Try and get someone. I think they say if Randle was here and og doesn’t get hurt we could have been in the finals. And they’re right.
I’m more curious if the Knicks do make a move for a 2/3 what it looks like. Who do they get and who goes to bench as a result. Donte Josh or both if Randle is still here and they make a swing for someone.
RE: I get emotions are high, but once we settle down
Try and get someone. I think they say if Randle was here and og doesn’t get hurt we could have been in the finals. And they’re right.
I’m more curious if the Knicks do make a move for a 2/3 what it looks like. Who do they get and who goes to bench as a result. Donte Josh or both if Randle is still here and they make a swing for someone.
I am leaning towards your thinking but Randle is up for an extension and if he wants a max deal i truly wonder if the Knicks do it
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Literally none of the injuries were because of minutes wtf are you talking baout?
Sorry to say you're wrong. Thibs overworked his players. Doesn't explain all the injuries but it certainly accounts for some of the soft tissue injuries.
Not a single one of those injuries had anything to do with the workload.
This team is pure heart and grit. They battled all season, and today was no different. They were completely outmanned and didn't give up. I love this team and I'm already looking forward to next year.
Personally, I wouldn't change anything. If Randle and Robinson are healthy, this team is a top 5 team in the league and a legit contender for the title.
Check out the postgame show for today on KnicksFanTV:
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Literally none of the injuries were because of minutes wtf are you talking baout?
Sorry to say you're wrong. Thibs overworked his players. Doesn't explain all the injuries but it certainly accounts for some of the soft tissue injuries.
Not a single one of those injuries had anything to do with the workload.
Happy with the season and there is a lot behind the scenes in practice, off days, and training that perhaps Thibs doesn't get credit for. He deserves to come back.
But I am not sure how some of you are so convinced workload has nothing to do with it. Injuries often result from cumulative loading and from muscles that are too fatigued to protect and react. They also come from being in the game when you shouldn't. The injuries to Hart, Randle, OG, and even some others could be related to extended minutes. Ihhart was also hurt. What would qualify the as an injury related to workload if not those types of injuries. Someone running down the court and collapsing while screaming I am too tired? You can't prove it either way. But questioning workload isn't off the table. It's a fair question for next season.
Obviously, considering all the injuries, this season has to be looked
upon as a success. However, one more thing. They won big in Game 5 and then no showed in the next 2 games. Nobody wants to talk about that? A compromised Hart cannot be a good enough reason.
I think a lot of the detractors are just jealous of these players playing in New York. Fuck them all.
Because nobody was playing crazy minutes when theu got hurt
They came out and played like they didn't want to be there. And Brunson had his worst half of the series. You can't assume that just because you have a game 7 at home you're going to win it, and it felt like the Knicks let their guard down a bit game 6 and couldn't ever get it back up.
But the series was lost when OG went down. We just had no way to match Siakem inside, and the Pacers realized that and took advantage.
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Literally none of the injuries were because of minutes wtf are you talking baout?
Sorry to say you're wrong. Thibs overworked his players. Doesn't explain all the injuries but it certainly accounts for some of the soft tissue injuries.
Not a single one of those injuries had anything to do with the workload.
Happy with the season and there is a lot behind the scenes in practice, off days, and training that perhaps Thibs doesn't get credit for. He deserves to come back.
But I am not sure how some of you are so convinced workload has nothing to do with it. Injuries often result from cumulative loading and from muscles that are too fatigued to protect and react. They also come from being in the game when you shouldn't. The injuries to Hart, Randle, OG, and even some others could be related to extended minutes. Ihhart was also hurt. What would qualify the as an injury related to workload if not those types of injuries. Someone running down the court and collapsing while screaming I am too tired? You can't prove it either way. But questioning workload isn't off the table. It's a fair question for next season.
Hartenstein - aggravating a previous injury
Robinson - injured previously, came back too soon from surgery and re-injury in playoffs is due to dirty play by Embiid
OG - elbow was pre-existing and hamstring is a fluke thing
Brunson - injuries not related at all to usage
Bogdonovich - not usage related
Hart - the only one that could MAYBE be related, but also a freak injury and was also aggravated by being pulled and twisted by a defender.
I think it is valid to question why the bench wasn't used just because they have some productive players. But, the whole load management thing is bullshit. The players begging for it are just soft. I grew up watching guys mostly play every night and starters normally played 33+ minutes routinely without soft tissue injuries.
wearing a regfie shirt eith his picutre with the choke sign...dude you beat 2 injury riddled teams, both teams if healthy would of swept you into oblivion..
