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Haha. God, Mike Lombardi hates the Giants.

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/15/2024 5:18 pm
He was on Bill Simmons’ podcast earlier and when asked-after LVR and Carolina-who the worst team in the NFL is, he didn’t even hesitate and say ‘The Giants.’

Apparently he isn’t a fan of Burns either. ‘He’s not making them any better.’

I think Lombardi has been right a lot when it comes to the Giants, but it seems weirdly personal to him. Did we pass him over for a job or something?
It's funny because he defended the Raiders  
Sean : 5/15/2024 5:22 pm : link
while his son was there. And the Pats are good but just needed a kicker. He's got favorites.
The thing about him is  
moespree : 5/15/2024 5:29 pm : link
He does have points about the Giants that most would agree with. And frankly, he's not wrong on most of his criticism over the years.

He's just an insufferable douchebag jerk though. It's tough to listen to anything he says because of it.
Blowhard  
JT039 : 5/15/2024 5:29 pm : link
Asshole should be his nickname
He may hate the Giants  
pjcas18 : 5/15/2024 5:30 pm : link
no idea. I honestly cannot or choose not to differentiate between all these talking heads, but.....

if you google "who is the worst team in the NFL"

almost every single response has the Giants in the "top" 5 worst teams, most in the top 3 worst teams.

So, hatred or no hatred is it really unreasonable to say the Giants?

I love the giants  
GiantsFan84 : 5/15/2024 5:35 pm : link
I think they may be the worst team in the league too.
Lombardi  
Toth029 : 5/15/2024 5:35 pm : link
Isn't a fan of Brian Burns but wasted the 6th overall on Barkevious Mingo.

Sorry Joe, eat his shorts.
pjcas.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/15/2024 5:36 pm : link
Haha, no. But he does seem to have a personal axe to grind against the team. And this is coming from someone who thinks he’s right more than wrong when it comes to the Giants. I do think he thinks very highly of himself though.
It’s no different than BBI  
UConn4523 : 5/15/2024 5:39 pm : link
you can be critical and be right but if it’s just pissing and moaning than it isn’t providing any value - and in Lombardi case, he’s a professional who’s paid for it which makes it worse.

That said I didn’t hear what he said so maybe I’m wrong.
If the Giants are that bad, yikes  
Sean : 5/15/2024 5:40 pm : link
Schoen has spent a lot.
It is what it is  
Go Terps : 5/15/2024 5:44 pm : link
Vegas doesn't hate the Giants.

Glad he thinks the Giants are the worst team  
BillT : 5/15/2024 5:50 pm : link
And glad there are folks here who think so as well. And they all can point to the terrible years we’ve had and they’d be right. It’s the low hanging fruit that’s always a popular target. Negativism is in vogue nowadays.
I get confused between Lombardi and Lombardo  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/15/2024 5:52 pm : link
...Is this the guy who was a former GM?

Of is this the guy who was an Eagles fan that was a beat reporter for a hot minute for NJ.com?

Either way, they both have an agenda
RE: Glad he thinks the Giants are the worst team  
Go Terps : 5/15/2024 5:52 pm : link
In comment 16516102 BillT said:
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And glad there are folks here who think so as well. And they all can point to the terrible years we’ve had and they’d be right. It’s the low hanging fruit that’s always a popular target. Negativism is in vogue nowadays.


Observing reality is not negativity.
RE: RE: Glad he thinks the Giants are the worst team  
BillT : 5/15/2024 5:57 pm : link
In comment 16516106 Go Terps said:
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In comment 16516102 BillT said:


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And glad there are folks here who think so as well. And they all can point to the terrible years we’ve had and they’d be right. It’s the low hanging fruit that’s always a popular target. Negativism is in vogue nowadays.



Observing reality is not negativity.

