OG is out again going to need big games from Divo and McBride if this team has any chance of recovering. Hopefully the MSG crowd is a factor. Let’s get this pivotal game!
obvious the value he brings to the team when he's on the floor. But is it smart to tie up $40m in cap space in a player who is and has always been frequently out with injuries?
It’s not difficult at all.
RE: The Knicks have a very difficult decision to make regarding OG. It's
obvious the value he brings to the team when he's on the floor. But is it smart to tie up $40m in cap space in a player who is and has always been frequently out with injuries?
The best wing defender in the league who can guard multiple positions and turns the team into contenders. Not difficult at all.
RE: The Knicks have a very difficult decision to make regarding OG. It's
obvious the value he brings to the team when he's on the floor. But is it smart to tie up $40m in cap space in a player who is and has always been frequently out with injuries?
How do you replace him then?
Remember Knicks still want to trade for a 2nd star, so how are you doing that and replacing OG?
the decision is not hard at all
RE: And I know everyone will point to the lack of offense
But their D has looked like shit. Guys are not closing out, you have two guys running to the same shooter meaning they don't understand their rotations, etc. The rebounding hasn't been good. Hart is on a mission but besides him, guys aren't really doing their jobs. We have to be better in both areas if they want to win.
But, as pointed out above, he has played a mostly full schedule, with the exception being shortened seasons and this year. His surgery this year was to correct an existing condition and the hammy is just one of those things. More than his offense, they need to re-sign him for his D. They are a very different team with him on the floor.
The recipe for wins in these playoffs has been DD getting off to a hot start with an electric home crowd.
He needs to put up 25+ for them to go into the 4th quarter with a good chance of winning tonight. They are just too injured and have too many impact guys out.
Bringing back OG is a no brainer. They are likely the 2nd best team in the east with him on the team, and really could be a finals contender next year with him healthy.
Hell, they are a finals contender THIS YEAR with him healthy.
The recipe for wins in these playoffs has been DD getting off to a hot start with an electric home crowd.
He needs to put up 25+ for them to go into the 4th quarter with a good chance of winning tonight. They are just too injured and have too many impact guys out.
Agreed. And that is with or without injuries...but more important with them. I said before the playoffs, he may be one of the most important keys to the entire post season (across the league). If he shoots like he did the 2nd half of the season and defends, he is a huge boost to this team. When he doesn't, they struggle.
How bout Lebron showing up last night at the Cleveland game?
But other guys don’t get the pass he’s seemingly getting. He’s the golden boy among a lot of NBA fans but he needs to deliver. He’s played like trash for the most part during these playoffs with Kyrie bailing him out. SGA is completely outplaying him in this series. Also I don’t think there’s anyone else in the league even close to him when it comes to whining for calls. He needs to stop, it’s ridiculous. Eagle even called him out for it.
SGA is a damn stud. I disagree with Shaq, Jokic deserved the MVP. But SGA was the right runner-up choice. Two way stud and scoring machine.
I think Minny’s size would overwhelm the Thunder in a potential series, but Edwards vs. SGA would be such an awesome battle.
Any talk of not resigning him is absurd. Even limiting his minutes or not playing back to backs doesn’t make sense. He’s a 26 year old elite athlete and his injuries haven’t been from wear and tear. It’s not like he has a chronic knee issue like Kawhi. Bone spur in the elbow, apendectomy, even the hamstring was a fluke play. Guys get injured, it’s the NBA.
You sign him and don’t think twice about it. He’s a tremendous player that couldn’t fit any better here.
This also shouldn’t be a surprise but I work with a woman he knows him very well. She said he’s a wonderful guy, really humble and nice.
We need Brunson to get his head out of his ass. There is a reason we scored only 16 points in the 4th in game 3. He is forcing it too much and looking like Randle from years past. Shooting is a rhythm. If you are dominating the ball and only moving it when you get stuck, that isn't going to cut it. Basketball is such a simple sport. Move the ball and good things happen on offense.
Ask yourself why Randle forced things so much and why Brunson is now.
You know why. We're a 3 player team now.
We're fucked. Knicks could steal this series but we're not long for the postseason. We have no front court anymore. It's gone. We have no scoring wing on the bench. Matter of fact we don't even have a wing on the bench. We have one decent scoring guard on the bench but he's not a facilitator. One decent front court presence on the bench. And that's it. Our best rebounder is 6'4.
