How do Florida and Boston compare with Carolina? Better,worse, about the same?
Personally, I think Florida is the second best team left after the Rangers, with Dallas right behind them. Their forward group is elite. They are deep, have speed, are the most physical team in the league, highly skilled, and can beat you in a lot of ways. They can beat you to loose pucks, score garbage goals, score off the rush, they're really hard to defend. Defensively, they leave a lot to be desired. Bobrovsky is an excellent goalie but he will have his clunkers too. In my opinion, Florida is a tougher matchup for the Rangers than Carolina was. I highly doubt Boston comes back to win this series, their goaltending is their strong suit, Pastrnak and Marchand are incredible but they don't have much else. That said, Swayman or Ullmark can steal games, which is why they're in position to tie this series on home ice tonight.
I agree with this whole post except FLA is not better than CAR IMO. No current team fore checks or plays with as much pace as CAR and pace is the hardest thing to adjust to if you don't always play that way too.
Also the Hurricanes are about as well balanced a team as there is in the league. But they lacked blue line depth. Pesce being replaced by TDA was likely the difference in the series IMO.
from the puck in this game and the Canuck game last night.. The puck stuck and was sluggish on the Carolina ice and rolled and bounced quite a bit, in the Canuck game it never stopped sliding.. The pucks were not fully frozen in the Ranger game IMO taking away their fast passes and making it more of a board game -Just an observation
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Hearing through sources that Chris Kreider's neighbors and NYR fans covered his front lawn with hats last night for when he returns home.
I'm still a bit in shock by that 3rd period. It was impossible to not start thinking about what a third straight year of a multi-game series lead blown would mean for this core. Then #20 puts the team on his back. Legacy game for Kreider. The Igor save on Svechnikov at 4-3 as well. Unbelievable!
Ryan Mead
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Hearing through sources that Chris Kreider's neighbors and NYR fans covered his front lawn with hats last night for when he returns home.
No seriously, they did and it's amazing.
I live for moments like this.
It's true! My wife works at a pre-school across the street from his house. I'll try to post the photo
I laid in bed replaying that magnificent third period.
How did they do that as they played an awful second period.
Fox really needs the rest imv as he is playing injured.
Going forward Florida would be a tougher opponent as they are so deep.
How do Florida and Boston compare with Carolina? Better,worse, about the same?
Personally, I think Florida is the second best team left after the Rangers, with Dallas right behind them. Their forward group is elite. They are deep, have speed, are the most physical team in the league, highly skilled, and can beat you in a lot of ways. They can beat you to loose pucks, score garbage goals, score off the rush, they're really hard to defend. Defensively, they leave a lot to be desired. Bobrovsky is an excellent goalie but he will have his clunkers too. In my opinion, Florida is a tougher matchup for the Rangers than Carolina was. I highly doubt Boston comes back to win this series, their goaltending is their strong suit, Pastrnak and Marchand are incredible but they don't have much else. That said, Swayman or Ullmark can steal games, which is why they're in position to tie this series on home ice tonight.
Thanks for the breakdown. I was hoping the next series might be a little easier but I guess they will be long series that can go either way from here forward
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man. Classic.
Is Mike in Long Beach still around under a different handle? He was fun to mix it up with. He was young and dumb, and loved to talk shit, but he was a good guy at his core.
Mentioned the flu was running through the locker room. Could explain some of Game 5 sluggish effort, could explain why Chytil hadn't played since Game 3. Get the rest and hope BOS/FLA goes 7 games.
Mentioned the flu was running through the locker room. Could explain some of Game 5 sluggish effort, could explain why Chytil hadn't played since Game 3. Get the rest and hope BOS/FLA goes 7 games.
I don't really care if that flu thing is eye-wash, spin, or cope of whatever sort....it's working on me! All is well!
Mentioned the flu was running through the locker room. Could explain some of Game 5 sluggish effort, could explain why Chytil hadn't played since Game 3. Get the rest and hope BOS/FLA goes 7 games.
Its rare that you hear these stories and you can actually see it on someone’s face. Kreider looked awful yesterday, which makes the hat trick even more impressive.
I've always heard it said the ice at MSG is that way because of the heat from the subway system underneath. Not sure what Carolina's excuse would be!
MSG ice has always been an issue with NBA playing there too.
Subway venting system too was a problem for a long time.. but Rangers benefit from a quick pass open game more than a sluggish one.. throw it in and die on the boards helps Carolina more, Not fully freezing the pucks IMO That was done on purpose
I've always heard it said the ice at MSG is that way because of the heat from the subway system underneath. Not sure what Carolina's excuse would be!
