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NFT: Game 5: Carolina Hurricanes @ New York Rangers Game Thread

BrettNYG10 : 5/13/2024 8:04 am
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RE: ......  
regischarlotte : 5/13/2024 9:30 pm : link
In comment 16513993 Route 9 said:
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The confidence that you guys have in the New York Rangers has got to be one of us comical things ever. Well, after people believe in Daniel Jones is a franchise quarterback.


Clear as day that when the PP is clicking they are a juggernaut, and when it’s not they are the second best team on the ice.
So Predictable!!!  
Rick in Dallas : 5/13/2024 9:30 pm : link
Canes have outskated Rangers all night.
It’s a very dangerous game to play to expect your goalie to save your ass….
The so called big names  
Costy16 : 5/13/2024 9:30 pm : link
On this team absolutely went to fucking sleep at the start of the 3rd.
Blind and cross ice passes all night  
The_Boss : 5/13/2024 9:31 pm : link
Nothing there.
RE: I’d be shocked if Carolina didn’t win this series  
Kyle in NY : 5/13/2024 9:31 pm : link
In comment 16513985 MetsAreBack said:
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They’ve been head and shoulders the better team four straight games now.


That’s a stretch. But the first four could have gone either way so this never really felt secure. We've got our hands full now and there’s no way some doubt isn’t creeping in. That’s for sure. I’d be surprised if we’re not back here for game 7
Question  
regischarlotte : 5/13/2024 9:31 pm : link
Has Panarin looked bad? I’m only able to listen on radio tonite and from the way Maloney has described it Artemi has been a disaster.
What happens when you play not to lose  
JoeMoney19 : 5/13/2024 9:31 pm : link
One shot in 20 minutes.
RE: Question  
rnargi : 5/13/2024 9:32 pm : link
In comment 16514003 regischarlotte said:
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Has Panarin looked bad? I’m only able to listen on radio tonite and from the way Maloney has described it Artemi has been a disaster.


Hes been bad since his game winner.
Wow  
jgambrosio : 5/13/2024 9:33 pm : link
Someone knows how to shoot on an empty net.

Imagine if we did that? We wouldn't be here.
Trouba with the only  
bluesince56 : 5/13/2024 9:33 pm : link
Goal in an elimination game. Wow
Game.  
rnargi : 5/13/2024 9:33 pm : link
We get the pluck with an empty net, and we try a fucking cross ice pass in your own zone. This series is over, Carolina is winning it.
Game over. Disgraceful.  
Anakim : 5/13/2024 9:33 pm : link
Between the Knicks and Rangers, things all of a sudden look so bleak.


Trouba is not a captain
Hate to sound like route 9  
Bear vs Shark : 5/13/2024 9:33 pm : link
But this series is done, we are losing it
Silver lining?  
regischarlotte : 5/13/2024 9:35 pm : link
Obviously losing sucks, but it seems to me that maybe CAR has been playing with nothing to lose and no expectations these last two.

Now that they are decidedly back in the series, and playing G6 at home, perhaps their sticks get a held a little tighter . . .
You know what? Call this controversial but bench Trouba  
Anakim : 5/13/2024 9:35 pm : link
Yes. Bench Trouba. That fucker has been on the ice for how many goals against? And how many stupid penalties has he taken?

Fuck him. Play Ruhwedal. I’m sick of seeing that big tub of shit we call a captain playing subpar.
The Knicks at least have an excuse if they lose  
jgambrosio : 5/13/2024 9:35 pm : link
The Rangers? I'm speechless
I said it in the knicks game chat  
fanoftheteam : 5/13/2024 9:35 pm : link
But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.
Half way to an epic choke job  
The_Boss : 5/13/2024 9:35 pm : link
Zero confidence these guys avoid a game 7.
.  
Kyle in NY : 5/13/2024 9:36 pm : link
Alright guys. Shit effort but they’ve still got two chances to close it out. Just declaring the season over is kinda silly
Third line invisible  
bluesince56 : 5/13/2024 9:38 pm : link
KK has done nothing. Top two lines. No effort
RE: Half way to an epic choke job  
regischarlotte : 5/13/2024 9:38 pm : link
In comment 16514019 The_Boss said:
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Zero confidence these guys avoid a game 7.


Which Cane gets a bloody sock?
RE: I said it in the knicks game chat  
Anakim : 5/13/2024 9:42 pm : link
In comment 16514017 fanoftheteam said:
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But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.


