In terms of NY sports disasters? In my life, the 2 that would stick out as worse are the 2004 Yanks and the NYG blowing that lead in SF. Would this be worse than the Knicks losing in ‘93 (Charles Smith game)?
RE: IF it were to happen, where would a loss in this series rank
In terms of NY sports disasters? In my life, the 2 that would stick out as worse are the 2004 Yanks and the NYG blowing that lead in SF. Would this be worse than the Knicks losing in ‘93 (Charles Smith game)?
Maybe throw in Mets losing to an inferior LAD in ‘88.
Not a single fucking person on the team played well.
However I don’t blame Shesty because they easily could’ve been down 3 goals after the first period.
The decision making with the puck was baffling. Guys incessantly forcing the puck into the middle of the ice was driving me crazy. The asinine passes on the PP made no sense. Bread falling asleep in the defensive zone cost them a goal for the second consecutive game. No physicality whatsoever.
They really need to get their heads out of their asses.
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.
And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.
All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.
The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.
And who the fuck are you?
Anakim - who are you other than the biggest dork on this board? You guys legitimately think that your fave sport teams are going to play spotless every game and then you whine like 5 year olds when it doesnt happen. Then bitch - then change your mind on them when they prove something to you.
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.
And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.
All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.
The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
Fair enough. I don't usually play the individual blame game in hockey. Maybe being a former player I hate it, and normally players don't think that way even if fans do. Sometimes I will explain my interpretation of whose guy it was that scored, or the sequence of events that led to the goal IMO. Hockey is the epitome of a team sport and while occasionally things do happen where one individual does something that directly leads to an opposing team goal, most of the time a lot of bad things happened that led to the goal.
Now, all that said, if I were forced to make a list of why the Rangers lost tonight IMO, Trouba would be near the bottom, but most of you want a lynching. it's like a social contagion. The money he gets paid doesn't change the contribution IMO to wins or losses.
My immediate pessimistic reaction is that we are now going to lose this series. At this point, I think its a lock to go 7, and that game 7 will be a coin flip. This feels like the brink of a disaster -- and while one part of this is that the Rangers find a way to fuck up in the playoffs, the other ius that Carolina is VERY good and we were up 3-0 due to some puck luck anyway.
I know Carolinas game is to live in the other team's zone and throw shit at the net, but at the beginning of this series, we looked like we were playing THEIR game and winningb by counterpunching/making them pay. Now, we're LETTING them play their game and dictate play. They're imposing it onto us.
Fox looks so fucking hurt out there.
Panarin has looked lazy at times in the last couple games. Getting beat to the puck cost us a goal in game 4. Tonight, once again, he was beat to the puck.
Mika and Chris played very poorly tonight.
Third line was not the shutdown beasts theyve been recently.
The powerplay is in complete discombubulation, and what's strange is that Carolina doesn't seem to be doing anything that differently. I guess they are playing slightly more aggressively but they were aggressive on the PK in the first few games also, they just got burned for it. There's no structure, it seems to be all chaos, we don't set up.
As an aside, and as a Rangers and somewhat Nets fan (basically, not a Knicks fan), lumping the Rangers and Knicks in the same category is ridiculous. Neither have won a championship but the Rangers have been lightyears better than the Knicks since the 05 lockout.
i'm so fucking pissed right now, and disappointed, i truly don't know how to shake it.
roslovic looked like the best player on the zib line tonight
but considering the rangers have an inability to hold the puck, would it be nuts to move kappo off the third line and onto the zib line, at least for some shifts? at least he can hold the puck and bring it in the zone when he gets it. having said that, roslovic was doing a good job with his speed of doing the same thing, but I don't think he's as good as possessing it as kappo.
thats probably an awful idea but just thinking aloud.
we desperately need chytil back.
and at this point, you can't play rempe if he's just not gonna play (although I don't think there's any plans to play him from here on out anyway. he doesn't play in carolina and he isn't gonna suit up for a game 7)
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
for me at least, it's more a "respect for how good carolina" thing than "fuck the Rangers" thing
RE: RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
for me at least, it's more a "respect for how good carolina" thing than "fuck the Rangers" thing
totally fair, CAR is a great team. It's hard to find two teams closer in their division than NYR and CAR this past season. I like Igor though, and I think he's makes the difference in this series.
RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
If Jacob Trouba is your "top performer" on offense, yes lol there is no confidence heading into game 6. I 100% respect the hell out of Carolina, also.
As for the 2004 Yankees comparisons, that was 4 years after the last time they won their 4th WS in 5 years with their "unit" of the dynasty teams still around, Jeter, MO, Posada, Bernie, still around so it was a bit more stunning and infuriating at the same time against a long time arch rival, and on top of that to send them into the world Series and break their 86-year curse?
If this were to happen, I'd just laugh for a few seconds and roll my eyes and say ya same old joker Rangers. I'll attend games and whatnot (I love live hockey) but I haven't taken them seriously or gotten "hopes up" since 2015. Nope.
no urgency, no jump. Like the playing San Jose in January instead a chance to close out a really good team to advance.
Game 7 is now a real possibility.
Rangers are 7-2 in the playoffs. This isn't the Capitals they're playing. And God as my witness, last night before the game I had this eerie feeling the Rangers lose this one and win in Carolina.
Our team sucked in the 3rd. Like the Knicks Game 5 loss to close out Philly in round 1, I have no doubt this series ends next game. If not, win at home in game 7. Either way, I don't see this team losing to Carolina 4 games in a row.
from Kreider on the 1st CAR goal. Like with most things in sports people sometimes recognize the last thing to happen when a bad play happens against you, but often there is a series of events that lead to it. I'm not blaming Kreider for the goal, but this play doesn't happen if he bodies Orlov. Or at least stops. Orlov has so much time he waits for the CAR forwards to get onsides and and goes cross ice to Staal. It's a good 3 seconds while Kreider circles through the neutral zone, kind of nonchalantly. Kreider is not even in the picture in the last screen grab. That play didn't allow Schneider to change and he got caught flat-footed deep in his zone and Miller had to stay where he was to protect pass. Hung Igor out to dry.
Puck battle with Drury that Trouba wins. Mika and Kreider are in good position. Trouba should rim it around to Kreider or lay it up for Mika going behind the net. Due to the forecheck Trouba doesn't get wood on it. Good forecheck by Drury.
You can see the puck behind the net in the 2nd screen grab. That is Mika's puck. It's slightly misleading because the puck is moving. Away from Mika, but it's moving slowly - kind of how Mika is skating. Which of the three people get the loose puck? Kreider, Mika or Necas? Necas, of course - he's moving his feet.
Neither Mika or Kreider get a body on Necas, nor do they get in the passing lane. And I have no idea what Gus is doing on the half wall leaving two guys alone in front.
Point is not to take blame away from anyone or add it to someone else, my point is to highlight with almost every goal a lot happens that cause the breakdowns.
that Carolina was picked to win this series, and come out of the East?
How many people know that since the trade deadline (when they added offense to their lineup), that Carolina has been the best team in the league.
I thought this would be a 7 game series. Carolina's play will be different in game 7. (they will have "caught up in the series, and the amount of mental and physical energy it would have taken, takes its toll.)
I think they will smoke us in game 6, but we will prevail in a game 7.
There is not much separation between both teams.
I give credit to Canes for out skating and being faster to the puck in most situations.
They have outplayed us but Igor has been our savior.
Playoffs are all about forechecking and back checking and so
far we have failed.
Our failure to get out of our defensive zone cleanly looms large.
Finally, on our PP the Canes have been much more aggressive causing us to make sloppy passes.
Having said that all it takes is one more win to move forward.
LGR!!!
sucks for us fans. But it's an extra day of rest for the Rangers. I firmly, firmly, FIRMLY believe this ends on Thursday. No idea why, just a gut feeling.
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Kreider's quote reeks of the loser mentality that still permeates through this team in these situations. That quote pissed me off to no end. That type of mentality is why they lost to the Devils last year after being up 2-0 and lost to Tampa after being up 2-0 in the ECF in 2022. "Oh well, who would have thought we'd up 3-2 in this series, we'll take it". Then Trocheck says Carolina wanted it more, how can you not want it more when you can end a series?