Thou dost protest…
I wish the Giants had been the worst team last year  
GeofromNJ : 5/15/2024 5:58 pm : link
those three meaningless wins against the Commanders, Packers, and Patriots screwed us in terms of the draft.
They are bad until  
section125 : 5/15/2024 5:59 pm : link
proven otherwise, frankly.
Saying the giants suck,  
Mattman : 5/15/2024 6:09 pm : link
Is like investing during a bubble. It’s hard to be wrong
Yep  
Route 9 : 5/15/2024 6:10 pm : link
They are trash
RE: RE: Glad he thinks the Giants are the worst team  
Mbavaro : 5/15/2024 6:11 pm : link
In comment 16516106 Go Terps said:
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In comment 16516102 BillT said:


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And glad there are folks here who think so as well. And they all can point to the terrible years we’ve had and they’d be right. It’s the low hanging fruit that’s always a popular target. Negativism is in vogue nowadays.



Observing reality is not negativity.


Classic case of having Message Board Tourette’s

You should write a book called “How to literally say the same thing 5,000 different ways”

Get a life
RE: I wish the Giants had been the worst team last year  
Toth029 : 5/15/2024 6:12 pm : link
In comment 16516112 GeofromNJ said:
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those three meaningless wins against the Commanders, Packers, and Patriots screwed us in terms of the draft.


They should have beaten the Rams, Bills and Jets. Pretty easily. Simple mistakes erased that.
RE: I wish the Giants had been the worst team last year  
Optimus-NY : 5/15/2024 6:12 pm : link
In comment 16516112 GeofromNJ said:
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those three meaningless wins against the Commanders, Packers, and Patriots screwed us in terms of the draft.


Agreed. Thanks a lot Tommy Cutlets!
We still have a lot of question marks.  
Crispino : 5/15/2024 6:25 pm : link
Offensive line for the umpteenth year in a row, cornerbacks, tight end, and DJ. That said, I feel like there has been some upgrade to the overall talent level with the FA signings and drafted players. We’re not likely a playoff team, but I don’t think we’ll be in the absolute bottom tier in the league either.
Face it, the team and the  
Dave on the UWS : 5/15/2024 6:29 pm : link
organization are trash and a joke- until they’re not. Winning is the only solution.
I can't decide whether some of y'all are...  
Brown_Hornet : 5/15/2024 6:34 pm : link
...Karens or Debbies.


 
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/15/2024 6:34 pm : link
Listen, I agree with the consensus here that we are bad. It just cracks me up how much Lombardi hates the organization. It really seems personal to him, that’s all.
RE: Face it, the team and the  
Mbavaro : 5/15/2024 6:37 pm : link
In comment 16516135 Dave on the UWS said:
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organization are trash and a joke- until they’re not. Winning is the only solution.


The Skins under Daniel Snyder were trash and a joke

I don’t think we are anywhere near that
RE: RE: RE: Glad he thinks the Giants are the worst team  
gridirony : 5/15/2024 6:47 pm : link
In comment 16516122 Mbavaro said:
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And glad there are folks here who think so as well. And they all can point to the terrible years we’ve had and they’d be right. It’s the low hanging fruit that’s always a popular target. Negativism is in vogue nowadays.



Observing reality is not negativity.



Classic case of having Message Board Tourette’s

You should write a book called “How to literally say the same thing 5,000 different ways”

Get a life

People on a football message board, four months before the season starts, are telling others to get a life?

Wait a tick.

I need to get a life, too.
If the Giants are that bad  
Sean : 5/15/2024 6:50 pm : link
Then the whole regime needs to be wiped out. I generally am a Schoen supporter, but you can't pass on QB, spend the money he spent on the OL, trade for Burns and pay him and then after all that go 4-13.

If it's that bad, I'd be all in on Belichick. I don't care how old he is, this franchise would be desperate for any credibility.

The Giants need to be at minimum in the middle of the pack. Being a bottom 5 team would call for a regime change. The actions of Schoen don't align with a bottom tier franchise. And it would be going backwards from last year.
Also drafting a WR1  
Sean : 5/15/2024 6:51 pm : link
Yet so many just talk about how much the team sucks. Schoen is awful at his job if that's the case and they all can go. They better not be that bad.
I think it's a NY thing. His commentary on the Knicks was odd  
Strahan91 : 5/15/2024 6:53 pm : link
to say the least
Whole league is 0-0  
BlueHurricane : 5/15/2024 6:55 pm : link
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RE: RE: I wish the Giants had been the worst team last year  
gridirony : 5/15/2024 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16516123 Toth029 said:
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those three meaningless wins against the Commanders, Packers, and Patriots screwed us in terms of the draft.



