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NFT: Pacers @ Knicks - Game 5 - 8 PM

Doubledeuce22 : 5/14/2024 7:57 am
OG is out again going to need big games from Divo and McBride if this team has any chance of recovering. Hopefully the MSG crowd is a factor. Let’s get this pivotal game!
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Hopefully the Rangers take inspiration from this  
Greg from LI : 5/14/2024 10:53 pm : link
That’s how you come back after an embarrassing loss.
RE: A lot of us called for McBride in the starting lineup  
Matt M. : 5/14/2024 10:53 pm : link
In comment 16515232 bceagle05 said:
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right when OG was ruled out. Made a big difference.
Excellent decision. Both McBride and Precious played better as a result.
What a way to respond!  
Anakim : 5/14/2024 10:55 pm : link
God I love seeing Haliburton eat shit. Where’s your chirping now!?!?
RE: Can the Knicks resign both OG and Hartenstien?  
Optimus-NY : 5/14/2024 10:55 pm : link
In comment 16515242 Chef said:
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Yes. Mitch might need to go though.
RE: Can the Knicks resign both OG and Hartenstien?  
Anakim : 5/14/2024 10:56 pm : link
In comment 16515242 Chef said:
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I think so? Especially if we move on from Robinson, which we should
RE: RE: Can the Knicks resign both OG and Hartenstien?  
Matt M. : 5/14/2024 10:56 pm : link
In comment 16515247 Optimus-NY said:
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Yes. Mitch might need to go though.
Might?
RE: Can the Knicks resign both OG and Hartenstien?  
larryflower37 : 5/14/2024 10:58 pm : link
In comment 16515242 Chef said:
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Yes they can . The question is how high they will go on Hartenstein and do they try and move Mitch.
iHart and Burks were beastly  
Anakim : 5/14/2024 10:58 pm : link
Even if OG returns, Burks has earned his way onto the rotation
RE: Didnt see Haliburton  
Del Shofner : 5/14/2024 10:58 pm : link
In comment 16515231 nygiants16 said:
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did he play? I didnt see him dancing or screaming like an idiot or pointing at Knicks defenders and laughing...


Obi was like minus infinity too.

Carlisle crying in the postgame. Very unlikable dude.
BTW you thjnk divencenzo  
nygiants16 : 5/14/2024 10:58 pm : link
took Haliburton taunting him and pointing at him tk heart?
RE: RE: Can the Knicks resign both OG and Hartenstien?  
Anakim : 5/14/2024 10:58 pm : link
In comment 16515250 larryflower37 said:
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Yes they can . The question is how high they will go on Hartenstein and do they try and move Mitch.


They have to move on from Mitch. He’s proven he can’t stay healthy.
Mitch is great at what he does but so one dimensional  
Greg from LI : 5/14/2024 11:01 pm : link
And he can’t stay healthy
Knew they wouldn’t lay down  
ajr2456 : 5/14/2024 11:02 pm : link
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I like seeing all the former Knicks players at the game  
Anakim : 5/14/2024 11:04 pm : link
And I think it’s cool that you have guys who were traded for one another (e.g. Starks/Spree; Carmelo/Chandler) hanging out and laughing it up. Now we just need Keith Van Horn to come to a game and hang with Tim Thomas!


Also, they need to bring Oakley back
Mitch has two guaranteed years left  
shyster : 5/14/2024 11:05 pm : link
If it's so obvious that the Knicks should move on from him because he can't stay healthy, why is anyone else going to take him?

I'd bet he's back.
RE: Knew they wouldn’t lay down  
bluefin : 5/14/2024 11:05 pm : link
In comment 16515258 ajr2456 said:
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+1, bc this team never quits - but I never imagined a 30pt blowout
If Oakley is gonna come back  
Greg from LI : 5/14/2024 11:05 pm : link
Then he should apologize to Patrick. But he won’t.
RE: I like seeing all the former Knicks players at the game  
nygiants16 : 5/14/2024 11:07 pm : link
In comment 16515259 Anakim said:
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And I think it’s cool that you have guys who were traded for one another (e.g. Starks/Spree; Carmelo/Chandler) hanging out and laughing it up. Now we just need Keith Van Horn to come to a game and hang with Tim Thomas!


