This was mentioned briefly when discussing the Goff contract on his podcast today. He said the teams who liked Hooker in the draft prep will likely be looking at him closely this summer. He mentioned the Giants and Raiders. With the Goff contract done, Hooker doesn't have a future in Detroit.
Could the Lions trade him? We'll see. But, we know how much Schoen leans on predraft visits and Hooker was a 30 visit in 2023. If they did make a trade, you can cut DeVito or put him on the practice squad and carry Jones, Lock & Hooker.
I don't think it's impossible. This was on today's GM Shuffle pod. I didn't link it because it was such a short comment, but caught my attention.
I don't get the fascination with Hooker.
He is 26 and has not played a down in the NFL.
He was a good but not great system college QB at Tennessee. The program is run-centric with the specific objectives of attacking the deep sidelines. When I watched Hooker I saw a good athlete with a great arm who was very raw.
What convinced me that Hooker was overrated was when Hooker went down with an injury Joe Milton stepped in and was the superior QB. Milton was the MVP in the Capital One Orange Bowl. The Giants would have been better off drafting Milton rather than trading for Hooker.
Milton is a far better prospect.
bingo
If he gets cut? Seriously?
Carry 3 QBs on game day and put DeVito on the practice squad or outright cut him. Let the best man win the job.
Goff's contract is going to make it harder to pay free agents from here on out. If they were able to net a solid pick for Hooker then that is one more player on the roster for the life of Goff's contract cheap at another position.
If they wanted to get ballsy they could include Lock in the trade. The Lions would get a pick and their backup for the year. Giants get a prospect to really compete with Jones.
As for the people wondering why there is interest in Hooker, I think it is as simple as his 58:5 TD:INT ratio and near 70% completion percentage his two seasons in the SEC.
The Lions have a cheap backup QB in his second year who has decent potential and has learned their system.
Why would they do that?
Why would the Giants, who passed on JJ McCarthy et al, trade for another backup QB?
The Lions have a cheap backup QB in his second year who has decent potential and has learned their system.
Why would they do that?
Why would the Giants, who passed on JJ McCarthy et al, trade for another backup QB?
Goff is 29.
I’ve been on the record as being skeptical that the Lions would trade him, but with locking Goff up, they may decide they want a backup with more game experience. I would think they’d want to highlight him this preseason to see if they can drive his value up.
I’ve been on the record as being skeptical that the Lions would trade him, but with locking Goff up, they may decide they want a backup with more game experience. I would think they’d want to highlight him this preseason to see if they can drive his value up.
Another thing to keep in mind is the Giants have joint practices with the Lions this year. No shot he gets cut, they can get a mid round pick for him.
Lions gets a third and then sign Tannehill cheap. I could see it.
The Lions have a cheap backup QB in his second year who has decent potential and has learned their system.
Why would they do that?
Why would the Giants, who passed on JJ McCarthy et al, trade for another backup QB?
Hooker would have gone in the first if he didn't tear his ACL near the end of November, he was not a backup tier prospect. Their only loss until that game was to #1 Georgia and they beat #3 Alabama. He had 68 TDs in the last two seasons. His 2023 was going to be a redshirt season which is why he fell to the third, if he's healthy he should be competing for a starting role. As others have pointed out, the Giants will get a good look during joint practices to see if he is.
No one has seen this dude throw a football in an NFL game ever.
He's a 3rd round draft pick coming off major knee surgery.
He'll turn 27 during the season.
Someone make it make sense.
No one has seen this dude throw a football in an NFL game ever.
He's a 3rd round draft pick coming off major knee surgery.
He'll turn 27 during the season.
Someone make it make sense.
His last name isn't Jones
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the infatuation with Hendon Hooker around here.
No one has seen this dude throw a football in an NFL game ever.
He's a 3rd round draft pick coming off major knee surgery.
He'll turn 27 during the season.
Someone make it make sense.
His last name isn't Jones
Yeah - I get that.
Speaking of which, who would you rather have, Mac Jones or Daniel Jones?
It's a bird in hand situation for another year or two for them. That is why they picked him - good insurance, talent, and see where things stand come Year 3-4 on the rookie deal.
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he's worth developing over Devito. I wonder if the Cardinals and Chargers would pass on him.
If he gets cut? Seriously?
Why would we trade for him?
No one has seen this dude throw a football in an NFL game ever.
He's a 3rd round draft pick coming off major knee surgery.
He'll turn 27 during the season.
Someone make it make sense.