This turned south in a fucking hurry. We could handle Mitch being out if OG was out there because at least there would still be 3 elite starters on the floor if you think Hart is elite or at least brings an elite skill set. Ihart at least could hold center together but without Mitch the position is no longer elite. Now it's just OK.
Pray for a miracle and enjoy every minute that the Knicks are breathing.
Doesn't matter the reason. We have guys who csn shoot. Watching DD go off in the 3rd quarter only to get frozen out by Brunson in the 4th of game 3 was absurd. As everyone is saying, Brunson is hurt. Enough with the excuses. If Brunson is moving the ball and guys aren't stepping up then we'll cross thay bridge when we get there. To not give your teammates a chance is unacceptable, especially when you aren't 100%. Brunson admitted as much but you can keep dying on that sword.
No excuses you're right. I wasn't using injury excuses for Brunson. Was just one of those bad games.
I expect their best tonight. I just hope its enough. They are comically short handed now.
But other guys don’t get the pass he’s seemingly getting. He’s the golden boy among a lot of NBA fans but he needs to deliver. He’s played like trash for the most part during these playoffs with Kyrie bailing him out.
Not even close to being accurate. Luka is averaging 27, 10 and 9 for the playoffs; Kyrie 22, 3 and 6. There's only been one game where Kyrie outscored Luka by more than 2 points; there have been a few where Luka outscored Kyrie by significant margins.
Luka didn't shoot particularly well last night, but he still triple-doubled (18, 12 and 10) and was a more useful than Kyrie, who put up 9 points in 41 minutes.
But other guys don’t get the pass he’s seemingly getting. He’s the golden boy among a lot of NBA fans but he needs to deliver. He’s played like trash for the most part during these playoffs with Kyrie bailing him out.
Not even close to being accurate. Luka is averaging 27, 10 and 9 for the playoffs; Kyrie 22, 3 and 6. There's only been one game where Kyrie outscored Luka by more than 2 points; there have been a few where Luka outscored Kyrie by significant margins.
Luka didn't shoot particularly well last night, but he still triple-doubled (18, 12 and 10) and was a more useful than Kyrie, who put up 9 points in 41 minutes.
He is shooting 40%, taking 20 shots a game, 26% from 3 and an EFG% of 45...
Luka has been awful and rumors of the team not enjoying playing next to him
He is shooting 40%, taking 20 shots a game, 26% from 3 and an EFG% of 45...
Luka has been awful and rumors of the team not enjoying playing next to him
Bottom line is Mavs won their first round series and are 2-2 against the number one seed, with Luka leading the way. He has not been outplayed by Kyrie by any stretch.
He is shooting 40%, taking 20 shots a game, 26% from 3 and an EFG% of 45...
Luka has been awful and rumors of the team not enjoying playing next to him
Bottom line is Mavs won their first round series and are 2-2 against the number one seed, with Luka leading the way. He has not been outplayed by Kyrie by any stretch.
He's shooting 40%. Brunson is shooting 43.8%.
You sure about that?
Kyrie is shooting 50%, 43% from 3, efg% of 58, averaging 22 on 16 shots...
Brunson is shooting 44% 30 % from 3 and 50% efg...32 ppg
50.8 TS% is an extremely poor mark for a player, let alone one who takes as many shots as him. Kyrie is at an elite 61.6 TS%. Saying Kyrie is “carrying him” might’ve been too much, but Kyrie is outplaying him these playoffs. Luka also brings nothing to the table on defense and off-ball, so when he isn’t scoring right then his overall value really dips.
I’m a fan of his, I just want him to be a better overall player. I still expect him to win MVPs and Finals MVPs in the future, but it’s fair to bring up how poorly he’s played.
Redick to the Lakers would be funny. Definitely seems like a bright guy for the most part but it just feels weird. Cassell is who Id go after based on the little I know about all these candidates.
Kyrie is shooting 50%, 43% from 3, efg% of 58, averaging 22 on 16 shots...
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You gotta take 'em to make 'em. That Luka's role. Kyrie only took 11 shots in 41 minutes last night. That might keep the percentage up, but it's not what the Mavs need to win the game.