Also, they need to bring Oakley back


How many teams in the NBA get that? I mean why wouldnt you want to play here, look at the support, even guys who didnt win shit and keft on bad terms are coming back..

Look at fricken Marbury man
RE: I like seeing all the former Knicks players at the game  
Anakim : 5/14/2024 11:08 pm : link
In comment 16515259 Anakim said:
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And I think it’s cool that you have guys who were traded for one another (e.g. Starks/Spree; Carmelo/Chandler) hanging out and laughing it up. Now we just need Keith Van Horn to come to a game and hang with Tim Thomas and Spree!


Also, they need to bring Oakley back


Fixed
Ewing is 100x the Knick Oakley was. He made his bed now he can stay  
steve in ky : 5/14/2024 11:11 pm : link
In it. I don’t care if he ever returns
RE: RE: Can the Knicks resign both OG and Hartenstien?  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/14/2024 11:12 pm : link
In comment 16515250 larryflower37 said:
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Yes they can . The question is how high they will go on Hartenstein and do they try and move Mitch.

The Knicks are limited to giving Hartenstein 175% of his current salary. If somebody else wants him bad enough they won’t be able to keep him.
RE: RE: RE: Can the Knicks resign both OG and Hartenstien?  
Eightshamrocks : 5/14/2024 11:17 pm : link
In comment 16515266 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Yes they can . The question is how high they will go on Hartenstein and do they try and move Mitch.


The Knicks are limited to giving Hartenstein 175% of his current salary. If somebody else wants him bad enough they won’t be able to keep him.
Harstenstein doesn't have to leave. Maybe he'll take a home town discount with the 175% to chase a ring. You never know.
Turner is a low key dirty player  
Matt M. : 5/14/2024 11:18 pm : link
And Van Gundy is full of shit on all those screens. Turner throws his body at contact.
Divencenzo jjst called Turner soft haha  
nygiants16 : 5/14/2024 11:25 pm : link
Basically said they are acting like tough guys and thats not who they are
RE: Mitch has two guaranteed years left  
JoeSchoens11 : 5/14/2024 11:25 pm : link
In comment 16515260 shyster said:
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If it's so obvious that the Knicks should move on from him because he can't stay healthy, why is anyone else going to take him?

I'd bet he's back.
They are 2 years at a reasonable salary. Mitch was expected to be out for the year but came back at less than 100%. Philly did a lot of cheap shots to his knees otherwise he may still be playing.

Don’t forget, especially with the praise iHart is getting for tonight’s game, Mitch is our best offensive rebounder. If we run it back next year with this same team then iHart’s minutes will protect Mitch just as JR’s can protect OG.
Pacers seemed like a team  
nygiants16 : 5/14/2024 11:29 pm : link
that came in thinking they accomlished something and that they though Knicks were done after game 4..

They got a 7 point lead and thought ok, Knicks are dead
Looks like Draymond is joining KnicksFanTV on Thursday.  
bceagle05 : 5/14/2024 11:50 pm : link
This is how the game is played I guess - take some shots at the Knicks, go on a Knicks podcast, both sides pick up a few followers along the way, everybody's happy.
Notice how the Knicks walked off the court tonight  
nygiants16 : 5/14/2024 11:56 pm : link
and notice how the Pacers acted and walked off the court after game 4..

1 team means businness and knows what it takes to win, the other thinks their big ahit and is just going to continue to talk
DDV couldn’t hit a shot and was in foul trouble  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/15/2024 1:34 am : link
but I thought he played really well.

Alec Burks pulled another Fournier.

Hartenstein finally grabbed some damn rebounds.

Precious played very well in the second quarter.

I bring these guys up because they will have to play well in Indiana to close the series out. It can’t just be Brunson cooking for 45 minutes.
Some of you really have short memories.  
robbieballs2003 : 5/15/2024 6:52 am : link
Why are we so quick to get rid of Mitch and sign IHart? Did we forget how Embiid was bitching out IHart? Did we forget that IHart was doing shit this whole series until last night? This isn't a shit on IHart post. What I am saying is that the combination of both IHart and Mitch is a perfect combo at C. Neither one is perfect. They both have their flaws but their flaws and strengths complement each other. Let's not forget how crucial it was to have Mitch back against Philly. We probably don't win that series without Mitch. I get the injuries. It's annoying. However, a lot of big men are like that. The point of this post is just to show how important each player is to the success of this team. IHart should have been playing this way all series. We all said this series benefits him more than Mitch because the style of play. I'm glad he finally showed up in such a pivotal game.
what a performance  
Victor in CT : 5/15/2024 7:34 am : link
it's clear that Brunson was compromised in game 4. He had jump from the get go last night. Good move starting McBride. Gave them more speed and D.
RE: Looks like Draymond is joining KnicksFanTV on Thursday.  
Optimus-NY : 5/15/2024 7:39 am : link
In comment 16515277 bceagle05 said:
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This is how the game is played I guess - take some shots at the Knicks, go on a Knicks podcast, both sides pick up a few followers along the way, everybody's happy.


