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Explain to me how a 100 yr old uniform rerelease honoring

RELICDOA : 5/19/2024 2:08 pm
One of the most storied franchises has caused so much backlash. The comments across the media are mind numbing. Is society becoming this dumb?!
“These are not Giants colors” These are literally Giants colors
“Trying to copy the Canadians” These are the Giants original color scheme from the 20’s (pretty much the exact Jersey)
“Who thought this color scheme was good?” Someone 100 years ago
“Tan pants?! Gross” original pants the Giants wore (khaki legit goes with any shirt color)
“Why didn’t they choose the 80’s uniform?” We are a 100 year old franchise paying homage to our storied past.

How have people become so decisive? For a brand to last 100 years is incredibly impressive. For a brand to pay homage to the originators is the ultimate sign of respect. I grew up with the 80’s Giants logo and I love it, but paying homage to our elders who are no longer here ties all Giants fans and players of the past to present day. Between social media comments from clueless fans as well as clueless comments from Giants fans it only leads me to think that being negative someone is a new sickness.
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Because people use complaining  
Sy'56 : 5/19/2024 3:39 pm : link
as a way to cope with something they do not like.
RELICDOA  
BillT : 5/19/2024 3:52 pm : link
Beautifully expressed. Thank you.
RE: People are assholes...  
Jack Stroud : 5/19/2024 4:11 pm : link
In comment 16519562 Brown_Hornet said:
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You are correct! This is why my wife will not allow me to apply to be a Walmart greeter!
In my best Marge impression  
darren in pdx : 5/19/2024 4:17 pm : link
'I just think they're neat.'

I think I'm one of the few that actually like them. But some people don't understand the concept of subjectivity or opinion versus fact. It's one thing to not be into the design which is totally fine, but acting like it's the end of the world and not understanding the historical significance of why the design is what it is is a whole other level of being ignorant.
RE: People are assholes...  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/19/2024 4:26 pm : link
In comment 16519562 Brown_Hornet said:
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Moronic Assholes. Idiocracy has become a documentary
Sports Fans in General, Giants Fans in Particular,  
clatterbuck : 5/19/2024 4:27 pm : link
are not exempt from the critical thinking deficit that plagues other aspects of society and social interaction.
Rooting for laundry  
Talisman_52 : 5/19/2024 4:42 pm : link
I’m not a fan of the uniforms, but the team can play in rompers for all I care. I just want the team to start winning again.

In the end it’s really just a marketing ploy by the team and the league to sell more apparel.

Some fans absolutely believe that they must wear the current year’s colors/jerseys to support the team. While that’s their prerogative, it does kind of suck to spend all that money and it’s only good for 1 year in those people’s minds.

There was a comedian, I forget who, who once said that the players change so much that we’re essentially just rooting for laundry. Maybe he was right. 😆
RE: Rooting for laundry  
Talisman_52 : 5/19/2024 4:43 pm : link
Might’ve been Seinfeld.
People have different opinions  
HardTruth : 5/19/2024 4:59 pm : link
News at 11
If the Giants want respect to their history  
HardTruth : 5/19/2024 5:07 pm : link
They should try recognizing the 4 NFL Championships that they won
RE: Rooting for laundry  
Matt123 : 5/19/2024 5:36 pm : link
In comment 16519744 Talisman_52 said:
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There was a comedian, I forget who, who once said that the players change so much that we’re essentially just rooting for laundry. Maybe he was right. 😆


Yeah, was a comedian with short-lived TV show, you may remember the name: Jerry Seinfeld ;)

The uniforms are really ugly  
Gman11 : 5/19/2024 5:45 pm : link
but I've said it before, I don't care if they play in their pajamas as long as they win.
RE: RE: I like them.  
truebluelarry : 5/19/2024 5:51 pm : link
In comment 16519574 k2tampa said:
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In comment 16519560 truebluelarry said:


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They are historically accurate and check every box with regard to their intent.

How people respond to the aesthetics with liking or disliking is entirely subjective.

One thing I can say honestly, you really can't judge them objectively until you see them on the field. Some opinions may change between now and later in the season when they actually wear them in a game.




They aren't historically accurate. Parts come from three different years - from 1925 to 1938. If you want to honor the 100 year anniversary, use the 1925 uniform.


That's not entirely true, the part about the pants & socks coming from 1925 is just marketing mumbo-jumbo. The 1933 pants & socks were exactly the same design, the only difference being the tone of blue in 1933 was lighter than 1925. So that's inaccurate. The pants & socks are 1933 vintage.

The change in helmet design wasn't a flippant choice, it came from necessity. The 1933 spider stripe helmet design proved to be too difficult to replicate on the modern helmet shell designs, they would have looked terrible. The wings are much easier to replicate, and in my opinion, look good. I think that was a good compromise choice.


