deuce+Burk’s missed open 4th quarter looks, and fucking terrible defensive rebounding killed them in the fourth quarter.
Oh yeah and a complete travesty of officiating. The literal worst jumpball in the history of basketball and Hartenstein getting tackled on a Pacers drive were just two of the ridiculous plays.
I thought Thibs did a good job getting people rest (although I would’ve tried Precious over Hartenstein since he was doing jackshit for the most part). Normally Brunson would’ve cooked when he came back in but he just didn’t have it.
And after all of that, the Pacers needed a Nembhard miracle to win.
and look how the Knicks did, Pacers looked like they were in a 12 round fight, limping, exhausted...Knicks on the other hand walk off ready for another round..
Haliburton if he is not faking is waking up extremely sore this morning, at the endof the game he wanted nothing to do with that ball, he had nothing left to get by Divencenzo..
I think if Knicks come out with that 3rd quarter energy in game 4, Pacers i dont know how much they have left to fight back, they fought back last night, if this was at the Garden they probably dont...
with Knicks going small, Hart would stay with whoever was on the perimiter, so if Siakim was trying to post, Hartenstein took him and Hart went and took Turner...
It then allowed the Knicks to switch on the Hali/Turner pick and roll, Hartenstein though has to realize if Turner rolls he has to help, 9 times out of 10 he is not passing if he gets the ball on the roll
That’s the tough part. On the other hand, we proved we still have enough to win.
Exactly. Pretty much every playoff game has gone this way so far, last night the Pacers hit the big 3 and we went cold late. It happens, but fired up again with how hard this team fought. We’ve got every chance to take game 4 and get ready to deliver the knock out blow
scored 8 points in the last 9 min. Don’t tell me fatigue didn’t play a huge part.
At some point, all the minutes start to take their toll.
On the post game after game 2, Shaq and Barkley were saying exactly that. Its happened to Thibs’ teams in the past.
Now, with all the injuries, it’s taken their toll.
That being said, they’ve got a good chance Sun, and there’s a shot OG gives it a go Tue at the Garden.
scored 8 points in the last 9 min. Don’t tell me fatigue didn’t play a huge part.
At some point, all the minutes start to take their toll.
On the post game after game 2, Shaq and Barkley were saying exactly that. Its happened to Thibs’ teams in the past.
Now, with all the injuries, it’s taken their toll.
That being said, they’ve got a good chance Sun, and there’s a shot OG gives it a go Tue at the Garden.
The Knicks closer was also off last night, Brunson has a normal game Knicks win easily..
Pacers ran out of gas in the 4th as well and they are playing 9 guys
The Pacers got a very lucky 3 pointer and got the benefit
of some calls/non calls in the closing minutes. It happens. What the Knicks are doing with their injured/depleted team is nothing short of amazing. Shocked (but not shocked) that it doesn’t get discussed more in the media.
If the Pacers lost again, the focus would again be on whatever calls they felt they were screwed by. But not a peep about any of that in defense of the Knicks. It’s truly amazing how the Knicks - 50 game winner and #2 seed - are viewed as an afterthought.
I guarantee you - what Draymond Green said yesterday is what the entire basketball world thinks. The NBA, the players, the media - they are superstar whores. Example: bending over backwards to defend Embiid.
scored 8 points in the last 9 min. Don’t tell me fatigue didn’t play a huge part.
At some point, all the minutes start to take their toll.
On the post game after game 2, Shaq and Barkley were saying exactly that. Its happened to Thibs’ teams in the past.
Now, with all the injuries, it’s taken their toll.
That being said, they’ve got a good chance Sun, and there’s a shot OG gives it a go Tue at the Garden.
Fatigue played a part last night but it’s kind of bullshit to say this is some kind of Thibs problem. At some point what would you like this head coach to do? They’re down to 6 guys they would actually be use if the roster weren’t decimated, and as it was he went to Burks and Sims.
I’d rather be 2 games from the ECF with a bunch of tired guys? Or out after the first round? Those are likely the options Thibs had.
scored 8 points in the last 9 min. Don’t tell me fatigue didn’t play a huge part.