I want thme game 1 next year at MSG on national televisio , beat them by 50
The OG injury, and then once that happened, the 4th quarter of game 3.
With OG we roll them. Without him, we need to steal that game 3 badly once we had it in our grip.
That said, I dunno how anyone can bitch about this team or anyone associated with it right now. Drawing Philly in the 1st round this year was not easy, and that Philly team was not typical of who you would expect to play in the 1st round as a 2 seed.
The Knicks are the 2nd best team in the East when they step on the court next year in my opinion. And that’s just the baseline of what they can be when healthy. Let’s see what moves Rose has in store.
The OG injury, and then once that happened, the 4th quarter of game 3.
With OG we roll them. Without him, we need to steal that game 3 badly once we had it in our grip.
That said, I dunno how anyone can bitch about this team or anyone associated with it right now. Drawing Philly in the 1st round this year was not easy, and that Philly team was not typical of who you would expect to play in the 1st round as a 2 seed.
The Knicks are the 2nd best team in the East when they step on the court next year in my opinion. And that’s just the baseline of what they can be when healthy. Let’s see what moves Rose has in store.
Yeah if they have even a good 4th quarter in game 3 the series is basiclaly over, the Pacers were reeling and out of gas it looked like and the Knicks let them off the hook
Apparently Paul Pierce was stomping on a Brunson jersey after the game.
What a pathetic bitch.
Where? Why would he do that? A large portion of these recently retired former players are morons.
I have noticed a lot of ex players and media hate this Knicks team for some reason
They’re jealous, realizing a basketball hero in NYC gets more love than they ever dreamed of getting. Many of them were too scared of the pressure of playing in NY
The OG injury, and then once that happened, the 4th quarter of game 3.
With OG we roll them. Without him, we need to steal that game 3 badly once we had it in our grip.
That said, I dunno how anyone can bitch about this team or anyone associated with it right now. Drawing Philly in the 1st round this year was not easy, and that Philly team was not typical of who you would expect to play in the 1st round as a 2 seed.
The Knicks are the 2nd best team in the East when they step on the court next year in my opinion. And that’s just the baseline of what they can be when healthy. Let’s see what moves Rose has in store.
but this team is really talented, i know guys want to say oh they got where they are because they played harder than everyone but whrn fully healthy they were besting teams by 20
Well what can you say? Disappointing end to a great season. The nail in the coffin was Hart's injury Friday. Indiana is an elite offensive team with bigs that can score and we just ran out of people to defend them. You can talk about "effort" all you want but basketball is about matchups and when you lose your 3 best defenders since game one- Mitch, OG and Hart playing severely compromised you just run out of bodies the defend. It's no coincidence that from the mid 2nd qtr on Friday through today they shot like 65-70%. Of course no season ending thread would be complete without Anak's hysterical drama queen act and some guys parachuting in to kill Thibs when we didn't hear a peep from them all year. Thibs is by far the best coach we've had here since the Riley/Van Gundy years. The minutes police are flat out wrong but we'll never convince you so I've given up trying. This team thrived on those minutes. Maybe guys like IHart and OG got a bit banged up down the stretch playing more minutes than they have in the past and we may need to watch that going forward a bit. We needed every minute out of everyone. That Sixers series came down to a total of 1 total point differential over 6 games.
It sucks we all wanted more but this group gave us all they had. NY Giants16 you're an awesome fan but you're a bit too hard on IHart. The guy never played anywhere close to these minutes ever in his career. He was gassed much of this series. I want him back next year in a similar rotation with Mitch or if we replace Mitch. As winey and douchey as Carlysle was this series he's a good coach and he knew how to attack us once we were wounded too bad. This reminds me a bit of the Knicks team that lost to the Bulls in '92 the only team to take Jordan to a game 7. Now no way is Indiana near that good but this beat up group gave us so much and like '92 you feel like this team is on the cusp of something special the next 3-5 years.
The nba is slowly becoming like the NFL with injuries
And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Which of these injuries are you blaming on playing too many minutes? I cannot wait for your answer.
