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NFT: Knicks next year

NYDCBlue : 5/19/2024 6:12 pm
So I am concerned about how the majority of our team seems to be made out of 100% grade A+ porcelain.

However, that being said, I think we are in great position to contend for a championship next year. I would not engage in any of these wild trade theories we have heard.

Next year I see our roster as largely set.
We have Brunson at the 1 and Divo at the 2. I am largely on the fence with OG, but I would resign him and start him at the 3. Then we have the walking bad attitude/All pro Randle at the 4.

So here is where the question marks begin. I would do everything possible to resign Hartenstein, but I'm going to just assume we fail for the sake of preparing for the worst case scenario. So, the Knicks have two first round picks, and a second.

Now, I know nothing about NBA free agency, but people around here keep insisting expiring contracts have value. I'm not convinced by what I have seen out of the Knicks, but if so, then take advantage of the expiring contract of Bogs and get a backup at either PG, SF, C or finally PF. Then use your first 1st round pick on whichever position you did not address yet starting at backup SF, then C, then PG. Use your second first round pick on a backup PG, or a C, or a SF. Then you have your second round pick to use on a C or a PF. I don't know. Maybe I am overly exuberant, but I think our future is ROSES!

Oh, and if the fans here are full of it and Bogs expiring contract has no value, then I would resign him to a reasonable contract and then instead of looking for a backup SF in the draft, I would look for a backup SG who would prove to be an upgrade over Miles McBride.
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I question if OKC really wants  
Enzo : 5/31/2024 3:55 pm : link
to tie up $100 million or so for a good but not great center in iHart. They have a couple of years before the roster gets really expensive and they have to pay Chet and Williams. But if they start paying other guys they're quickly in tax territory which I'm assuming OKC wants to avoid like the plague.
RE: Begely made the prediction  
Enzo : 5/31/2024 3:58 pm : link
In comment 16528406 nygiants16 said:
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that Brunson will sign an extension and that Julius Randle will not..

Also said he thinks the Suns will quietly discuss KD with teams

I want all the old guys (LeBron, CP3, Durant, Harden, etc.) to try and end up on the same team and make a go of it.
Pistons part ways with Troy Weaver  
nygiants16 : 5/31/2024 4:33 pm : link
AJ was saying if he leaves guys from the Pistons may come available right?
RE: Pistons part ways with Troy Weaver  
bceagle05 : 5/31/2024 5:00 pm : link
In comment 16528421 nygiants16 said:
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AJ was saying if he leaves guys from the Pistons may come available right?

Yep, I asked him that specifically. He’s anticipating a Cade trade request at some point in the future.
Oooh  
Jon In NYC : 5/31/2024 5:05 pm : link
I don't hate Cade on this team actually.

The turnovers are a real problem but if he's your secondary ball handler I think there is something there. Still only 22.

Probably would require quite a few picks but he just dropped a pretty decently efficient 22-7.5-4.5 on a bad Pistons team.
I love Cade’s game.  
bceagle05 : 5/31/2024 7:37 pm : link
Desperately in need of a change of scenery. I think some of his “injuries” are just blatant tanking too. They’re really screwed his development in my opinion.
Zach Lavine apparently is so available  
nygiants16 : 5/31/2024 8:09 pm : link
they are willing to just do a salary dump
I don’t think  
Jon In NYC : 5/31/2024 8:12 pm : link
Levine is better than DiVencenzo at this point
RE: Zach Lavine apparently is so available  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/31/2024 8:14 pm : link
In comment 16528507 nygiants16 said:
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they are willing to just do a salary dump


Hell no. He's the epitome of 'Good stats, bad team' dude.
RE: Zach Lavine apparently is so available  
Stu11 : 5/31/2024 8:33 pm : link
In comment 16528507 nygiants16 said:
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they are willing to just do a salary dump
sauerkraut is more durable than that guy's knee ligaments. Hard pass.
RE: I don’t think  
nygiants16 : 5/31/2024 8:49 pm : link
In comment 16528508 Jon In NYC said:
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Levine is better than DiVencenzo at this point


I dont either and i wanted Lavine badly a couple of yesrs ago
DDV is a good two way player. They're hard to find. When you have  
Ira : 5/31/2024 8:55 pm : link
one, hold on to him.
Why  
Jon In NYC : 5/31/2024 9:42 pm : link
wouldn't the Knicks make a play for Brandon Ingram? Buy low and play him as a big 2 and secondary creator. Budget Paul George but 8 years younger
RE: I love Cade’s game.  
bluefin : 6/1/2024 5:51 am : link
In comment 16528494 bceagle05 said:
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Desperately in need of a change of scenery. I think some of his “injuries” are just blatant tanking too. They’re really screwed his development in my opinion.