And who the fuck are you?
Such negativity. Rangers are up 3-2  
RDJR : 5/13/2024 9:43 pm : link
and have 2 more games to end it. Nobody thought this would be am easy series.
RE: I said it in the knicks game chat  
rnargi : 5/13/2024 9:49 pm : link
In comment 16514017 fanoftheteam said:
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But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.


Shitty fans.

The Knicks and Rangers...particularly the Knicks...are two of the sorriest franchises in fucking HISTORY. But it's the fans who come back year after year who are shitty. Not the teams.
RE: RE: I said it in the knicks game chat  
rnargi : 5/13/2024 9:51 pm : link
In comment 16514032 rnargi said:
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In comment 16514017 fanoftheteam said:


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But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.



Shitty fans.

The Knicks and Rangers...particularly the Knicks...are two of the sorriest franchises in fucking HISTORY. But it's the fans who come back year after year who are shitty. Not the teams.


And another thing, when have Knicks or Rangers fans EVER had the opportunity to buy high? Holy shit, batman.
Yikes and now Sugar  
moze1021 : 5/13/2024 9:53 pm : link
Blows it vs the Phillies

Rough night...rough rough night
RE: Hate to sound like route 9  
Route 9 : 5/13/2024 10:07 pm : link
In comment 16514011 Bear vs Shark said:
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But this series is done, we are losing it


Now you're growing up
Man,  
AcidTest : 5/13/2024 10:09 pm : link
that was depressing. WTF happened in the third period? Oh well, on to game six.
BTW, how many fucking blatant calls are the refs not going to blow?  
Anakim : 5/13/2024 10:09 pm : link
Panarin was fucking hooked by Chatfield (I think) when it was 1-1 in the third period. The Hurricanes had too many men on the ice for 10 FUCKING SECONDS.

Same story with the Knicks and Rangers. It doesn't excuse their shitty play, but these fucking refs have to be better.
NY Rangers top 6 D playoff stats  
pjcas18 : 5/13/2024 10:12 pm : link
#1 9 GP, 1G/1A 2 pts, +2 2 PIM, 16 hits, 12 blocked shots
#2 9 GP, 1G/3A 4 pts, +1, 12 PIM, 32 hits, 41 blocked shots
#3 9 GP, 0G/4A 4 pts, 0 +/- 6 PIM, 6 hits, 18 blocked shots
#4 9 GP, 0G/1A 1 pts, 0 +/- 14 PIM, 16 hits, 14 blocked shots
#5 9 GP, 0G/3A 3 pts, -2, 4 PIM, 15 hits, 5 blocked shots
#6 9 GP, 0G/0A 0 pts, 0 +/1 4 PIM, 9 hits, 10 blocked shots

everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?

You are unhinged right now, take a breath.

2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.
IF it were to happen, where would a loss in this series rank  
The_Boss : 5/13/2024 10:16 pm : link
In terms of NY sports disasters? In my life, the 2 that would stick out as worse are the 2004 Yanks and the NYG blowing that lead in SF. Would this be worse than the Knicks losing in ‘93 (Charles Smith game)?
RE: IF it were to happen, where would a loss in this series rank  
The_Boss : 5/13/2024 10:22 pm : link
In comment 16514048 The_Boss said:
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In terms of NY sports disasters? In my life, the 2 that would stick out as worse are the 2004 Yanks and the NYG blowing that lead in SF. Would this be worse than the Knicks losing in ‘93 (Charles Smith game)?


Maybe throw in Mets losing to an inferior LAD in ‘88.
Not a single fucking person on the team played well.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/13/2024 10:37 pm : link
However I don’t blame Shesty because they easily could’ve been down 3 goals after the first period.

The decision making with the puck was baffling. Guys incessantly forcing the puck into the middle of the ice was driving me crazy. The asinine passes on the PP made no sense. Bread falling asleep in the defensive zone cost them a goal for the second consecutive game. No physicality whatsoever.

They really need to get their heads out of their asses.
RE: NY Rangers top 6 D playoff stats  
Kyle in NY : 5/13/2024 10:37 pm : link
In comment 16514047 pjcas18 said:
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#1 9 GP, 1G/1A 2 pts, +2 2 PIM, 16 hits, 12 blocked shots
#2 9 GP, 1G/3A 4 pts, +1, 12 PIM, 32 hits, 41 blocked shots
#3 9 GP, 0G/4A 4 pts, 0 +/- 6 PIM, 6 hits, 18 blocked shots
#4 9 GP, 0G/1A 1 pts, 0 +/- 14 PIM, 16 hits, 14 blocked shots
#5 9 GP, 0G/3A 3 pts, -2, 4 PIM, 15 hits, 5 blocked shots
#6 9 GP, 0G/0A 0 pts, 0 +/1 4 PIM, 9 hits, 10 blocked shots

everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?