At some point, all the minutes start to take their toll.
On the post game after game 2, Shaq and Barkley were saying exactly that. Its happened to Thibs’ teams in the past.
Now, with all the injuries, it’s taken their toll.
That being said, they’ve got a good chance Sun, and there’s a shot OG gives it a go Tue at the Garden.
Fatigue played a part last night but it’s kind of bullshit to say this is some kind of Thibs problem. At some point what would you like this head coach to do? They’re down to 6 guys they would actually be use if the roster weren’t decimated, and as it was he went to Burks and Sims.
I’d rather be 2 games from the ECF with a bunch of tired guys? Or out after the first round? Those are likely the options Thibs had.
Botched that last point as I’m watching my son play t-ball but you get the point.
I thought the game actually changed when they brought Brunson
back in the fourth quarter. The offense was running fine through Dante in and then JB came in and was trying to do it all himself. Usually he's capable of that, but last night he was clearly hurting.
Not blaming Thibs, I'd go back to JB 10 times out of 10, but we'll need Brunson to dig deep through the pain if we're going to win this series going forward. Can't count on another Dante or Burks night like that. Although it would be nice if Deuce hit at least a couple more shots.
RE: The Pacers got a very lucky 3 pointer and got the benefit
of some calls/non calls in the closing minutes. It happens. What the Knicks are doing with their injured/depleted team is nothing short of amazing. Shocked (but not shocked) that it doesn’t get discussed more in the media.
If the Pacers lost again, the focus would again be on whatever calls they felt they were screwed by. But not a peep about any of that in defense of the Knicks. It’s truly amazing how the Knicks - 50 game winner and #2 seed - are viewed as an afterthought.
I guarantee you - what Draymond Green said yesterday is what the entire basketball world thinks. The NBA, the players, the media - they are superstar whores. Example: bending over backwards to defend Embiid.
To piggy back off this, you see the attitude of the Knicks after a loss like that they know they let one slip away but thing with this team is they use it and come back stringer the next game..
Game 5 in the sixers series they blow, game 6 they come out and take a 22 point lead..
Pacers are front runners, jf Knicks had anyrhing going last night in the 4th they win that game because the Pacers had nothing but a 3 point heave..
He's soft. He's not physical. He's not built for this.
Brunson also clearly not 100%. Missed a bunch he usually makes. He very clearly lacked quickness and explosion. As Thibs said postgame Nesmith has guarded him before and it's never looked like this. We obviously have no idea what this injury is but hopefully it's something that heels overtime as opposed to gets worse with use. Both are on the table.
Lot of small things went against us last night that probably won't carry over, but I do think they need a better plan against Siakam. I liked how they finished the game with iHart on Siakam and someone smaller on Turner. He has no post game. If he's not getting the ball down low he's not backing anyone down. OG actually would have been perfect for that assignment (like basically all other assignments but I digress).
Making a desperation three that nine times out of ten probably doesn’t go. And that was on top of Halliburton having a game he won’t likely come back with. Sometimes things just happen but it’s no indication of Pacers figuring anything out.
ESPN trying to make Aaron Nesmith’s defense into a thing
was certainly a choice. Meanwhile Brunson is missing shots he usually makes getting out of bed.
In the final three minutes…
- Deuce missed WIDE open three
- Hart missed free throw
- Missed Turner goaltend
- Back to back Pacers offensive rebounds
- DDV goaltending on shot that was NOT going in
- Brunson missed free throw
- Another Pacers offensive rebound precedes Nembhard miracle
Hartenstein grabbing just four defensive rebounds in nearly 40 minutes isn’t gonna cut it and I don’t give a shit how much attention he’s paying to Turner on the perimeter.
Feels like we let this one slip away from us. I know people will point to fatigue-& listen, I get it considering how undermanned we are with injures/Thibs has no other option but to play a shorter bench in the playoffs-but we missed some boards late, had some bad FT misses (For the love of God-and this goes back to the '90s-can we please-PLEASE-make FTs late?!?!?), some bad officiating, & a lucky 3 @ the end.
