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BrettNYG10 : 5/13/2024 8:04 am
Good morning, Carl.

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Good morning Brett  
Carl in CT : 5/13/2024 8:14 am : link
Let’s go Rangers! No way was I not going to post. Time to kick the Whalers ass!
Finish This Off  
Costy16 : 5/13/2024 8:19 am : link
Wonder if it will be Chytil, Brodz or Rempe.

Rangers need to get off to fast start and get in on the forecheck early.
I'm hoping it's Chytil...  
BC Eagles94 : 5/13/2024 8:48 am : link
because if it's not, that likely means it wasn't a simple illness and it's concussion related...and we won't see him again these playoffs, if ever.

If not Chytil...it's a tough call. Brodzinski is a better hockey player than Remoe and will play a few more minutes than Rempe. But the Rangers record with Rempe is incredible. So there has to be something to it. And you know the Canes don't want him in the lineup, as they are then worried about him rocking them. But the refs also watch him like a hawk. So him taking penalties, as well as his defensive lapses, could be devasting in a huge game like this.
I’m a bed wetter but I am nervous  
Essex : 5/13/2024 9:15 am : link
… maybe it is scarring from 2004 being a Yankees fan; but this Carolina team frightens me—please finish them off tonight
Big picture  
pjcas18 : 5/13/2024 9:22 am : link
losing a game is probably not the worst thing. Heading in to the Conference finals against FLA or BOS undefeated and having faced no adversity puts additional pressure on the team they don't need.

NYR end this tonight. Easy win.
Look for Chytll  
Samiam : 5/13/2024 9:23 am : link
I’m thinking that they didn’t want to play either Chytll or Rempe on the road because they didn’t want Carolina dictating the matchups with the home team having the last substitution. At home, either make more sense than Bredinski. But, Chytll is a much better player than either of these guys. I didn’t see him taking any hits to the head so I’m guessing (and hoping) that he was a healthy scratch and he should be in the lineup,tonight.
The fact that Chytil is considered to be an option  
ShockNRoll : 5/13/2024 9:41 am : link
is encouraging for me, as if it was related to the concussion issues, I don't think the quote from Laviolette would be that he's feeling better and may play game 5. I really hope he plays, he makes this the best forward group of the teams left, in my opinion.

I was busy and couldn't comment on game 4, it was disappointing to lose, but the Rangers played their worst period of the playoffs, by far, and still found a way to be 3-3 with 3+ minutes to play, despite only having 1 PP the whole game. I think tonight they jump out to an early lead, lock it down, and deliver the death blow in the third period in a 3-1 win. I'm looking to Igor to really shut the door tonight, and maybe even grab that elusive first career playoff shutout.
RE: Big picture  
ShockNRoll : 5/13/2024 9:44 am : link
In comment 16513244 pjcas18 said:
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losing a game is probably not the worst thing. Heading in to the Conference finals against FLA or BOS undefeated and having faced no adversity puts additional pressure on the team they don't need.

NYR end this tonight. Easy win.


This is a series I felt very confident about, but never would have thought they would have taken a 3-0 lead. A sweep would have been awesome, but it's good to get a clunker (really just one clunker of a period) out of the way and still have a commanding series lead. With Boston getting absolutely boned last night (but also getting badly outplayed most of the game), pressure is on the Rangers to close this out tonight so Florida is not going in to the ECF better rested. Rangers are a team that plays their best when they are rested.
LFGR!!  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/13/2024 9:46 am : link
In Brett we trust!!

LGR!  
NYerInMA : 5/13/2024 9:53 am : link
Feed off the MSG crowd and close these guys out!
RE: I’m a bed wetter but I am nervous  
rnargi : 5/13/2024 9:57 am : link
In comment 16513239 Essex said:
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… maybe it is scarring from 2004 being a Yankees fan; but this Carolina team frightens me—please finish them off tonight


I have the same feeling. They need to finish them tonight. Period.
End this tonight  
Anakim : 5/13/2024 10:01 am : link
We're home. No excuses.
I know Rangers are home tonight  
djm : 5/13/2024 10:09 am : link
but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.

Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.
RE: I know Rangers are home tonight  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/13/2024 10:19 am : link
In comment 16513280 djm said:
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but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.

Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.


So you woke up and chose violence this morning? lol
Chytil on the ice for morning skate!!  
ShockNRoll : 5/13/2024 10:30 am : link
per Mollie Walker
RE: RE: I know Rangers are home tonight  
djm : 5/13/2024 10:38 am : link
In comment 16513287 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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In comment 16513280 djm said:


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but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.

Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.



So you woke up and chose violence this morning? lol


MSG teams have me cranky this morning but all in all I can't be disappointed with either team. Rangers will be fine.
RE: I know Rangers are home tonight  
Costy16 : 5/13/2024 10:41 am : link
In comment 16513280 djm said:
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but what the fuck is up with the cuckold fans that wear WHALERS jerseys to Carolina home games? Have people lost their fucking minds? You don't see any Browns fans wearing their faded and fat wrinkled Bernie Kosar Jerseys at Ravens home games do you? Of course not.

Who the fuck does that? And the Whaler jerseys look NEW which is even more fucking ridiculous. You're going to PAY money to that franchise and celebrate ripping a team out of Hartford. Fucking Brilliant. You fucking sad sacked shit fan base.


They have a store in PNC Arena that strictly sells Whalers gear.
slay this dragon and move on.  
Victor in CT : 5/13/2024 10:50 am : link
you don't want a game 6 at a confident CAR home ice.
if the practice lines from this morning are indicative  
bigbluehoya : 5/13/2024 10:53 am : link
sounds like it's Brodzinski again.

Interestingly, Wheeler was a full participant (no non-contact jersey). Nice story, and seems like a great dude, but my standing preference will be that he remains in suit.

5th line in practice was Edstrom-Rempe-Wheels
I agree the loss wasn't a bad thing  
HBart : 5/13/2024 10:55 am : link
Carolina is a good team. The Rangers have a higher ceiling. I think Carolina played as well as they're capable of the other night - I don't feel like we've seen that from the Rangers yet. I also think Igor looking mortal for 20 minutes gave Carolina hope. With all that, it was what, 4-1 on hitting iron? Every game could have gone either way but the Rangers are just more dangerous and I think they know it; ultimately that wins out unless the hockey gods decide to fuck with them.

Nothing is over till it's over, and it would be unnecessarily nerve-wracking to drop tonight's game, but I feel good about this team. They know how to win.
RE: Chytil on the ice for morning skate!!  
BC Eagles94 : 5/13/2024 10:55 am : link
In comment 16513294 ShockNRoll said:
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per Mollie Walker


Yup, great news! As it can't be concussion related then. Wheeler also a full go with no more non-practice jersey. Good to have options. NHL playoffs can often be a war of attrition.

If Chytil isn't ready tonight, get Rempe back in there to crush their D.
RE: slay this dragon and move on.  
MadPlaid : 5/13/2024 10:56 am : link
In comment 16513319 Victor in CT said:
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you don't want a game 6 at a confident CAR home ice.

100% agree. Can't let them go back to Carolina for Game 6. Must finish them off tonight. Although, it is nice to have a Game 7 in NY in your pocket in case you need it. That is where winning the President's Trophy really pays off.

LGR!
The lines at practice are unchanged from Sat,  
Mad Mike : 5/13/2024 11:14 am : link
with Brodz skating with the fourth line. Rempe's skating with Edstrom and Wheeler, and Chytil sounds like only a semi-participant (still seems like a good sign that he's skating).
......  
Route 9 : 5/13/2024 11:19 am : link
1. djm's intensity is great, good shit. Keep it up. Everyone around here is some weirdo analytical nerd. Love the passion.

2. If the Rangers pull a 2004 Yankees, I'd be 0% surprised.
RE: slay this dragon and move on.  
BC Eagles94 : 5/13/2024 11:19 am : link
In comment 16513319 Victor in CT said:
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you don't want a game 6 at a confident CAR home ice.


Agreed. If we don't close them tonight, we're close to a coin flip for the series.
RE: The lines at practice are unchanged from Sat,  
BC Eagles94 : 5/13/2024 11:24 am : link
In comment 16513346 Mad Mike said:
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with Brodz skating with the fourth line. Rempe's skating with Edstrom and Wheeler, and Chytil sounds like only a semi-participant (still seems like a good sign that he's skating).


Saw that too. Apparently Lavi is scared to get Rempe back in there, due to his possibility of getting called for penalties with refs focused on him. Not to mention that defensive lapse in his last game that led to a goal, may have really did him in.