As bad a day it was for the Knicks, your performance on this thread is much worse. Embarrassing actually
RE: Guess I was lucky missing this one coaching my son's baseball game
Well what can you say? Disappointing end to a great season. The nail in the coffin was Hart's injury Friday. Indiana is an elite offensive team with bigs that can score and we just ran out of people to defend them. You can talk about "effort" all you want but basketball is about matchups and when you lose your 3 best defenders since game one- Mitch, OG and Hart playing severely compromised you just run out of bodies the defend. It's no coincidence that from the mid 2nd qtr on Friday through today they shot like 65-70%. Of course no season ending thread would be complete without Anak's hysterical drama queen act and some guys parachuting in to kill Thibs when we didn't hear a peep from them all year. Thibs is by far the best coach we've had here since the Riley/Van Gundy years. The minutes police are flat out wrong but we'll never convince you so I've given up trying. This team thrived on those minutes. Maybe guys like IHart and OG got a bit banged up down the stretch playing more minutes than they have in the past and we may need to watch that going forward a bit. We needed every minute out of everyone. That Sixers series came down to a total of 1 total point differential over 6 games.
It sucks we all wanted more but this group gave us all they had. NY Giants16 you're an awesome fan but you're a bit too hard on IHart. The guy never played anywhere close to these minutes ever in his career. He was gassed much of this series. I want him back next year in a similar rotation with Mitch or if we replace Mitch. As winey and douchey as Carlysle was this series he's a good coach and he knew how to attack us once we were wounded too bad. This reminds me a bit of the Knicks team that lost to the Bulls in '92 the only team to take Jordan to a game 7. Now no way is Indiana near that good but this beat up group gave us so much and like '92 you feel like this team is on the cusp of something special the next 3-5 years.
Hartenstein was awful for 2 series, he had maybe 2 good games, he was slow to help he was awful defensively, he was awful offensively...
I am sorry he severely dissapointed me this playoffs, i think everyone left it all out there, to me he left a lot to be desired out there..
They alluded to it a bit in the postgame and bill Simmons said the same in his podcast. Between the Achilles and the shoulder thing, I don’t think he was near 100%
With Mitch out too we had no one else to go to.
Precious had some nice minutes this year but I wouldn’t give him a contract unless it’s super team friendly.
wearing those hideous uniforms at home on a game 7. It's long overdue the NBA stopped all this uniform bullshit and got back to home and away uniforms.
Is the Pacers and their fans acting like they accomplished something, like Haliburton acting like they are god's gift, dude you beat a bucks team in 6 games who didnt have Giannis for the entire series and Dame for 2 of the games and the games he played he was compromised..
You then needed 7 to beat a team that was missing 4 rotation players, 3 starters..
Take your wins and be thankful because next yesr you will be a 6th seed or in the play-in
Is the Pacers and their fans acting like they accomplished something, like Haliburton acting like they are god's gift, dude you beat a bucks team in 6 games who didnt have Giannis for the entire series and Dame for 2 of the games and the games he played he was compromised..
You then needed 7 to beat a team that was missing 4 rotation players, 3 starters..
Take your wins and be thankful because next yesr you will be a 6th seed or in the play-in
They are annoying as phuq, especially Halliburton.
Master motivators who employ a high effort, defensive team strategy and consistently get results - but on the flip side, that intensity can burn out it's top players before the playoffs are over.
The Knicks dropping like flies has been giving me horrible flashbacks to those Tortorella teams making runs with increasingly depleted rosters and running out of steam.
Master motivators who employ a high effort, defensive team strategy and consistently get results - but on the flip side, that intensity can burn out it's top players before the playoffs are over.
The Knicks dropping like flies has been giving me horrible flashbacks to those Tortorella teams making runs with increasingly depleted rosters and running out of steam.
I just don't know how this can be pinned on him. Nobody played unreasonable minutes during the year. It's not his fault Embiid is a crash test dummy flopped who dove into Mitch's ankles, nor is it his fault OG is injury prone. Hartenstein and Hart and Brunson just got hurt playing hard.
Is the Pacers and their fans acting like they accomplished something, like Haliburton acting like they are god's gift, dude you beat a bucks team in 6 games who didnt have Giannis for the entire series and Dame for 2 of the games and the games he played he was compromised..
You then needed 7 to beat a team that was missing 4 rotation players, 3 starters..
Take your wins and be thankful because next yesr you will be a 6th seed or in the play-in
this is like the Hawks making it to the conference finals 3 years ago.
