OG is out again going to need big games from Divo and McBride if this team has any chance of recovering. Hopefully the MSG crowd is a factor. Let’s get this pivotal game!
We need Brunson to get his head out of his ass. There is a reason we scored only 16 points in the 4th in game 3. He is forcing it too much and looking like Randle from years past. Shooting is a rhythm. If you are dominating the ball and only moving it when you get stuck, that isn't going to cut it. Basketball is such a simple sport. Move the ball and good things happen on offense.
I think we are really missing Mitch too. At first I didn't think this was going to be a good matchup for Mitch but we definitely miss his presence in the paint and his rebounding. IHart has not been good outside of his passing.
I'm afraid the injuries have finally caught up to them.
Forget OG for this series. He ain't coming back, no matter what the Knicks say. Brunson looks too hobbled by that right foot injury to be himself. You can only use that "next man up" mantra for so long until you actually run outta men.
I hope I'm wrong, but the Knicks look done now. Like it or not, the Pacers are now the favorites in this series due to these injuries the Knicks have to deal with. Overcoming the OG injury is a bridge too far. If Indy win Game 5 tonight, then it'll be over in 6 when they return to Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indy. I hope I'm wrong and the Knicks ball out tonight and find a way, but my head tells me it's not gonna happen. My heart, of course, is another matter. #LGK
And I know everyone will point to the lack of offense
But their D has looked like shit. Guys are not closing out, you have two guys running to the same shooter meaning they don't understand their rotations, etc. The rebounding hasn't been good. Hart is on a mission but besides him, guys aren't really doing their jobs. We have to be better in both areas if they want to win.
as well. I gotta tell you, I love OG but I’m starting to think re-signing him may be a mistake. The guy is always hurt and not just here. Is this something the Knicks want to keep dealing with?
as well. I gotta tell you, I love OG but I’m starting to think re-signing him may be a mistake. The guy is always hurt and not just here. Is this something the Knicks want to keep dealing with?
He is hurt a lot, BUT look at how much better this team is with him in the line-up. The Knicks have to re-sign him and just hope he can manage the injuries better. Just have to deal with it.
you get home court in a game 5 with the series tied 2-2, yeah they are hurt andnthey took a haymaker on sunday, but the bell hasnt rung and the Pacers may be dancing andnthinking they did something but they havnt done anything yet..They still have to come into the Garden and win a game..
Couple of adjustments:
1) Start Deuce or Burks instead of Precious, Precious at the 4 simply doesnt work and everytime they start that way they start slow...He cant shoot and his defense and rebounding has nlt been good enough to justify starting him.
With Deuce or Burks it spreads out the Pacers, Siakim cant just freely help on everything and if he does, the corners are wide open.
2) With the new starting lineup, i am putting Ihart on Siakim and Hart on Turner. Turner doesnt want to post up all game, its not his game, he wants to stand on the perimiter and run pick and pop. If he does post up, send the double or quickly switch.
This also allows you to switch on every pick and pop they try to run and doesnt allow Haliburton to turn the corner.
3) Let Hart or divencenzo bring the ball up when Nesmith is on Brunson. Make Nembhard and Haliburton defend a little bit, run pick and roll and allow Hart or Divencenzo be the ball handler, Brunson will get his oppurtunities but this will allow him to not have to go crazy going 1 on 1.
4) Drive the lane, with 4 shooters on the court and Ihart the lane should be wide open and if they cknverge, kick and find the open man, make these guys habe to defend.
5) Deuce has to make them pay from 3, he has to knock down those open looks, if he does the defens eon Brunson will have to relax a little..In game 2 the 3s were falling and the Pacers had absolutely no answer
as well. I gotta tell you, I love OG but I’m starting to think re-signing him may be a mistake. The guy is always hurt and not just here. Is this something the Knicks want to keep dealing with?
not resigning OG will set this franchise back a lot
Why is anyone even bringing up the possibility of letting OG walk?