I'd bet CP is ready for that one, lol.
RE: Some of you really have short memories.  
Mike in NJ : 5/15/2024 7:49 am : link
In comment 16515295 robbieballs2003 said:
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Why are we so quick to get rid of Mitch and sign IHart? Did we forget how Embiid was bitching out IHart? Did we forget that IHart was doing shit this whole series until last night? This isn't a shit on IHart post. What I am saying is that the combination of both IHart and Mitch is a perfect combo at C. Neither one is perfect. They both have their flaws but their flaws and strengths complement each other. Let's not forget how crucial it was to have Mitch back against Philly. We probably don't win that series without Mitch. I get the injuries. It's annoying. However, a lot of big men are like that. The point of this post is just to show how important each player is to the success of this team. IHart should have been playing this way all series. We all said this series benefits him more than Mitch because the style of play. I'm glad he finally showed up in such a pivotal game.


Was about to post something similar. What’s the reason to run Mitch out of town? The guy was a beast, playing on one leg, against Embiid in round 1. He’s arguably the best offensive rebounder in the league (although looks like he’s rubbed off on ihart), an excellent defender, and has a dirt cheap contract.

Robinson signed a descending contract, he’s due to make 14 and 13 mil the next two years. Who are you finding that does what Mitch does for that cost? Even if he only plays 25 minutes per game next year, or misses 20 games, having the ability to deploy Mitch or Hartenstein depending on the matchup is worth the cost.

I think with Mitch  
nygiants16 : 5/15/2024 7:55 am : link
its more about fit with starters and also cap gymnastics, i dont think you want 30 to 35 million tied up to the center position unless you got a big time player there..

OG is going to get around 35 million a year..

Brunson is going to sign an extension either this year or next and he is going to be over 40.

Whether you keep Randle or trade for a guy that 2nd guy is going to be over 40..

You got Hart at 18 next year and Divencenzo at 11, with deuce at 4..

If you dont make a trade Bojan is at 22..

It adds up and you want to remain flexible because that 2nd apron is coming and you want to be set with a championship contender before you go over it
Boomer and Gio were saying  
Chris684 : 5/15/2024 8:11 am : link
Friday night's game is at 6pm if the Cavs win tonight and extend that series but 8:30 if Boston closes out? Is that true?

I mean, 6pm is a bit early no?
RE: Boomer and Gio were saying  
robbieballs2003 : 5/15/2024 8:14 am : link
In comment 16515338 Chris684 said:
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Friday night's game is at 6pm if the Cavs win tonight and extend that series but 8:30 if Boston closes out? Is that true?

I mean, 6pm is a bit early no?


Better than 9.
RE: RE: Boomer and Gio were saying  
Chris684 : 5/15/2024 8:17 am : link
In comment 16515341 robbieballs2003 said:
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Friday night's game is at 6pm if the Cavs win tonight and extend that series but 8:30 if Boston closes out? Is that true?

I mean, 6pm is a bit early no?



Better than 9.


I guess to each their own. I'll take 9 over 6 any day.
RE: Boomer and Gio were saying  
aimrocky : 5/15/2024 8:17 am : link
In comment 16515338 Chris684 said:
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Friday night's game is at 6pm if the Cavs win tonight and extend that series but 8:30 if Boston closes out? Is that true?

I mean, 6pm is a bit early no?


That's correct

RE: I think with Mitch  
Optimus-NY : 5/15/2024 8:18 am : link
In comment 16515323 nygiants16 said:
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its more about fit with starters and also cap gymnastics, i dont think you want 30 to 35 million tied up to the center position unless you got a big time player there..

OG is going to get around 35 million a year..