At that, Mavs were one missed free throw (by Luka) last night from being tied with 10 seconds to go and a good chance to go up 3-1 on the one seed.
coukdnt help but think both teams would be perfrct 3rd teams in a deal where Mitchell comes to the Knicks and Randle goes to a 3rd team..
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Lakers got nothing to off..
With the zheat unless the Cavs are willing to take Butler, i dont see them beig able to outbid the Knicks..
The Lakers have a good offer to make of Reeves, Vincent and their future unprotected picks are very valuable.
The Heat can offer Hero, Jacquez and other young players and some picks.
The Knicks do not have any valuable player chips anymore, unless someone wants Randle.
Vincent is a nothing, he is not an asset..They also can only trade 25(after draft) and 29
Herro is a hlrrible fit for Cleveland, Herro and Garland backcourt is dog shit...They habe Jacquez and Jovic and thats it..only first they currently have available is 29 to trade..
coukdnt help but think both teams would be perfrct 3rd teams in a deal where Mitchell comes to the Knicks and Randle goes to a 3rd team..
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Lakers got nothing to off..
With the zheat unless the Cavs are willing to take Butler, i dont see them beig able to outbid the Knicks..
The Lakers have a good offer to make of Reeves, Vincent and their future unprotected picks are very valuable.
The Heat can offer Hero, Jacquez and other young players and some picks.
The Knicks do not have any valuable player chips anymore, unless someone wants Randle.
Is there another Gabe Vincent I'm unaware of? The one on the Lakers missed most of the year injured (shot 30% from the field) when he was not and had a 9.0 PER/.038 WS/48 with Miami the season prior
coukdnt help but think both teams would be perfrct 3rd teams in a deal where Mitchell comes to the Knicks and Randle goes to a 3rd team..
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Lakers got nothing to off..
With the zheat unless the Cavs are willing to take Butler, i dont see them beig able to outbid the Knicks..
The Lakers have a good offer to make of Reeves, Vincent and their future unprotected picks are very valuable.
The Heat can offer Hero, Jacquez and other young players and some picks.
The Knicks do not have any valuable player chips anymore, unless someone wants Randle.
Is there another Gabe Vincent I'm unaware of? The one on the Lakers missed most of the year injured (shot 30% from the field) when he was not and had a 9.0 PER/.038 WS/48 with Miami the season prior
Gabe Vincent might be a poor example as he was injured all year, but the Knicks only have picks and how valuable those picks is a question mark. Hero or Reeves are better than any player the Knicks can offer. The Knicks are not trading Donte and Mitch's value is probably not as strong as we might think around the league.
they have Jukius randle that is better Reeves and Herro..
Mcbride is on a 4 million a year salary for the next 3..
They 3x the drsft picks they can trade vs Lakers and Heat combined..
Nobody wants Herro, ill let you in on a little secret, the hest players hate him, the only reason he is still on the team is because Jimmy loves him, dude has been trade bait for 3 years and no one wants him
He has 1 year left on his deal and holds all the cards. He wants NY or Miami and will refuse to sign a long term deal else where.
Knicks have the inside track if they want him and he would be a great fit with Brunson offensively
I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Interesting on Herro, did know that. I just don't see the Nets trading the Knicks Bridges and I think the Rockets will get him if they do trade him.
It seems silly talking about next year with Game 5 tonight, but even if the Knicks get by the Pacers and that is a big IF, we all know they are still a player away and that player is probably one that is a solid wing, that replaces Randle.
I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Interesting on Herro, did know that. I just don't see the Nets trading the Knicks Bridges and I think the Rockets will get him if they do trade him.
It seems silly talking about next year with Game 5 tonight, but even if the Knicks get by the Pacers and that is a big IF, we all know they are still a player away and that player is probably one that is a solid wing, that replaces Randle.
It was mentioned yesterday but i think this offseasom is going to be really fun, i am not looking past these playoffs and certainly not giving up, but this offseasom could propel the Knicms into ckntender status
they have Jukius randle that is better Reeves and Herro..
Mcbride is on a 4 million a year salary for the next 3..
They 3x the drsft picks they can trade vs Lakers and Heat combined..
Nobody wants Herro, ill let you in on a little secret, the hest players hate him, the only reason he is still on the team is because Jimmy loves him, dude has been trade bait for 3 years and no one wants him
I've been told that most of the league views Randle as a 6th man off the bench, despite the All-Star numbers he puts up.