The team is one of the best in the league when he’s on the court, and honestly the deal is probably already done. They didn’t give up Barrett and Quickley for a 4 month rental.
as well. I gotta tell you, I love OG but I’m starting to think re-signing him may be a mistake. The guy is always hurt and not just here. Is this something the Knicks want to keep dealing with?
not resigning OG will set this franchise back a lot
They are fully committed to resigning OG they gave up a lot for him and it wasn't a half year rental.
Anyway this season ends we know what we have with Randle, bojan and Mitch next season. Hopefully Hartenstein takes a little hometown discount and stays around.
The team is built to contend.
Players for him and we are capped out even if we don’t resign him so not giving him a contract doesn’t actually do anything for us. They do need to manage his minutes next season though. He should be a 30 mpg guy during the regular season (no back to backs) and hope the decreased workload keeps him healthier. He went from not playing because of the elbow to playing 45 mpg, an injury was inevitable. And that’s not a criticism of Thibs, he had no choice and I would have done the same thing.
As for tonight’s game, I think how they set the tone in the first will be key. Haliburton has been getting most of his points in the first quarter. If they can limit him and have a strong quarter I think they can hang with the pacers and hopefully have a chance to win it at the end. If we let them shoot wild from three early again, the game is over.
In a close one. The reason? By playing an afternoon game on Sunday, and guys sitting out the 4th quarter, it's basically the equivalent of having two days of rest as opposed to only one. Getting blown out on Sunday may turn out to be a blessing in disguide for this reason. I think the Knicks will come out rested, and as a result will be sharp and focused. Brunson goes for 35 and the three's will hit like normal from the shooter's. Let's go!
Go look at how many games he’s played especially the past 3 seasons. It’s under 50 for the most part. I can’t see him being less injury prone as he gets older either. Also, the Knicks did not give up that much at all to get him. Quickley was leaving and they were able to dump Barrett’s contract. They gave up no picks. Again, when OG is playing he is an absolute difference maker for this team but they have to consider that he is potentially unreliable.
Go look at how many games he’s played especially the past 3 seasons. It’s under 50 for the most part. I can’t see him being less injury prone as he gets older either. Also, the Knicks did not give up that much at all to get him. Quickley was leaving and they were able to dump Barrett’s contract. They gave up no picks. Again, when OG is playing he is an absolute difference maker for this team but they have to consider that he is potentially unreliable.
But what’s the plan to replace his productivity then? That’s the problem. We’d all love to find someone more reliable but we don’t have cap space. So what do you propose?
Go look at how many games he’s played especially the past 3 seasons. It’s under 50 for the most part. I can’t see him being less injury prone as he gets older either. Also, the Knicks did not give up that much at all to get him. Quickley was leaving and they were able to dump Barrett’s contract. They gave up no picks. Again, when OG is playing he is an absolute difference maker for this team but they have to consider that he is potentially unreliable.
Ok so who is replacing him and how? you used 2 of your better assets to get him...
You still need to find a 2nd star, so hownyou getting a 2nd star and replacing your perfect fit 3rd guy?
My hope is that they give him like 20 something instead of 40. But considering how many teams have cap space this offseason, and the record with him in the lineup, that he'll get all the money.
But I think we win tonight. There’s too much pride with this team. I also think the Garden crowd gets on Carlisle and Haliburton early and often. I’m hoping someone gets creative with their heckling and dresses like a baby for Carlisle or something like that.
as well. I gotta tell you, I love OG but I’m starting to think re-signing him may be a mistake. The guy is always hurt and not just here. Is this something the Knicks want to keep dealing with?
He is hurt a lot, BUT look at how much better this team is with him in the line-up. The Knicks have to re-sign him and just hope he can manage the injuries better. Just have to deal with it.
Hope is not a strategy to borrow a Steve Cohenism. If they re-sign him, which I'd be fine with, they need to learn how to manage him. He gets dinged. I've made the sports car analogy with him before. They need to manage his minutes and make an ultimatum to Thibs, Coughlin style cira post 2006. The goal with OG is to get him to the playoffs healthy and give him time off during the regular season as needed, NOT run him into the ground. OG is what he is. He's a FANTASTIC basketball player. We all see that and understand how important he is to the makeup of this team going forward. His agent is Leon Rose's son, so I'd say it's safe to assume the framework of a deal has already been worked out.