You are unhinged right now, take a breath.

2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.


There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.

And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.

All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.

The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though
RE: RE: I said it in the knicks game chat  
fanoftheteam : 5/13/2024 10:49 pm : link
In comment 16514024 Anakim said:
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In comment 16514017 fanoftheteam said:


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But all game chats fwiw are just filled with absolute losers. You guys are really the shittiest fans ever. You only know how to sell low and buy high.



And who the fuck are you?



Anakim - who are you other than the biggest dork on this board? You guys legitimately think that your fave sport teams are going to play spotless every game and then you whine like 5 year olds when it doesnt happen. Then bitch - then change your mind on them when they prove something to you.
RE: RE: NY Rangers top 6 D playoff stats  
pjcas18 : 5/13/2024 11:01 pm : link
In comment 16514066 Kyle in NY said:
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In comment 16514047 pjcas18 said:


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#1 9 GP, 1G/1A 2 pts, +2 2 PIM, 16 hits, 12 blocked shots
#2 9 GP, 1G/3A 4 pts, +1, 12 PIM, 32 hits, 41 blocked shots
#3 9 GP, 0G/4A 4 pts, 0 +/- 6 PIM, 6 hits, 18 blocked shots
#4 9 GP, 0G/1A 1 pts, 0 +/- 14 PIM, 16 hits, 14 blocked shots
#5 9 GP, 0G/3A 3 pts, -2, 4 PIM, 15 hits, 5 blocked shots
#6 9 GP, 0G/0A 0 pts, 0 +/1 4 PIM, 9 hits, 10 blocked shots

everything that goes wrong is the fault of one of these players. which one do you think it is?

You are unhinged right now, take a breath.

2 of those D were out there for the first two CAR goals, one of them got walked out of the corner and the CAR player walked right around the other. I didn't see one mention of their names in the thread. Face it you just don't like the guy for some reason.



There are different standards based on the status, salaries, and experience of players. You know this. Fair or not, when you make what he makes and you’re the captain, the standards are different than they are for Braden Schneider. Thats what the money is for.

And yes, Schneider completely screwed up that play. But Trouba, while still capable of good moments, nice play on the goal, really struggles to keep up against teams like this and that’s tough when he makes $8m against the cap.

All a bunch of blocked shots tell me is that the other team usually has the puck when you’re on the ice.

The whole team was bad tonight. Let’s make that clear though


Fair enough. I don't usually play the individual blame game in hockey. Maybe being a former player I hate it, and normally players don't think that way even if fans do. Sometimes I will explain my interpretation of whose guy it was that scored, or the sequence of events that led to the goal IMO. Hockey is the epitome of a team sport and while occasionally things do happen where one individual does something that directly leads to an opposing team goal, most of the time a lot of bad things happened that led to the goal.

Now, all that said, if I were forced to make a list of why the Rangers lost tonight IMO, Trouba would be near the bottom, but most of you want a lynching. it's like a social contagion. The money he gets paid doesn't change the contribution IMO to wins or losses.

Gotta get some thoughts out  
Bear vs Shark : 5/13/2024 11:01 pm : link
To my untrained eye (I am no pjacs or ColHow)

My immediate pessimistic reaction is that we are now going to lose this series. At this point, I think its a lock to go 7, and that game 7 will be a coin flip. This feels like the brink of a disaster -- and while one part of this is that the Rangers find a way to fuck up in the playoffs, the other ius that Carolina is VERY good and we were up 3-0 due to some puck luck anyway.

I know Carolinas game is to live in the other team's zone and throw shit at the net, but at the beginning of this series, we looked like we were playing THEIR game and winningb by counterpunching/making them pay. Now, we're LETTING them play their game and dictate play. They're imposing it onto us.

Fox looks so fucking hurt out there.

Panarin has looked lazy at times in the last couple games. Getting beat to the puck cost us a goal in game 4. Tonight, once again, he was beat to the puck.

Mika and Chris played very poorly tonight.

Third line was not the shutdown beasts theyve been recently.