It is what it is. Still up 2-1. Win tomorrow & then close it out @ MSG...& hope that the Cavs can push the Cs & make that a long series so we get some time off.
that the emdia never mentions the Knicks injuries, never gives them credit for fighting through, all we heard wwas how Embiid was a warrior..
Guarantee if the Knicks lose this series, it will be the Knicks choked it away
The collective Pacers circle jerk for the first 10 minutes of the game was mind numbing. You would have thought the Knicks were the Washington Generals
Larger than that, the broader basketball media, some fans and even some players are being a bunch of fucking cry babies about how fired up New York fans are for our team. As the Knicks have sucked for 20 years while several small market teams have had success, I think they forgot that when it comes to basketball, any city outside NY is basically fucking Des Moines
that the emdia never mentions the Knicks injuries, never gives them credit for fighting through, all we heard wwas how Embiid was a warrior..
Guarantee if the Knicks lose this series, it will be the Knicks choked it away
The collective Pacers circle jerk for the first 10 minutes of the game was mind numbing. You would have thought the Knicks were the Washington Generals
Larger than that, the broader basketball media, some fans and even some players are being a bunch of fucking cry babies about how fired up New York fans are for our team. As the Knicks have sucked for 20 years while several small market teams have had success, I think they forgot that when it comes to basketball, any city outside NY is basically fucking Des Moines
They are going to be really mad when the Knicks add a star next to Brunson and keep this same core
is even more noticeable now that the Knicks are winning. They deserved to be clowned for most of the past 20 years, but there should be a shift happening now and it’s a little, um, slow to develop.
No matter how conditioned they are, they can’t be playing 45 min a
game. Basketball isn’t marathon, just because they don’t collapse on the court doesn’t mean they will be effective.
And Thibs needs to say something about how they are bodying up Brunson. He lingered on the court staring at the refs the other night, did he say anything in the press conference?
Need Deuce to have a big game. Let’s win tomorrow.
is even more noticeable now that the Knicks are winning. They deserved to be clowned for most of the past 20 years, but there should be a shift happening now and it’s a little, um, slow to develop.
When the Knicks add Donovan Mitchell in the offseason or another star, then the media will start to change their tune a little bit..
Right now they view the Knicks aals a try hard team
RE: No matter how conditioned they are, they can’t be playing 45 min a
game. Basketball isn’t marathon, just because they don’t collapse on the court doesn’t mean they will be effective.
And Thibs needs to say something about how they are bodying up Brunson. He lingered on the court staring at the refs the other night, did he say anything in the press conference?
Need Deuce to have a big game. Let’s win tomorrow.
You realize every top player in the playoffs plays 40 to 42 minutes sometimes more if needed..This idea the Knicks are the only team to do this is ridivulous and flat out wrong
So how do we quantify the cumulative effect of all the
starters playing 40 min plus for the entire playoff run? And they’ve been playing heavy minutes for pretty much the entire regular season. Every injury was a fluke? If half the team is ineffective or compromised for the next round or remainder of this run, then what? We have nobody on the bench we can play/trust because why?
You want to laud Thibs for developing Achiuwa when he plays well out of necessity but say nothing when he doesn’t play at all otherwise.
Let’s hope they advance and have something left in the tank against the Celts.
RE: So how do we quantify the cumulative effect of all the
starters playing 40 min plus for the entire playoff run? And they’ve been playing heavy minutes for pretty much the entire regular season. Every injury was a fluke? If half the team is ineffective or compromised for the next round or remainder of this run, then what? We have nobody on the bench we can play/trust because why?
You want to laud Thibs for developing Achiuwa when he plays well out of necessity but say nothing when he doesn’t play at all otherwise.
Let’s hope they advance and have something left in the tank against the Celts.
Do you just hate thibs?
How was Randles injury a minutes issue?
How was Bojans?
How was Mitch's?
Even OG's can bappen at anytime
RE: RE: So how do we quantify the cumulative effect of all the
starters playing 40 min plus for the entire playoff run? And they’ve been playing heavy minutes for pretty much the entire regular season. Every injury was a fluke? If half the team is ineffective or compromised for the next round or remainder of this run, then what? We have nobody on the bench we can play/trust because why?
