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Here's what Denver Sports' Cecil Lammey wrote after Saturday's practice. "Nix can throw deep with accuracy, and Broncos HC Sean Payton knows that. While I can’t tell you precisely how due to Broncos media policy, I do want to emphasize that on Saturday we did see evidence that Payton will have Nix on the attack – and Nix can make those throws! It was fun to see the Payton offense with Nix running the show, and it was thrilling to see how Payton was crafting ways for Nix to go deep," Lammey wrote. |
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In comment 16516909 gersh said:
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In comment 16516301 Darwinian said:
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In comment 16516284 christian said:
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There are several fans on this site who think Slayton is the fourth best receiver on the team. If Nabers, Hyatt, and Robinson are better -- the Giants have one of the best and deepest groups in the league. If Jones is better than Nix, McCarthy, and Penix he should have a field day with this group.
Yes, they are not there yet, but there is a chance this is a stellar unit. Jones needs to throw 30 to 35 TDs. If he can't do that, he's completely useless.
I guess Hyatt and WanDale have the potential to be better than Slayton, but they're not there yet. Slayton is pretty good. I bet he gets just as many snaps as those two guys.
"Jones needs to throw 30 to 35 TDs. If he can't do that, he's completely useless."
Hmm - who were you before?
I just looked it up
Only 1 QB threw for 35 TDs last season
Only 4 QBs threw 30 or more TDs last season
Mahomes threw 27
You've set a high bar to not be useless
You're being too literal.. I'll take 29 if we get 4100 yards, or 28. You're missing the point. he's got 62TDs in 60 starts. His production is pathetic, and instead of calling it what it is you're playing semantic games with me, which means, if we dig a little deeper you won't have a leg to stand on. Jones fails the stats test and the eye test. But you want to defend a $100M bonus baby who had probably the very worst season a player has ever had after signing a giant contract. Just admit you're in denial. And you have the temerity to bring Stroud up. Stroud had a better season as a rookie than Jones has ever had, by a wide margin. 4100 yards whereas Jones' career high is 3200. 8.2 Y/A whereas Jones' career high is 6.8.
“Jones needs to throw 30 to 35 TDs. If he can't do that, he's completely useless."
I’m sorry for taking what you said as what you meant.
Did you mean disappointing rather than totally useless? Not great?
Just because you are setting ridiculous standards doesn’t mean that I’m defending DJ. I’m merely pointing out that you’re a smart idiot. You’re clearly smart but made an idiotic argument.
I’m hoping as much as anyone that we find DJ’s replacement by next season, but that doesn’t mean that he has to be a top 5 QB this year to justify anything.
He peaked at the right moment and got overpaid. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
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It’s been said 10000 times they they are moving on from DJ after this year unless there’s an absolute miracle. By going so hard trying to trade up to 3 for Maye shows you they’re done with DJ. They obviously didn’t like Nix, McCarthy or Penix.
Nobody forgets there's a draft, we're curious how they plan on drafting a QB if they're sitting at 8-10 in 2025 after passing on 3 QBs at #6 this year.
If it was a "reach" this year, why wouldn't it be a reach next year in a similar or worse draft slot?
The possibility of a qb the Giants like being available in the 8-10 range is not unrealistic. Different draft, different players, different evaluations. If the Giants honestly decided that those other 3 qb's had a higher chance of not developing at the NFL level then I can't blame them for passing. So, the big question is why do you/we believe the Giants passed on those qb's, and how certain are we of our opinions?
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It’s been said 10000 times they they are moving on from DJ after this year unless there’s an absolute miracle. By going so hard trying to trade up to 3 for Maye shows you they’re done with DJ. They obviously didn’t like Nix, McCarthy or Penix.
Nobody forgets there's a draft, we're curious how they plan on drafting a QB if they're sitting at 8-10 in 2025 after passing on 3 QBs at #6 this year.
If it was a "reach" this year, why wouldn't it be a reach next year in a similar or worse draft slot?
8 wins? You think they’re winning 8 games with this schedule with DJ or Lock at QB? Everyone here thinks DJ is so terrible that they will easily be in the top 10 again.
Also all the teams that desperately needed QBs took one this year outside of the Giants and Raiders. Maybe the Titans if they don’t believe in Levi’s this year. The Seahawks and Browns possibly but they will be much lower than us. So without many teams fighting over the QBs, the Giants should be able to move up. The top 3 teams this year weren’t budging no matter what. Next year should be easier to move up.
It still goes back to Schoen didn’t like the other QBs. Obviously he loved Nabers. Most people here are losing their minds over not getting a QB and think we’re just sticking with DJ long term. It’s simply not the case. They will draft a QB next year.