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Del Shofner : 5/14/2024 11:57 pm
Another win, Rodon looked good.

I read that the Yanks have the most RBIs from the #9 spot in MLB.

That can't be bad.
Yep, 28-15 on the year. Not too shabby.  
bceagle05 : 5/14/2024 11:59 pm : link
Volpe's heating up again too.
What was with the bullshit Kay was saying  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/15/2024 1:26 am : link
about El Marciano? Verdugo and Stanton are going to have to hit better than they are now to keep their lineup spots. He was acting as if those two are putting up 1.000 OPS instead of being barely above league average. While there’s no need to rush him, the idea that there’s nowhere for him to play is ridiculous.
RE: What was with the bullshit Kay was saying  
k2tampa : 5/15/2024 7:17 am : link
In comment 16515284 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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about El Marciano? Verdugo and Stanton are going to have to hit better than they are now to keep their lineup spots. He was acting as if those two are putting up 1.000 OPS instead of being barely above league average. While there’s no need to rush him, the idea that there’s nowhere for him to play is ridiculous.


Dominguez was brought up last year as a September call up for a team out of the playoff race. He has 31 MLB at bats and 16 at AAA. He is coming off TJ surgery. He will be in SWB all season barring a Yankee injury, or, if he's tearing up AAA, a trade of Verdugo.

As frustrating as Stanton is he's on pace for about 35 HRs. You don't bench guys who can hit 35 HRs, especially when you're paying him $25 million a year.
RE: What was with the bullshit Kay was saying  
Tony in Tampa : 5/15/2024 7:20 am : link
In comment 16515284 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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about El Marciano? Verdugo and Stanton are going to have to hit better than they are now to keep their lineup spots. He was acting as if those two are putting up 1.000 OPS instead of being barely above league average. While there’s no need to rush him, the idea that there’s nowhere for him to play is ridiculous.

I think the idea is there's no rush to play Dominguez if there's not an open spot on the roster when his rehab is over. He's a rookie with options for the minors. If all the starters are playing decently well, not hurt and the Yanks are winning there is no need to find a spot to play him this season. And they don't want him to be a bench player when he could be an everyday player in Scranton. Next year they may move pieces around to find him a starting role.

Whether Soto stays or goes will effect him and Spencer Jones. Makes sense to me. Nice problem to have.
RE: What was with the bullshit Kay was saying  
section125 : 5/15/2024 7:23 am : link
In comment 16515284 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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about El Marciano? Verdugo and Stanton are going to have to hit better than they are now to keep their lineup spots. He was acting as if those two are putting up 1.000 OPS instead of being barely above league average. While there’s no need to rush him, the idea that there’s nowhere for him to play is ridiculous.


I've been saying that for a while. He'll be in SWB. He needs a lot of ABs weekly. They cannot afford to sit him on the bench and only get a few ABs a week.
I thought he had 10 games last fall, he had only 8.

He needs to get lots of playing time in SWB and that probably means we wouldn't see him until near the trade deadline. If he gets his groove back, they will find a spot for him, likely by trading Grisham. If he starts playing a lot of LF in SWB, that will give us a clue as to their plan.

But no, he is not taking over Stanton's DH role this year and he is not replacing Verdugo in LF right away. I can see him coming up and then getting games in the dog days to spell Judge, Soto and Verdugo. IMHO, he needs to be in a minimum 4 to 5 games per week to develop.

I will be as happy as anyone to see him back. But they are not rushing it. There is no need to do so now.
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RE: RE: What was with the bullshit Kay was saying  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/15/2024 8:07 am : link
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about El Marciano? Verdugo and Stanton are going to have to hit better than they are now to keep their lineup spots. He was acting as if those two are putting up 1.000 OPS instead of being barely above league average. While there’s no need to rush him, the idea that there’s nowhere for him to play is ridiculous.



Dominguez was brought up last year as a September call up for a team out of the playoff race. He has 31 MLB at bats and 16 at AAA. He is coming off TJ surgery. He will be in SWB all season barring a Yankee injury, or, if he's tearing up AAA, a trade of Verdugo.

As frustrating as Stanton is he's on pace for about 35 HRs. You don't bench guys who can hit 35 HRs, especially when you're paying him $25 million a year.