I trust Lavi. It's too bad though as MSG loves Rempe and I read the team is 15-0 with him the lineup?? Can that be accurate?!
The lines at morning skate  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/13/2024 11:28 am : link
Kreider-Zibanejad-Roslovic
Panarin-Trocheck-Lafrenière
Cuylle-Wennberg-Kakko
Vesey-Goodrow-Brodzinski

Much rather have Rempe in over Brodz if Chytil can't go.
Too bad Chytil looks out tonight  
ShockNRoll : 5/13/2024 11:29 am : link
but it's a great sign to see him on the ice regardless. I think many of us started to assume the worst when he was out with an "illness", but I highly doubt that he would be on the ice today after 6 months if there was even a suspicion that he was having ill effects from the concussion. It is unfortunate though because the crowd would collectively lose their minds if Chytil took the ice at MSG tonight.
Seems like the winning streak made  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/13/2024 11:33 am : link
some you guys a little soft.

O4 Yankees?

Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.
RE: Seems like the winning streak made  
Route 9 : 5/13/2024 11:39 am : link
In comment 16513372 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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some you guys a little soft.

O4 Yankees?

Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.


Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think
RE: Seems like the winning streak made  
ShockNRoll : 5/13/2024 11:41 am : link
In comment 16513372 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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some you guys a little soft.

O4 Yankees?

Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.


This. I have learned this year that as much as I love the Rangers, our fan base is so fragile it's ridiculous. The team literally went a full calendar month between losses, and after 1 loss, where the Rangers dug themselves in a huge hole and wound up at 3-3 late in the 3rd period and lost by a goal, so much of the fan base is in full freak out mode. They've been the best team in the league all year, and won 7 in a row to start the playoffs. I get it, this team has burned us before, but I fully expect the Rangers to win this series, honestly, whether they win tonight or not. That said, I expect their best game of the series tonight and a stress-free win.
RE: RE: Seems like the winning streak made  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/13/2024 11:42 am : link
In comment 16513382 Route 9 said:
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In comment 16513372 LawrenceTaylor56 said:


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some you guys a little soft.

O4 Yankees?

Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.



Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think


I get it, trust me. But I don't see this team losing 4 in a row. We actually have a coach who makes adjustments and ya know, coaches? Game 4 easily could have been the 3rd OT winner in a row.

Back in the Garden. I think the boys in blue will bring it tonight.
Start the game tonight with intensity and physicality  
Rick in Dallas : 5/13/2024 11:47 am : link
to finish off Canes in 5.
I prefer Brodzinski over Rempe on fourth line. Provides better defensive zone coverage imv.
Prefer Rempe  
averagejoe : 5/13/2024 11:54 am : link
Make Canes keep there heads up . They get brave when he is not in the lineup . When he hits you you have been hit. Does not need many minutes to make a difference .
RE: Seems like the winning streak made  
BrettNYG10 : 5/13/2024 11:56 am : link
In comment 16513372 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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some you guys a little soft.

O4 Yankees?

Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.


Rangers aren't losing four in a row to this team. Don't worry.
RE: RE: Seems like the winning streak made  
Costy16 : 5/13/2024 12:19 pm : link
In comment 16513382 Route 9 said:
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In comment 16513372 LawrenceTaylor56 said:


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some you guys a little soft.

O4 Yankees?

Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.



Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think


Yep
Glad to be back at MSG  
moze1021 : 5/13/2024 12:24 pm : link
Lets get a win today and another tomorrow!

Need Rangers to leave the good energy in the building!
RE: RE: Seems like the winning streak made  
x meadowlander : 5/13/2024 12:27 pm : link
In comment 16513382 Route 9 said:
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In comment 16513372 LawrenceTaylor56 said:


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some you guys a little soft.

O4 Yankees?

Come on. No need to bring that energy into the chat. Brett will take care of us. Rangers in 5.



Just being a Ranger fan in general has fans paranoid I think
Something about 2 Championships in 84 years, I think.
I really am still concerned for Chytil  
Matt M. : 5/13/2024 12:46 pm : link
The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.
The Hurricanes  
Gman11 : 5/13/2024 12:47 pm : link
wear the Whaler jerseys every now and then as a 3rd jersey.

Yeah, rub it in to the people in Hartford why don't ya.

Anyway, I hope the Rangers can close this out tonight.

LFGR!
RE: The Hurricanes  
djm : 5/13/2024 1:07 pm : link
In comment 16513453 Gman11 said:
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wear the Whaler jerseys every now and then as a 3rd jersey.

Yeah, rub it in to the people in Hartford why don't ya.

Anyway, I hope the Rangers can close this out tonight.

LFGR!