MSG ice has always been an issue with NBA playing there too.
Subway venting system too was a problem for a long time.. but Rangers benefit from a quick pass open game more than a sluggish one.. throw it in and die on the boards helps Carolina more, Not fully freezing the pucks IMO That was done on purpose
Take the tin foil hat off. Pucks bounce when they're not frozen and wouldn't benefit either team disproportionately. It especially not help the faster team (CAR). That makes no sense.
The home team has to provide frozen pucks to the cooler in the penalty box before each period and the league validates this. every two min of play the puck is replaced with a new frozen puck if not sooner.
Southern cities in particular struggle with the temperature in rinks, while tech can keep the ice frozen the outside air gets in and causes fog, condensation, soft ice, etc. it happens up north too, but later in the year. It was 80's yesterday in Raleigh. If there was any effect to the conditions it was likely because of the weather, not because the Hurricanes warmed up the pucks.
LOL. I told my dad and uncle at the beginning of the playoffs that if they get to the SCF, we are going to a game. I was highly tempted to go last night, had it been tonight with no work in the morning, I would have done it. The logistical part of it would have been grueling for me. I'm 2.5 hours from Raleigh.
RE: Carolina was definitely displaying some classic MSG
I've always heard it said the ice at MSG is that way because of the heat from the subway system underneath. Not sure what Carolina's excuse would be!
The Arena is 7 floors above the ground. It wasn't the subway. MSG Ice nowadays is a million times better than in the '70s when MSG was independently owned. Ned Irish would not let them keep the ice frozen during basketball game like every other arena in the world so the ice never set. Some BS anout the bball fans getting cold. Many Rangers and other players got hurt because of it, Dale Rolfe's career was ended because of it. The Cat was always pissed about it.
that stopped in the '80s under Gulf&Western ownesrship, and 2 subsequent major renovations improved the ice making facilities since.
In the 80s, weren't there complaints about the floor for Knicks games
I've always heard it said the ice at MSG is that way because of the heat from the subway system underneath. Not sure what Carolina's excuse would be!
The Arena is 7 floors above the ground. It wasn't the subway. MSG Ice nowadays is a million times better than in the '70s when MSG was independently owned. Ned Irish would not let them keep the ice frozen during basketball game like every other arena in the world so the ice never set. Some BS anout the bball fans getting cold. Many Rangers and other players got hurt because of it, Dale Rolfe's career was ended because of it. The Cat was always pissed about it.
that stopped in the '80s under Gulf&Western ownesrship, and 2 subsequent major renovations improved the ice making facilities since.
Yep the good ol days lol
RE: Back in the day, the circus would also be at MSG during the playoffs
Wednesday, May 22
8 p.m.
Friday, May 24
8 p.m.
Sunday, May 26
3 p.m.
Tuesday, May 28
8 p.m.
*Thursday, May 30
8 p.m.
*Saturday, June 1
8 p.m.
*Monday, June 3
8 p.m.
It's actually kind of remarkable that they've made it this far with Fox being a shell of himself. He's moving around like an 80 year old man out there.
Any of these teams can beat the Rangers. There's never gonna be a cupcake in the ECF or the SCF. But Carolina is far and away my least favorite team to play against. Their style of play is a nightmare. I expect everyone to look far more "like themselves" against the next opponent.
More re: Carolina - I wasn't aware until the series postmortem that I see on twitter from their fans (the twitter algorithm is absolutely FEEDING me Canes accounts), but they are in for a real roster reckoning. Tons of RFAs and UFAs. Good chunk of money "available", but given the number of openings they have it isn't a lot. Lots of different ways they can go with it, but that roster is going to look pretty different regardless.
It's actually kind of remarkable that they've made it this far with Fox being a shell of himself. He's moving around like an 80 year old man out there.
Maybe I'm nuts, but I think he looks way better than he did against Tampa in that ECF run?
It's actually kind of remarkable that they've made it this far with Fox being a shell of himself. He's moving around like an 80 year old man out there.
Maybe I'm nuts, but I think he looks way better than he did against Tampa in that ECF run?
You're nuts he looks terrible. He's playing good defensively, but he doesn't have the same elusiveness/agility offensively. He wasn't ever really fast, but he has some elusiveness.
I don't agree the Aho play was dirty, like Greg thinks, but I do agree that's probably where he was injured.
I agree he isn't peak Fox, I just think he looked worse in the ECF against Tampa, lol.
In the second half of the third period he had a LOT more jump in the offensive zone. Looked a lot more like himself. Maybe he just pulled it, but he got better offensively as the third period went on.