RE: RE: Rooting for laundry  
Talisman_52 : 5/19/2024 5:51 pm : link
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Yeah, was a comedian with short-lived TV show, you may remember the name: Jerry Seinfeld ;)


Haha. I did correct myself in the post immediately after.

Seinfeld is so ingrained in my subconscious, that I sometimes forget what was an actual episode and what wasn’t. Sometimes art imitates life;sometimes life imitates art, and sometimes we just live in a bizarro world.
I personally welcome the alternate throwback uniforms.  
DonnieD89 : 5/19/2024 5:52 pm : link
People have to realize that these uniforms aren’t permanent. They will probably never be worn again for quite some time, if not ever. I say to all those haters of the uniforms, deal with it. It’s just a freaking jersey and it’s not the permanent ones.
Some of you guys are reading too much into this  
Jersey Heel : 5/19/2024 5:56 pm : link
Trying to tie this into some kind of critique of modern society just because they don’t like the way something looks? It’s a uniform. Some people like. Some don’t. It’s entirely subjective. It’s weird how butt hurt some of you are that everyone doesn’t love them.
Social media  
cjac : 5/19/2024 5:59 pm : link
Has pretty much ruined everything, and has solidified my opinion that when people can anonymously give their supposed opinion they show what small minded sanctimonious petty fucks that they are.
RE: They are ugly  
islander1 : 5/19/2024 6:27 pm : link
In comment 16519576 Rudy5757 said:
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That’s why the uproar.

I couldn’t care less what they wear if they win


This, it's hideous.
RE: I like them.  
gridirony : 5/19/2024 6:29 pm : link
In comment 16519560 truebluelarry said:
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They are historically accurate and check every box with regard to their intent.

How people respond to the aesthetics with liking or disliking is entirely subjective.

One thing I can say honestly, you really can't judge them objectively until you see them on the field. Some opinions may change between now and later in the season when they actually wear them in a game.


True.

In a game, that red band around the center will look even uglier, moving in slow motion on a 350 pound lineman.

If they had gone with black and white instead of blue and red, I could just hear the jokes about Belted Galloways.
Nice  
Simms : 5/19/2024 6:30 pm : link
I like the jerseys and will buy one once available. I also prefer the blue jerseys we wear now vs the 80's.

Everyone has an opinion.

Its a jersey. If your life hinges on a jersey reveal time just scroll on. And I do hope things get better.
Giants want to sell everyone another jersey  
US1 Giants : 5/19/2024 6:39 pm : link
It is all about money.
Personally, I think they are ugly...BUT  
Matt M. : 5/19/2024 6:55 pm : link
they are absolutely the right kit to unveil for a 100th anniversary season. As Eric says, our current uniforms are already a throwback to the 50s/60s. We already have 2 alternates that are throwbacks to the 80s. So, using this in an historic season is perfectly fine.

What I do have a problem with is the grossly overpriced 1925 merchandise they are already hawking.
RE: IMO  
KeoweeFan : 5/19/2024 6:59 pm : link
In comment 16519553 Scooter185 said:
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People were looking for something that resonates with fans that are still alive today.

If the Yankees were to come out with a Highlanders alternate jersey I think it would land just as flat.

Just because it's historic doesn't mean it's going to be a hit with the fans


When the franchise does something with the obvious intent to pander to current fans, they are correctly criticized.
In this instance they are clearly honoring the fact that the team is 100 years old, by showing what was attractive 100 years ago.

Some of you would not be satisfied unless Taylor Swift penned and sang a commemorative song!

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Micko : 5/19/2024 7:40 pm : link
People like what they like. As I'm in my 50s - I love the 80s giants uniform and would prefer they stick with that. The turn of the century uniforms are a bit jarring - but in some ways also kind of cool as they are kind of like the Steelers throwback so whatever. Still - they are kinda ugly. lol.
People are ridiculous  
I Love Clams Casino : 5/19/2024 9:12 pm : link
It’s a commemorative uniform!

For what it is, I think they look awesome

If people don’t like it, I get it but the negative reactions by people who don’t understand the objective. Let them wallow in their stupidity.
The idea is - homage .....  
Manny in CA : 5/19/2024 9:16 pm : link

"An expression of great respect and honor", not an elicitation to 21st Century visual appeal.

The uniform is throw-back (especially the pants) in a most honest way - when men clashed in primitive attire (especially leather helmets) - often in the mud, with no more than a couple of thousand people in the stands, if they were lucky.

So, a tip-of-our hats to you Great New York Football Giants - Grid-Iron Gladiators of Days-of-Old -
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Giants4me : 5/19/2024 9:24 pm : link
like the 60's uniforms best.....even the red.Much prefer the NY Logo to anything else.
Simple but very nice.

Like the stuff just released as well. It's not permanent so all the fuss doesn't matter.

