fans of other teams have no clue what is going on with another team.. i just follow what the experts have to say.. and about DJ if you get him comfortable back there again he will be good.. Danny has balls and thats what i think the coaching staff loves about him but he took a beating the last few years.. Sure TT and Tommy did better they were coming in fresh with a line that could at least hold up a couple of seconds but they also got demolished as the OL couldnt hold up against better DLs
I'd love for a deep expose into what people see in Jones. I really would. Yeah-as you said Sean-he seems like a nice kid & works hard, but the facts are the facts & he's just not a good QB. Not an attack on his character or whatever, but he's just not good @ the position he plays. & he's gotten more rope than anyone I can ever recall as a Giant. It is beyond weird. While I'm not saying Mara is pulling the strings-he might be, he might not be...I don't know-I wonder if Simms' & Eli's early struggles have created an organizational mindset of, 'Well those guys struggled early & became Super Bowl MVP QBs so maybe Jones can became one too'...I don't know. I really don't.
It's depressing AF that we're going into year fucking six with Jones, but here we are. & unless he balls out this season, I hope he's gone after this season. Hell, I hope the leash on him this fall is short & if he struggles, it's time to hit the bench kid. I'm not saying Lock is some great shake either, but from what I've seen/read...he'll @ least chuck the rock down the field. Jones hasn't done that since his rookie season.
RE: RE: I mean it's got to go beyond nice kid and works hard
I'd love for a deep expose into what people see in Jones. I really would. Yeah-as you said Sean-he seems like a nice kid & works hard, but the facts are the facts & he's just not a good QB. Not an attack on his character or whatever, but he's just not good @ the position he plays. & he's gotten more rope than anyone I can ever recall as a Giant. It is beyond weird. While I'm not saying Mara is pulling the strings-he might be, he might not be...I don't know-I wonder if Simms' & Eli's early struggles have created an organizational mindset of, 'Well those guys struggled early & became Super Bowl MVP QBs so maybe Jones can became one too'...I don't know. I really don't.
It's depressing AF that we're going into year fucking six with Jones, but here we are. & unless he balls out this season, I hope he's gone after this season. Hell, I hope the leash on him this fall is short & if he struggles, it's time to hit the bench kid. I'm not saying Lock is some great shake either, but from what I've seen/read...he'll @ least chuck the rock down the field. Jones hasn't done that since his rookie season.
I think the fact that we tried to draft Maye illustrates that this probably his last year here
Fair rebuttal, though I've seen here & elsewhere-Sy for example-thought the whole 'Trying to trade up for Maye' was a charade to move up for someone like Harrison or have someone move up & push someone back. I know Schefer said it was for Alt, though I don't buy that.
Fair rebuttal, though I've seen here & elsewhere-Sy for example-thought the whole 'Trying to trade up for Maye' was a charade to move up for someone like Harrison or have someone move up & push someone back. I know Schefer said it was for Alt, though I don't buy that.
Why I think the smokescreen narrative is BS…
Schoen was scouting all of the top QB’s in person last year and in the evaluation phase before the draft they spent a TON of time between workouts and in person visits with all of them except Nix
while the Giants did publicly back Jones, to an extent, every action they took, and the public perception, was that they are ready to move on. You simply don't allow your starting QB to be dragged through the mud like that, and you don't excite the fan base by making them think they're getting a new QB, just as a ruse.
Even if DJ was in on the scam, it has to take a toll. Allowing everyone to think they're done with DJ, while secretly having no intention of moving on, is a dumb idea, and the payoff is minimal.
The smokescreen advocates are unwilling to believe anything other than Giants love DJ, so they spew this garbage to back their narrative.
Sixteen of sixteen mock drafts collected at the Huddle Report on the eve of the draft had Giants taking a WR. See link.
The notion that "everyone" thought Giants were moving on from Jones is a strawman.
When the Giants signed Drew Lock in March, my posted response was that the Giants were not going to have Jones, Lock and a first round QB on their roster. And, what do you know, they don't.
Most of the experts don't say this. Very few do.
I'd love for a deep expose into what people see in Jones. I really would. Yeah-as you said Sean-he seems like a nice kid & works hard, but the facts are the facts & he's just not a good QB. Not an attack on his character or whatever, but he's just not good @ the position he plays. & he's gotten more rope than anyone I can ever recall as a Giant. It is beyond weird. While I'm not saying Mara is pulling the strings-he might be, he might not be...I don't know-I wonder if Simms' & Eli's early struggles have created an organizational mindset of, 'Well those guys struggled early & became Super Bowl MVP QBs so maybe Jones can became one too'...I don't know. I really don't.
It's depressing AF that we're going into year fucking six with Jones, but here we are. & unless he balls out this season, I hope he's gone after this season. Hell, I hope the leash on him this fall is short & if he struggles, it's time to hit the bench kid. I'm not saying Lock is some great shake either, but from what I've seen/read...he'll @ least chuck the rock down the field. Jones hasn't done that since his rookie season.
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I'd love for a deep expose into what people see in Jones. I really would. Yeah-as you said Sean-he seems like a nice kid & works hard, but the facts are the facts & he's just not a good QB. Not an attack on his character or whatever, but he's just not good @ the position he plays. & he's gotten more rope than anyone I can ever recall as a Giant. It is beyond weird. While I'm not saying Mara is pulling the strings-he might be, he might not be...I don't know-I wonder if Simms' & Eli's early struggles have created an organizational mindset of, 'Well those guys struggled early & became Super Bowl MVP QBs so maybe Jones can became one too'...I don't know. I really don't.
It's depressing AF that we're going into year fucking six with Jones, but here we are. & unless he balls out this season, I hope he's gone after this season. Hell, I hope the leash on him this fall is short & if he struggles, it's time to hit the bench kid. I'm not saying Lock is some great shake either, but from what I've seen/read...he'll @ least chuck the rock down the field. Jones hasn't done that since his rookie season.
I think the fact that we tried to draft Maye illustrates that this probably his last year here
I’m not sure why people keep overlooking that
Why I think the smokescreen narrative is BS…
Schoen was scouting all of the top QB’s in person last year and in the evaluation phase before the draft they spent a TON of time between workouts and in person visits with all of them except Nix
Their actions speak for themselves
Even if DJ was in on the scam, it has to take a toll. Allowing everyone to think they're done with DJ, while secretly having no intention of moving on, is a dumb idea, and the payoff is minimal.
The smokescreen advocates are unwilling to believe anything other than Giants love DJ, so they spew this garbage to back their narrative.
Precisely. It's not a strategy any normal person would pursue.
"No. They just wanted you to think they were done with Jones. Genius!"
Sixteen of sixteen mock drafts collected at the Huddle Report on the eve of the draft had Giants taking a WR. See link.
The notion that "everyone" thought Giants were moving on from Jones is a strawman.
When the Giants signed Drew Lock in March, my posted response was that the Giants were not going to have Jones, Lock and a first round QB on their roster. And, what do you know, they don't.
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