No, gutless effort, they tried to sit on a one goal lead instead of attacking and taking the body and keeping pressure on Carolina to CLOSE OUT THE SERIES. You cannot continuously dump the puck out to the neutral zone, change lines and let the other team come with a full head of steam into your zone time after time before it catches up with you. Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba (outside of his goal), were all atrocious last night.
Not all 3-2 series leads are the same, this version doesn't feel too good. Up 1 going into the 3rd period at home with a chance to clinch the series and the best goalie in the world on the ice. Rangers were not able to even remotely match the Carolina level of intensity, and for the first time I'm genuinely concerned. Even if the 3rd period was a grind it out kind of period where Carolina got a late goal with the goalie pulled and then won in OT, or something to that effect, I would feel much better, but the Rangers got blown out of their own building in the biggest period of the season. The PP looks completely lost, Panarin has disappeared or worse (his "back check" on the Kuznetsov goal was pathetic), and Fox is clearly playing at maybe 70%.
That all said, I am not giving up because I still do not see this team losing 4 games in a row to anybody. I think the extra day of rest will help them to reset after a pathetic performance last night. Rangers have answered every bell this year when pressed, I see no reason they won't here.
sucks for us fans. But it's an extra day of rest for the Rangers. I firmly, firmly, FIRMLY believe this ends on Thursday. No idea why, just a gut feeling.
I feel the same way, the extra day blunts some of the Canes momentum and hopefully gives the Rangers a chance to recharge a little bit.
I understand the pessimism permeating the thread here, but the 2023-24 Rangers have answered every question so far, and they weren't just going to skate thru the playoffs without adversity.
We're going to find out a lot about this group on Thursday.
This is the beauty and agony of sports! This series features two of the best 4 teams in the league (Florida and Dallas the others in my opinion), we knew the Canes were never going to lie down and die. Rangers have won in Raleigh before and they can do it again. Hopefully Chytil comes back to give the bottom 6 a little more scoring punch, and the extra day off gives them a chance to reset after a rough game. This series has been a microcosm of the season, really. Rangers got off to a huge lead, Carolina hung around, and ultimately the Rangers prevailed. I know it's against all conventional wisdom, but I really do think the Rangers are going to close the door on Thursday.
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Kreider's quote reeks of the loser mentality that still permeates through this team in these situations. That quote pissed me off to no end. That type of mentality is why they lost to the Devils last year after being up 2-0 and lost to Tampa after being up 2-0 in the ECF in 2022. "Oh well, who would have thought we'd up 3-2 in this series, we'll take it". Then Trocheck says Carolina wanted it more, how can you not want it more when you can end a series?
No, gutless effort, they tried to sit on a one goal lead instead of attacking and taking the body and keeping pressure on Carolina to CLOSE OUT THE SERIES. You cannot continuously dump the puck out to the neutral zone, change lines and let the other team come with a full head of steam into your zone time after time before it catches up with you. Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba (outside of his goal), were all atrocious last night.
That's the point exactly. It's not that they lost, it's that they didn't show up. Trocheck's comment was very telling. As I wrote earlier, it was a disgraceful "effort".
I really think that Jones should be getting a look over Gustafsson.
Gustafsson is a fine player with a solid career and experience, but he's been poor in this series and has had a number of very costly instances of puck-watching and/or being out of position.
There's nothing about Gus's game that you worry about "missing" by sitting him, and it's hard to envision a scenario where you're looking back at the situation and saying "man, we really gave that one away by playing Jones over Gus".
Not to mention the fact that Jones played really, really well in his extended look due to injuries and that this is an opportunity to get playoff experience for a guy who should be very much in the plan to slide into Gus' spot when they let him walk in FA (which they definitely should).
I really think that Jones should be getting a look over Gustafsson.
Gustafsson is a fine player with a solid career and experience, but he's been poor in this series and has had a number of very costly instances of puck-watching and/or being out of position.
There's nothing about Gus's game that you worry about "missing" by sitting him, and it's hard to envision a scenario where you're looking back at the situation and saying "man, we really gave that one away by playing Jones over Gus".