+1
I know I'm all over the place,  
Jon In NYC : 6/1/2024 3:00 pm : link
but I'm circling back to the Caruso idea and kinda love it? Does Mitch straight up get it done? Mitch and a pick?

You have a starting 5 of Brunson-Caruso-OG-Randle-iHart with basically two all first team defense players who are also knock down shooters and two top tier scorers with Isaiah contributing on both ends.

Bench of Deuce-DVo-Hart-Bogie-Precious

Probably need to add a backup big (I like Goga for cheap personally)

But yeah that's a scary team.
RE: I know I'm all over the place,  
Optimus-NY : 6/1/2024 3:08 pm : link
In comment 16528778 Jon In NYC said:
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but I'm circling back to the Caruso idea and kinda love it? Does Mitch straight up get it done? Mitch and a pick?

You have a starting 5 of Brunson-Caruso-OG-Randle-iHart with basically two all first team defense players who are also knock down shooters and two top tier scorers with Isaiah contributing on both ends.

Bench of Deuce-DVo-Hart-Bogie-Precious

Probably need to add a backup big (I like Goga for cheap personally)

But yeah that's a scary team.


Not bad.
Hate it.  
Kmed6000 : 6/1/2024 3:59 pm : link
Why would be move Donte out of the starting lineup and clog up minutes late in games. You probably can't play both of them at the same time. The chemistry with these guys is outrageously good and Divincenzo took the next step in his game this year. 18ppg while shooting 42% from 3 in the playoffs.

Giving up Mitch and leaving us completely bare at the 5 is a bad idea.
RE: Hate it.  
Jon In NYC : 6/1/2024 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16528795 Kmed6000 said:
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Why would be move Donte out of the starting lineup and clog up minutes late in games. You probably can't play both of them at the same time. The chemistry with these guys is outrageously good and Divincenzo took the next step in his game this year. 18ppg while shooting 42% from 3 in the playoffs.

Giving up Mitch and leaving us completely bare at the 5 is a bad idea.


The jump on defense from Dante to Caruso is greater than the drop on offense imo. Caruso not only shot 41% from 3 on 5 attempts but also can run some point. Hes a good and smart offensive player and is just again all world defensively.

I disagree that they can’t play together. Love having both of them on the team and you can mix and match. Caruso played some 4 last year for the Bulls. Brunson-Donte-Caruso-OG-Randle death lineup? Oh baby.

I’m not quite sure what to do with Mitch. He’s a bad fit next to Randle. He can’t stay healthy. When he’s dominant he’s dominant but I’m not super interested in paying a backup 5 who can’t space the floor 14 mil for maybe 60 games a year and who knows what in the playoffs.

The Bulls are losing Drummond and were playing Vuc at the 4 to finish the season so I could see them having interest. They get younger and have Mitch for two years as opposed to Caruso for one.
So Hart is the odd man out.  
Kmed6000 : 6/1/2024 4:20 pm : link
Hart proved to be vital in late game situations. I just don't think the Knicks should be trading size for a guy that clogs up the guard positions. I'm not moving Donte to the bench unless its a big upgrade.

I am not knocking Caruso. I think he's a really good player and a good fit as a Donte type of guy, but I'll take the younger guy that has room to grow and is improving his game.

Again though, the chemistry between Brunson, DiVincenzo and Hart was so important to our success.
I think Hart is always the odd man out.  
Jon In NYC : 6/1/2024 5:21 pm : link
He’s behind OG and Julius and just ahead of Bogie in the rotation. Hes looking at probably 26 mpg Caruso or no
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