Is the Pacers and their fans acting like they accomplished something, like Haliburton acting like they are god's gift, dude you beat a bucks team in 6 games who didnt have Giannis for the entire series and Dame for 2 of the games and the games he played he was compromised..
You then needed 7 to beat a team that was missing 4 rotation players, 3 starters..
Take your wins and be thankful because next yesr you will be a 6th seed or in the play-in
I think it is very likely that Indiana gets swept by Boston. Jrue and White will keep Haliburton in check, and they have plenty of size up front to slow down Siakam.
It took the Pacers 7 games to get passed a decimated Knicks team, they are in for a rude awakening when it comes to facing a nearly full strength (and well rested) Celtics team.
I’m more curious if the Knicks do make a move for a 2/3 what it looks like. Who do they get and who goes to bench as a result. Donte Josh or both if Randle is still here and they make a swing for someone.
Leon Rose built this rotation:
Brunson, DDV, OG, Randle, iHart
Hart, Deuce, Bogey, Burks, Mitch
Now he’s got the chance to aim even higher.
He’s got to go after another superstar to pair with Brunson
If Giannis shakes loose than give up all ur picks and Randle and Robinson
If Durant shakes loose than not as much
Other than those two idk who else
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Apparently Paul Pierce was stomping on a Brunson jersey after the game.
What a pathetic bitch.
Where? Why would he do that? A large portion of these recently retired former players are morons.
I have noticed a lot of ex players and media hate this Knicks team for some reason
I’m more curious if the Knicks do make a move for a 2/3 what it looks like. Who do they get and who goes to bench as a result. Donte Josh or both if Randle is still here and they make a swing for someone.
I am leaning towards your thinking but Randle is up for an extension and if he wants a max deal i truly wonder if the Knicks do it
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Literally none of the injuries were because of minutes wtf are you talking baout?
Sorry to say you're wrong. Thibs overworked his players. Doesn't explain all the injuries but it certainly accounts for some of the soft tissue injuries.
Personally, I wouldn't change anything. If Randle and Robinson are healthy, this team is a top 5 team in the league and a legit contender for the title.
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Literally none of the injuries were because of minutes wtf are you talking baout?
Sorry to say you're wrong. Thibs overworked his players. Doesn't explain all the injuries but it certainly accounts for some of the soft tissue injuries.
Not a single one of those injuries had anything to do with the workload.
Happy with the season and there is a lot behind the scenes in practice, off days, and training that perhaps Thibs doesn't get credit for. He deserves to come back.
But I am not sure how some of you are so convinced workload has nothing to do with it. Injuries often result from cumulative loading and from muscles that are too fatigued to protect and react. They also come from being in the game when you shouldn't. The injuries to Hart, Randle, OG, and even some others could be related to extended minutes. Ihhart was also hurt. What would qualify the as an injury related to workload if not those types of injuries. Someone running down the court and collapsing while screaming I am too tired? You can't prove it either way. But questioning workload isn't off the table. It's a fair question for next season.
I think a lot of the detractors are just jealous of these players playing in New York. Fuck them all.
Randle was at 35 minutes a game, he was in a game that the Knicks were up 17 with 4 minutes left yes, but he was about to come out of the game..
Bojan was not even close to minutes..
OG was an elbow injurh and then was playing big minutes in the playoffs because well thats ehat players do in the playoffs..
Brunson was around 35 minutes a game during the regular season..
Hart eas playing 25 when everyone was helsthy and Djvo was playing 20..
This idea that Thibs just ran them into the ground willingly is absolutely stupjd the big minutes didnt happen until half the team was already hurt
But the series was lost when OG went down. We just had no way to match Siakem inside, and the Pacers realized that and took advantage.
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Literally none of the injuries were because of minutes wtf are you talking baout?
Sorry to say you're wrong. Thibs overworked his players. Doesn't explain all the injuries but it certainly accounts for some of the soft tissue injuries.
Not a single one of those injuries had anything to do with the workload.
Happy with the season and there is a lot behind the scenes in practice, off days, and training that perhaps Thibs doesn't get credit for. He deserves to come back.
But I am not sure how some of you are so convinced workload has nothing to do with it. Injuries often result from cumulative loading and from muscles that are too fatigued to protect and react. They also come from being in the game when you shouldn't. The injuries to Hart, Randle, OG, and even some others could be related to extended minutes. Ihhart was also hurt. What would qualify the as an injury related to workload if not those types of injuries. Someone running down the court and collapsing while screaming I am too tired? You can't prove it either way. But questioning workload isn't off the table. It's a fair question for next season.