You want to laud Thibs for developing Achiuwa when he plays well out of necessity but say nothing when he doesn’t play at all otherwise.
Let’s hope they advance and have something left in the tank against the Celts.
Do you just hate thibs?
How was Randles injury a minutes issue?
How was Bojans?
How was Mitch's?
Even OG's can bappen at anytime
Yeah the OG injury is the only one that is a soft tissue wear and tear type thing but he always missed games with Toronto and came here with an EP ow injury. 2 of the 4 injuries happened back in Dec/January. Listen Thibs is what he is, an excellent coach that has brought a sustainable winning culture back here for the first time since the Riley/Van Gundy era ( no coincidence he was on Riley's bench right
next to Van Gundy). Like Giants16 always says all the stars play 40+ minutes in a close game in the playoffs. It just so happens the other series have been filled with blowouts both ways whereas every Knicks game has seemingly gone down to the final minute. Yes last night looked like the first time they were gassed but then again so did Indy and they play 9. You know why? Because this is the first time Indy has had to play 3 close playoff games in a row. Almost every other game including the first 2 of this series we've been the stronger team in the 4th qtr. Why? BECAUSE of Thibs philosophy.
Giannis, Butler and Zion didn’t play any postseason games due to injury, Dame missed games, Porzingis is missing games, Luka, Jalen, Haliburton and Donovan Mitchell are all playing through pain - and we’re just beginning the second round! And those names are off the top of my head - I’m sure I’m missing a few others. If we were playing anyone but Indy, the OG injury would’ve been the final nail in our coffin. We’ll see if we can hang in there and get him back later.
RE: So how do we quantify the cumulative effect of all the
Funny thing about the Brunson stuff last night is Maxey did the same thing on the logo three the Knicks just didn’t foul and it happened to go in
I’m sure it’ll play out more over the summer but have you heard anything new about Booker? I imagine budenholzer was hired under the assumption the big 3 will be back but it wss always going to be up to Devin to force the trade.
Funny thing about the Brunson stuff last night is Maxey did the same thing on the logo three the Knicks just didn’t foul and it happened to go in
I’m sure it’ll play out more over the summer but have you heard anything new about Booker? I imagine budenholzer was hired under the assumption the big 3 will be back but it wss always going to be up to Devin to force the trade.
Not sure they can run it back and expect different results just because of the coach. I think Booker is smart enough to see that.
Good thing about Bridges is he’s never missed a game - that’s important with OG playing 50-60 games per year. Mixed feelings on Mitchell but he’s obviously an upgrade.
OG out for Game 4, Jalen not even on injury report.
Good thing about Bridges is he’s never missed a game - that’s important with OG playing 50-60 games per year. Mixed feelings on Mitchell but he’s obviously an upgrade.
Bridges is obviously a seamless fit, i think the cost will be higher than the players worth but the fit is perfect..
I have gone back and forth on Mitchell but if he is out there, go and grt him, no more playing around..
is even more noticeable now that the Knicks are winning. They deserved to be clowned for most of the past 20 years, but there should be a shift happening now and it’s a little, um, slow to develop.
When the Knicks add Donovan Mitchell in the offseason or another star, then the media will start to change their tune a little bit..
Right now they view the Knicks aals a try hard team
Not counting on it. ESPN was jerking off Indiana this AM when I was watching No OG and Julius and they still could have won and they act like Indy deserved huge credit giving none to the Knicks
Is that he's totally a 3's & layups system, and you have 3 stars on the team who live to pull up in the mid range. So something has to give there.
They would be dumb not to trade 1 of the 3, Beal is untradeable, so you can get the most from a durant or Booker trade..
the era kf Big 3's is desd and Phoenix needs to realize this
Yeah and they literally have no assets to rebuild besides dealing those guys. Honestly if I were them I'd deal Durant. He's aging and you can still get a decent package of picks and maybe a young rotational piece for him.