RE: 30's era designs with modern colors just look garish  
81_Great_Dane : 5/19/2024 9:34 pm : link
In comment 16519605 Gary from The East End said:
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I noted this in the other thread. These uniform layouts were designed to work with the more muted color schemes available back in the day. Not that they were great designs to begin with, but at least they made sense.

If you're going for an "old-timey" look, the colors should match the esthetic.
I like them but agree that the colors don’t quite fit the period look. Also, the old-time jerseys had long sleeves, like rugby shirts, and the design would probably look better with them.

I think the winged helmet is a fun change of pace. I know, a lot of fans associate it with Michigan. It’s not like Michigan ownes the style.
RE: RE: IMO  
Scooter185 : 5/19/2024 9:41 pm : link
In comment 16520019 KeoweeFan said:
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In comment 16519553 Scooter185 said:


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People were looking for something that resonates with fans that are still alive today.

If the Yankees were to come out with a Highlanders alternate jersey I think it would land just as flat.

Just because it's historic doesn't mean it's going to be a hit with the fans



When the franchise does something with the obvious intent to pander to current fans, they are correctly criticized.
In this instance they are clearly honoring the fact that the team is 100 years old, by showing what was attractive 100 years ago.

Some of you would not be satisfied unless Taylor Swift penned and sang a commemorative song!


That's the problem: no one cares what looked good 100 years ago, unless it also looks good today (like some throwback hockey jerseys).

The ruler of the roost across a variety of entertainment platforms is nostalgia. Nostalgia sells easily. These unis are historic, commemorative, and an homage to steal some adjectives used by others. What they are not however is nostalgic. And that's where I think the divide lies. If these were uniforms that 30-60 year olds grew up watching they'd be a hit. Because they were last seen before those people were born, that's why they're not liked

Personally I like historic stuff like this, but I understand those who don't.
I think they did an incredible job  
larryflower37 : 5/19/2024 10:39 pm : link
Recreating the original uniforms especially the helmets. It's not a money grab or a permeant throw back it celebrates one of the oldest franchises in the league on their 100th anniversary
The non-stop negativity around this fan base it ridiculous at times.
When a famous singer dies and K-Tel issues an album of the singer's  
Marty in Albany : 5/19/2024 11:06 pm : link
greatest hits, you could say that K-tel is honoring a great artist, or you could say that K-Tell is just making money off the dead.

I have no way of knowing what is going on in the mind of K-Tel, or if, in fact, they make a profit from those albums, BUT it certainly has the APPEARANCE of making money off the dead.
Regardless of their intended inspiration, they are…  
Crispino : 5/19/2024 11:31 pm : link
just ugly. I’m not gonna lose any sleep over it, but it’s my opinion, as well as the opinion of many. Just find them wholly unappealing.
The uniforms are ugly so what  
Maijay : 5/20/2024 5:19 am : link
They were the style at the inception of the Giant franchise. Deal with it and go back to complaining about Daniel Jones. The old ones are so over the top ugly that I kind of like them.
RE: If the Giants want respect to their history  
bLiTz 2k : 5/20/2024 6:12 am : link
In comment 16519794 HardTruth said:
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They should try recognizing the 4 NFL Championships that they won


The entire point is that they won more than 4 championships.

Your comment therein lies the problem - upset that they are honoring history before the super bowl era.
I kinda like these  
section125 : 5/20/2024 7:43 am : link
throw backs and I hate throw backs.

If you want ugly, Green Bay and Pittsburgh have some real doozies.
Of all the things I couldn't care less about...  
Klaatu : 5/20/2024 9:12 am : link
This is the couldn'tcarelessiest.
RE: I kinda like these  
Jerry in_DC : 5/20/2024 9:34 am : link
In comment 16520182 section125 said:
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throw backs and I hate throw backs.

If you want ugly, Green Bay and Pittsburgh have some real doozies.


Agreed. I think these are pretty decent, especially by throwback standards.
The REAL reason for discontent  
GrMtWoods : 5/20/2024 9:48 am : link
They were designed by Daniel Jones, and he did it while he was invading Ukraine.

If you can't see this, I don't know what to tell you.
There are a lot of styles in vogue  
Section331 : 5/20/2024 9:50 am : link
100 years ago that would be laughed at today. I think the throwbacks are pretty ugly, but I get it. That GB and Pitt had uglier ones doesn't really change anything.

I also don't agree that there is more criticism of NYG's throwbacks than there were with GB and Pitt, it's just more apparent to us because we're fans. And yes, people are going to comment on things like this, if you don't want to see negative responses, don't read the comments.
It's not all that complicated  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 5/20/2024 11:31 am : link
I love the uniforms because of their historical nature, but if I viewed them outside of that context, I would think they were ugly as hell. The helmet is great, the jerseys are meh, and the khaki pants are an eyesore when combined with the other two. I'm looking forward to seeing them in action since I can appreciate the history of the uniform and support wearing them on that basis while still thinking it doesn't look great.

