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Elijah Chattman

Hilary : 5/17/2024 3:42 pm
Every UDFA is a long shot understood. Player benches 500 pounds,squats 600 pounds and lifts the 225 42x. That is impressive.I don't remember seeing anyone else at the combines with 42 bench prep reps.He will be able to get under the pads of the taller o lineman and push with force. May have a chance to be a player despite being under 6 feet.
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one t sorry  
Hilary : 5/17/2024 3:43 pm : link
Chatman
I think power means more than length and bulk in the trenches.  
Ira : 5/17/2024 3:49 pm : link
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At least send him in to beat up the oppostion a little  
GiantBlue : 5/17/2024 3:51 pm : link
I feel like the Eagles and Cowboys do this in the trenches...they just play at a different level of mean and strength. Let's counter with folks like Chatman!
I think he has pretty good quickness too.  
Giant John : 5/17/2024 4:41 pm : link
Looking forward to watching him play.
I rooting for him.  
solarmike : 5/17/2024 4:49 pm : link
Thanks for the link.
Geno Atkins had a solid career as a DT  
blueblood : 5/17/2024 5:29 pm : link
and he was 6'1". Aaron Donald was 6'ft 1". Jon Randle 6'1". Casey Hampton 6'1"...

Not saying this guy is ANY of these players..

but there have been VERY effective " shorter " players at the DT position in the NFL
RE: Geno Atkins had a solid career as a DT  
Mike in NY : 5/17/2024 6:05 pm : link
In comment 16518457 blueblood said:
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and he was 6'1". Aaron Donald was 6'ft 1". Jon Randle 6'1". Casey Hampton 6'1"...

Not saying this guy is ANY of these players..

but there have been VERY effective " shorter " players at the DT position in the NFL


Poona Ford and Mike Patterson too
Let’s just congratulate…  
knowledgetimmons : 5/17/2024 6:13 pm : link
A rookie try out for making the team. He’s overcome plenty thus far on real effort vs talent or measurables. I think we’ll hear his name in the future. Great story already.

With that said…he’s a future HOF but unfortunately we don’t have….nevermind.
RE: Geno Atkins had a solid career as a DT  
k2tampa : 5/17/2024 7:39 pm : link
In comment 16518457 blueblood said:
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and he was 6'1". Aaron Donald was 6'ft 1". Jon Randle 6'1". Casey Hampton 6'1"...

Not saying this guy is ANY of these players..

but there have been VERY effective " shorter " players at the DT position in the NFL


He's more than an inch shorter than those guys. And for comparison he had 4.5 sacks as a senior (and 13 sacks in 5 years). And average fewer than 2.5 tackles a game as a senior.

Randle as a senior had 14 sacks (20 as a junior), and averaged 5.3 tackles a game.

There is a reason he wasn't one of the 500 guys drafted or signed as UDFA. Let's hope he works out, but let's be realistic.
Poona Ford  
uconngiant : 5/17/2024 11:38 pm : link
5'11 DT 310 pounds

He played 6 years in the NFL and was undrafted.

RE: RE: Geno Atkins had a solid career as a DT  
blueblood : 5/18/2024 7:03 am : link
In comment 16518533 k2tampa said:
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In comment 16518457 blueblood said:


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and he was 6'1". Aaron Donald was 6'ft 1". Jon Randle 6'1". Casey Hampton 6'1"...

Not saying this guy is ANY of these players..

but there have been VERY effective " shorter " players at the DT position in the NFL



He's more than an inch shorter than those guys. And for comparison he had 4.5 sacks as a senior (and 13 sacks in 5 years). And average fewer than 2.5 tackles a game as a senior.

Randle as a senior had 14 sacks (20 as a junior), and averaged 5.3 tackles a game.

There is a reason he wasn't one of the 500 guys drafted or signed as UDFA. Let's hope he works out, but let's be realistic.


As I said... I AM NOT SAYING HE IS ANY OF THESE PLAYERS...

you can be short and be effective at the DT position. Its one of those things where being able to get low can be a huge advantage. You always hear coaches talk about keeping your pad level down... well if your already low.... and apparently he is very strong.. hell he might even be the next Josh Seawright !!!
The Giants need a penetrating DT next to Burns, Thibs and Dex  
George from PA : 5/18/2024 7:37 am : link
So anyone with those traits.....has an opportunity.

The current list of players on the Giants with those traits is very few.

So, yes....he has an opportunity...this year.

If the rumors are true, practicing with pads against the Lions, with a great OL....should be a good test.

I expect the Giants will target a penetrating DT next year.
This young man has me….  
5BowlsSoon : 5/18/2024 8:43 am : link
Very interested to see how he performs. His film looks scary.
He’s a very interesting UDFA,  
Section331 : 5/18/2024 10:16 am : link
but I think we tend to overvalue RAS scores. What has he done on the field? The answer is, not a whole lot. If he couldn’t be uber-productive at SMU, why do we think he can contribute in the NFL?

Maybe NFL coaching unlocks his potential, stranger things have happened, but the greater likelihood is that he is a physical marvel who hasn’t figured out how to translate those traits to production on the field.
John Mendenhal was short  
Reale01 : 5/20/2024 9:42 am : link
One of my favorite Giants! However, he was productive in college.
John Mendenhall &  
Bubba : 5/20/2024 12:37 pm : link
Jim Burt come to mind. Very different eras however. Burt used to wear work boots during his first training camp to enhance his height or lack thereof.
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