Brunson is going to sign an extension either this year or next and he is going to be over 40.

Whether you keep Randle or trade for a guy that 2nd guy is going to be over 40..

You got Hart at 18 next year and Divencenzo at 11, with deuce at 4..

If you dont make a trade Bojan is at 22..

It adds up and you want to remain flexible because that 2nd apron is coming and you want to be set with a championship contender before you go over it


Exactly.
Do we have enough cap space to resign both OG and IHart  
Ira : 5/15/2024 8:19 am : link
?
RE: Do we have enough cap space to resign both OG and IHart  
Mike in NJ : 5/15/2024 8:28 am : link
In comment 16515351 Ira said:
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The Knicks are an over the cap team. They will be able to sign OG with Bird rights and Hartenstein with early bird rights. Issue with Hartenstein is they can only offer him 16-17 million, as much as they want to keep him the reality is someone else might offer him more than the Knicks are able to.
RE: Do we have enough cap space to resign both OG and IHart  
nygiants16 : 5/15/2024 8:30 am : link
In comment 16515351 Ira said:
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They can make it work and still be under the apron, i think you will see some maneuvering
Picking up my daughter from college Friday in MD I realllllly hope  
Stu11 : 5/15/2024 9:04 am : link
the game is 8:30 though its realllllly hard to root for the Celtics. I got a real dilemma tonight I guess huh? haha
Good win last night Gents  
JT039 : 5/15/2024 9:08 am : link
one to go!
RE: Picking up my daughter from college Friday in MD I realllllly hope  
Chris684 : 5/15/2024 9:13 am : link
In comment 16515434 Stu11 said:
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the game is 8:30 though its realllllly hard to root for the Celtics. I got a real dilemma tonight I guess huh? haha


My daughter is in 1st grade and playing softball and I'm loving her games. I will be there no matter what so it's either miss the 1st half of the Knicks, or enjoy both games in the entirety. But let's be honest, C's are in all likelihood closing out tonight.
RE: Picking up my daughter from college Friday in MD I realllllly hope  
nygiants16 : 5/15/2024 9:13 am : link
In comment 16515434 Stu11 said:
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the game is 8:30 though its realllllly hard to root for the Celtics. I got a real dilemma tonight I guess huh? haha


Whether you root or not, Celtics are endjng it tonight, most likely no Mitchell and Allen, Celtics at home they are going to want to end it tonight
Couple of observations from last night  
nygiants16 : 5/15/2024 9:58 am : link
Pacers played that game like they were up 3-1, not tied 2-2, they came in and went up 7 and it looked like they though oh they are done., they got nothing left..

Imagine being down 20 and to start the 4th keeping Brunson on the bench rsther than keeping him on the court and seeing if they vould cut into the lead?

One big moment in this game Knicks down 7 to start and they looked a little tentative and Hart hit a 3 to cut it to 4 and the energy picked uo immediately..

Knicks started doing the guard-guard pick and pop like they did against Cleveland, Pacers are put into a spot with Deuce starting of if they double Deuce is the first pass and can knock down the 3 or drive and swing or do they switch and leave Haliburton to get cooked?

Defensively the Knicks switched everything, they are not scared of the bigs of Indiana posting up because its simply not their game, they want to move the ball and spread you out and being smaller they sinply just switched..

Carslisle made a comment of well the Pacers havnt been in this position before, series tied 2-2 and thats how they played how they going to react in a must win game?
Also something no one is talking about  
nygiants16 : 5/15/2024 10:01 am : link
it wasnt Burks who pushed Jackson in the neck, it was Hartenstein, Knicks are lucky he didnt get 2 techs
 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/15/2024 10:02 am : link
Is the NBA fucking serious with a potential Game 7 tipping at 1230 on Sunday after a Friday night game?
RE: RE: Picking up my daughter from college Friday in MD I realllllly hope  
Stu11 : 5/15/2024 10:03 am : link
In comment 16515453 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 16515434 Stu11 said:


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the game is 8:30 though its realllllly hard to root for the Celtics. I got a real dilemma tonight I guess huh? haha



Whether you root or not, Celtics are endjng it tonight, most likely no Mitchell and Allen, Celtics at home they are going to want to end it tonight

Yeah I agree. 90+% we are playing 8:30 Friday. Damn Bicketstaff must be running those guys into the ground with all the minutes :-)
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