If you love the history of the team, you probably have a more positive view of these uniforms. If you're just in it for the aesthetics, it's hard to disagree with the negative reactions. Many fans don't care about how a historical uniform connects with the history of the team. They see what they think is an ugly uniform after a solid 12ish seasons of ugly football and free medium pepsis and it brings out the rage. I think it's really that simple.
RE: RE: If the Giants want respect to their history  
SteelGiant : 5/20/2024 11:59 am : link
In comment 16520170 bLiTz 2k said:
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In comment 16519794 HardTruth said:


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They should try recognizing the 4 NFL Championships that they won



The entire point is that they won more than 4 championships.

Your comment therein lies the problem - upset that they are honoring history before the super bowl era.


This is exactly it, its celebrating 100 years which INCLUDES 4 other championship teams. Also there were a lot of great football players who did not win championships that are being honored by the jerseys.

I dont care what outsiders think, but its little embarrassing that Giants fans are so upset with them. Its our teams history and deserves celebration at the 100 year milestone.

I also know if we kick ass in these uniforms, the same people will be begging for the Giants to where them. We live in a world of ridiculous hypocrisy.
It's an ugly uniform  
Jint Fan in Buc Land : 5/20/2024 1:09 pm : link
On a team that's bottom of the barrel cumulatively over the last ten years.

Yes it's only twice, it's a throwback, and whatever else but who cares about the history when the present (and recent history) sucks?

Why are people still dying to defend this team is a better question. Be silent, be hopeful, but how are you surprised some people hate everything about this team after it's been so poorly run??

Seriously look at the players and coaches and get excited for the season just don't think about how we're hoping to get lucky like we have in tht past bc the same clueless blue blood family that screwed up this team 50 years ago is still in charge.

The rings are a pretty cool touch though. I might pick up a box on eBay late September when we're still searching for our first win.
RE: It's an ugly uniform  
SteelGiant : 5/20/2024 1:56 pm : link
In comment 16520417 Jint Fan in Buc Land said:
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On a team that's bottom of the barrel cumulatively over the last ten years.

Yes it's only twice, it's a throwback, and whatever else but who cares about the history when the present (and recent history) sucks?

Why are people still dying to defend this team is a better question. Be silent, be hopeful, but how are you surprised some people hate everything about this team after it's been so poorly run??

Seriously look at the players and coaches and get excited for the season just don't think about how we're hoping to get lucky like we have in tht past bc the same clueless blue blood family that screwed up this team 50 years ago is still in charge.

The rings are a pretty cool touch though. I might pick up a box on eBay late September when we're still searching for our first win.


LOL, you are right, we should move the 100 year anniversary and wait until the team is more successful.
RE: The REAL reason for discontent  
MNP70 : 5/20/2024 2:19 pm : link
In comment 16520248 GrMtWoods said:
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They were designed by Daniel Jones, and he did it while he was invading Ukraine.

If you can't see this, I don't know what to tell you.


I spit laughed at this one!
The internet has democratized opinion,  
CT Charlie : 5/20/2024 2:33 pm : link
giving every idiot a chance to be heard. People who don't like our throwback uniforms AS THROWBACK UNIFORMS are merely trumpeting their lack of taste, humor, and appreciation for all things historical.
RE: The internet has democratized opinion,  
Jersey Heel : 5/20/2024 2:43 pm : link
In comment 16520493 CT Charlie said:
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giving every idiot a chance to be heard. People who don't like our throwback uniforms AS THROWBACK UNIFORMS are merely trumpeting their lack of taste, humor, and appreciation for all things historical.

Yeah, who needs democracy? Everyone should have the same opinion on the uniforms!
I'll probably buy one  
cuty suzuki : 5/20/2024 3:46 pm : link
in 2 or 3 years when they are old stock for $25. I think that the 100 year history of the Giants is cool. It bugs me that the team and fans rarely say that they are 8 time champions.
RE: I'll probably buy one  
clarkie02360 : 5/20/2024 7:24 pm : link
In comment 16520559 cuty suzuki said:
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in 2 or 3 years when they are old stock for $25. I think that the 100 year history of the Giants is cool. It bugs me that the team and fans rarely say that they are 8 time champions.

I’ll buy too once price comes down. However you are SPOT ON in regards to our championships! We are 8 Time World Champions! The NFL did not start in 1966.
I like them.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 5/20/2024 10:31 pm : link

I'll buy one. It'll most likely be from DHgate, if current 100 year merchandise pricing is any indication but I'll rock one this season. For sure. Just don't know what player.
I don't have a problem with glaring Red, White and Blue Uniforms  
Rich_Houston_1971 : 5/21/2024 9:49 am : link
but I guess some do here...sign of the times I guess.
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