So I am concerned about how the majority of our team seems to be made out of 100% grade A+ porcelain.
However, that being said, I think we are in great position to contend for a championship next year. I would not engage in any of these wild trade theories we have heard.
Next year I see our roster as largely set.
We have Brunson at the 1 and Divo at the 2. I am largely on the fence with OG, but I would resign him and start him at the 3. Then we have the walking bad attitude/All pro Randle at the 4.
So here is where the question marks begin. I would do everything possible to resign Hartenstein, but I'm going to just assume we fail for the sake of preparing for the worst case scenario. So, the Knicks have two first round picks, and a second.
Now, I know nothing about NBA free agency, but people around here keep insisting expiring contracts have value. I'm not convinced by what I have seen out of the Knicks, but if so, then take advantage of the expiring contract of Bogs and get a backup at either PG, SF, C or finally PF. Then use your first 1st round pick on whichever position you did not address yet starting at backup SF, then C, then PG. Use your second first round pick on a backup PG, or a C, or a SF. Then you have your second round pick to use on a C or a PF. I don't know. Maybe I am overly exuberant, but I think our future is ROSES!
Oh, and if the fans here are full of it and Bogs expiring contract has no value, then I would resign him to a reasonable contract and then instead of looking for a backup SF in the draft, I would look for a backup SG who would prove to be an upgrade over Miles McBride.
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I just hope we get a locked in Julius this season. The defensive lapses, the possessions that he doesn't even pretend to try to rotate or closeout, that shit can't happen anymore.
This is the problem right here, what happens when you go over the second apron and this keeps happening and you are stuck?
Because of the cap implications they are going to have to make a decision on Julius before the trade deadline. In theory Julius could be the guy that checks all of those boxes, but if January roles around and he isn't fitting in or isn't buying in to what his role should be, then you look to move him. If they sign him to an extension early August, then they can still move him at the deadline as 6 months will have gone by.
Ideally they are able to find the right trade this summer, involving Julius or not, but it's not like they are totally screwed if they have to go into this season with the same core that went 12-1 with OG, Julius, and Brunson in the lineup together. They will definitely have to get more creative, but there are still ways to maneuver.
Either way though i trust the front office so if they dont make a deal i am not going to kill them, cant blame them for thinking this team healthy can do some damage
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ESPN’s Chris Herring says the Memphis Grizzlies should trade for Mitchell Robinson in his recent article, “10 Blockbuster Deals That Need to Happen This Offseason.”
“Memphis would almost certainly have to send out the same amount of salary -- possibly someone like sharpshooter Luke Kennard -- in order to make the deal work”
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ESPN’s Chris Herring says the Memphis Grizzlies should trade for Mitchell Robinson in his recent article, “10 Blockbuster Deals That Need to Happen This Offseason.”
“Memphis would almost certainly have to send out the same amount of salary -- possibly someone like sharpshooter Luke Kennard -- in order to make the deal work”
Wtihout knowing Kennard's contract details, I like the idea. Kennard is a sharpshooter and can replace Bojan's production (again, IDK his contract) and as much as we like Mitch and his defensive presence, he simply can't stay healthy. Cut bait.
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ESPN’s Chris Herring says the Memphis Grizzlies should trade for Mitchell Robinson in his recent article, “10 Blockbuster Deals That Need to Happen This Offseason.”
“Memphis would almost certainly have to send out the same amount of salary -- possibly someone like sharpshooter Luke Kennard -- in order to make the deal work”
Wtihout knowing Kennard's contract details, I like the idea. Kennard is a sharpshooter and can replace Bojan's production (again, IDK his contract) and as much as we like Mitch and his defensive presence, he simply can't stay healthy. Cut bait.
Kennard has 1 year remaining and then is a UFA.
True, but I want us to re-sign iHart. I'd rather have Claxton, but I think Hartenstein is more realistic.
I get there are warts in his game but they don't offset what Randle does so well. When he's cooking, he can carry an offense and he offers a physical matchup that is trouble for some lineups. He rebounds and can put pressure on the defense. And he can make people pay behind the arc and at the line. The Knicks can try to get someone better but they won't be easy to find and acquire.
I get there are warts in his game but they don't offset what Randle does so well. When he's cooking, he can carry an offense and he offers a physical matchup that is trouble for some lineups. He rebounds and can put pressure on the defense. And he can make people pay behind the arc and at the line. The Knicks can try to get someone better but they won't be easy to find and acquire.
I dont think anyone is arguing that Randle is a good player or that hr could kf been used to beat the Pacers...
The question is can you win a championship with Randle extended making 45 million and he is their 2nd best player
If you think the knicks win those crazy late games with Randle on the floor instead of Hart, I don't know what to tell you.
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Markkanen and Kessler(plus filler)
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Markkanen and Kessler(plus filler)
I suspect Utah would pass very, very hard on that one. Markkannen will be 27 for the entire 2025 season, Julius will be 30 coming off major shoulder surgery. Kessler finished 3rd in ROY in 2023, followed it up with 8 and 8 this season with 2.4 blocks, 18.0 PER/.131 WS/48... and this is Danny Ainge we are talking about
However, yeah, Ainge doesn't make fair trades and doesn't work with the knicks either.
at tbe rsngers gsme
- Said rockets never offered all the Nets picks back to them for Bridges as previously reported but Marci who really is quite bad at this never asked if the Knicks were going to make a play
- mentioned that Kal’el Ware is a CAA guy (I really like Ware personally)
- thinks the Knicks are the floor for Ryan Dunn (I also like him a lot as OG backup)
Dunn, Ware, Collier, Missi, George, Furphy.