Robinson - injured previously, came back too soon from surgery and re-injury in playoffs is due to dirty play by Embiid
OG - elbow was pre-existing and hamstring is a fluke thing
Brunson - injuries not related at all to usage
Bogdonovich - not usage related
Hart - the only one that could MAYBE be related, but also a freak injury and was also aggravated by being pulled and twisted by a defender.
I think it is valid to question why the bench wasn't used just because they have some productive players. But, the whole load management thing is bullshit. The players begging for it are just soft. I grew up watching guys mostly play every night and starters normally played 33+ minutes routinely without soft tissue injuries.
I want thme game 1 next year at MSG on national televisio , beat them by 50
With OG we roll them. Without him, we need to steal that game 3 badly once we had it in our grip.
That said, I dunno how anyone can bitch about this team or anyone associated with it right now. Drawing Philly in the 1st round this year was not easy, and that Philly team was not typical of who you would expect to play in the 1st round as a 2 seed.
The Knicks are the 2nd best team in the East when they step on the court next year in my opinion. And that’s just the baseline of what they can be when healthy. Let’s see what moves Rose has in store.
With OG we roll them. Without him, we need to steal that game 3 badly once we had it in our grip.
That said, I dunno how anyone can bitch about this team or anyone associated with it right now. Drawing Philly in the 1st round this year was not easy, and that Philly team was not typical of who you would expect to play in the 1st round as a 2 seed.
The Knicks are the 2nd best team in the East when they step on the court next year in my opinion. And that’s just the baseline of what they can be when healthy. Let’s see what moves Rose has in store.
Yeah if they have even a good 4th quarter in game 3 the series is basiclaly over, the Pacers were reeling and out of gas it looked like and the Knicks let them off the hook
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Apparently Paul Pierce was stomping on a Brunson jersey after the game.
What a pathetic bitch.
Where? Why would he do that? A large portion of these recently retired former players are morons.
I have noticed a lot of ex players and media hate this Knicks team for some reason
They’re jealous, realizing a basketball hero in NYC gets more love than they ever dreamed of getting. Many of them were too scared of the pressure of playing in NY
I know season just ended but who do you think is target 1, 2 or 3...
or do you thinj they run it back with Randle
With OG we roll them. Without him, we need to steal that game 3 badly once we had it in our grip.
That said, I dunno how anyone can bitch about this team or anyone associated with it right now. Drawing Philly in the 1st round this year was not easy, and that Philly team was not typical of who you would expect to play in the 1st round as a 2 seed.
The Knicks are the 2nd best team in the East when they step on the court next year in my opinion. And that’s just the baseline of what they can be when healthy. Let’s see what moves Rose has in store.
+1
That sums it up.
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Apparently Paul Pierce was stomping on a Brunson jersey after the game.
What a pathetic bitch.
Where? Why would he do that? A large portion of these recently retired former players are morons.
I have noticed a lot of ex players and media hate this Knicks team for some reason
Here’s my conspiracy theory… Knicks are hated because they’re try hards. The majority of NBA players aren’t that, which is why they catch shit.
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But the injuries caught up with them eventually
I know season just ended but who do you think is target 1, 2 or 3...
or do you thinj they run it back with Randle
I’m not sure anyone actually becomes available this summer
Fine by me. I’m not obsessed with the Knicks adding a star, but I’m concerned with other eastern conference teams adding them.
+1
You would have to add another 3 and d wing next to him and Brunson, i think Randle would have to go..
I dont thinknhe gets moved, they are going to try and build around him and amobely and trade Garland and Allen to get more pieces that fit
I think it works offensively. In fact, I think our offense becomes unstoppable. Defense would be my concern.
The OG injury was obviously enormous this series but I bogie was really big too. His shooting and size would have been huge.
I’d be hesitant moving on from Randle. His toughness…and it’s real toughness- will be big. They don’t lose this series with a healthy Randle.
Hartenstein was awful. Maybe he was playing hurt but he killed them.
It sucks we all wanted more but this group gave us all they had. NY Giants16 you're an awesome fan but you're a bit too hard on IHart. The guy never played anywhere close to these minutes ever in his career. He was gassed much of this series. I want him back next year in a similar rotation with Mitch or if we replace Mitch. As winey and douchey as Carlysle was this series he's a good coach and he knew how to attack us once we were wounded too bad. This reminds me a bit of the Knicks team that lost to the Bulls in '92 the only team to take Jordan to a game 7. Now no way is Indiana near that good but this beat up group gave us so much and like '92 you feel like this team is on the cusp of something special the next 3-5 years.