Go look at how many games he’s played especially the past 3 seasons. It’s under 50 for the most part. I can’t see him being less injury prone as he gets older either. Also, the Knicks did not give up that much at all to get him. Quickley was leaving and they were able to dump Barrett’s contract. They gave up no picks. Again, when OG is playing he is an absolute difference maker for this team but they have to consider that he is potentially unreliable.
But what’s the plan to replace his productivity then? That’s the problem. We’d all love to find someone more reliable but we don’t have cap space. So what do you propose?
I don’t know what the answer to this is but Leon has been pretty good at figuring out these issues. Again, love the player but are we confident that his contract isn’t going to turn into a disaster? I’ll be happy either way as this team is going in a positive direction and I trust what Leon is doing.
RE: You have to resign OG. We gave up two rotation
Players for him and we are capped out even if we don’t resign him so not giving him a contract doesn’t actually do anything for us. They do need to manage his minutes next season though. He should be a 30 mpg guy during the regular season (no back to backs) and hope the decreased workload keeps him healthier. He went from not playing because of the elbow to playing 45 mpg, an injury was inevitable. And that’s not a criticism of Thibs, he had no choice and I would have done the same thing.
As for tonight’s game, I think how they set the tone in the first will be key. Haliburton has been getting most of his points in the first quarter. If they can limit him and have a strong quarter I think they can hang with the pacers and hopefully have a chance to win it at the end. If we let them shoot wild from three early again, the game is over.
You hit the nail on the head regarding managing his minutes next season, assuming the NYK re-sign him (I think it's safe to say we all want him back despite the injuries). 30 mpg in the regular season and no back-to-backs is the way to go with him and then it gets ramped up in the playoffs of course.
We need Brunson to get his head out of his ass. There is a reason we scored only 16 points in the 4th in game 3. He is forcing it too much and looking like Randle from years past. Shooting is a rhythm. If you are dominating the ball and only moving it when you get stuck, that isn't going to cut it. Basketball is such a simple sport. Move the ball and good things happen on offense.
Ask yourself why Randle forced things so much and why Brunson is now.
You know why. We're a 3 player team now.
We're fucked. Knicks could steal this series but we're not long for the postseason. We have no front court anymore. It's gone. We have no scoring wing on the bench. Matter of fact we don't even have a wing on the bench. We have one decent scoring guard on the bench but he's not a facilitator. One decent front court presence on the bench. And that's it. Our best rebounder is 6'4.
This turned south in a fucking hurry. We could handle Mitch being out if OG was out there because at least there would still be 3 elite starters on the floor if you think Hart is elite or at least brings an elite skill set. Ihart at least could hold center together but without Mitch the position is no longer elite. Now it's just OK.
Pray for a miracle and enjoy every minute that the Knicks are breathing.
and they can win this series. Even if you back to when things were at their worse this season, which sadly is emulating this exact moment. No depth at center. No OG. No Randle. Even then, when the team was stripped to the bare bones, that being the Villanova trio and IHart, the Knicks still won some games even if their record was sub 500. They can steal one tonight. Shoot the lights out and get this one. Mimic game 3 except this time you close.
1) I'd start Burks not Deuce. Burks is a little bigger.
2) The Pacers have done a great job getting under the Knicks skin with physical play. The Knicks need to be physical with Haliburton and get in his head.
3) Def let someone else bring up the ball when they pickup Jalen full court.
4) McConnell - stop overplaying him - force him left and shooting outside shots
In the final analysis JVG said it best, it is make or miss league, if the Knicks are hitting 3's they can win this game.
Remember Imdiana got blown out in Game 5 in Milwaukee without Giannis as they were feeling too good about themselves and could have won Game 4.
I'd expect a better game from Brunson tonight and then he has 3 days of rest til Game 6.
Regarding OG, don't think we see him again in this series.
Not sure Indy has the killer instinct to win a game like this on the road, but I’m not sure we can beat them right now without OG. Something’s gotta give.