They’ll have some interesting choices of guys to let sit and develop.
I doubt they make all three picks still but a lot of interesting guys.
I’m also going to keep stumping for Ajay Mitchell for as long as I can
Does anyone know if the Mavs pick falls if they win the title?
Dunn, Ware, Collier, Missi, George, Furphy.
They’ll have some interesting choices of guys to let sit and develop.
I doubt they make all three picks still but a lot of interesting guys.
I’m also going to keep stumping for Ajay Mitchell for as long as I can
Does anyone know if the Mavs pick falls if they win the title?
The Mavs pick is locked in
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And have two picks in the range where the value of the draft will land which is that mid to late first range.
Dunn, Ware, Collier, Missi, George, Furphy.
They’ll have some interesting choices of guys to let sit and develop.
I doubt they make all three picks still but a lot of interesting guys.
I’m also going to keep stumping for Ajay Mitchell for as long as I can
Does anyone know if the Mavs pick falls if they win the title?
The Mavs pick is locked in
Sweet, thank you. Wasn’t sure if it drops to 30 like in the NFL
Yeah if they don't use one or both picks in a trade for a star it makes total sense to package them to move up into the 15-20 range to get one player they really like. They probably don't want 2 rookies any way and they have that high 2nd rounder even if they do.
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The Knicks will be limited to offering their center a four-year, $72.5 million deal because of his early Bird rights. Any interested rival team will have the ability to double that amount — as much as $151.6 million over the same four-year length. There’s little expectation he’ll draw such a significant number, but league executives and cap strategists are projecting Hartenstein will be able to draw at least $80 million, and perhaps upward of $100 million, from a team hoping to steal Hartenstein from Madison Square Garden.
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Starting to get a little strange that 99% of people think OG and iHart are returning and Fischer, a known Philly guy, publishes back to back articles hypothesizing based on loose “sources” that they could leave.
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The Knicks will be limited to offering their center a four-year, $72.5 million deal because of his early Bird rights. Any interested rival team will have the ability to double that amount — as much as $151.6 million over the same four-year length. There’s little expectation he’ll draw such a significant number, but league executives and cap strategists are projecting Hartenstein will be able to draw at least $80 million, and perhaps upward of $100 million, from a team hoping to steal Hartenstein from Madison Square Garden.
Fischer - ( New Window )
Starting to get a little strange that 99% of people think OG and iHart are returning and Fischer, a known Philly guy, publishes back to back articles hypothesizing based on loose “sources” that they could leave.
He admitted his sources on OG were from other teams telling him, hmm i wonder who 1 of those teams were, none of his sources were from CAA or OG...
I am betting the same with this..
He even said he expects OG to sign with Knicks
Also said he thinks the Suns will quietly discuss KD with teams
Also said he thinks the Suns will quietly discuss KD with teams
I want all the old guys (LeBron, CP3, Durant, Harden, etc.) to try and end up on the same team and make a go of it.
Yep, I asked him that specifically. He’s anticipating a Cade trade request at some point in the future.
The turnovers are a real problem but if he's your secondary ball handler I think there is something there. Still only 22.
Probably would require quite a few picks but he just dropped a pretty decently efficient 22-7.5-4.5 on a bad Pistons team.
Hell no. He's the epitome of 'Good stats, bad team' dude.
I dont either and i wanted Lavine badly a couple of yesrs ago
+1
You have a starting 5 of Brunson-Caruso-OG-Randle-iHart with basically two all first team defense players who are also knock down shooters and two top tier scorers with Isaiah contributing on both ends.
Bench of Deuce-DVo-Hart-Bogie-Precious
Probably need to add a backup big (I like Goga for cheap personally)
But yeah that's a scary team.
You have a starting 5 of Brunson-Caruso-OG-Randle-iHart with basically two all first team defense players who are also knock down shooters and two top tier scorers with Isaiah contributing on both ends.
Bench of Deuce-DVo-Hart-Bogie-Precious
Probably need to add a backup big (I like Goga for cheap personally)
But yeah that's a scary team.
Not bad.
Giving up Mitch and leaving us completely bare at the 5 is a bad idea.
Giving up Mitch and leaving us completely bare at the 5 is a bad idea.
The jump on defense from Dante to Caruso is greater than the drop on offense imo. Caruso not only shot 41% from 3 on 5 attempts but also can run some point. Hes a good and smart offensive player and is just again all world defensively.
I disagree that they can’t play together. Love having both of them on the team and you can mix and match. Caruso played some 4 last year for the Bulls. Brunson-Donte-Caruso-OG-Randle death lineup? Oh baby.
I’m not quite sure what to do with Mitch. He’s a bad fit next to Randle. He can’t stay healthy. When he’s dominant he’s dominant but I’m not super interested in paying a backup 5 who can’t space the floor 14 mil for maybe 60 games a year and who knows what in the playoffs.
The Bulls are losing Drummond and were playing Vuc at the 4 to finish the season so I could see them having interest. They get younger and have Mitch for two years as opposed to Caruso for one.
I am not knocking Caruso. I think he's a really good player and a good fit as a Donte type of guy, but I'll take the younger guy that has room to grow and is improving his game.
Again though, the chemistry between Brunson, DiVincenzo and Hart was so important to our success.