Not to mention the fact that Jones played really, really well in his extended look due to injuries and that this is an opportunity to get playoff experience for a guy who should be very much in the plan to slide into Gus' spot when they let him walk in FA (which they definitely should).
I agree 100% with this. One of the things the Rangers have struggled with is getting the puck out of their own end. Jones is a good puck mover with mobility, and can easily take Gus's place on PP2 as well. Jones and Trouba have also played very well together in their limited run together.
Or, if Chytil can't go Thursday, maybe you go 11F/7D. Rempe can't play in Raleigh, Brodzinski is a marginal NHL player. Jones has an element to his game that is legitimately an area where they struggle. I'm not usually a fan of 11F/7D, but I think it makes sense if Chytil isn't able to play.
to Vally, the Rangers had 1 high percentage chance last night. The whole team was floating. Vally - ( New Window )
I think that is low, seeing as the Trouba goal is the 1 high danger chance on Clear Sight. They had other chances. Not many, but they did have more than the 1. Natural Stat Trick had it 13-5 Carolina in HDCF, which I think is more in line with what I saw.
I'm pretty sure my 73 year old mother could knock him off the puck.
The Wennberg line was a great shutdown line for the first few games, and was effective on the forecheck, but that has not been the case the past few games. I had written Chytil off for this season, but at this point, I am not sure how far they can go without injecting some offensive production to the bottom 6.
here's LAST years Western Conference Finals. Vegas went up 3-0 against Dallas. Vegas barely lost game 4 in OT. Got drubbed game 5. Blasted the Stars game 6 when Dallas ran out of gas.
Golden Knights win series, 4-2
Game 1: Golden Knights 4, Stars 3 (OT)
Game 2: Golden Knights 3, Stars 2 (OT)
Game 3: Golden Knights 4, Stars 0
Game 4: Stars 3, Golden Knights 2 (OT)
Game 5: Stars 4, Golden Knights 2
Game 6: Golden Knights 6, Stars 0
So.. you doomers. Man the hell up, grab your pair and lets handle business this Thursday. Rangers in 6.
here's LAST years Western Conference Finals. Vegas went up 3-0 against Dallas. Vegas barely lost game 4 in OT. Got drubbed game 5. Blasted the Stars game 6 when Dallas ran out of gas.
Golden Knights win series, 4-2
Game 1: Golden Knights 4, Stars 3 (OT)
Game 2: Golden Knights 3, Stars 2 (OT)
Game 3: Golden Knights 4, Stars 0
Game 4: Stars 3, Golden Knights 2 (OT)
Game 5: Stars 4, Golden Knights 2
Game 6: Golden Knights 6, Stars 0
So.. you doomers. Man the hell up, grab your pair and lets handle business this Thursday. Rangers in 6.
Love it, it can be hard to be positive after losing 2 elimination games in a row, but it's a good reminder that just last year, the eventual Cup winners did just that. I think I'm going to throw money down on Rangers -1.5 Thursday!
Maybe throw in Mets losing to an inferior LAD in ‘88.
The decision making with the puck was baffling. Guys incessantly forcing the puck into the middle of the ice was driving me crazy. The asinine passes on the PP made no sense. Bread falling asleep in the defensive zone cost them a goal for the second consecutive game. No physicality whatsoever.
They really need to get their heads out of their asses.
#2 9 GP, 1G/3A 4 pts, +1, 12 PIM, 32 hits, 41 blocked shots
#3 9 GP, 0G/4A 4 pts, 0 +/- 6 PIM, 6 hits, 18 blocked shots
#4 9 GP, 0G/1A 1 pts, 0 +/- 14 PIM, 16 hits, 14 blocked shots
#5 9 GP, 0G/3A 3 pts, -2, 4 PIM, 15 hits, 5 blocked shots
#6 9 GP, 0G/0A 0 pts, 0 +/1 4 PIM, 9 hits, 10 blocked shots
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.
And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.
All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.
The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
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But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.
And who the fuck are you?
Anakim - who are you other than the biggest dork on this board? You guys legitimately think that your fave sport teams are going to play spotless every game and then you whine like 5 year olds when it doesnt happen. Then bitch - then change your mind on them when they prove something to you.
