So I am concerned about how the majority of our team seems to be made out of 100% grade A+ porcelain.
However, that being said, I think we are in great position to contend for a championship next year. I would not engage in any of these wild trade theories we have heard.
Next year I see our roster as largely set.
We have Brunson at the 1 and Divo at the 2. I am largely on the fence with OG, but I would resign him and start him at the 3. Then we have the walking bad attitude/All pro Randle at the 4.
So here is where the question marks begin. I would do everything possible to resign Hartenstein, but I'm going to just assume we fail for the sake of preparing for the worst case scenario. So, the Knicks have two first round picks, and a second.
Now, I know nothing about NBA free agency, but people around here keep insisting expiring contracts have value. I'm not convinced by what I have seen out of the Knicks, but if so, then take advantage of the expiring contract of Bogs and get a backup at either PG, SF, C or finally PF. Then use your first 1st round pick on whichever position you did not address yet starting at backup SF, then C, then PG. Use your second first round pick on a backup PG, or a C, or a SF. Then you have your second round pick to use on a C or a PF. I don't know. Maybe I am overly exuberant, but I think our future is ROSES!
Oh, and if the fans here are full of it and Bogs expiring contract has no value, then I would resign him to a reasonable contract and then instead of looking for a backup SF in the draft, I would look for a backup SG who would prove to be an upgrade over Miles McBride.
Were on offfense we will 100% win the ship next year!
And right now, we don't have a five. Robinson cannot be relied on. He's too injury prone. iHart is a FA and Sims just sucks.
We also need a lethal shooter, preferably one who can create his own shot.
Please stop.... I have no laughs available in my soul right now Knicks related.
And right now, we don't have a five. Robinson cannot be relied on. He's too injury prone. iHart is a FA and Sims just sucks.
We also need a lethal shooter, preferably one who can create his own shot.
I agree, but we have two middling first round picks. Don't quote me, but I believe they are something like #19 and #21? They are both very close together even if I am slightly off.
This regime drafts well enough that I am confident in an early 20's draft pick coming in and playing well enough at backup PG.
As for Robinson. I disagree 100%. I think he would be among the best backup centers in the league if Hartenstein returns, and we can mange with him as a slight minus starter and a rookie upgrade over Sims at the position next year if we can't resign Stein.
Per the lethal shooter. That is Devo. But we do need an upgrade over Miles on the second team shooting wise. That would be what you trade Bogs, contract for. Or, if there are biters you resign him and he is your lethal sot maker on the second unit.
And right now, we don't have a five. Robinson cannot be relied on. He's too injury prone. iHart is a FA and Sims just sucks.
We also need a lethal shooter, preferably one who can create his own shot.
Animim- we have all that your asking for - youre just a shitty sportsfan. Seriously - you suck
I'm sorry dude! I kind of feel the same way.
But on the other hand. I still have to say I think our future is bright! I'm kind of excited for next year!
Yeah, I'm excited about him. The question is will he come over to backup JB knowing he'll be getting reduced minutes compared to what he'd get in Europe?
Rokas Jokubaitis to play in Summer League looking for NBA team - By Antonio Losada Mar 27, 2024, 8:00am EDT - ( New Window )
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About rokas. He’s a really good prospect and is ready to come over. He will be a rotation piece and maybe more down the line
Yeah, I'm excited about him. The question is will he come over to backup JB knowing he'll be getting reduced minutes compared to what he'd get in Europe?
Rokas Jokubaitis to play in Summer League looking for NBA team - By Antonio Losada Mar 27, 2024, 8:00am EDT - ( New Window )
We do we keep on mentioning the scrub Jokubaitis' name in this thread? From your own link:
This season, Joku has appeared in 28 EuroLeague games for Barcelona starting two of them and averaging 5.7 points, 1.8 rebounds, 3.2 assists, and 0.3 steals per game. He’s logging nearly 17 minutes per game while shooting 50% inside the arc, 30.8% from 3-point range, and 66.7% from the charity stripe.
5.7 points per game? That's getting near the unmemorable Kendrick Perkins level career numbers (Was shocked to learn he ever played. Have no memory of him). Except Perk put up those numbers up against competition better than American junior high school talent....
I am happy for Burks. He was hurt earlier in the year. He must have healed up, because he was playing like the guy we traded for.
There is no guarantee another superstar meshes with this team. And, for all the talk about Thibs, this team seems to love him. So, like him or not, he seems to be the best coach for THIS TEAM right now. It's more important to bring in someone who will buy into what this team is about than anything else.
Beyind the number 2 star that we will debate all offseason, the Knicks need a backup point, i wouldnt be shocked if its Chris Paul, unless he goes to LA..
I dont want Hartenstein back, i am not paying him 16 million, he was dissapointing this post season, i dont think 16 million locked up to him and 14 to Mitch is smart business, i am fine with Mitch coming back as the backup big..
Find a big who can do defensivley what Thibs likes but also can shoot the ball, a shooter st the 5 for this team with Brunson would be absolutely deadly..
Beyind the number 2 star that we will debate all offseason, the Knicks need a backup point, i wouldnt be shocked if its Chris Paul, unless he goes to LA..
I dont want Hartenstein back, i am not paying him 16 million, he was dissapointing this post season, i dont think 16 million locked up to him and 14 to Mitch is smart business, i am fine with Mitch coming back as the backup big..
Find a big who can do defensivley what Thibs likes but also can shoot the ball, a shooter st the 5 for this team with Brunson would be absolutely deadly..