I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Interesting on Herro, did know that. I just don't see the Nets trading the Knicks Bridges and I think the Rockets will get him if they do trade him.
It seems silly talking about next year with Game 5 tonight, but even if the Knicks get by the Pacers and that is a big IF, we all know they are still a player away and that player is probably one that is a solid wing, that replaces Randle.
It was mentioned yesterday but i think this offseasom is going to be really fun, i am not looking past these playoffs and certainly not giving up, but this offseasom could propel the Knicms into ckntender status
I agree about this offseason. I wanna let these playoffs play out still of course, but I'm REALLY excited by the possibilities. The OG trade made in late December was transformative. This club was propelled into a higher rung of the Eastern Conference. I don't think they beat the Sixers without OG to be honest.
These guys can easily make a deal for another Shooting Guard or other player to join the starting 5 with the ammo they've got now and the situations we see throughout the association. Next year might be when this team's window opens for them to make deep playoff runs. They're primed. They need to get healthy too of course and re-sign some of their free agents (e.g., OG & Hartenstein).
they have Jukius randle that is better Reeves and Herro..
Mcbride is on a 4 million a year salary for the next 3..
They 3x the drsft picks they can trade vs Lakers and Heat combined..
Nobody wants Herro, ill let you in on a little secret, the hest players hate him, the only reason he is still on the team is because Jimmy loves him, dude has been trade bait for 3 years and no one wants him
I've been told that most of the league views Randle as a 6th man off the bench, despite the All-Star numbers he puts up.
Come on that's bullshit. Randle has his flaws but he's a 2 time all nba player. He's a good starter for the majority of the teams in the league.
And do you really want to pay Herro 30 million a year for the next 3 years? I would argue Donte, Deuce and Robinson have more trade value than him.
I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Both Bridges and George would be so fun to watch with OG on the wings defensively. Both guys would be great gets, although Bridges probably makes more sense due to age.
I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Both Bridges and George would be so fun to watch with OG on the wings defensively. Both guys would be great gets, although Bridges probably makes more sense due to age.
I thinj the Nets know Mikal doesnt eant tk be there and wants to be with his friends, the question is would they actually trade him here, i think Knicks would be willing to offer a lot of draft picks to do it
I'm less than confident. The OG injury seems like it was the last straw to me.
Talk me into believing, fellas.
Through 92 games this year including the playoffs, the Knicks FG% last game ranked as their 91st best percentage (79-73 L to Philly being the only one worse).
Their 3P% last game also ranked 91st out of 92 games.
They had maybe their worst shooting night of the year at a really bad time. But they're not going up against a defensive juggernaut, far from it. They just gotta get back in their groove.
I think they hold serve in MSG tonight, feels like a 7 game series without OG.
I'm less than confident. The OG injury seems like it was the last straw to me.
Talk me into believing, fellas.
I think the Knicks win tonight. Still the tougher team with the best player along with a raucous home crowd. Would love to get 20-30 points collectively from Burks/Deuce.
Any chance they try Shake Milton or anyone new tonight?
He seemingly changed his game this year to fit with the TEAM and was still producing. He scored a little less, but was still a 20/10 guy with some assists. A front court of him, OG, and Hartenstein, with Brunson and DiVincenzo is an excellent starting 5 and was the best team in the league for about a month. That bench looks so much better when it is Hart with Deuce and then Robinson or Precious.
He seemingly changed his game this year to fit with the TEAM and was still producing. He scored a little less, but was still a 20/10 guy with some assists. A front court of him, OG, and Hartenstein, with Brunson and DiVincenzo is an excellent starting 5 and was the best team in the league for about a month. That bench looks so much better when it is Hart with Deuce and then Robinson or Precious.
Calling him a 6th man is outrageous.
RE: RE: I don't get the shit directed at Randle here
He seemingly changed his game this year to fit with the TEAM and was still producing. He scored a little less, but was still a 20/10 guy with some assists. A front court of him, OG, and Hartenstein, with Brunson and DiVincenzo is an excellent starting 5 and was the best team in the league for about a month. That bench looks so much better when it is Hart with Deuce and then Robinson or Precious.
Calling him a 6th man is outrageous.
No shot that’s true. 3x All-Star, 2x All-NBA and he’s viewed as a bench player? Randle gets a bad rap because his body language sucks, and when things aren’t going well it looks even worse, but guys that can create their own shot, draw double teams like he does, and put up 23, 10, and 5 don’t just grow on trees.
