By a shuttle bus around 5am. Scottie attempted to navigate around the traffic by driving through the media. Was told to stop and supposedly drove another 10-20 yards, officer attached himself to side of vehicle, Scottie stopped and officer reached through window to grab Scottie’s arm. They pulled him from vehicle, placed him up against it and arrested him.
Let’s be clear that Scheffler had nothing to do with car accident
at the entrance to Valhalla. He was ordered to stop by a cop in yellow rain gear, continued to roll up slowly, cop got upset and yanked him out of the car, detained him, and took him to jail. Some ESPN staff were present and said he apologized and said he didn't realize it was an officer due to the rain gear but that the whole scene was "heated".
Sounds like it can be explained by confusion with perhaps some entitlement, exacerbated by an angry cop.
RE: Apparently he tried to pass the scene of a fatal accident
at the entrance to Valhalla. He was ordered to stop by a cop in yellow rain gear, continued to roll up slowly, cop got upset and yanked him out of the car, detained him, and took him to jail. Some ESPN staff were present and said he apologized and said he didn't realize it was an officer due to the rain gear but that the whole scene was "heated".
Sounds like it can be explained by confusion with perhaps some entitlement, exacerbated by an angry cop.
that the police officer was angry and escalated the situation. Seems to me that a well trained officer should have been trying to deescalate the situation.
Not a great excuse, but it seems that Scheffler thought he was dealing with security, a rent a cop, not the real police.
Anyone could have mistaken whether the person was a cop. I think the people who are not "entitled" still have interactions with the police with many of those interactions being negative.
Sounds like they were securing the scene and he ignored them.
According to ESPN, the LEOs were letting players, media and staff bypass the traffic backup to get into the course. Scheffler was in a courtesy care with tournament markings. Apparently there were LEOs and tournament security people there. ESPN's reporter heard Scheffler telling the police he didn't know it was a cop.
Sounds like a whole lot of misunderstanding that should have been handled with simple logic, by both sides.
be interesting to see how the legal system proceeds
Second-degree assault of a police officer, which is a felony
Third-degree criminal mischief
Reckless driving
Disregarding traffic signals from an officer directing traffic
RE: be interesting to see how the legal system proceeds
Second-degree assault of a police officer, which is a felony
Third-degree criminal mischief
Reckless driving
Disregarding traffic signals from an officer directing traffic
It's claimed that the officers had no idea who Scheffler was when they first detained him. ESPN reporter Jeff Darlington claimed: 'One police officer came up to me with his pad and said - pen in hand - "Can you tell me the name of the person we've just arrested?"'
As the golfer was led away, Darlington - who filmed the incident - attempted to get the attention of officers. He was warned: 'Back up or you're going to jail also!
... I had a family member... (who was in the depths of drug addiction, and most certainly had committed a crime)... try to flee from police in their car.
This family member simply went forward and away from police attempting to run her down... to be clear, she did not in any way shape or form drive her vehicle at police... but one officer decided to try to launch himself on top of her windshield like a Hollywood movie. This officer felt on to the pavement.
My relation drove for about 50 yards but then (finally) better judgement took over and she stopped, after which she was promptly arrested. Among other charges, she was charged with "aggravated assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer"
Fortunately for my family member, there was video of the incident... (it was in a retail space parking lot)... and the locality had to drop the agg assault charge. Otherwise, she would have been facing serious time in prison.
In that situation, if someone is clearly indicating for you to stop as you drive on a median, the person hangs on your car to prevent you from driving and you continue on and then when you do stop, you wait 30 seconds according to reports from opening the window and the reason is “I didn’t know he was a cop”?
Wouldn’t most people pause for a second in that situation and briefly interact with the person to find out why they’re attempting to stop you from proceeding?
Or do you just assume, fuck it, he’s probably not a cop, I’ll do what I want. Kind of the definition of entitlement
If the video circulating is the scene, it's pretty difficult to believe he didn't know the guy in the bright yellow reflective emergency jacket, surrounded by all of the other guys in bright yellow reflective emergency jackets, standing by the countless police cars -- was a cop.
If the video circulating is the scene, it's pretty difficult to believe he didn't know the guy in the bright yellow reflective emergency jacket, surrounded by all of the other guys in bright yellow reflective emergency jackets, standing by the countless police cars -- was a cop.
I think b/c he was 50 yards from the entrance, its a matter of PGA personnel directing players in vs police. The lanes were separated for traffic and golf club entrance
Regardless of what transpired, he seems entitled AF.
Have you seen the video? There was no entitlement at all. He got out of the car, cooperated and was put in the police car. No yelling "do you know who I am"
If the video circulating is the scene, it's pretty difficult to believe he didn't know the guy in the bright yellow reflective emergency jacket, surrounded by all of the other guys in bright yellow reflective emergency jackets, standing by the countless police cars -- was a cop.