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#1 9 GP, 1G/1A 2 pts, +2 2 PIM, 16 hits, 12 blocked shots
#2 9 GP, 1G/3A 4 pts, +1, 12 PIM, 32 hits, 41 blocked shots
#3 9 GP, 0G/4A 4 pts, 0 +/- 6 PIM, 6 hits, 18 blocked shots
#4 9 GP, 0G/1A 1 pts, 0 +/- 14 PIM, 16 hits, 14 blocked shots
#5 9 GP, 0G/3A 3 pts, -2, 4 PIM, 15 hits, 5 blocked shots
#6 9 GP, 0G/0A 0 pts, 0 +/1 4 PIM, 9 hits, 10 blocked shots
everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?
You are unhinged right now, take a breath.
2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.
And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.
All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.
The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
Fair enough. I don't usually play the individual blame game in hockey. Maybe being a former player I hate it, and normally players don't think that way even if fans do. Sometimes I will explain my interpretation of whose guy it was that scored, or the sequence of events that led to the goal IMO. Hockey is the epitome of a team sport and while occasionally things do happen where one individual does something that directly leads to an opposing team goal, most of the time a lot of bad things happened that led to the goal.
Now, all that said, if I were forced to make a list of why the Rangers lost tonight IMO, Trouba would be near the bottom, but most of you want a lynching. it's like a social contagion. The money he gets paid doesn't change the contribution IMO to wins or losses.
My immediate pessimistic reaction is that we are now going to lose this series. At this point, I think its a lock to go 7, and that game 7 will be a coin flip. This feels like the brink of a disaster -- and while one part of this is that the Rangers find a way to fuck up in the playoffs, the other ius that Carolina is VERY good and we were up 3-0 due to some puck luck anyway.
I know Carolinas game is to live in the other team's zone and throw shit at the net, but at the beginning of this series, we looked like we were playing THEIR game and winningb by counterpunching/making them pay. Now, we're LETTING them play their game and dictate play. They're imposing it onto us.
Fox looks so fucking hurt out there.
Panarin has looked lazy at times in the last couple games. Getting beat to the puck cost us a goal in game 4. Tonight, once again, he was beat to the puck.
Mika and Chris played very poorly tonight.
Third line was not the shutdown beasts theyve been recently.
The powerplay is in complete discombubulation, and what's strange is that Carolina doesn't seem to be doing anything that differently. I guess they are playing slightly more aggressively but they were aggressive on the PK in the first few games also, they just got burned for it. There's no structure, it seems to be all chaos, we don't set up.
As an aside, and as a Rangers and somewhat Nets fan (basically, not a Knicks fan), lumping the Rangers and Knicks in the same category is ridiculous. Neither have won a championship but the Rangers have been lightyears better than the Knicks since the 05 lockout.
i'm so fucking pissed right now, and disappointed, i truly don't know how to shake it.
thats probably an awful idea but just thinking aloud.
we desperately need chytil back.
and at this point, you can't play rempe if he's just not gonna play (although I don't think there's any plans to play him from here on out anyway. he doesn't play in carolina and he isn't gonna suit up for a game 7)
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
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there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
for me at least, it's more a "respect for how good carolina" thing than "fuck the Rangers" thing
totally fair, CAR is a great team. It's hard to find two teams closer in their division than NYR and CAR this past season. I like Igor though, and I think he's makes the difference in this series.
You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
If Jacob Trouba is your "top performer" on offense, yes lol there is no confidence heading into game 6. I 100% respect the hell out of Carolina, also.
If this were to happen, I'd just laugh for a few seconds and roll my eyes and say ya same old joker Rangers. I'll attend games and whatnot (I love live hockey) but I haven't taken them seriously or gotten "hopes up" since 2015. Nope.
Sweeping Carolina was an illusion.
Still a lot of hockey left. Now we learn about the heart of this team.
LGR!!!
Let’s go Rangers.
Game 7 is now a real possibility.
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Rangers are 7-2 in the playoffs. This isn't the Capitals they're playing. And God as my witness, last night before the game I had this eerie feeling the Rangers lose this one and win in Carolina.