They should have beaten the Rams, Bills and Jets. Pretty easily. Simple mistakes erased that.


No, they should not have beaten those teams.

That they lost to all three, shows exactly the team the Giants were last year, a bunch of undisciplined, poorly coached, mistake prone, lots of low talent, scant high talent, losers.
RE: I think it's a NY thing. His commentary on the Knicks was odd  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/15/2024 6:57 pm : link
In comment 16516162 Strahan91 said:
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to say the least


That's a good point. He was on Simmons' before & was talking about his 76ers so perhaps he hails from PA & grew up an Eagles fan.
RE: If the Giants are that bad  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/15/2024 6:58 pm : link
In comment 16516156 Sean said:
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Then the whole regime needs to be wiped out. I generally am a Schoen supporter, but you can't pass on QB, spend the money he spent on the OL, trade for Burns and pay him and then after all that go 4-13.

If it's that bad, I'd be all in on Belichick. I don't care how old he is, this franchise would be desperate for any credibility.

The Giants need to be at minimum in the middle of the pack. Being a bottom 5 team would call for a regime change. The actions of Schoen don't align with a bottom tier franchise. And it would be going backwards from last year.


I haven't been that impressed with Schoen. I've been more impressed with Dabs.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Glad he thinks the Giants are the worst team  
Mbavaro : 5/15/2024 6:59 pm : link
In comment 16516154 gridirony said:
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And glad there are folks here who think so as well. And they all can point to the terrible years we’ve had and they’d be right. It’s the low hanging fruit that’s always a popular target. Negativism is in vogue nowadays.



Observing reality is not negativity.



Classic case of having Message Board Tourette’s

You should write a book called “How to literally say the same thing 5,000 different ways”

Get a life


People on a football message board, four months before the season starts, are telling others to get a life?

Wait a tick.

I need to get a life, too.



That’s not the point
Repeating day after day
Multiple times on thread after thread after thread
Literally the exact same thing is bizarre to say the least
Was Burns worth half a point  
BigBlueCane : 5/15/2024 7:19 pm : link
or a point in any game?

No?

Then how does he make them definitely better.
No they’re not very good right now,  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 5/15/2024 7:20 pm : link
and haven’t been for awhile. But as a fan I can hang my hat on four Lombardi’s. God willing I’ll patiently wait for a 5th. I’ll root for this team until the day I die. Many fan bases of much better teams than the Giants can’t say that.
RE: RE: RE: I wish the Giants had been the worst team last year  
Toth029 : 5/15/2024 7:21 pm : link
In comment 16516167 gridirony said:
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those three meaningless wins against the Commanders, Packers, and Patriots screwed us in terms of the draft.



They should have beaten the Rams, Bills and Jets. Pretty easily. Simple mistakes erased that.



No, they should not have beaten those teams.

That they lost to all three, shows exactly the team the Giants were last year, a bunch of undisciplined, poorly coached, mistake prone, lots of low talent, scant high talent, losers.


They were a simple pass at the goalline from Tyrod to Barkley and he short armed it. That's the difference. No different than New England missing a FG to lose or NYJ winning because Daboll decided to kick with an injured kicker in the rain.

They were terrible in 2023 but not a bottom 3 team. Doubtful they will be in 2024, too.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/15/2024 7:26 pm : link
99.9% of us are strangers & are posting on a fan message board. We all need to get a life, Haha.

That said-& I'll say this regardless of what I think of a poster/whatever they think of me-if you're a regular BBI poster, you're a diehard diehard Giants fan.
Who cares. Let's face it. We re bad until we re not.  
Blue21 : 5/15/2024 7:27 pm : link
We shall see.
did he quote Bill Walsh ?  
capone : 5/15/2024 7:39 pm : link
he always does thinks it gives him cred
Dumb opinion  
UberAlias : 5/15/2024 7:49 pm : link
Same for those supporting it. Take whatever opinion you want. Just own up to it when you look stupid later. If I’m wrong, I will.
And apparently bad until we’re not comments  
UberAlias : 5/15/2024 7:51 pm : link
Only apply to us. Apparently Carolina or NE don’t have to a see for their shit shows.
Answer  
UberAlias : 5/15/2024 7:52 pm : link
That is
RE: I can't decide whether some of y'all are...  
OntheRoad : 5/15/2024 7:52 pm : link
In comment 16516140 Brown_Hornet said:
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...Karens or Debbies.