I think we are really missing Mitch too. At first I didn't think this was going to be a good matchup for Mitch but we definitely miss his presence in the paint and his rebounding. IHart has not been good outside of his passing.
Agreed. Ihart is a nice defensive player maybe even better than that but certain matchups or moments can give him problems, just like any center can have moments of struggle. When you had Mitch you basically had a guarantee that one of the centers here was going to dominate. Not anymore. And then you have the minutes and fatigue issue.
tough breaks. What can you do. All I ask from the basketball gods is over the next 4-5 seasons give this franchise at least one or two postseason runs of good health. I think if they can get one of those charmed runs that only the scumbag lakers and celtics seem to enjoy we can win a chip. Not asking much. Just give the KNicks one fucking run that every other title team enjoys over and over again.
you literally are 1 piece away from a contender, if you want to say Randle heakthy is that piece, thats fine, i dont agree, i dontt hink Randle at 50 million is something i would do..
but you have:
a superstar in Brunson
your 3rd guy in OG who will play defense, shoot the 3 and is not a high usage player
elite role players in Divencenzo and Hart..
Hartenstein and Mitch are more than capable as your center, if you want tonuograde to a shooter no argument there..
You have the assets to go get the 2nd star next to Brunson and become a title contender
Players for him and we are capped out even if we don’t resign him so not giving him a contract doesn’t actually do anything for us. They do need to manage his minutes next season though. He should be a 30 mpg guy during the regular season (no back to backs) and hope the decreased workload keeps him healthier. He went from not playing because of the elbow to playing 45 mpg, an injury was inevitable. And that’s not a criticism of Thibs, he had no choice and I would have done the same thing.
As for tonight’s game, I think how they set the tone in the first will be key. Haliburton has been getting most of his points in the first quarter. If they can limit him and have a strong quarter I think they can hang with the pacers and hopefully have a chance to win it at the end. If we let them shoot wild from three early again, the game is over.
OG will get signed. His agent is Scott Rose. Leon’s son
Is being emotional. The Knicks are an elite team with OG on the court.
AJ do you get the vibe the Knicks will be ready to play tonight?
They won’t lay down. I think they win tonight.
Sunday was blown out of proportion because literally nobody could hit a shot and they had to chase the pacers up and down the court in transition because of that.
Yeah there is no way on earth to question it we're resigning OG
The guy is elite at what he does and you don't let him walk away. I'm fine with managing his minutes, but I'm glad I'm not the one that gets to bring that up with Thibs. As for tonight I still have confidence in this team. They're home and when these tough series gets down to the nitty gritty the mentally tougher team usually comes out on top and that's us in this matchup. It probably comes down to the late 4th qtr Sunday but I have confidence we pull it out.
The Knicks are 26-5 with OG and as she showed in Game 2 before getting hurt, there is more offensive potential to tap into. There is no way he is resigned.
The question for the off-season is whether or not the Knicks upgrade or keep Randle.
The Houston Rockets are a real problem in the quest to get Bridges. It seems that Durant is more likely to get traded than Booker if anyone is traded from the Suns. Is Mitchell a fit. Brandan Ingram does not seem like a great fit.
1) I'd start Burks not Deuce. Burks is a little bigger.
2) The Pacers have done a great job getting under the Knicks skin with physical play. The Knicks need to be physical with Haliburton and get in his head.
3) Def let someone else bring up the ball when they pickup Jalen full court.
4) McConnell - stop overplaying him - force him left and shooting outside shots
In the final analysis JVG said it best, it is make or miss league, if the Knicks are hitting 3's they can win this game.
Remember Imdiana got blown out in Game 5 in Milwaukee without Giannis as they were feeling too good about themselves and could have won Game 4.
I'd expect a better game from Brunson tonight and then he has 3 days of rest til Game 6.
Regarding OG, don't think we see him again in this series.
Spot on. Great points about Burks and Indy's immaturity.