It’s being reported that officers were letting golfers go and that what Sheffler was told. However - the cop who arrested him wasn’t part of the unit. And didn’t know anything about the golfers.
he wanted street cred. he's got the whole Ned Flanders "god boy" thing down and wanted a little more Woods/Mickelson bad-ass to his image so he could appeal to a broader audience. especially relevant seeing Harrison Butker in the news, lol.
Will remind Kentucky of how much $ this tournament brings to their economy while asking, you do want us to return in say five years so kindly drop all charges against the #1 player in the world. Easy Peasy.
Guy went to jail and got booked over a traffic flow miscommunication right outside the course. Even if there was a hothead cop, there should be some adult supervision somewhere.
"Hey, there is a lot of confusion out here and we just needed you to stop"
"Oh sorry about that, I was told I could continue driving like the rest of the players"
"OK, you're clear to proceed. Please be more mindful of police direction in the future."
It doesn't matter what someone else told you over the phone, if a police officer instructs you to stop just do it. You don't have all of the information on what's changed in a chaotic environment. The police are dealing with a situation where someone has just been killed. I think they're best equipped to determine where you and shouldn't drive in that moment.
I don't think it's a punishable crime, but it's certainly not the cop's fault.
... I had a family member... (who was in the depths of drug addiction, and most certainly had committed a crime)... try to flee from police in their car.
This family member simply went forward and away from police attempting to run her down... to be clear, she did not in any way shape or form drive her vehicle at police... but one officer decided to try to launch himself on top of her windshield like a Hollywood movie. This officer felt on to the pavement.
My relation drove for about 50 yards but then (finally) better judgement took over and she stopped, after which she was promptly arrested. Among other charges, she was charged with "aggravated assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer"
Fortunately for my family member, there was video of the incident... (it was in a retail space parking lot)... and the locality had to drop the agg assault charge. Otherwise, she would have been facing serious time in prison.
I wish I could say this was an outlier, but alas, I know better.
RE: Apparently he tried to pass the scene of a fatal accident
at the entrance to Valhalla. He was ordered to stop by a cop in yellow rain gear, continued to roll up slowly, cop got upset and yanked him out of the car, detained him, and took him to jail. Some ESPN staff were present and said he apologized and said he didn't realize it was an officer due to the rain gear but that the whole scene was "heated".
Sounds like it can be explained by confusion with perhaps some entitlement, exacerbated by an angry cop.
According to an ESPN article, the accident was a block away from where Scottie was stopped. Traffic patterns were redirected and I think this is where the confusion came in. A big misunderstanding.
Statement from Scottie Scheffler’s Louisville attorney, Steve Romines:
“In the early hours of the morning in advance of his tee time Scottie was going to the course to begin his pre round preparation. Due to the combination of event traffic and a traffic fatality in the area it was a very chaotic situation He was proceeding as directed by another traffic officer and driving a marked player’s vehicle with credentials visible. In the confusion,Scottie is alleged to have disregarded a different officer’s traffic signals resulting in these charges. Multiple eyewitnesses have confirmed that he did not do anything wrong but was simply proceeding as directed. He stopped immediately upon being directed to and never at any point assaulted any officer with his vehicle. We will litigate this matter as needed and he will be completely exonerated. “
Why the heck would the cop grab onto a moving car??
That can't possibly be something they're instructed to do at the academy. Especially near a crowd of people. Just seems like a good way to get run over or cause a crash.
Anyone could have mistaken whether the person was a cop. I think the people who are not "entitled" still have interactions with the police with many of those interactions being negative.
There were about 20 cops there at a fatal accident, multiple cruisers with lights flashing, and all of the cops had orange vests with POLICE written on them. Scottie fucked up, but I think the cop overreacted too. It will resolve without too much trouble. He’ll likely pay a fine.
Anyone could have mistaken whether the person was a cop. I think the people who are not "entitled" still have interactions with the police with many of those interactions being negative.
There were about 20 cops there at a fatal accident, multiple cruisers with lights flashing, and all of the cops had orange vests with POLICE written on them. Scottie fucked up, but I think the cop overreacted too. It will resolve without too much trouble. He’ll likely pay a fine.
you realize he wasnt the only golfer to drive around the median and was told to go?
That can't possibly be something they're instructed to do at the academy. Especially near a crowd of people. Just seems like a good way to get run over or cause a crash.
Sounds like it can be explained by confusion with perhaps some entitlement, exacerbated by an angry cop.
Sounds like it can be explained by confusion with perhaps some entitlement, exacerbated by an angry cop.
Very well said. Combine all that and here we are.
Not a great excuse, but it seems that Scheffler thought he was dealing with security, a rent a cop, not the real police.
It was pushed back.
According to ESPN, the LEOs were letting players, media and staff bypass the traffic backup to get into the course. Scheffler was in a courtesy care with tournament markings. Apparently there were LEOs and tournament security people there. ESPN's reporter heard Scheffler telling the police he didn't know it was a cop.