Our team sucked in the 3rd. Like the Knicks Game 5 loss to close out Philly in round 1, I have no doubt this series ends next game. If not, win at home in game 7. Either way, I don't see this team losing to Carolina 4 games in a row.
Gonna frame this one.
Puck battle with Drury that Trouba wins. Mika and Kreider are in good position. Trouba should rim it around to Kreider or lay it up for Mika going behind the net. Due to the forecheck Trouba doesn't get wood on it. Good forecheck by Drury.
You can see the puck behind the net in the 2nd screen grab. That is Mika's puck. It's slightly misleading because the puck is moving. Away from Mika, but it's moving slowly - kind of how Mika is skating. Which of the three people get the loose puck? Kreider, Mika or Necas? Necas, of course - he's moving his feet.
Neither Mika or Kreider get a body on Necas, nor do they get in the passing lane. And I have no idea what Gus is doing on the half wall leaving two guys alone in front.
Point is not to take blame away from anyone or add it to someone else, my point is to highlight with almost every goal a lot happens that cause the breakdowns.
How many people know that since the trade deadline (when they added offense to their lineup), that Carolina has been the best team in the league.
I thought this would be a 7 game series. Carolina's play will be different in game 7. (they will have "caught up in the series, and the amount of mental and physical energy it would have taken, takes its toll.)
I think they will smoke us in game 6, but we will prevail in a game 7.
I give credit to Canes for out skating and being faster to the puck in most situations.
They have outplayed us but Igor has been our savior.
Playoffs are all about forechecking and back checking and so
far we have failed.
Our failure to get out of our defensive zone cleanly looms large.
Finally, on our PP the Canes have been much more aggressive causing us to make sloppy passes.
Having said that all it takes is one more win to move forward.
LGR!!!
Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Kreider's quote reeks of the loser mentality that still permeates through this team in these situations. That quote pissed me off to no end. That type of mentality is why they lost to the Devils last year after being up 2-0 and lost to Tampa after being up 2-0 in the ECF in 2022. "Oh well, who would have thought we'd up 3-2 in this series, we'll take it". Then Trocheck says Carolina wanted it more, how can you not want it more when you can end a series?
No, gutless effort, they tried to sit on a one goal lead instead of attacking and taking the body and keeping pressure on Carolina to CLOSE OUT THE SERIES. You cannot continuously dump the puck out to the neutral zone, change lines and let the other team come with a full head of steam into your zone time after time before it catches up with you. Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba (outside of his goal), were all atrocious last night.
That all said, I am not giving up because I still do not see this team losing 4 games in a row to anybody. I think the extra day of rest will help them to reset after a pathetic performance last night. Rangers have answered every bell this year when pressed, I see no reason they won't here.
I feel the same way, the extra day blunts some of the Canes momentum and hopefully gives the Rangers a chance to recharge a little bit.
I understand the pessimism permeating the thread here, but the 2023-24 Rangers have answered every question so far, and they weren't just going to skate thru the playoffs without adversity.
We're going to find out a lot about this group on Thursday.
This is the beauty and agony of sports! This series features two of the best 4 teams in the league (Florida and Dallas the others in my opinion), we knew the Canes were never going to lie down and die. Rangers have won in Raleigh before and they can do it again. Hopefully Chytil comes back to give the bottom 6 a little more scoring punch, and the extra day off gives them a chance to reset after a rough game. This series has been a microcosm of the season, really. Rangers got off to a huge lead, Carolina hung around, and ultimately the Rangers prevailed. I know it's against all conventional wisdom, but I really do think the Rangers are going to close the door on Thursday.
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Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.
Win 1 of 2.
Go get it.
Kreider's quote reeks of the loser mentality that still permeates through this team in these situations. That quote pissed me off to no end. That type of mentality is why they lost to the Devils last year after being up 2-0 and lost to Tampa after being up 2-0 in the ECF in 2022. "Oh well, who would have thought we'd up 3-2 in this series, we'll take it". Then Trocheck says Carolina wanted it more, how can you not want it more when you can end a series?