He's definitely back. The big question for me is what does the contract look like. The Sixers have space and if PG resigned with the Clips, OG is an obvious target between Joel and Maxey. For OG, I could see anything from the Dejounte Murry deal (4/120) to a full max given the 76ers, but would guess something like 4/140. They can also now do a 5 year non-max too.
He's definitely back. The big question for me is what does the contract look like. The Sixers have space and if PG resigned with the Clips, OG is an obvious target between Joel and Maxey. For OG, I could see anything from the Dejounte Murry deal (4/120) to a full max given the 76ers, but would guess something like 4/140. They can also now do a 5 year non-max too.
I would agree but his agent is Leon Rose's son, he went to CAA to specifically get traded to the Knicks
He's definitely back. The big question for me is what does the contract look like. The Sixers have space and if PG resigned with the Clips, OG is an obvious target between Joel and Maxey. For OG, I could see anything from the Dejounte Murry deal (4/120) to a full max given the 76ers, but would guess something like 4/140. They can also now do a 5 year non-max too.
I would agree but his agent is Leon Rose's son, he went to CAA to specifically get traded to the Knicks
This new Knicks culture seems to get guys to sign a bit below market value and with descending values of their contract, I'm sure they will try to do the same with OG.
Over a number of years. Rose has proven that he not only makes mostly the correct signings ( outside of Fournier& Kemba but that was very low risk) he signs the right guys to great contracts. I have total trust he'll work of the OG & IHart contracts this off season to deals that will work well for the Knicks.
He's definitely back. The big question for me is what does the contract look like. The Sixers have space and if PG resigned with the Clips, OG is an obvious target between Joel and Maxey. For OG, I could see anything from the Dejounte Murry deal (4/120) to a full max given the 76ers, but would guess something like 4/140. They can also now do a 5 year non-max too.
I would agree but his agent is Leon Rose's son, he went to CAA to specifically get traded to the Knicks
OMG I wouldn't be able to stomach him going to the 76ers.
but I'm having trouble. I just hope Brunson can give us that 1A Superstar performance we've come to expect. If we can win tonight, Indiana has no reason to believe they are walking in here and winning a game 7 no matter what happens Friday.
We need Brunson to get his head out of his ass. There is a reason we scored only 16 points in the 4th in game 3. He is forcing it too much and looking like Randle from years past. Shooting is a rhythm. If you are dominating the ball and only moving it when you get stuck, that isn't going to cut it. Basketball is such a simple sport. Move the ball and good things happen on offense.
Ask yourself why Randle forced things so much and why Brunson is now.
You know why. We're a 3 player team now.
We're fucked. Knicks could steal this series but we're not long for the postseason. We have no front court anymore. It's gone. We have no scoring wing on the bench. Matter of fact we don't even have a wing on the bench. We have one decent scoring guard on the bench but he's not a facilitator. One decent front court presence on the bench. And that's it. Our best rebounder is 6'4.
This turned south in a fucking hurry. We could handle Mitch being out if OG was out there because at least there would still be 3 elite starters on the floor if you think Hart is elite or at least brings an elite skill set. Ihart at least could hold center together but without Mitch the position is no longer elite. Now it's just OK.
Pray for a miracle and enjoy every minute that the Knicks are breathing.
Doesn't matter the reason. We have guys who csn shoot. Watching DD go off in the 3rd quarter only to get frozen out by Brunson in the 4th of game 3 was absurd. As everyone is saying, Brunson is hurt. Enough with the excuses. If Brunson is moving the ball and guys aren't stepping up then we'll cross thay bridge when we get there. To not give your teammates a chance is unacceptable, especially when you aren't 100%. Brunson admitted as much but you can keep dying on that sword.
The Knicks have a very difficult decision to make regarding OG. It's
obvious the value he brings to the team when he's on the floor. But is it smart to tie up $40m in cap space in a player who is and has always been frequently out with injuries?
I hope I'm wrong, but the Knicks look done now. Like it or not, the Pacers are now the favorites in this series due to these injuries the Knicks have to deal with. Overcoming the OG injury is a bridge too far. If Indy win Game 5 tonight, then it'll be over in 6 when they return to Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indy. I hope I'm wrong and the Knicks ball out tonight and find a way, but my head tells me it's not gonna happen. My heart, of course, is another matter. #LGK
He is hurt a lot, BUT look at how much better this team is with him in the line-up. The Knicks have to re-sign him and just hope he can manage the injuries better. Just have to deal with it.