I don't agree the Aho play was dirty, like Greg thinks, but I do agree that's probably where he was injured.
I was talking about the hit by Nick Jensen in the Washington series.
Oh, yeah, right the Aho/Fox play was much earlier this season but I also did not think the Jensen hit was intentional let alone dirty. A penalty because you are responsible for your body, but not malicious IMO.
4 more days to rest injuries before ECF series begins
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How do Florida and Boston compare with Carolina? Better,worse, about the same?
Personally, I think Florida is the second best team left after the Rangers, with Dallas right behind them. Their forward group is elite. They are deep, have speed, are the most physical team in the league, highly skilled, and can beat you in a lot of ways. They can beat you to loose pucks, score garbage goals, score off the rush, they're really hard to defend. Defensively, they leave a lot to be desired. Bobrovsky is an excellent goalie but he will have his clunkers too. In my opinion, Florida is a tougher matchup for the Rangers than Carolina was. I highly doubt Boston comes back to win this series, their goaltending is their strong suit, Pastrnak and Marchand are incredible but they don't have much else. That said, Swayman or Ullmark can steal games, which is why they're in position to tie this series on home ice tonight.
I agree with this whole post except FLA is not better than CAR IMO. No current team fore checks or plays with as much pace as CAR and pace is the hardest thing to adjust to if you don't always play that way too.
Also the Hurricanes are about as well balanced a team as there is in the league. But they lacked blue line depth. Pesce being replaced by TDA was likely the difference in the series IMO.
Exactly and just proves once again most fans are wrong
Some of you guys should be embarassed. "Put in Quick. Trade Kreider Fire Drury Series is over"
Great stuff guys. I know as fans we all tend to overreact but come on, have a little perspective.
Ryan Mead
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Hearing through sources that Chris Kreider's neighbors and NYR fans covered his front lawn with hats last night for when he returns home.
No seriously, they did and it's amazing.
I live for moments like this.
No seriously, they did and it's amazing.
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Ryan Mead
@OhRyanMead
Hearing through sources that Chris Kreider's neighbors and NYR fans covered his front lawn with hats last night for when he returns home.
No seriously, they did and it's amazing.
I live for moments like this.
It's true! My wife works at a pre-school across the street from his house. I'll try to post the photo
What a period. Hockey is awesome.
How did they do that as they played an awful second period.
Fox really needs the rest imv as he is playing injured.
Going forward Florida would be a tougher opponent as they are so deep.
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How do Florida and Boston compare with Carolina? Better,worse, about the same?
Personally, I think Florida is the second best team left after the Rangers, with Dallas right behind them. Their forward group is elite. They are deep, have speed, are the most physical team in the league, highly skilled, and can beat you in a lot of ways. They can beat you to loose pucks, score garbage goals, score off the rush, they're really hard to defend. Defensively, they leave a lot to be desired. Bobrovsky is an excellent goalie but he will have his clunkers too. In my opinion, Florida is a tougher matchup for the Rangers than Carolina was. I highly doubt Boston comes back to win this series, their goaltending is their strong suit, Pastrnak and Marchand are incredible but they don't have much else. That said, Swayman or Ullmark can steal games, which is why they're in position to tie this series on home ice tonight.
Thanks for the breakdown. I was hoping the next series might be a little easier but I guess they will be long series that can go either way from here forward
man. Classic.
Is Mike in Long Beach still around under a different handle? He was fun to mix it up with. He was young and dumb, and loved to talk shit, but he was a good guy at his core.
B in Albania, wherefore art thou?
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Nah, didn't work
I don't really care if that flu thing is eye-wash, spin, or cope of whatever sort....it's working on me! All is well!
We want the cup!
LFGR!!! In Brett we trust. I called it. Goodrow with an empty netter.
By not going tonight
Its rare that you hear these stories and you can actually see it on someone’s face. Kreider looked awful yesterday, which makes the hat trick even more impressive.
BinALB was always entertaining and Arcarsenal was a reasoned and level headed man.
LFGR!!! In Brett we trust. I called it. Goodrow with an empty netter.
I was feeling down after the second but some of these people are nuts.
MSG ice has always been an issue with NBA playing there too.
Subway venting system too was a problem for a long time.. but Rangers benefit from a quick pass open game more than a sluggish one.. throw it in and die on the boards helps Carolina more, Not fully freezing the pucks IMO That was done on purpose
What a period. Hockey is awesome.
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I've always heard it said the ice at MSG is that way because of the heat from the subway system underneath. Not sure what Carolina's excuse would be!
MSG ice has always been an issue with NBA playing there too.
