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QB Tommy DeVito still has a chip on his shoulder

GFAN52 : 5/20/2024 8:59 am
The Giants signed quarterback Drew Lock to a one-year deal that guarantees him $5 million this offseason. They also attempted to trade up in the draft to target who most believe was quarterback Drake Maye, according to multiple sources. They even recently claimed quarterback Nathan Rourke off waivers from the New England Patriots.

It has DeVito, 25, back at square one, even if he threw for eight touchdown passes and just three interceptions in nine games.

"Yeah, we're not having this conversation for sure [if I was a third-round pick]. But at the end of the day, like I said, control what you can control, keep the chip on my shoulder, keep working," DeVito said. "Everyone has always been overlooked and it's kind of the same deal I was in last year. I know the offense now and I've been in some situations before. Looking forward to doing it again."
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Rooting for him hard  
Lambuth_Special : 5/20/2024 9:06 am : link
Prior to the draft, I had the same negative reaction to anyone bringing him up as an option. Now, he probably has the highest upside of any QB on the roster, which isn't saying much, but we shouldn't count him out.

His advanced numbers last year weren't good, but he was also a rookie FA thrust into a tough situation, and his conventional numbers were basically unprecedented from someone with his background. I also really liked the way he managed his two games at home, keeping things clean and hitting the big-time throws when he needed to.

A grand majority of QBs improve in year 2, why not him?
He's is fighting for QB #3 right now  
ZogZerg : 5/20/2024 9:09 am : link
Whatever he needs to do to help himself out, he should do.
I don't have the reaction as I'm sure most will on this  
Sean : 5/20/2024 9:13 am : link
There is a chip on your shoulder and then there is someone that is talking too much. He took advantage of his 15 minutes last year and branded himself well. He did have a big opportunity and ultimately was benched after the Saints game and a bad first half against the Eagles. And he's upset?

Go out and outplay Jones & Lock.
You could tell in the preseason last year that TD has the ability  
Rjanyg : 5/20/2024 9:20 am : link
The ball had zip and came out on time and he had the sense of when to pull the ball and run.

He is ultra-competitive as well which is very good for the QB room. He will push the others.
More click bait.  
section125 : 5/20/2024 9:21 am : link
I would hope he has some moxie and an "attitude" about it. So I hope he ups his game and puts pressure on the staff to find him a spot.
DeVito  
Lambuth_Special : 5/20/2024 9:27 am : link
Turning into even an average QB would be a godsend.

With his cost, that's an actual QB you could build a great roster around.
It’s a nice story  
Rudy5757 : 5/20/2024 9:48 am : link
But I think all the talk and gimmicks may now be costing him his opportunity. I believe they brought in Rourke to displace him. If Jones gets off to another bad start he may be more of a headache than a help.

It was a great story in a lost season. I like the kid, I think he has the ability to be a decent backup. I think with all the controversy surrounding Jones they may just want him off the roster to avoid the talk of a 3rd or 4th string player.
RE: I don't have the reaction as I'm sure most will on this  
Section331 : 5/20/2024 9:54 am : link
In comment 16520220 Sean said:
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There is a chip on your shoulder and then there is someone that is talking too much. He took advantage of his 15 minutes last year and branded himself well. He did have a big opportunity and ultimately was benched after the Saints game and a bad first half against the Eagles. And he's upset?

Go out and outplay Jones & Lock.


I kind of agree with this. I didn't begrudge DeVito trying to cash in on his 15 mins, but stooping to meet & greets at pizzerias was a bad look.

That said, he's not wrong in his comment about if he had been drafted. I think team brass would have included him more in their season planning had he been a draft pick and played as well as he did. He'll get his chance this summer.
A nice story.....10 Seconds of fame....not much more  
George from PA : 5/20/2024 9:54 am : link
The DeVitto talk about anything more....is fullish.
He's an above average  
EJNNJ : 5/20/2024 10:00 am : link
#3 QB, possibly push into a #2 role in '25 if Lock takes over in '25 and we don't draft a QB.