Game 3 is thr hardest gsme to get for the team up 2-0
I agree that looked really contrived
Yeah maybe the whole league can put the breaks on the plans for the TWolves championship parade
Have my wedding next month. Woulda been a nice 750$ extra
Oh yeah and a complete travesty of officiating. The literal worst jumpball in the history of basketball and Hartenstein getting tackled on a Pacers drive were just two of the ridiculous plays.
I thought Thibs did a good job getting people rest (although I would’ve tried Precious over Hartenstein since he was doing jackshit for the most part). Normally Brunson would’ve cooked when he came back in but he just didn’t have it.
And after all of that, the Pacers needed a Nembhard miracle to win.
Are you 12 years old? Seriously.
Haliburton if he is not faking is waking up extremely sore this morning, at the endof the game he wanted nothing to do with that ball, he had nothing left to get by Divencenzo..
I think if Knicks come out with that 3rd quarter energy in game 4, Pacers i dont know how much they have left to fight back, they fought back last night, if this was at the Garden they probably dont...
It then allowed the Knicks to switch on the Hali/Turner pick and roll, Hartenstein though has to realize if Turner rolls he has to help, 9 times out of 10 he is not passing if he gets the ball on the roll
Exactly. Pretty much every playoff game has gone this way so far, last night the Pacers hit the big 3 and we went cold late. It happens, but fired up again with how hard this team fought. We’ve got every chance to take game 4 and get ready to deliver the knock out blow
At some point, all the minutes start to take their toll.
On the post game after game 2, Shaq and Barkley were saying exactly that. Its happened to Thibs’ teams in the past.
Now, with all the injuries, it’s taken their toll.
That being said, they’ve got a good chance Sun, and there’s a shot OG gives it a go Tue at the Garden.
At some point, all the minutes start to take their toll.
On the post game after game 2, Shaq and Barkley were saying exactly that. Its happened to Thibs’ teams in the past.
Now, with all the injuries, it’s taken their toll.
That being said, they’ve got a good chance Sun, and there’s a shot OG gives it a go Tue at the Garden.
The Knicks closer was also off last night, Brunson has a normal game Knicks win easily..
Pacers ran out of gas in the 4th as well and they are playing 9 guys
If the Pacers lost again, the focus would again be on whatever calls they felt they were screwed by. But not a peep about any of that in defense of the Knicks. It’s truly amazing how the Knicks - 50 game winner and #2 seed - are viewed as an afterthought.
I guarantee you - what Draymond Green said yesterday is what the entire basketball world thinks. The NBA, the players, the media - they are superstar whores. Example: bending over backwards to defend Embiid.
At some point, all the minutes start to take their toll.
On the post game after game 2, Shaq and Barkley were saying exactly that. Its happened to Thibs’ teams in the past.
Now, with all the injuries, it’s taken their toll.
That being said, they’ve got a good chance Sun, and there’s a shot OG gives it a go Tue at the Garden.
Fatigue played a part last night but it’s kind of bullshit to say this is some kind of Thibs problem. At some point what would you like this head coach to do? They’re down to 6 guys they would actually be use if the roster weren’t decimated, and as it was he went to Burks and Sims.
I’d rather be 2 games from the ECF with a bunch of tired guys? Or out after the first round? Those are likely the options Thibs had.
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scored 8 points in the last 9 min. Don’t tell me fatigue didn’t play a huge part.
At some point, all the minutes start to take their toll.
On the post game after game 2, Shaq and Barkley were saying exactly that. Its happened to Thibs’ teams in the past.
Now, with all the injuries, it’s taken their toll.
That being said, they’ve got a good chance Sun, and there’s a shot OG gives it a go Tue at the Garden.
Fatigue played a part last night but it’s kind of bullshit to say this is some kind of Thibs problem. At some point what would you like this head coach to do? They’re down to 6 guys they would actually be use if the roster weren’t decimated, and as it was he went to Burks and Sims.
I’d rather be 2 games from the ECF with a bunch of tired guys? Or out after the first round? Those are likely the options Thibs had.
Botched that last point as I’m watching my son play t-ball but you get the point.