I agree that's the ideal fit, I just don't know where we get that guy with zero cap space. I'd rather bring back iHart and trade Mitch. Mitch is the better defensive player but he's just never healthy.
tell me you dont watch the knicks without telling me you dont watch the Knicks
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Just trade him while he still has some value. The first time he holds the ball for 15 seconds and forces a spinning turn around the garden will go nuts. It will also be terrible for team morale. This is unquestionably Brunson’s team and he has special chemistry with the other nova guys. Randle doesn’t fit.
tell me you dont watch the knicks without telling me you dont watch the Knicks
As much as he is a dbag and I hate him. If only things werent the way they were I would love to se what this team would look like if we made a move for Durant
Brunson Divo OG Durant Mitch or Ihart
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Just trade him while he still has some value. The first time he holds the ball for 15 seconds and forces a spinning turn around the garden will go nuts. It will also be terrible for team morale. This is unquestionably Brunson’s team and he has special chemistry with the other nova guys. Randle doesn’t fit.
Did you watch this season before he got hurt? He already altered his game to fit and shot a bit less.
Agreed. As long as Randle is not sulking and starting fights with his own teammates, then I am fine with keeping him. Who are we going to trade him for? He has more value for us than any other team I can imagine. He is an all pro in our system. Whatever we get back from a trade of him is not going to return equal value. We should just roll it back with him and maybe pay for a good in season therapist to work with him....
The issue with Randle is not fit where this team with him, if they decide to keep him and go into the season with that Janurary squad, then thats fine..
The issue with Randle is he has 1 year left on his deal and is up for an extension, i dont know if i would gice him 50 a year
As a UCONN fan, if Knicks need a backup PG, Tristen Newton would be a great fit to this team. Completely selfless player, has a very nice outside shot, plays excellent defense, distributes the ball great and is a back to back NCAA Tourney MVP. He knows how to win and would be a much better guard to come in and spell Brunson throughout the year. Will be interesting to see who they can bring back, but OG should certainly take priority over IHart. Hopefully next year they don’t lose so many keys players to injury, sky is the limit if they are fully healthy.
Are you already hearing some offseason rumblings?
Didn't he sign an extension a month or two ago?
I think most likely:
Mitch, Deuce, Randle, Ihart(even though i dont want him back, i think team does)
50/50:
Bojan, Precious
I think the most likelies changes if a star asls out to NY
I think most likely:
Mitch, Deuce, Randle, Ihart(even though i dont want him back, i think team does)
50/50:
Bojan, Precious
I think the most likelies changes if a star asls out to NY
I think the best move is to get Caruso and bring back Burks
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Brunson, Divo, Hart, OG..
I think most likely:
Mitch, Deuce, Randle, Ihart(even though i dont want him back, i think team does)
50/50:
Bojan, Precious
I think the most likelies changes if a star asls out to NY
I think the best move is to get Caruso and bring back Burks
I am completely fine gettinf Caruso and running with this team healthy..
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you can send them Bkjans expirong a couple of drsft picks for Caruso and dosunmo or Patrick williams as cap filler..
Next year is going to be tough getting back to this point. Bucks will likely be healthier. Sixers will be in the mix. Obviously Boston. Indiana & Orlando will be good. We'll see what Cleveland does.
The Knicks are in their window NOW. I trust Rose to make shrewd moves and bring him this team to a floor of the ECF, but it won't be easy.
They need to get out of the 2nd round next year. Anything less would be a major failure.
Next year is going to be tough getting back to this point. Bucks will likely be healthier. Sixers will be in the mix. Obviously Boston. Indiana & Orlando will be good. We'll see what Cleveland does.
The Knicks are in their window NOW. I trust Rose to make shrewd moves and bring him this team to a floor of the ECF, but it won't be easy.
They need to get out of the 2nd round next year. Anything less would be a major failure.
Bucks are on their last legs, i wouldnt be ahocked if that team stsrts to really fall off even with Giannis...They are an old team with Lopez and Middleton...I wouldnt be surprised if Lillard is traded..
Pacers need a scorer and honestly even after this series i am not worried about them, they would of been a first round exit if the Bucks were healthy abd swept if the Knicks were healthy..
Orlando is up and coming but they have a lot of holes, need shooting another elite scorer, they have a very good piece in Banchero but need more..
Yeah
Yeah of course, this team healthy would of won 60 games and probably sweeps this Pacers team..
I mean you could of had Randle on siakim and lrt OG harrass Haliburton with Divo off ball..
You then would have Hart, Deuce coming in off the bench with Bojan and Mitch
Thats the group I would build around and keep adding players who fit that identity and fill the weaknesses
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Would you agree the Knicks need to go further in the playoffs next year?
Yeah of course, this team healthy would of won 60 games and probably sweeps this Pacers team..
I mean you could of had Randle on siakim and lrt OG harrass Haliburton with Divo off ball..
You then would have Hart, Deuce coming in off the bench with Bojan and Mitch
Yep. Randle getting hurt against Miami was such a killer. Remember that when he's frustrating everyone in November.
You go into this offseason with Brunson, Divl, Hart and OG as your core 4, any move you make is with them in mind and how everything fits.
The last thing whoever is added to this team, regardless of talent level, they better embrace this culture, if they cant they are goingnto be chewed up and spit out
to me iHart is the stopgap you keep until something better comes along. I'm fine with moving on from Mitch. Even if he was a durable player, he's seemingly regresses offensively.