Stanton during his recent “hot streak” has just two RBIs on two solo HRs. His OBP is below 300 overall and during this recent “hot stretch”. Verdugo’s OPS+ is 109. His wOBA is decidedly average. Neither of these guys are irreplaceable
I understand that there are overwhelming financial considerations in  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/15/2024 8:15 am : link
Stanton. If Dominguez struggles in the minors then there’s no issue. But if he tears it up then he shouldn’t be kept down just to run out those two guys at their current production level.
RE: RE: RE: What was with the bullshit Kay was saying  
section125 : 5/15/2024 8:20 am : link
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about El Marciano? Verdugo and Stanton are going to have to hit better than they are now to keep their lineup spots. He was acting as if those two are putting up 1.000 OPS instead of being barely above league average. While there’s no need to rush him, the idea that there’s nowhere for him to play is ridiculous.



Dominguez was brought up last year as a September call up for a team out of the playoff race. He has 31 MLB at bats and 16 at AAA. He is coming off TJ surgery. He will be in SWB all season barring a Yankee injury, or, if he's tearing up AAA, a trade of Verdugo.

As frustrating as Stanton is he's on pace for about 35 HRs. You don't bench guys who can hit 35 HRs, especially when you're paying him $25 million a year.



Stanton during his recent “hot streak” has just two RBIs on two solo HRs. His OBP is below 300 overall and during this recent “hot stretch”. Verdugo’s OPS+ is 109. His wOBA is decidedly average. Neither of these guys are irreplaceable


So you want to replace proven MLBers with a guy coming off TJS with 16 games in AAA and 8 games MLB, ASAP? They do not need to do that. There is absolutely no need to rush Dominguez. None.

We all would like to see Stanton get traded. Verdugo is playing stellar OF with an excellent arm and I will take better than league OPS+ combined with that defense. He is on a one year deal, so unlikely to be here next year.

Meh I don't know why sports fans just can't live in the moment  
Stu11 : 5/15/2024 8:42 am : link
always have to worry about months from now. He just starteda rehab assisgnment yesterday and had no Spring Training. He'll be down there for at least 21 days and then they'll figure out if they want to option him or not. Its a long season a month from now one of the OF/DH could easily be hurt. Enjoy how well they are playing. If Cole could come back and pitch the rest of the season with a trade tweak or 2 this team could really go places. The starting pitching has been off the charts good without Cole even throwing a pitch.
I think the understated story of the season so far is Rodon  
Stu11 : 5/15/2024 8:52 am : link
They signed him to be a solid #2 behind Cole. Last season was an utter disaster for him with injuries and overall innefectiveness. The fact that he has returned to that form of 2 years ago is huge going forward.
Dominguez just turned 21  
Greg from LI : 5/15/2024 8:55 am : link
And has played all of eight MLB games. Let's just calm down and see how this plays out. Let him go to Scranton and get some plate appearances and see how he does, and how he can throw.
RE: I think the understated story of the season so far is Rodon  
section125 : 5/15/2024 8:57 am : link
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They signed him to be a solid #2 behind Cole. Last season was an utter disaster for him with injuries and overall innefectiveness. The fact that he has returned to that form of 2 years ago is huge going forward.


I think he was fat and out of shape last year. He has to be 15 lbs lighter this year. He looks good. He embarrassed himself last season and put the time in over the Winter.

It also helps Gil has come back from TJS and looks better than ever.

I think Matt Blake is doing an outstanding job with the pitching staff. I have also seen Cole working with the young guys. Guy is a total pitching geek.
If Gil can stay healthy, and cut down on the walks a bit  
Greg from LI : 5/15/2024 9:02 am : link
He's a legit ace. Opposing batters hitting a mere .144 off him. That's nuts.
Yanks should also do whatever they can  
UConn4523 : 5/15/2024 9:06 am : link
to keep Stanton’s trade value as high as possible. If that means delaying Dominguez than so be it.
RE: If Gil can stay healthy, and cut down on the walks a bit  
section125 : 5/15/2024 9:07 am : link
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He's a legit ace. Opposing batters hitting a mere .144 off him. That's nuts.


Agreed. Between Blake and Cole(and his arm getting stronger) I think he will continue to improve until they pull the plug on his innings after the AS break.
Look how lights out Clay Holmes has been  
Eightshamrocks : 5/15/2024 9:40 am : link
I'm not exactly sure what Cashman is waiting for-you have re-sign this guy.
RE: Yanks should also do whatever they can  
section125 : 5/15/2024 9:48 am : link
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to keep Stanton’s trade value as high as possible. If that means delaying Dominguez than so be it.


I agree fundamentally, but if Stanton's trade value stays high, that means he is hitting well and driving in runs. If that is the case, they are not moving on from him. Can you imagine getting rid of a 30+ HR, 75/80 rbi guy?(well yeah we can) Cash isn't doing that unless the other team is eating most of the contract.
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Semipro Lineman : 5/15/2024 10:20 am : link
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to keep Stanton’s trade value as high as possible. If that means delaying Dominguez than so be it.