Subway venting system too was a problem for a long time.. but Rangers benefit from a quick pass open game more than a sluggish one.. throw it in and die on the boards helps Carolina more, Not fully freezing the pucks IMO That was done on purpose
Take the tin foil hat off. Pucks bounce when they're not frozen and wouldn't benefit either team disproportionately. It especially not help the faster team (CAR). That makes no sense.
The home team has to provide frozen pucks to the cooler in the penalty box before each period and the league validates this. every two min of play the puck is replaced with a new frozen puck if not sooner.
Southern cities in particular struggle with the temperature in rinks, while tech can keep the ice frozen the outside air gets in and causes fog, condensation, soft ice, etc. it happens up north too, but later in the year. It was 80's yesterday in Raleigh. If there was any effect to the conditions it was likely because of the weather, not because the Hurricanes warmed up the pucks.
Adam Graves said it's way hotter when the arena is packed, too.
Adam Graves said it's way hotter when the arena is packed, too.
New Haven Coliseum was the hottest place I ever played. it was stifling. It was like my grandmothers apartment on Christmas Eve when I was a kid.
Milford Ice Pavilion (where the Drury's home ice at Fairfield Prep was) was the best. So cold in there. Fast ice.
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By not going tonight
LOL. I told my dad and uncle at the beginning of the playoffs that if they get to the SCF, we are going to a game. I was highly tempted to go last night, had it been tonight with no work in the morning, I would have done it. The logistical part of it would have been grueling for me. I'm 2.5 hours from Raleigh.
The Arena is 7 floors above the ground. It wasn't the subway. MSG Ice nowadays is a million times better than in the '70s when MSG was independently owned. Ned Irish would not let them keep the ice frozen during basketball game like every other arena in the world so the ice never set. Some BS anout the bball fans getting cold. Many Rangers and other players got hurt because of it, Dale Rolfe's career was ended because of it. The Cat was always pissed about it.
that stopped in the '80s under Gulf&Western ownesrship, and 2 subsequent major renovations improved the ice making facilities since.
I'm just relieved I wasn't mentioned in that list lol
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I've always heard it said the ice at MSG is that way because of the heat from the subway system underneath. Not sure what Carolina's excuse would be!
The Arena is 7 floors above the ground. It wasn't the subway. MSG Ice nowadays is a million times better than in the '70s when MSG was independently owned. Ned Irish would not let them keep the ice frozen during basketball game like every other arena in the world so the ice never set. Some BS anout the bball fans getting cold. Many Rangers and other players got hurt because of it, Dale Rolfe's career was ended because of it. The Cat was always pissed about it.
that stopped in the '80s under Gulf&Western ownesrship, and 2 subsequent major renovations improved the ice making facilities since.
Yep the good ol days lol
Ohh yes Ringling bros every year - the elephants.. lol
8 p.m.
Friday, May 24
8 p.m.
Sunday, May 26
3 p.m.
Tuesday, May 28
8 p.m.
*Thursday, May 30
8 p.m.
*Saturday, June 1
8 p.m.
*Monday, June 3
8 p.m.
More re: Carolina - I wasn't aware until the series postmortem that I see on twitter from their fans (the twitter algorithm is absolutely FEEDING me Canes accounts), but they are in for a real roster reckoning. Tons of RFAs and UFAs. Good chunk of money "available", but given the number of openings they have it isn't a lot. Lots of different ways they can go with it, but that roster is going to look pretty different regardless.
Maybe I'm nuts, but I think he looks way better than he did against Tampa in that ECF run?
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It's actually kind of remarkable that they've made it this far with Fox being a shell of himself. He's moving around like an 80 year old man out there.
Maybe I'm nuts, but I think he looks way better than he did against Tampa in that ECF run?
You're nuts he looks terrible. He's playing good defensively, but he doesn't have the same elusiveness/agility offensively. He wasn't ever really fast, but he has some elusiveness.
I don't agree the Aho play was dirty, like Greg thinks, but I do agree that's probably where he was injured.
I was talking about the hit by Nick Jensen in the Washington series.
In the second half of the third period he had a LOT more jump in the offensive zone. Looked a lot more like himself. Maybe he just pulled it, but he got better offensively as the third period went on.
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I don't agree the Aho play was dirty, like Greg thinks, but I do agree that's probably where he was injured.
I was talking about the hit by Nick Jensen in the Washington series.
Oh, yeah, right the Aho/Fox play was much earlier this season but I also did not think the Jensen hit was intentional let alone dirty. A penalty because you are responsible for your body, but not malicious IMO.