Shit, everyone falls all over themselves for Paolo Banchero, and he plays a stylistically similar game to Randle. He’s 21 years old and doesn’t sulk so he’s viewed much differently, but if he ends up being a guy that averages 25-10-5 like Randle has done then is he going to be considered a bum like some here make Randle out to be?
I'm less than confident. The OG injury seems like it was the last straw to me.
Talk me into believing, fellas.
Pacers tried to throw a haymaker in game 4 and they thrw a good one, question is do the Knicks answer in game 5?
This team has gotten off the mat every time we expected them to be dead,i think you get a vintage game from Josh Hart and Isiah Hartenstein, i also Think Deuce will continue to get those wide open 3s and start to knock them down..
Knicks wednesday and thursday off after tinight, win tonight and your in the drivers seat going into game 6, well rested eith the possibikity of an OG return looming
Be prepared for the Pacers to come out hard tonight
and looking to put the nail in the coffin. I fully expect a barrage of three-point attempts and very physical defense to start the game. The Pacers and their fans all feel like they are swinging a 15 inch dick right now. I’d love to punt it right back into their body.
The Knicks really need to set the tone early in this game with their defense. Don’t let them breathe and stop giving them wide-open three-point shots.
It’s not difficult at all.
The best wing defender in the league who can guard multiple positions and turns the team into contenders. Not difficult at all.
How do you replace him then?
Remember Knicks still want to trade for a 2nd star, so how are you doing that and replacing OG?
the decision is not hard at all
He needs to put up 25+ for them to go into the 4th quarter with a good chance of winning tonight. They are just too injured and have too many impact guys out.
Hell, they are a finals contender THIS YEAR with him healthy.
He needs to put up 25+ for them to go into the 4th quarter with a good chance of winning tonight. They are just too injured and have too many impact guys out.
Who the Lakers hire will be a huge tell on Lebron's future...
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Who the Lakers hire will be a huge tell on Lebron's future...
It is not only that, he wants them to draft his son and trade future picks for an established veteran like Trae Young.
SGA is a damn stud. I disagree with Shaq, Jokic deserved the MVP. But SGA was the right runner-up choice. Two way stud and scoring machine.
I think Minny’s size would overwhelm the Thunder in a potential series, but Edwards vs. SGA would be such an awesome battle.
You sign him and don’t think twice about it. He’s a tremendous player that couldn’t fit any better here.
This also shouldn’t be a surprise but I work with a woman he knows him very well. She said he’s a wonderful guy, really humble and nice.
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We need Brunson to get his head out of his ass. There is a reason we scored only 16 points in the 4th in game 3. He is forcing it too much and looking like Randle from years past. Shooting is a rhythm. If you are dominating the ball and only moving it when you get stuck, that isn't going to cut it. Basketball is such a simple sport. Move the ball and good things happen on offense.
Ask yourself why Randle forced things so much and why Brunson is now.
You know why. We're a 3 player team now.
We're fucked. Knicks could steal this series but we're not long for the postseason. We have no front court anymore. It's gone. We have no scoring wing on the bench. Matter of fact we don't even have a wing on the bench. We have one decent scoring guard on the bench but he's not a facilitator. One decent front court presence on the bench. And that's it. Our best rebounder is 6'4.
This turned south in a fucking hurry. We could handle Mitch being out if OG was out there because at least there would still be 3 elite starters on the floor if you think Hart is elite or at least brings an elite skill set. Ihart at least could hold center together but without Mitch the position is no longer elite. Now it's just OK.
Pray for a miracle and enjoy every minute that the Knicks are breathing.
Doesn't matter the reason. We have guys who csn shoot. Watching DD go off in the 3rd quarter only to get frozen out by Brunson in the 4th of game 3 was absurd. As everyone is saying, Brunson is hurt. Enough with the excuses. If Brunson is moving the ball and guys aren't stepping up then we'll cross thay bridge when we get there. To not give your teammates a chance is unacceptable, especially when you aren't 100%. Brunson admitted as much but you can keep dying on that sword.
No excuses you're right. I wasn't using injury excuses for Brunson. Was just one of those bad games.
I expect their best tonight. I just hope its enough. They are comically short handed now.