I agree fundamentally, but if Stanton's trade value stays high, that means he is hitting well and driving in runs. If that is the case, they are not moving on from him. Can you imagine getting rid of a 30+ HR, 75/80 rbi guy?(well yeah we can) Cash isn't doing that unless the other team is eating most of the contract.


If Stanton stays the course and finishes with his projected stats, I suspect that Cash would make that trade to free up money for resigning Soto.


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UConn4523 : 5/15/2024 10:27 am : link
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to keep Stanton’s trade value as high as possible. If that means delaying Dominguez than so be it.



I agree fundamentally, but if Stanton's trade value stays high, that means he is hitting well and driving in runs. If that is the case, they are not moving on from him. Can you imagine getting rid of a 30+ HR, 75/80 rbi guy?(well yeah we can) Cash isn't doing that unless the other team is eating most of the contract.


I’d consider that a great problem to have.
RE: RE: What was with the bullshit Kay was saying  
djm : 5/15/2024 10:39 am : link
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about El Marciano? Verdugo and Stanton are going to have to hit better than they are now to keep their lineup spots. He was acting as if those two are putting up 1.000 OPS instead of being barely above league average. While there’s no need to rush him, the idea that there’s nowhere for him to play is ridiculous.



Dominguez was brought up last year as a September call up for a team out of the playoff race. He has 31 MLB at bats and 16 at AAA. He is coming off TJ surgery. He will be in SWB all season barring a Yankee injury, or, if he's tearing up AAA, a trade of Verdugo.

As frustrating as Stanton is he's on pace for about 35 HRs. You don't bench guys who can hit 35 HRs, especially when you're paying him $25 million a year.


I will keep saying it. The Martian will be playing for the Yanks this summer. No way in hell is he stashed all season down on the farm if healthy.

When did the Yanks depth in the OF go from meh to anything special? Their starting left fielder is a slappy hitter who won't sniff 800 OPS. Their DH is one pulled muscle from the inevitable injury stint. Their backups are journeymen.

We need the Martian even when everyone is healthy. He's coming up when he's healthy.
good point though  
djm : 5/15/2024 11:23 am : link
no point in worrying about Martian landings just yet. Team is winning and he's rehabbing. Things will take care of itself.
What if he struggles in Scranton?  
Greg from LI : 5/15/2024 11:30 am : link
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how quickly the turn tables  
bigbluehoya : 5/15/2024 11:44 am : link
outfield a glut in the intermediate term with. Judge Soto Verdugo Jones Martian Pereira.

Infield more shaky, with a UFA Torres not playing well and likely asking too much, injured/declining DJLM, UFA Rizzo. Peraza and Vivas are pieces to consider, but not as much there long term as the outfield.

For now you keep grinding as is, and a lot of this shakes itself out, but there are things to consider.

Ryan McMahon is a guy who would make a ton of sense to think about as the trade deadline approaches. (who would have thought we'd be worrying about a guy making the NYY TOO left-handed?). 3-position flexibility and can rake, on a great contract.
I just hope Yanks keep moving away from  
56goat : 5/15/2024 12:33 pm : link
hitters who try to hit HRs every at-bat. That works in the regular season against watered-down pitching staffs, but not so much in the playoffs. Soto is a good hitter who happens to hit HRs. Stanton on the other hand...
RE: RE: RE: What was with the bullshit Kay was saying  
section125 : 5/15/2024 12:41 pm : link
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I will keep saying it. The Martian will be playing for the Yanks this summer. No way in hell is he stashed all season down on the farm if healthy.

When did the Yanks depth in the OF go from meh to anything special? Their starting left fielder is a slappy hitter who won't sniff 800 OPS. Their DH is one pulled muscle from the inevitable injury stint. Their backups are journeymen.

We need the Martian even when everyone is healthy. He's coming up when he's healthy.


He will come up, if they trade Verdugo and/or Grisham. They are not letting him wilt on the bench. This is a prospect with 16 AAA games and 8 MLB games total.

Let us see him OPS over .800 at SWB consistently. What is the rush?
RE: What if he struggles in Scranton?  
djm : 5/15/2024 1:28 pm : link
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Then he stays down there. I don't believe he will.
RE: What if he struggles in Scranton?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/15/2024 1:34 pm : link
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Then the discussion is moot.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think Michael Kay just says stuff out of his ass during Yankees games. (His radio show? Sure.) He basically made it sound like it doesn’t matter what Dominguez does in the minors because there’s nowhere for him to play in the Yankees lineup.