Ridiculous. Unnaccetpable. They deserve to lose in 5.
May 13th.. wonderful day in NYR playoff game history  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/13/2024 2:23 pm : link
RE: I really am still concerned for Chytil  
pjcas18 : 5/13/2024 2:48 pm : link
In comment 16513452 Matt M. said:
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The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.


On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).

It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.

The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
Historically, watching Rangers' playoff games is a lot like  
56goat : 5/13/2024 2:55 pm : link
watching the Giants at the end of a game, up 2 points and about to punt the ball away. Hard to watch because you know what is coming...
RE: RE: I really am still concerned for Chytil  
Stufftherun : 5/13/2024 3:03 pm : link
In comment 16513578 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16513452 Matt M. said:


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The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.



On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).

It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.

The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.


It appears Matt’s heart is in the right place.

A lecture is probably not necessary.

LGR!
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/13/2024 3:07 pm : link
I'm all for questioning all these damn experts. Remember when Lundqvist got a puck to the neck, they played him next game, and then he was out for months?

These guys screw up, too.
RE: The Hurricanes  
mfsd : 5/13/2024 3:36 pm : link
In comment 16513453 Gman11 said:
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wear the Whaler jerseys every now and then as a 3rd jersey.

Yeah, rub it in to the people in Hartford why don't ya.

Anyway, I hope the Rangers can close this out tonight.

LFGR!


That’s horseshit. I grew up in CT, every Whaler fan I know jumped on the Rangers or Bruins train once they left. I don’t know a single one who became a Canes fan

Fuck them. LGR
RE: RE: I really am still concerned for Chytil  
Matt M. : 5/13/2024 3:48 pm : link
In comment 16513578 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 16513452 Matt M. said:


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The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.



On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).

It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.

The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.
I'm not diagnosing him. I am merely worried about the guy. Other people here are easily dismissing anything going on with him as not related simply because he didn't get hit in the head. Remember when he returned to practice and collapsed on the ice...not from a hit. If the doctors say he is 100% in the clear, then it's his call and the team's call. I am just worried about him given what has happened.
RE: RE: RE: I really am still concerned for Chytil  
Matt M. : 5/13/2024 3:51 pm : link
In comment 16513625 Matt M. said:
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In comment 16513578 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 16513452 Matt M. said:


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The generic "illness" tag is bothersome to me. They haven't really given more details than that. Something as simple as nausea, for example, is possible to be a symptom of post concussion. It could also be food poisoning, food borne illness, virus, etc. But, not getting hit in the head doesn't mean he is excluded from possible continued effects of the concussion. I hope 100% I am wrong. But, I am worried for his immediate and long term health.



On one hand when I read posts like this I admire the humanity, but on the other hand I feel like who the F are you to question the approach here with Chytil? Chytil has his personal doctors and his family who only care about his wellness, and probably the best medical care available to anyone on the planet through the Rangers/NHL with neurologists, concussion specialists - both paid for by the team and independent experts, primary care doctors, trainers, PT's, etc. and you with no medical training or concussion background second guess them and feel like "I know what the experts - you know the people trained to handle patients like this for a living and have actually treated Chytil - recommend, but I wouldn't let him play. I would keep him out longer. And maybe he should not play ever again (I know I read you type this before).

It's cringe to read someone feel like they know more the experts and to go so far as to suggest when a player should or shouldn't return to the ice.

The days of rub dirt on that concussion and get back in there are over. If the medical staff allows him to play he's cleared it's that simple - by him, his family, his doctor, the Rangers doctor and the NHL independent concussion doctor. If it turns out he does re-injure himself, that would be a shame, but you can rest assured the course of action being recommended is based on more information and knowledge than you have.

I'm not diagnosing him. I am merely worried about the guy. Other people here are easily dismissing anything going on with him as not related simply because he didn't get hit in the head. Remember when he returned to practice and collapsed on the ice...not from a hit. If the doctors say he is 100% in the clear, then it's his call and the team's call. I am just worried about him given what has happened.
Put another way, none of us know what the doctors are actually saying. All we got was "illness". People here, the media, and team have said things like, "he felt great after the game and said so. Then he felt "sick" after dinner. He must have eaten something bad." These and similar comments may be true. They also may be way off base, especially given his history with this. I am just saying extreme caution should be exercised.
Matt  
pjcas18 : 5/13/2024 4:02 pm : link
NHL teams are not required to report to the league or tell the public details about injuries or illnesses.

They are not reporting the details because they don't have to.
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