They literally have beaten the Bucks without their best two players and the Knicks without their entire starting lineup
In hockey which is 10x more violent the rangers haven’t had a window like that in 30 years (well ever, but I’m going back to ‘94)
Hate Boston but at this point I hope this Indiana franchise is exposed for the mediocre frauds that they are
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And of course the minutes Thibs puts on certain players don't exactly help.
I am sorry blaming Thibs for any of the injuries is just plain stupid, nobidy was playing big minutes at the time of all the injuries, its just ridiculous to even say its his fualt
You don't think these minutes add up and take a toll on these players? Of course they do and this is what Thibs is known for. He will ride his racehorses into the ground.
You realize nobody was over 35 minutes a game before the injuries right? nobody in the top 14
The Knicks season will end with injuries to:
Jalen Brunson
Julius Randle
Mitchell Robinson
OG Anunoby
Bojan Bogdanovic
Josh Hart
DDV
Isaiah Hartenstein
Look at what he did to Jimmy Butler. I'm not suggesting Thibs get fired, but his Achilles Heel is by far his minutes allocation. He shortens his bench, has a small rotation and will run his starters into the ground.
Which of these injuries are you blaming on playing too many minutes? I cannot wait for your answer.
As bad a day it was for the Knicks, your performance on this thread is much worse. Embarrassing actually
It sucks we all wanted more but this group gave us all they had. NY Giants16 you're an awesome fan but you're a bit too hard on IHart. The guy never played anywhere close to these minutes ever in his career. He was gassed much of this series. I want him back next year in a similar rotation with Mitch or if we replace Mitch. As winey and douchey as Carlysle was this series he's a good coach and he knew how to attack us once we were wounded too bad. This reminds me a bit of the Knicks team that lost to the Bulls in '92 the only team to take Jordan to a game 7. Now no way is Indiana near that good but this beat up group gave us so much and like '92 you feel like this team is on the cusp of something special the next 3-5 years.
Hartenstein was awful for 2 series, he had maybe 2 good games, he was slow to help he was awful defensively, he was awful offensively...
I am sorry he severely dissapointed me this playoffs, i think everyone left it all out there, to me he left a lot to be desired out there..
With Mitch out too we had no one else to go to.
Precious had some nice minutes this year but I wouldn’t give him a contract unless it’s super team friendly.
Nuggets down 10 after being up 20.
Nuggets down 10 after being up 20.
I woke up and checked the score with 1:30 left to go and couldn't believe the score. I thought it was a glitch or something.
Believe that
Ideal.
You then needed 7 to beat a team that was missing 4 rotation players, 3 starters..
Take your wins and be thankful because next yesr you will be a 6th seed or in the play-in
You then needed 7 to beat a team that was missing 4 rotation players, 3 starters..
Take your wins and be thankful because next yesr you will be a 6th seed or in the play-in
They are annoying as phuq, especially Halliburton.
The Knicks dropping like flies has been giving me horrible flashbacks to those Tortorella teams making runs with increasingly depleted rosters and running out of steam.
The Knicks dropping like flies has been giving me horrible flashbacks to those Tortorella teams making runs with increasingly depleted rosters and running out of steam.
I just don't know how this can be pinned on him. Nobody played unreasonable minutes during the year. It's not his fault Embiid is a crash test dummy flopped who dove into Mitch's ankles, nor is it his fault OG is injury prone. Hartenstein and Hart and Brunson just got hurt playing hard.
You then needed 7 to beat a team that was missing 4 rotation players, 3 starters..
Take your wins and be thankful because next yesr you will be a 6th seed or in the play-in
this is like the Hawks making it to the conference finals 3 years ago.
You then needed 7 to beat a team that was missing 4 rotation players, 3 starters..
Take your wins and be thankful because next yesr you will be a 6th seed or in the play-in
I think it is very likely that Indiana gets swept by Boston. Jrue and White will keep Haliburton in check, and they have plenty of size up front to slow down Siakam.
It took the Pacers 7 games to get passed a decimated Knicks team, they are in for a rude awakening when it comes to facing a nearly full strength (and well rested) Celtics team.