No, gutless effort, they tried to sit on a one goal lead instead of attacking and taking the body and keeping pressure on Carolina to CLOSE OUT THE SERIES. You cannot continuously dump the puck out to the neutral zone, change lines and let the other team come with a full head of steam into your zone time after time before it catches up with you. Zibanejad, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck, Trouba (outside of his goal), were all atrocious last night.
That's the point exactly. It's not that they lost, it's that they didn't show up. Trocheck's comment was very telling. As I wrote earlier, it was a disgraceful "effort".
Gustafsson is a fine player with a solid career and experience, but he's been poor in this series and has had a number of very costly instances of puck-watching and/or being out of position.
There's nothing about Gus's game that you worry about "missing" by sitting him, and it's hard to envision a scenario where you're looking back at the situation and saying "man, we really gave that one away by playing Jones over Gus".
Not to mention the fact that Jones played really, really well in his extended look due to injuries and that this is an opportunity to get playoff experience for a guy who should be very much in the plan to slide into Gus' spot when they let him walk in FA (which they definitely should).
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Gustafsson is a fine player with a solid career and experience, but he's been poor in this series and has had a number of very costly instances of puck-watching and/or being out of position.
There's nothing about Gus's game that you worry about "missing" by sitting him, and it's hard to envision a scenario where you're looking back at the situation and saying "man, we really gave that one away by playing Jones over Gus".
Not to mention the fact that Jones played really, really well in his extended look due to injuries and that this is an opportunity to get playoff experience for a guy who should be very much in the plan to slide into Gus' spot when they let him walk in FA (which they definitely should).
I agree 100% with this. One of the things the Rangers have struggled with is getting the puck out of their own end. Jones is a good puck mover with mobility, and can easily take Gus's place on PP2 as well. Jones and Trouba have also played very well together in their limited run together.
Or, if Chytil can't go Thursday, maybe you go 11F/7D. Rempe can't play in Raleigh, Brodzinski is a marginal NHL player. Jones has an element to his game that is legitimately an area where they struggle. I'm not usually a fan of 11F/7D, but I think it makes sense if Chytil isn't able to play.
I think that is low, seeing as the Trouba goal is the 1 high danger chance on Clear Sight. They had other chances. Not many, but they did have more than the 1. Natural Stat Trick had it 13-5 Carolina in HDCF, which I think is more in line with what I saw.
The Wennberg line was a great shutdown line for the first few games, and was effective on the forecheck, but that has not been the case the past few games. I had written Chytil off for this season, but at this point, I am not sure how far they can go without injecting some offensive production to the bottom 6.
I currently have six tabs open looking at tickets for Thursday night.
Jacob Trouba
Brett I have backed you 100%. If you don't bring home Game 6, I'll take Game 7.
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So who's starting Thursday's thread?
Brett I have backed you 100%. If you don't bring home Game 6, I'll take Game 7.
You got it.
Golden Knights win series, 4-2
Game 1: Golden Knights 4, Stars 3 (OT)
Game 2: Golden Knights 3, Stars 2 (OT)
Game 3: Golden Knights 4, Stars 0
Game 4: Stars 3, Golden Knights 2 (OT)
Game 5: Stars 4, Golden Knights 2
Game 6: Golden Knights 6, Stars 0
So.. you doomers. Man the hell up, grab your pair and lets handle business this Thursday. Rangers in 6.
Golden Knights win series, 4-2
Game 1: Golden Knights 4, Stars 3 (OT)
Game 2: Golden Knights 3, Stars 2 (OT)
Game 3: Golden Knights 4, Stars 0
Game 4: Stars 3, Golden Knights 2 (OT)
Game 5: Stars 4, Golden Knights 2
Game 6: Golden Knights 6, Stars 0
So.. you doomers. Man the hell up, grab your pair and lets handle business this Thursday. Rangers in 6.
Love it, it can be hard to be positive after losing 2 elimination games in a row, but it's a good reminder that just last year, the eventual Cup winners did just that. I think I'm going to throw money down on Rangers -1.5 Thursday!
-13 times the team won in 6
-4 times the team won in 7
-4 times the team lost in 7
-13 times the team won in 6
-4 times the team won in 7
-4 times the team lost in 7
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-13 times the team won in 6
-5 times the team won in 7
-4 times the team lost in 7