trade a boatload of picks for Mikal Bridges, and hire Jay Wright as the coach. Go full Nova Knicks and get a coach that can regulate the minutes. Something drastic has to change in order to maximize Jalen Brunson's prime.
trade a boatload of picks for Mikal Bridges, and hire Jay Wright as the coach. Go full Nova Knicks and get a coach that can regulate the minutes. Something drastic has to change in order to maximize Jalen Brunson's prime.
Yes it’s obvious that if Thibs just rested one or two players for an extra 2-3 min here and there we’d be fine now. Shit we’d have one this one in 5.
trade a boatload of picks for Mikal Bridges, and hire Jay Wright as the coach. Go full Nova Knicks and get a coach that can regulate the minutes. Something drastic has to change in order to maximize Jalen Brunson's prime.
Are you stupid?
The idiots will come out in force. Best to ignore. Great fucking season, injuries got us in the end
trade a boatload of picks for Mikal Bridges, and hire Jay Wright as the coach. Go full Nova Knicks and get a coach that can regulate the minutes. Something drastic has to change in order to maximize Jalen Brunson's prime.
With health this team should be competing for a championship next season. We are right there. Bummer of a way to end this season due to attrition, but a lot to be proud of
RE: Injuries of course happen, but this is ridiculous
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
Thibs will keep his job and has done do many things really well. The team is just toast. But he will have to manage loads next year a little better than he usually does. If Burks is one of our best players in this series it's fair to ask why he couldn't have a few minutes against the sixers. It's also fair to question the most injuries in the playoffs by far on the team that plays people the most by far. It can't be proven but it's fair to ask.
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
Would've won the series, I think comfortably, if he hadn't gotten hurt. The way these guys played for so much of the year, it's a real shame to go out like this. But at its best, this team was so much fun to watch. Looking forward to watching these guys next year.
running his players into the ground is going to have a similar result as all his other stops. I love the coaching job he's done this year but I don't think he can win a title. Btw, I am a life long Knicks fan. Maybe I'm just being emotional but I'm not an idiot.
RE: RE: RE: Injuries of course happen, but this is ridiculous
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
RE: RE: Injuries of course happen, but this is ridiculous
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
Would've won the series, I think comfortably, if he hadn't gotten hurt. The way these guys played for so much of the year, it's a real shame to go out like this. But at its best, this team was so much fun to watch. Looking forward to watching these guys next year.
IDK about that. Even a healthy OG had his struggles against Siakam.
RE: RE: RE: Injuries of course happen, but this is ridiculous
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
Managing playing time is not going to help freak injuries like Randle, Bogie, or Brunson. If a guy falls on the ground at these speeds, sometimes they're gonna get hurt. That's true if they play 4 minutes or 40.
trade a boatload of picks for Mikal Bridges, and hire Jay Wright as the coach. Go full Nova Knicks and get a coach that can regulate the minutes. Something drastic has to change in order to maximize Jalen Brunson's prime.
2024 sports fan on full display
Born in 1984 and I'm a lifelong Knicks fan. Just because I don't think we can win with Thibodeau doesn't mean I am a "2024 sports fan".
You could play the second best player in the court
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
at about 10 mil a year. It was basically leaked a few days ago.
As for the minutes thing, it's not all his fault. What do you want him to do when you lose so many starters/rotation players? Also they traded two rotation guys for 1 guy midseason. He deservers some criticism for keeping starters in at end of games when it's a blowout (that's what got randle injured) but I don't blame him for the minutes. He really had no choice this season. If he kept Jalen/Hart/Dante at 35 mpg this postseason, they likely don't beat the sixers.
The key is getting the injured guys back next season and adding to the depth.
way Thibs should be fired for this loss. The Knicks are beat up and the Pacers were on fire the whole day. Good season.
I agree he doesn't deserve to be fired, especially after this season. Just stating my opinion that Thibodeau won't win a title with the Knicks unless he has a Tom Coughlin change in his approach. This team will eventually need to make a coaching change if they want to win.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Injuries of course happen, but this is ridiculous
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Literally none of the injuries were because of minutes wtf are you talking baout?
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Injuries of course happen, but this is ridiculous
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
But we all saw how Bogdanovic got hurt. And Randle. Mitch’s initial injury occurred with him playing regular starter minutes early in the season.