Not blaming Thibs, I'd go back to JB 10 times out of 10, but we'll need Brunson to dig deep through the pain if we're going to win this series going forward. Can't count on another Dante or Burks night like that. Although it would be nice if Deuce hit at least a couple more shots.
If the Pacers lost again, the focus would again be on whatever calls they felt they were screwed by. But not a peep about any of that in defense of the Knicks. It’s truly amazing how the Knicks - 50 game winner and #2 seed - are viewed as an afterthought.
I guarantee you - what Draymond Green said yesterday is what the entire basketball world thinks. The NBA, the players, the media - they are superstar whores. Example: bending over backwards to defend Embiid.
To piggy back off this, you see the attitude of the Knicks after a loss like that they know they let one slip away but thing with this team is they use it and come back stringer the next game..
Game 5 in the sixers series they blow, game 6 they come out and take a 22 point lead..
Pacers are front runners, jf Knicks had anyrhing going last night in the 4th they win that game because the Pacers had nothing but a 3 point heave..
Brunson also clearly not 100%. Missed a bunch he usually makes. He very clearly lacked quickness and explosion. As Thibs said postgame Nesmith has guarded him before and it's never looked like this. We obviously have no idea what this injury is but hopefully it's something that heels overtime as opposed to gets worse with use. Both are on the table.
Lot of small things went against us last night that probably won't carry over, but I do think they need a better plan against Siakam. I liked how they finished the game with iHart on Siakam and someone smaller on Turner. He has no post game. If he's not getting the ball down low he's not backing anyone down. OG actually would have been perfect for that assignment (like basically all other assignments but I digress).
Guarantee if the Knicks lose this series, it will be the Knicks choked it away
In the final three minutes…
- Deuce missed WIDE open three
- Hart missed free throw
- Missed Turner goaltend
- Back to back Pacers offensive rebounds
- DDV goaltending on shot that was NOT going in
- Brunson missed free throw
- Another Pacers offensive rebound precedes Nembhard miracle
Hartenstein grabbing just four defensive rebounds in nearly 40 minutes isn’t gonna cut it and I don’t give a shit how much attention he’s paying to Turner on the perimeter.
It is what it is. Still up 2-1. Win tomorrow & then close it out @ MSG...& hope that the Cavs can push the Cs & make that a long series so we get some time off.
Guarantee if the Knicks lose this series, it will be the Knicks choked it away
The collective Pacers circle jerk for the first 10 minutes of the game was mind numbing. You would have thought the Knicks were the Washington Generals
Larger than that, the broader basketball media, some fans and even some players are being a bunch of fucking cry babies about how fired up New York fans are for our team. As the Knicks have sucked for 20 years while several small market teams have had success, I think they forgot that when it comes to basketball, any city outside NY is basically fucking Des Moines
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that the emdia never mentions the Knicks injuries, never gives them credit for fighting through, all we heard wwas how Embiid was a warrior..
Guarantee if the Knicks lose this series, it will be the Knicks choked it away
The collective Pacers circle jerk for the first 10 minutes of the game was mind numbing. You would have thought the Knicks were the Washington Generals
Larger than that, the broader basketball media, some fans and even some players are being a bunch of fucking cry babies about how fired up New York fans are for our team. As the Knicks have sucked for 20 years while several small market teams have had success, I think they forgot that when it comes to basketball, any city outside NY is basically fucking Des Moines
They are going to be really mad when the Knicks add a star next to Brunson and keep this same core
And Thibs needs to say something about how they are bodying up Brunson. He lingered on the court staring at the refs the other night, did he say anything in the press conference?
Need Deuce to have a big game. Let’s win tomorrow.
When the Knicks add Donovan Mitchell in the offseason or another star, then the media will start to change their tune a little bit..
Right now they view the Knicks aals a try hard team
And Thibs needs to say something about how they are bodying up Brunson. He lingered on the court staring at the refs the other night, did he say anything in the press conference?
Need Deuce to have a big game. Let’s win tomorrow.