Couple of adjustments:
1) Start Deuce or Burks instead of Precious, Precious at the 4 simply doesnt work and everytime they start that way they start slow...He cant shoot and his defense and rebounding has nlt been good enough to justify starting him.
With Deuce or Burks it spreads out the Pacers, Siakim cant just freely help on everything and if he does, the corners are wide open.
2) With the new starting lineup, i am putting Ihart on Siakim and Hart on Turner. Turner doesnt want to post up all game, its not his game, he wants to stand on the perimiter and run pick and pop. If he does post up, send the double or quickly switch.
This also allows you to switch on every pick and pop they try to run and doesnt allow Haliburton to turn the corner.
3) Let Hart or divencenzo bring the ball up when Nesmith is on Brunson. Make Nembhard and Haliburton defend a little bit, run pick and roll and allow Hart or Divencenzo be the ball handler, Brunson will get his oppurtunities but this will allow him to not have to go crazy going 1 on 1.
4) Drive the lane, with 4 shooters on the court and Ihart the lane should be wide open and if they cknverge, kick and find the open man, make these guys habe to defend.
5) Deuce has to make them pay from 3, he has to knock down those open looks, if he does the defens eon Brunson will have to relax a little..In game 2 the 3s were falling and the Pacers had absolutely no answer
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not resigning OG will set this franchise back a lot
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as well. I gotta tell you, I love OG but I’m starting to think re-signing him may be a mistake. The guy is always hurt and not just here. Is this something the Knicks want to keep dealing with?
not resigning OG will set this franchise back a lot
They are fully committed to resigning OG they gave up a lot for him and it wasn't a half year rental.
Anyway this season ends we know what we have with Randle, bojan and Mitch next season. Hopefully Hartenstein takes a little hometown discount and stays around.
The team is built to contend.
As for tonight’s game, I think how they set the tone in the first will be key. Haliburton has been getting most of his points in the first quarter. If they can limit him and have a strong quarter I think they can hang with the pacers and hopefully have a chance to win it at the end. If we let them shoot wild from three early again, the game is over.
But what’s the plan to replace his productivity then? That’s the problem. We’d all love to find someone more reliable but we don’t have cap space. So what do you propose?
Ok so who is replacing him and how? you used 2 of your better assets to get him...
You still need to find a 2nd star, so hownyou getting a 2nd star and replacing your perfect fit 3rd guy?
43 and 48 in 2 shortened seasons that were hard on a lot of players..
67 the year after..
50 this year because he had a bone spur in his elbow
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as well. I gotta tell you, I love OG but I’m starting to think re-signing him may be a mistake. The guy is always hurt and not just here. Is this something the Knicks want to keep dealing with?
He is hurt a lot, BUT look at how much better this team is with him in the line-up. The Knicks have to re-sign him and just hope he can manage the injuries better. Just have to deal with it.
Hope is not a strategy to borrow a Steve Cohenism. If they re-sign him, which I'd be fine with, they need to learn how to manage him. He gets dinged. I've made the sports car analogy with him before. They need to manage his minutes and make an ultimatum to Thibs, Coughlin style cira post 2006. The goal with OG is to get him to the playoffs healthy and give him time off during the regular season as needed, NOT run him into the ground. OG is what he is. He's a FANTASTIC basketball player. We all see that and understand how important he is to the makeup of this team going forward. His agent is Leon Rose's son, so I'd say it's safe to assume the framework of a deal has already been worked out.
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Go look at how many games he’s played especially the past 3 seasons. It’s under 50 for the most part. I can’t see him being less injury prone as he gets older either. Also, the Knicks did not give up that much at all to get him. Quickley was leaving and they were able to dump Barrett’s contract. They gave up no picks. Again, when OG is playing he is an absolute difference maker for this team but they have to consider that he is potentially unreliable.