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Not even close to being accurate. Luka is averaging 27, 10 and 9 for the playoffs; Kyrie 22, 3 and 6. There's only been one game where Kyrie outscored Luka by more than 2 points; there have been a few where Luka outscored Kyrie by significant margins.
Luka didn't shoot particularly well last night, but he still triple-doubled (18, 12 and 10) and was a more useful than Kyrie, who put up 9 points in 41 minutes.
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coukdnt help but think both teams would be perfrct 3rd teams in a deal where Mitchell comes to the Knicks and Randle goes to a 3rd team..
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Lakers got nothing to off..
With the zheat unless the Cavs are willing to take Butler, i dont see them beig able to outbid the Knicks..
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But other guys don’t get the pass he’s seemingly getting. He’s the golden boy among a lot of NBA fans but he needs to deliver. He’s played like trash for the most part during these playoffs with Kyrie bailing him out.
Not even close to being accurate. Luka is averaging 27, 10 and 9 for the playoffs; Kyrie 22, 3 and 6. There's only been one game where Kyrie outscored Luka by more than 2 points; there have been a few where Luka outscored Kyrie by significant margins.
Luka didn't shoot particularly well last night, but he still triple-doubled (18, 12 and 10) and was a more useful than Kyrie, who put up 9 points in 41 minutes.
He is shooting 40%, taking 20 shots a game, 26% from 3 and an EFG% of 45...
Luka has been awful and rumors of the team not enjoying playing next to him
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JJ Redick is the front runner to land the head coaching job with the Lakers, per @jovanbuha
“Right now, I believe JJ Redick is slightly ahead of the field”
He is shooting 40%, taking 20 shots a game, 26% from 3 and an EFG% of 45...
Luka has been awful and rumors of the team not enjoying playing next to him
Bottom line is Mavs won their first round series and are 2-2 against the number one seed, with Luka leading the way. He has not been outplayed by Kyrie by any stretch.
He's shooting 40%. Brunson is shooting 43.8%.
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He is shooting 40%, taking 20 shots a game, 26% from 3 and an EFG% of 45...
Luka has been awful and rumors of the team not enjoying playing next to him
Bottom line is Mavs won their first round series and are 2-2 against the number one seed, with Luka leading the way. He has not been outplayed by Kyrie by any stretch.
He's shooting 40%. Brunson is shooting 43.8%.
You sure about that?
Kyrie is shooting 50%, 43% from 3, efg% of 58, averaging 22 on 16 shots...
Brunson is shooting 44% 30 % from 3 and 50% efg...32 ppg
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coukdnt help but think both teams would be perfrct 3rd teams in a deal where Mitchell comes to the Knicks and Randle goes to a 3rd team..
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Lakers got nothing to off..
With the zheat unless the Cavs are willing to take Butler, i dont see them beig able to outbid the Knicks..
The Lakers have a good offer to make of Reeves, Vincent and their future unprotected picks are very valuable.
The Heat can offer Hero, Jacquez and other young players and some picks.
The Knicks do not have any valuable player chips anymore, unless someone wants Randle.
I’m a fan of his, I just want him to be a better overall player. I still expect him to win MVPs and Finals MVPs in the future, but it’s fair to bring up how poorly he’s played.
Redick to the Lakers would be funny. Definitely seems like a bright guy for the most part but it just feels weird. Cassell is who Id go after based on the little I know about all these candidates.
You sure about that?
Kyrie is shooting 50%, 43% from 3, efg% of 58, averaging 22 on 16 shots...
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You gotta take 'em to make 'em. That Luka's role. Kyrie only took 11 shots in 41 minutes last night. That might keep the percentage up, but it's not what the Mavs need to win the game.
At that, Mavs were one missed free throw (by Luka) last night from being tied with 10 seconds to go and a good chance to go up 3-1 on the one seed.
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coukdnt help but think both teams would be perfrct 3rd teams in a deal where Mitchell comes to the Knicks and Randle goes to a 3rd team..
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Lakers got nothing to off..
With the zheat unless the Cavs are willing to take Butler, i dont see them beig able to outbid the Knicks..
The Lakers have a good offer to make of Reeves, Vincent and their future unprotected picks are very valuable.
The Heat can offer Hero, Jacquez and other young players and some picks.
The Knicks do not have any valuable player chips anymore, unless someone wants Randle.