Sounds like a whole lot of misunderstanding that should have been handled with simple logic, by both sides.
Second-degree assault of a police officer, which is a felony
Third-degree criminal mischief
Reckless driving
Disregarding traffic signals from an officer directing traffic
Second-degree assault of a police officer, which is a felony
Third-degree criminal mischief
Reckless driving
Disregarding traffic signals from an officer directing traffic
So absurd.
As the golfer was led away, Darlington - who filmed the incident - attempted to get the attention of officers. He was warned: 'Back up or you're going to jail also!
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This family member simply went forward and away from police attempting to run her down... to be clear, she did not in any way shape or form drive her vehicle at police... but one officer decided to try to launch himself on top of her windshield like a Hollywood movie. This officer felt on to the pavement.
My relation drove for about 50 yards but then (finally) better judgement took over and she stopped, after which she was promptly arrested. Among other charges, she was charged with "aggravated assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer"
Fortunately for my family member, there was video of the incident... (it was in a retail space parking lot)... and the locality had to drop the agg assault charge. Otherwise, she would have been facing serious time in prison.
Wouldn’t most people pause for a second in that situation and briefly interact with the person to find out why they’re attempting to stop you from proceeding?
Or do you just assume, fuck it, he’s probably not a cop, I’ll do what I want. Kind of the definition of entitlement
I think b/c he was 50 yards from the entrance, its a matter of PGA personnel directing players in vs police. The lanes were separated for traffic and golf club entrance
Have you seen the video? There was no entitlement at all. He got out of the car, cooperated and was put in the police car. No yelling "do you know who I am"
He just drove thinking he was fine...
LOL
(whatever happened as facts are still developing and I don't know), I've already drawn a conclusion
It’s being reported that officers were letting golfers go and that what Sheffler was told. However - the cop who arrested him wasn’t part of the unit. And didn’t know anything about the golfers.
Cop looks like a total dick here.
Except every player and media personnel has stated he’s the nicest most even keel person on tour.
LMFAO.
LMFAO.
Lmao. This cracked me up too.
"Hey, there is a lot of confusion out here and we just needed you to stop"
"Oh sorry about that, I was told I could continue driving like the rest of the players"
"OK, you're clear to proceed. Please be more mindful of police direction in the future."
I don't think it's a punishable crime, but it's certainly not the cop's fault.
charges get dropped or reduced by the district attorneys' all the time. I'd wager if he's convicted of anything it won't be these charges.
This family member simply went forward and away from police attempting to run her down... to be clear, she did not in any way shape or form drive her vehicle at police... but one officer decided to try to launch himself on top of her windshield like a Hollywood movie. This officer felt on to the pavement.
My relation drove for about 50 yards but then (finally) better judgement took over and she stopped, after which she was promptly arrested. Among other charges, she was charged with "aggravated assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer"
Fortunately for my family member, there was video of the incident... (it was in a retail space parking lot)... and the locality had to drop the agg assault charge. Otherwise, she would have been facing serious time in prison.
I wish I could say this was an outlier, but alas, I know better.
Sounds like it can be explained by confusion with perhaps some entitlement, exacerbated by an angry cop.
According to an ESPN article, the accident was a block away from where Scottie was stopped. Traffic patterns were redirected and I think this is where the confusion came in. A big misunderstanding.
hopefully cooler heads prevail. The cop was dealing with the scene of a death. I don't blame him for being amped up.
“In the early hours of the morning in advance of his tee time Scottie was going to the course to begin his pre round preparation. Due to the combination of event traffic and a traffic fatality in the area it was a very chaotic situation He was proceeding as directed by another traffic officer and driving a marked player’s vehicle with credentials visible. In the confusion,Scottie is alleged to have disregarded a different officer’s traffic signals resulting in these charges. Multiple eyewitnesses have confirmed that he did not do anything wrong but was simply proceeding as directed. He stopped immediately upon being directed to and never at any point assaulted any officer with his vehicle. We will litigate this matter as needed and he will be completely exonerated. “
There were about 20 cops there at a fatal accident, multiple cruisers with lights flashing, and all of the cops had orange vests with POLICE written on them. Scottie fucked up, but I think the cop overreacted too. It will resolve without too much trouble. He’ll likely pay a fine.
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Anyone could have mistaken whether the person was a cop. I think the people who are not "entitled" still have interactions with the police with many of those interactions being negative.
There were about 20 cops there at a fatal accident, multiple cruisers with lights flashing, and all of the cops had orange vests with POLICE written on them. Scottie fucked up, but I think the cop overreacted too. It will resolve without too much trouble. He’ll likely pay a fine.
you realize he wasnt the only golfer to drive around the median and was told to go?
You do this to escalate the situation.
They created an assault charge.