I’m not a Thins guy, but people’s injuries are the least of my concerns with him.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Injuries of course happen, but this is ridiculous
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
I agree with Anakim. Thibs doesn't deserve to be fired but this is his modus operandi. We will eventually need to get a new coach for this team to win a title.
Are you stupid?
Yes it’s obvious that if Thibs just rested one or two players for an extra 2-3 min here and there we’d be fine now. Shit we’d have one this one in 5.
Sure.
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trade a boatload of picks for Mikal Bridges, and hire Jay Wright as the coach. Go full Nova Knicks and get a coach that can regulate the minutes. Something drastic has to change in order to maximize Jalen Brunson's prime.
Are you stupid?
The idiots will come out in force. Best to ignore. Great fucking season, injuries got us in the end
I shouldn’t have laughed. I’m expecting Bane to come out of the fucking floor next.
I don’t even know what to say.
2024 sports fan on full display
Neither will I. Fuck both teams. Hope whoever comes out of the West sweeps these shits.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
Thibs will keep his job and has done do many things really well. The team is just toast. But he will have to manage loads next year a little better than he usually does. If Burks is one of our best players in this series it's fair to ask why he couldn't have a few minutes against the sixers. It's also fair to question the most injuries in the playoffs by far on the team that plays people the most by far. It can't be proven but it's fair to ask.
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
2012?
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
It’s such a lazy take
IDK about that. Even a healthy OG had his struggles against Siakam.
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
Managing playing time is not going to help freak injuries like Randle, Bogie, or Brunson. If a guy falls on the ground at these speeds, sometimes they're gonna get hurt. That's true if they play 4 minutes or 40.
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trade a boatload of picks for Mikal Bridges, and hire Jay Wright as the coach. Go full Nova Knicks and get a coach that can regulate the minutes. Something drastic has to change in order to maximize Jalen Brunson's prime.
2024 sports fan on full display
Born in 1984 and I'm a lifelong Knicks fan. Just because I don't think we can win with Thibodeau doesn't mean I am a "2024 sports fan".
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Probably my favorite Knicks team since the mid 90s team.
2012?
Anak, nah. I was never a huge Melo guy. Brunson is a much more likable alpha.
you were calling for Alec Burks in the series against the Sixers? seriously?
Talk about a fan that doesn't know his basketball. Look up their minute averages from this playoffs.
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Brunson, Randle, Robinson, OG, Bogdanovic would be be a formidable starting five and those are who we lost
As for the minutes thing, it's not all his fault. What do you want him to do when you lose so many starters/rotation players? Also they traded two rotation guys for 1 guy midseason. He deservers some criticism for keeping starters in at end of games when it's a blowout (that's what got randle injured) but I don't blame him for the minutes. He really had no choice this season. If he kept Jalen/Hart/Dante at 35 mpg this postseason, they likely don't beat the sixers.
The key is getting the injured guys back next season and adding to the depth.
Agreed. That's going to be an important topic of discussion for our off-season threads, no doubt about it.
It's not just about running your starters into the ground, it's also about not playing your bench and getting them up to speed.
It's not just this year either, what about last year?
You want to trade Randle? Everybody other than Brunson? You need to look at Thibs too. Without Brunson, where would Thibs be?
I agree he doesn't deserve to be fired, especially after this season. Just stating my opinion that Thibodeau won't win a title with the Knicks unless he has a Tom Coughlin change in his approach. This team will eventually need to make a coaching change if they want to win.
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Literally none of the injuries were because of minutes wtf are you talking baout?
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
But we all saw how Bogdanovic got hurt. And Randle. Mitch’s initial injury occurred with him playing regular starter minutes early in the season.
I’m not a Thins guy, but people’s injuries are the least of my concerns with him.
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
I agree with Anakim. Thibs doesn't deserve to be fired but this is his modus operandi. We will eventually need to get a new coach for this team to win a title.
He’s banged up too, but he was genuinely awful for 90% of the postseason. That contract is gonna have to be awful team friendly.
Yeah if Randle would have had a few minutes more rest, he would have been able to avoid falling over some bench guy on the Heat going for a rebound.
Mitch gets hurt every year. Hes not durable.
OG hurt his elbow and then pulled a hammy on a fast break.
Which injuries specifically are caused by overuse?