Vincent is a nothing, he is not an asset..They also can only trade 25(after draft) and 29
Herro is a hlrrible fit for Cleveland, Herro and Garland backcourt is dog shit...They habe Jacquez and Jovic and thats it..only first they currently have available is 29 to trade..
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coukdnt help but think both teams would be perfrct 3rd teams in a deal where Mitchell comes to the Knicks and Randle goes to a 3rd team..
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Lakers got nothing to off..
With the zheat unless the Cavs are willing to take Butler, i dont see them beig able to outbid the Knicks..
The Lakers have a good offer to make of Reeves, Vincent and their future unprotected picks are very valuable.
The Heat can offer Hero, Jacquez and other young players and some picks.
The Knicks do not have any valuable player chips anymore, unless someone wants Randle.
Is there another Gabe Vincent I'm unaware of? The one on the Lakers missed most of the year injured (shot 30% from the field) when he was not and had a 9.0 PER/.038 WS/48 with Miami the season prior
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coukdnt help but think both teams would be perfrct 3rd teams in a deal where Mitchell comes to the Knicks and Randle goes to a 3rd team..
Both teams are close and dont necassarily need a superstar but they could both use a PF that can bang down low, grab reboubds and play off thier stars
The Lakers and Heat are hot after Mitchell too, not going to be so easy to get him.
Lakers got nothing to off..
With the zheat unless the Cavs are willing to take Butler, i dont see them beig able to outbid the Knicks..
The Lakers have a good offer to make of Reeves, Vincent and their future unprotected picks are very valuable.
The Heat can offer Hero, Jacquez and other young players and some picks.
The Knicks do not have any valuable player chips anymore, unless someone wants Randle.
Is there another Gabe Vincent I'm unaware of? The one on the Lakers missed most of the year injured (shot 30% from the field) when he was not and had a 9.0 PER/.038 WS/48 with Miami the season prior
Gabe Vincent might be a poor example as he was injured all year, but the Knicks only have picks and how valuable those picks is a question mark. Hero or Reeves are better than any player the Knicks can offer. The Knicks are not trading Donte and Mitch's value is probably not as strong as we might think around the league.
Mcbride is on a 4 million a year salary for the next 3..
They 3x the drsft picks they can trade vs Lakers and Heat combined..
Nobody wants Herro, ill let you in on a little secret, the hest players hate him, the only reason he is still on the team is because Jimmy loves him, dude has been trade bait for 3 years and no one wants him
Knicks have the inside track if they want him and he would be a great fit with Brunson offensively
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Interesting on Herro, did know that. I just don't see the Nets trading the Knicks Bridges and I think the Rockets will get him if they do trade him.
It seems silly talking about next year with Game 5 tonight, but even if the Knicks get by the Pacers and that is a big IF, we all know they are still a player away and that player is probably one that is a solid wing, that replaces Randle.
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I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Interesting on Herro, did know that. I just don't see the Nets trading the Knicks Bridges and I think the Rockets will get him if they do trade him.
It seems silly talking about next year with Game 5 tonight, but even if the Knicks get by the Pacers and that is a big IF, we all know they are still a player away and that player is probably one that is a solid wing, that replaces Randle.
It was mentioned yesterday but i think this offseasom is going to be really fun, i am not looking past these playoffs and certainly not giving up, but this offseasom could propel the Knicms into ckntender status
Mcbride is on a 4 million a year salary for the next 3..
They 3x the drsft picks they can trade vs Lakers and Heat combined..
Nobody wants Herro, ill let you in on a little secret, the hest players hate him, the only reason he is still on the team is because Jimmy loves him, dude has been trade bait for 3 years and no one wants him
I've been told that most of the league views Randle as a 6th man off the bench, despite the All-Star numbers he puts up.
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I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Interesting on Herro, did know that. I just don't see the Nets trading the Knicks Bridges and I think the Rockets will get him if they do trade him.
It seems silly talking about next year with Game 5 tonight, but even if the Knicks get by the Pacers and that is a big IF, we all know they are still a player away and that player is probably one that is a solid wing, that replaces Randle.
It was mentioned yesterday but i think this offseasom is going to be really fun, i am not looking past these playoffs and certainly not giving up, but this offseasom could propel the Knicms into ckntender status
I agree about this offseason. I wanna let these playoffs play out still of course, but I'm REALLY excited by the possibilities. The OG trade made in late December was transformative. This club was propelled into a higher rung of the Eastern Conference. I don't think they beat the Sixers without OG to be honest.