The powerplay is in complete discombubulation, and what's strange is that Carolina doesn't seem to be doing anything that differently. I guess they are playing slightly more aggressively but they were aggressive on the PK in the first few games also, they just got burned for it. There's no structure, it seems to be all chaos, we don't set up.

As an aside, and as a Rangers and somewhat Nets fan (basically, not a Knicks fan), lumping the Rangers and Knicks in the same category is ridiculous. Neither have won a championship but the Rangers have been lightyears better than the Knicks since the 05 lockout.

i'm so fucking pissed right now, and disappointed, i truly don't know how to shake it.
roslovic looked like the best player on the zib line tonight  
Bear vs Shark : 5/13/2024 11:03 pm : link
but considering the rangers have an inability to hold the puck, would it be nuts to move kappo off the third line and onto the zib line, at least for some shifts? at least he can hold the puck and bring it in the zone when he gets it. having said that, roslovic was doing a good job with his speed of doing the same thing, but I don't think he's as good as possessing it as kappo.

thats probably an awful idea but just thinking aloud.

we desperately need chytil back.

and at this point, you can't play rempe if he's just not gonna play (although I don't think there's any plans to play him from here on out anyway. he doesn't play in carolina and he isn't gonna suit up for a game 7)
Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?  
pjcas18 : 5/13/2024 11:04 pm : link
there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.

You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?  
Bear vs Shark : 5/13/2024 11:07 pm : link
In comment 16514082 pjcas18 said:
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there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.

You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.
for me at least, it's more a "respect for how good carolina" thing than "fuck the Rangers" thing
RE: RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?  
pjcas18 : 5/13/2024 11:16 pm : link
In comment 16514085 Bear vs Shark said:
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In comment 16514082 pjcas18 said:


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there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.

You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.

for me at least, it's more a "respect for how good carolina" thing than "fuck the Rangers" thing


totally fair, CAR is a great team. It's hard to find two teams closer in their division than NYR and CAR this past season. I like Igor though, and I think he's makes the difference in this series.
RE: Come on, you guys lost confidence that quickly?  
Route 9 : 5/13/2024 11:24 pm : link
In comment 16514082 pjcas18 said:
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there is no way the Rangers are losing this series and they'll be a better team for it.

You all talk about rest, but I'd rather avoid rust then get rest. Florida got decimated by Boston coming off a week of rest because the Bruins Leafs went 7. Florida is a much better team, but Boston was sharp, Florida was rusty. In the conference finals you don't want to give up a game because you had more time off.


If Jacob Trouba is your "top performer" on offense, yes lol there is no confidence heading into game 6. I 100% respect the hell out of Carolina, also.
Between the Giants being pond scum every year  
BestFeature : 5/14/2024 1:22 am : link
and the Rangers collapsing every year I question why I watch sports at all.
......  
Route 9 : 5/14/2024 3:08 am : link
As for the 2004 Yankees comparisons, that was 4 years after the last time they won their 4th WS in 5 years with their "unit" of the dynasty teams still around, Jeter, MO, Posada, Bernie, still around so it was a bit more stunning and infuriating at the same time against a long time arch rival, and on top of that to send them into the world Series and break their 86-year curse?

If this were to happen, I'd just laugh for a few seconds and roll my eyes and say ya same old joker Rangers. I'll attend games and whatnot (I love live hockey) but I haven't taken them seriously or gotten "hopes up" since 2015. Nope.
Performing well with a lead is harder  
x meadowlander : 5/14/2024 6:11 am : link
...than doing so with backs against the wall.

Sweeping Carolina was an illusion.

Still a lot of hockey left. Now we learn about the heart of this team.

LGR!!!
Wow watching "highlights"  
Route 9 : 5/14/2024 6:35 am : link
Getting clowned by Jordan Steal
......  
Route 9 : 5/14/2024 6:36 am : link
Might as well be Jordan Steal. What a clown show that 3rd period was.
Come on guys  
Dang Man : 5/14/2024 7:15 am : link
Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Nothing over until we decide it is!

Let’s go Rangers.
that was a disgraceful performance by all but Igor.  
Victor in CT : 5/14/2024 7:49 am : link
no urgency, no jump. Like the playing San Jose in January instead a chance to close out a really good team to advance.
Game 7 is now a real possibility.
Hang in there  
bigbluehoya : 5/14/2024 7:49 am : link
Carolina is an excellent team.

Kreider said it best. We all would have signed up in a flash if we were told before the series we'd be up 3-2.

Win 1 of 2.

Go get it.
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