You realize every top player in the playoffs plays 40 to 42 minutes sometimes more if needed..This idea the Knicks are the only team to do this is ridivulous and flat out wrong
You want to laud Thibs for developing Achiuwa when he plays well out of necessity but say nothing when he doesn’t play at all otherwise.
Let’s hope they advance and have something left in the tank against the Celts.
You want to laud Thibs for developing Achiuwa when he plays well out of necessity but say nothing when he doesn’t play at all otherwise.
Let’s hope they advance and have something left in the tank against the Celts.
Do you just hate thibs?
How was Randles injury a minutes issue?
How was Bojans?
How was Mitch's?
Even OG's can bappen at anytime
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starters playing 40 min plus for the entire playoff run? And they’ve been playing heavy minutes for pretty much the entire regular season. Every injury was a fluke? If half the team is ineffective or compromised for the next round or remainder of this run, then what? We have nobody on the bench we can play/trust because why?
You want to laud Thibs for developing Achiuwa when he plays well out of necessity but say nothing when he doesn’t play at all otherwise.
Let’s hope they advance and have something left in the tank against the Celts.
Do you just hate thibs?
How was Randles injury a minutes issue?
How was Bojans?
How was Mitch's?
Even OG's can bappen at anytime
Yeah the OG injury is the only one that is a soft tissue wear and tear type thing but he always missed games with Toronto and came here with an EP ow injury. 2 of the 4 injuries happened back in Dec/January. Listen Thibs is what he is, an excellent coach that has brought a sustainable winning culture back here for the first time since the Riley/Van Gundy era ( no coincidence he was on Riley's bench right
next to Van Gundy). Like Giants16 always says all the stars play 40+ minutes in a close game in the playoffs. It just so happens the other series have been filled with blowouts both ways whereas every Knicks game has seemingly gone down to the final minute. Yes last night looked like the first time they were gassed but then again so did Indy and they play 9. You know why? Because this is the first time Indy has had to play 3 close playoff games in a row. Almost every other game including the first 2 of this series we've been the stronger team in the 4th qtr. Why? BECAUSE of Thibs philosophy.
We could have a full tank and still lose to the Celtics due to a talent gap.
I’m sure it’ll play out more over the summer but have you heard anything new about Booker? I imagine budenholzer was hired under the assumption the big 3 will be back but it wss always going to be up to Devin to force the trade.
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Funny thing about the Brunson stuff last night is Maxey did the same thing on the logo three the Knicks just didn’t foul and it happened to go in
I’m sure it’ll play out more over the summer but have you heard anything new about Booker? I imagine budenholzer was hired under the assumption the big 3 will be back but it wss always going to be up to Devin to force the trade.
Not sure they can run it back and expect different results just because of the coach. I think Booker is smart enough to see that.
Not sure yet if he gets traded
Nesmith is also questionable with a shoulder injury
Bridges is obviously a seamless fit, i think the cost will be higher than the players worth but the fit is perfect..
I have gone back and forth on Mitchell but if he is out there, go and grt him, no more playing around..
The guy i still would love is Paul George..
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is even more noticeable now that the Knicks are winning. They deserved to be clowned for most of the past 20 years, but there should be a shift happening now and it’s a little, um, slow to develop.
When the Knicks add Donovan Mitchell in the offseason or another star, then the media will start to change their tune a little bit..
Right now they view the Knicks aals a try hard team
Not counting on it. ESPN was jerking off Indiana this AM when I was watching No OG and Julius and they still could have won and they act like Indy deserved huge credit giving none to the Knicks
They would be dumb not to trade 1 of the 3, Beal is untradeable, so you can get the most from a durant or Booker trade..
the era kf Big 3's is desd and Phoenix needs to realize this
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Is that he's totally a 3's & layups system, and you have 3 stars on the team who live to pull up in the mid range. So something has to give there.
They would be dumb not to trade 1 of the 3, Beal is untradeable, so you can get the most from a durant or Booker trade..
the era kf Big 3's is desd and Phoenix needs to realize this
Yeah and they literally have no assets to rebuild besides dealing those guys. Honestly if I were them I'd deal Durant. He's aging and you can still get a decent package of picks and maybe a young rotational piece for him.