There is a group here that will click and share any article that even hints about replacing Jones. People that want to have their beliefs reinforced rather than find holes are the easiest people on this earth to manipulate. The political nut are jobs are no different. Same dudes.
You can tell someone something negative about anyone they hate and they will believe without checking if it is true.
Giants are looking to replace Jones with a 27 year old that never took a NFL snap after they passed on 3 QB that were taken in round 1. They could have signed Russell Wilson. Reporters will keep trolling tools for clicks. It’s easy.
No one has seen this dude throw a football in an NFL game ever.
He's a 3rd round draft pick coming off major knee surgery.
He'll turn 27 during the season.
Someone make it make sense.
I'll take a stab at it.
I don't know anything about evaluating quarterbacks, but I do know that Brian Daboll knows a lot about evaluating quarterbacks. The giant spent a lot of time with hendon hooker in last year's draft process. If Daboll regrets passing on him, and the lions are looking to recoup some draft capital now that they're more sold on Jared Goff, I like hooker as an option.
That's all it is for me.
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Hooker if the offers are strong, but why in the world would they cut him? He’s making peanuts, so the only reason I can think of is that they don’t think he’s that good.
I’ve been on the record as being skeptical that the Lions would trade him, but with locking Goff up, they may decide they want a backup with more game experience. I would think they’d want to highlight him this preseason to see if they can drive his value up.
Another thing to keep in mind is the Giants have joint practices with the Lions this year. No shot he gets cut, they can get a mid round pick for him.
Lions gets a third and then sign Tannehill cheap. I could see it.
That's a great point, they'll get an up close and personal look at him.
I’m 100% down for a flier, but to get Hooker you wouldn’t pay flier pricing. We’d have to be comfortable giving up a 2nd, maybe more.
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the infatuation with Hendon Hooker around here.
No one has seen this dude throw a football in an NFL game ever.
He's a 3rd round draft pick coming off major knee surgery.
He'll turn 27 during the season.
Someone make it make sense.
Um um um. Raises hand really high. Pick me.
There is a group here that will click and share any article that even hints about replacing Jones. People that want to have their beliefs reinforced rather than find holes are the easiest people on this earth to manipulate. The political nut are jobs are no different. Same dudes.
You can tell someone something negative about anyone they hate and they will believe without checking if it is true.
Giants are looking to replace Jones with a 27 year old that never took a NFL snap after they passed on 3 QB that were taken in round 1. They could have signed Russell Wilson. Reporters will keep trolling tools for clicks. It’s easy.
Or...maybe the Giants would be interested because they scouted Hooker pretty intensely pre-draft (he was one of their 30 visits), and if he's cheap enough, maybe he's worth taking a flyer on? I tend to think that many here overstate their interest in Hooker, but that doesn't mean there isn't any.
I know this may be hard for some in the DJFC to believe, but the Giants have been actively looking for an escape hatch from the ridiculous contract they signed with Jones. Don't balme fans for looking at potential solutions.
The Lions have a cheap backup QB in his second year who has decent potential and has learned their system.
Why would they do that?
Why would the Giants, who passed on JJ McCarthy et al, trade for another backup QB?
Here is my rationale - they drafted Hooker at a time when they saw Goff more as a bridge QB, and took a shot at Hooker being the other side of the Goff bridge.
As far as keeping him as a backup, he's never played an NFL down. With Goff signed long term, there is no need to develop Hooker as a potential starter, and they may prefer a backup with NFL game experience in case Goff goes down for an extended period.
I don't know what the cost would be, but he's a 27 yr old coming off a serious knee injury who hasn't played an NFL down, even in preseason. And the value of a backup QB changes BECAUSE the Lions are SB contenders. What happens if Goff goes down for 4-6 weeks, do they want a guy who has yet to play a down, or someone who has proven he can win a game?
Hooker's value to DET changes with the Goff signing. A long-term contract negates the need for a developmental QB, and exacerbates the need for a game-ready backup.
I'm not saying it will happen, or even if it does, if Schoen would be interested, but I wouldn't rule it out either.
If the Lions don’t want him that should be telling. If they do want him than his price will be high. What’s left is our opinion on what we think the Lions would want and currently Hooker and Sudfeld are the backups - one has upside and the other is barely someone you’d want on your roster. So if the Lions want a good experienced backup, they need to go sign one (I doubt they will).
Go watch the end of the Alabama game from his senior season. He made multiple reads and clutch throws. He put up 50& against Saban's D and it was not the first year of Heupal's offense.
Detroit will be well aware of what they could have in Hooker. They are under no pressure to offload him so he will command more that the third rounder that they have invested. He may very well be worth a second plus.