But what’s the plan to replace his productivity then? That’s the problem. We’d all love to find someone more reliable but we don’t have cap space. So what do you propose?
I don’t know what the answer to this is but Leon has been pretty good at figuring out these issues. Again, love the player but are we confident that his contract isn’t going to turn into a disaster? I’ll be happy either way as this team is going in a positive direction and I trust what Leon is doing.
As for tonight’s game, I think how they set the tone in the first will be key. Haliburton has been getting most of his points in the first quarter. If they can limit him and have a strong quarter I think they can hang with the pacers and hopefully have a chance to win it at the end. If we let them shoot wild from three early again, the game is over.
You hit the nail on the head regarding managing his minutes next season, assuming the NYK re-sign him (I think it's safe to say we all want him back despite the injuries). 30 mpg in the regular season and no back-to-backs is the way to go with him and then it gets ramped up in the playoffs of course.
Ask yourself why Randle forced things so much and why Brunson is now.
You know why. We're a 3 player team now.
We're fucked. Knicks could steal this series but we're not long for the postseason. We have no front court anymore. It's gone. We have no scoring wing on the bench. Matter of fact we don't even have a wing on the bench. We have one decent scoring guard on the bench but he's not a facilitator. One decent front court presence on the bench. And that's it. Our best rebounder is 6'4.
This turned south in a fucking hurry. We could handle Mitch being out if OG was out there because at least there would still be 3 elite starters on the floor if you think Hart is elite or at least brings an elite skill set. Ihart at least could hold center together but without Mitch the position is no longer elite. Now it's just OK.
Pray for a miracle and enjoy every minute that the Knicks are breathing.
6pm??
1) I'd start Burks not Deuce. Burks is a little bigger.
2) The Pacers have done a great job getting under the Knicks skin with physical play. The Knicks need to be physical with Haliburton and get in his head.
3) Def let someone else bring up the ball when they pickup Jalen full court.
4) McConnell - stop overplaying him - force him left and shooting outside shots
In the final analysis JVG said it best, it is make or miss league, if the Knicks are hitting 3's they can win this game.
Remember Imdiana got blown out in Game 5 in Milwaukee without Giannis as they were feeling too good about themselves and could have won Game 4.
I'd expect a better game from Brunson tonight and then he has 3 days of rest til Game 6.
Regarding OG, don't think we see him again in this series.
Agreed. Ihart is a nice defensive player maybe even better than that but certain matchups or moments can give him problems, just like any center can have moments of struggle. When you had Mitch you basically had a guarantee that one of the centers here was going to dominate. Not anymore. And then you have the minutes and fatigue issue.
tough breaks. What can you do. All I ask from the basketball gods is over the next 4-5 seasons give this franchise at least one or two postseason runs of good health. I think if they can get one of those charmed runs that only the scumbag lakers and celtics seem to enjoy we can win a chip. Not asking much. Just give the KNicks one fucking run that every other title team enjoys over and over again.
AJ do you get the vibe the Knicks will be ready to play tonight?
but you have:
a superstar in Brunson
your 3rd guy in OG who will play defense, shoot the 3 and is not a high usage player
elite role players in Divencenzo and Hart..
Hartenstein and Mitch are more than capable as your center, if you want tonuograde to a shooter no argument there..
You have the assets to go get the 2nd star next to Brunson and become a title contender
WHEN he's on the court, which hasn't been that often unfortunately.
As for tonight’s game, I think how they set the tone in the first will be key. Haliburton has been getting most of his points in the first quarter. If they can limit him and have a strong quarter I think they can hang with the pacers and hopefully have a chance to win it at the end. If we let them shoot wild from three early again, the game is over.
OG will get signed. His agent is Scott Rose. Leon’s son
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Is being emotional. The Knicks are an elite team with OG on the court.
WHEN he's on the court, which hasn't been that often unfortunately.
Outside of the two shortened seasons and this season because of a freak bone spur he’s played at least 67 games each year.
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Is being emotional. The Knicks are an elite team with OG on the court.