Despite all the despondency, there are a number of excellent players on this team. A small number of problem area are what derailed the Giants last year.
RE: He may hate the Giants  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 5/15/2024 8:03 pm : link
In comment 16516089 pjcas18 said:
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no idea. I honestly cannot or choose not to differentiate between all these talking heads, but.....

if you google "who is the worst team in the NFL"

almost every single response has the Giants in the "top" 5 worst teams, most in the top 3 worst teams.

So, hatred or no hatred is it really unreasonable to say the Giants?


This was my first thought. I'm done being offended by outsiders saying the giants suck when they do suck, I'm going to focus that energy on the front office and Mara until something gives
RE: ...  
Route 9 : 5/15/2024 8:24 pm : link
In comment 16516187 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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99.9% of us are strangers & are posting on a fan message board. We all need to get a life, Haha.

That said-& I'll say this regardless of what I think of a poster/whatever they think of me-if you're a regular BBI poster, you're a diehard diehard Giants fan.


But why do you care what these morons say?
Somebody ask the idiot Lombardi  
Eightshamrocks : 5/15/2024 10:17 pm : link
When did a member of the Giants organization piss in his Cheerios. And where was this jerk when the Giants made the playoffs in 2022 AND won a road playoff game? Jerk off.
Eff this...  
nyblue56 : 5/15/2024 11:19 pm : link
I am a fan. Giants to the playoffs this year. Let's go DJ. We win and win big games!
If a guy like Lombardi  
santacruzom : 5/16/2024 1:08 am : link
Were asked what teams he thought would do really well this year and he included the Chiefs and 9ers, would be be accused of loving them? Of course not, the answer would be expected since the teams have routinely been outstanding for the past five years.

We're just the counterpoint.
Not sure why people are mad about this take  
Doubledeuce22 : 5/16/2024 8:15 am : link
The Giants are one of the worst teams on paper going into this season and one of the worst teams in football for the past decade plus. Why would anyone be showing this team love right now or for the past decade?
RE: RE: Face it, the team and the  
Doubledeuce22 : 5/16/2024 8:20 am : link
In comment 16516145 Mbavaro said:
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In comment 16516135 Dave on the UWS said:


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organization are trash and a joke- until they’re not. Winning is the only solution.



The Skins under Daniel Snyder were trash and a joke

I don’t think we are anywhere near that


Yet Washington has more wins over the past decade than the Giants. Makes you wonder. Mara needs to be humbled and realize that he is an awful owner who can’t stay out of his own way. That’s the only way this team turns into a winning franchise again.
It does seem personal  
56goat : 5/16/2024 8:51 am : link
but looking at the Giants record the last 10 - 12 years and the seemingly never ending series of absolute clusterfucks thru the end of the DG & JJ eras into the present, it is fair to say we've been one of the worst-run teams during that time period.

Hopefully the new blood in the FO is changing that.
I’m struggling to see what Lombardi said  
Section331 : 5/16/2024 9:10 am : link
that was so out of line. Maybe we’re not the 3rd worst team in the league, but we’re a hell of a lot closer to 29 than to 3.
It's not outrageous to say NYG, we're bad until we prove otherwise  
Andy in Halifax : 5/16/2024 9:18 am : link
But NE is worse than us. That roster is ass.
RE: ...  
joe48 : 5/16/2024 10:24 am : link
In comment 16516187 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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99.9% of us are strangers & are posting on a fan message board. We all need to get a life, Haha.

That said-& I'll say this regardless of what I think of a poster/whatever they think of me-if you're a regular BBI poster, you're a diehard diehard Giants fan.

We could use a few positive comments here. I won’t mention names but if you are here complaining and whining everyday you need to seriously get a hobby.
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