My objection to that was the people Kay was talking about (specifically Verdugo & Stanton) aren’t playing so well that one could/should make a statement like that. And I truly hope that doesn’t mirror the thinking of the actual decision makers.
Just saw  
Semipro Lineman : 5/15/2024 1:36 pm : link
this posted about Dominguez's rehab splint in the minors as he got a hit in his first at bat
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section125 : 5/15/2024 3:04 pm : link
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Then the discussion is moot.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think Michael Kay just says stuff out of his ass during Yankees games. (His radio show? Sure.) He basically made it sound like it doesn’t matter what Dominguez does in the minors because there’s nowhere for him to play in the Yankees lineup.

My objection to that was the people Kay was talking about (specifically Verdugo & Stanton) aren’t playing so well that one could/should make a statement like that. And I truly hope that doesn’t mirror the thinking of the actual decision makers.


Shock, it doesn't take a scout to understand that the kid has has 8 MLB games and only 16 AAA games under his belt and then he had TJS. They are not risking his arm or his development when Verdugo is playing good baseball(like it or not, he is) and Stanton is plodding along toward 30+ HRs and 75+ rbis.

If one of the 3 starting OF has a medical hiccup come late July or August and Dominguez is doing well, yeah I'd guess they would bring him up.

I just cannot understand the rush to bring him up. He had 31 ABs and a .258 BA, pretty decent but not great numbers. He was probably brought up last year to put asses in the seats. If he tears up AAA with ridiculous numbers, yeah go get him. But the team is doing very well right now. Also, who know what happens at the trade deadline. They might use Verdugo/Grisham for a BP arm.

I am not going to bitch if they do decide to bring him up obviously. I am just not going to expect to see him before Aug 1st.
If anyone hasn't noticed, the Yanks clearly love Verdugo  
wigs in nyc : 5/15/2024 3:15 pm : link
It's not the Yankee way to sit a veteran who is performing, and, I know he's not an All-Star, but I'm surprised to see any talk diminishing his contribution thus far.

For all of us bemoaning the endless parade of righty three-true-outcome hitters over the past few years, we're now going to criticize a guy for being a lefty-slappy hitter? The balance and the difference is the point.

It's working. If there's room for Dominguez to play every day he'll get the nod. If not, next year.
I agree that they aren't going to cut Verdugo's  
bigbluehoya : 5/15/2024 3:35 pm : link
playing time by much if at all, and the only questions around him are how earnestly they try to retain him after this year.
RE: If anyone hasn't noticed, the Yanks clearly love Verdugo  
HBart : 5/15/2024 3:49 pm : link
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It's not the Yankee way to sit a veteran who is performing, and, I know he's not an All-Star, but I'm surprised to see any talk diminishing his contribution thus far.

For all of us bemoaning the endless parade of righty three-true-outcome hitters over the past few years, we're now going to criticize a guy for being a lefty-slappy hitter? The balance and the difference is the point.

It's working. If there's room for Dominguez to play every day he'll get the nod. If not, next year.

+1
The intangibles with Verdugo matter. Until/unless something bad happens -- injuries or extended losing streaks -- I can't see them changing the OF.

It's a good problem to have -- if it's really a problem at all, which I don't think it is.
People are understandably anxious to see Dominguez  
bceagle05 : 5/15/2024 3:56 pm : link
after the first impression he made last season - I know it was a cameo, but he flashed some serious potential. There will most likely be an injury situation this season that opens up a role for him temporarily, and we'll see if he performs well enough to force the Yankees to keep him around.
All that being said, if/when the Yankees make the post-season  
wigs in nyc : 5/15/2024 3:58 pm : link
I wouldn't be shocked to see Dominguez make the Playoff Roster over Grisham.
you all make good pts about the numbers game  
djm : 5/15/2024 4:13 pm : link
and I do like Verdugo and think he is an every day player. I guess it makes sense to have JD down on the farm hitting and fielding every day compared to periodic activity up in the bigs but have a hard time believing he stays down there for long if either the lineup needs a jolt OR any one of VErdugo, Stanton or the big two are injured.

As stated, not worth worrying about for now. Good problem to have.
RE: All that being said, if/when the Yankees make the post-season  
mitch300 : 5/15/2024 6:24 pm : link
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I wouldn't be shocked to see Dominguez make the Playoff Roster over Grisham.

Great point! Grisham can’t hit for shit. I know it’s tuff sitting on the bench for 6 straight games and then getting some at bats.
Judge hit one 467 feet a few mins ago  
Greg from LI : 5/15/2024 8:01 pm : link
.306/.433/.694 in his last 15 games. I think it’s safe to say he’s back in business now.
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