AJ do you get the vibe the Knicks will be ready to play tonight?
They won’t lay down. I think they win tonight.
Sunday was blown out of proportion because literally nobody could hit a shot and they had to chase the pacers up and down the court in transition because of that.
The question for the off-season is whether or not the Knicks upgrade or keep Randle.
The Houston Rockets are a real problem in the quest to get Bridges. It seems that Durant is more likely to get traded than Booker if anyone is traded from the Suns. Is Mitchell a fit. Brandan Ingram does not seem like a great fit.
1) I'd start Burks not Deuce. Burks is a little bigger.
2) The Pacers have done a great job getting under the Knicks skin with physical play. The Knicks need to be physical with Haliburton and get in his head.
3) Def let someone else bring up the ball when they pickup Jalen full court.
4) McConnell - stop overplaying him - force him left and shooting outside shots
In the final analysis JVG said it best, it is make or miss league, if the Knicks are hitting 3's they can win this game.
Remember Imdiana got blown out in Game 5 in Milwaukee without Giannis as they were feeling too good about themselves and could have won Game 4.
I'd expect a better game from Brunson tonight and then he has 3 days of rest til Game 6.
Regarding OG, don't think we see him again in this series.
Spot on. Great points about Burks and Indy's immaturity.
I would agree but his agent is Leon Rose's son, he went to CAA to specifically get traded to the Knicks
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He's definitely back. The big question for me is what does the contract look like. The Sixers have space and if PG resigned with the Clips, OG is an obvious target between Joel and Maxey. For OG, I could see anything from the Dejounte Murry deal (4/120) to a full max given the 76ers, but would guess something like 4/140. They can also now do a 5 year non-max too.
I would agree but his agent is Leon Rose's son, he went to CAA to specifically get traded to the Knicks
This new Knicks culture seems to get guys to sign a bit below market value and with descending values of their contract, I'm sure they will try to do the same with OG.
Down in games...bad stretches in the season...losing key players..
And they have so often surprised and WON.
I do not expect them to win tonight; but I will not be surprised if they pull another rabbit out of the hat and get back on track.
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He's definitely back. The big question for me is what does the contract look like. The Sixers have space and if PG resigned with the Clips, OG is an obvious target between Joel and Maxey. For OG, I could see anything from the Dejounte Murry deal (4/120) to a full max given the 76ers, but would guess something like 4/140. They can also now do a 5 year non-max too.
I would agree but his agent is Leon Rose's son, he went to CAA to specifically get traded to the Knicks
OMG I wouldn't be able to stomach him going to the 76ers.
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We need Brunson to get his head out of his ass. There is a reason we scored only 16 points in the 4th in game 3. He is forcing it too much and looking like Randle from years past. Shooting is a rhythm. If you are dominating the ball and only moving it when you get stuck, that isn't going to cut it. Basketball is such a simple sport. Move the ball and good things happen on offense.
Ask yourself why Randle forced things so much and why Brunson is now.
You know why. We're a 3 player team now.
We're fucked. Knicks could steal this series but we're not long for the postseason. We have no front court anymore. It's gone. We have no scoring wing on the bench. Matter of fact we don't even have a wing on the bench. We have one decent scoring guard on the bench but he's not a facilitator. One decent front court presence on the bench. And that's it. Our best rebounder is 6'4.
This turned south in a fucking hurry. We could handle Mitch being out if OG was out there because at least there would still be 3 elite starters on the floor if you think Hart is elite or at least brings an elite skill set. Ihart at least could hold center together but without Mitch the position is no longer elite. Now it's just OK.
Pray for a miracle and enjoy every minute that the Knicks are breathing.
Doesn't matter the reason. We have guys who csn shoot. Watching DD go off in the 3rd quarter only to get frozen out by Brunson in the 4th of game 3 was absurd. As everyone is saying, Brunson is hurt. Enough with the excuses. If Brunson is moving the ball and guys aren't stepping up then we'll cross thay bridge when we get there. To not give your teammates a chance is unacceptable, especially when you aren't 100%. Brunson admitted as much but you can keep dying on that sword.