These guys can easily make a deal for another Shooting Guard or other player to join the starting 5 with the ammo they've got now and the situations we see throughout the association. Next year might be when this team's window opens for them to make deep playoff runs. They're primed. They need to get healthy too of course and re-sign some of their free agents (e.g., OG & Hartenstein).
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they have Jukius randle that is better Reeves and Herro..
Mcbride is on a 4 million a year salary for the next 3..
They 3x the drsft picks they can trade vs Lakers and Heat combined..
Nobody wants Herro, ill let you in on a little secret, the hest players hate him, the only reason he is still on the team is because Jimmy loves him, dude has been trade bait for 3 years and no one wants him
I've been told that most of the league views Randle as a 6th man off the bench, despite the All-Star numbers he puts up.
Come on that's bullshit. Randle has his flaws but he's a 2 time all nba player. He's a good starter for the majority of the teams in the league.
And do you really want to pay Herro 30 million a year for the next 3 years? I would argue Donte, Deuce and Robinson have more trade value than him.
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Both Bridges and George would be so fun to watch with OG on the wings defensively. Both guys would be great gets, although Bridges probably makes more sense due to age.
Talk me into believing, fellas.
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I think Knicks end up with Mikal or Paul George, that is the type of player they want to add..
Knicks know what it would realistically take to get Mitchell, they had talks with Cleveland before the deadline, didnt go anywhere because they had no interest but the cavs know the Knicks best offer and Knicks know what it would take..
I think Nets are desperate and will try to offer everything under the aun to get him
Both Bridges and George would be so fun to watch with OG on the wings defensively. Both guys would be great gets, although Bridges probably makes more sense due to age.
I thinj the Nets know Mikal doesnt eant tk be there and wants to be with his friends, the question is would they actually trade him here, i think Knicks would be willing to offer a lot of draft picks to do it
Talk me into believing, fellas.
Through 92 games this year including the playoffs, the Knicks FG% last game ranked as their 91st best percentage (79-73 L to Philly being the only one worse).
Their 3P% last game also ranked 91st out of 92 games.
They had maybe their worst shooting night of the year at a really bad time. But they're not going up against a defensive juggernaut, far from it. They just gotta get back in their groove.
I think they hold serve in MSG tonight, feels like a 7 game series without OG.
Talk me into believing, fellas.
I think the Knicks win tonight. Still the tougher team with the best player along with a raucous home crowd. Would love to get 20-30 points collectively from Burks/Deuce.
Any chance they try Shake Milton or anyone new tonight?
Calling him a 6th man is outrageous.
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He seemingly changed his game this year to fit with the TEAM and was still producing. He scored a little less, but was still a 20/10 guy with some assists. A front court of him, OG, and Hartenstein, with Brunson and DiVincenzo is an excellent starting 5 and was the best team in the league for about a month. That bench looks so much better when it is Hart with Deuce and then Robinson or Precious.
Calling him a 6th man is outrageous.
No shot that’s true. 3x All-Star, 2x All-NBA and he’s viewed as a bench player? Randle gets a bad rap because his body language sucks, and when things aren’t going well it looks even worse, but guys that can create their own shot, draw double teams like he does, and put up 23, 10, and 5 don’t just grow on trees.
Shit, everyone falls all over themselves for Paolo Banchero, and he plays a stylistically similar game to Randle. He’s 21 years old and doesn’t sulk so he’s viewed much differently, but if he ends up being a guy that averages 25-10-5 like Randle has done then is he going to be considered a bum like some here make Randle out to be?
Talk me into believing, fellas.
Pacers tried to throw a haymaker in game 4 and they thrw a good one, question is do the Knicks answer in game 5?
This team has gotten off the mat every time we expected them to be dead,i think you get a vintage game from Josh Hart and Isiah Hartenstein, i also Think Deuce will continue to get those wide open 3s and start to knock them down..
Knicks wednesday and thursday off after tinight, win tonight and your in the drivers seat going into game 6, well rested eith the possibikity of an OG return looming
The Knicks really need to set the tone early in this game with their defense. Don’t let them breathe and stop giving them wide-open three-point shots.