It's a paying gig if he can stick :)
he sucks  
ElitoCanton : 5/20/2024 10:06 am : link
he has limited talent. And when he got his chance, he focused more on endorsements than football and lost his starting job from poor play.
I'd rather watch DeVito play  
Chris684 : 5/20/2024 10:11 am : link
than Jones or Lock. That is more an indictment of the latter than it is an endorsement of TD.

But this is the QB room Schoen and Dabes have left us with.
I'm sure his mom will take care of it when she does his laundry  
rsjem1979 : 5/20/2024 10:12 am : link
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Do you really think that when the Giants cut him, which is coming,  
PatersonPlank : 5/20/2024 10:23 am : link
that any other team will pick him up. Talent-wise he is no different than lots and lots of guys, he just got lucky in the Giants situation. I don't see him as an NFL QB, maybe try the XFL (or whatever its called)
I see  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/20/2024 10:30 am : link
no reason why DeVito should not be part of the conversation.
He's delusional...  
Milton : 5/20/2024 10:37 am : link
...if he thinks he played well enough last year to be considered the team's QB of the future. Of course they were gonna bring in someone like Lock. Of course they would be looking at QBs in the top ten of the draft when they're sitting at #6. Of course they needed to bring in a 4th QB like Sergeant O'Rourke (especially with Jones still not cleared to practice). Instead of feeling overlooked, he should look at the fact that they bypassed the likes of Rattler and others on Day 3 as an endorsement.

He could've been completely shut out by their offseason moves, instead he sits at #3 on the depth chart. All things considered, he should consider himself lucky. He is one injury away from being the primary backup.
Eveyrone in the NFL  
David B. : 5/20/2024 10:39 am : link
has a chip on their shoulder over something.
RE: Do you really think that when the Giants cut him, which is coming,  
Section331 : 5/20/2024 10:40 am : link
In comment 16520290 PatersonPlank said:
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that any other team will pick him up. Talent-wise he is no different than lots and lots of guys, he just got lucky in the Giants situation. I don't see him as an NFL QB, maybe try the XFL (or whatever its called)


I don't want to overstate DeVito's chances, but he has shown he can win games in this league, that is different than lots of guys. He was an undrafted rookie who got very few practice reps, why are we so sure he can't get better?

Daboll was impressed with how DeVito recognized coverages and pressure packages on the field, often coming off the field to tell coaches he saw exactly what they were seeing. That is unusual for any rookie QB, but especially so for a guy with so few practice reps.

Personally, I see his ceiling as a backup QB, but there's nothing wrong with that. Teams need good backups, and maybe he develops into something more. Crazier things have happened.
RE: I'd rather watch DeVito play  
EJNNJ : 5/20/2024 10:41 am : link
In comment 16520277 Chris684 said:
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than Jones or Lock. That is more an indictment of the latter than it is an endorsement of TD.

But this is the QB room Schoen and Dabes have left us with.


People are sleeping on Lock, he's got a pretty good chance to steel the job from DJ and won't be restricted in the preseason like DJ...
A Little Harsh Here  
Lambuth_Special : 5/20/2024 10:41 am : link
He lost his job after looking below par - but not awful - against a good Saints defense in a tough environment in which the Giants running game and blocking was blown up the entire contest and in which the Giants defense couldn't get off the field.

He then had to play at Philly in a nationally televised game.

He wasn't ready for that pressure. He was also a rookie FA starting at QB. Historically, these guys barely last a quarter before looking completely overwhelmed. He threw 8 touchdowns and played efficiently at home.

Do I think he's any kind of answer? No, but I'm surprised at the hostility.
RE: He's delusional...  
Section331 : 5/20/2024 10:44 am : link
In comment 16520305 Milton said:
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...if he thinks he played well enough last year to be considered the team's QB of the future. Of course they were gonna bring in someone like Lock. Of course they would be looking at QBs in the top ten of the draft when they're sitting at #6. Of course they needed to bring in a 4th QB like Sergeant O'Rourke (especially with Jones still not cleared to practice). Instead of feeling overlooked, he should look at the fact that they bypassed the likes of Rattler and others on Day 3 as an endorsement.

He could've been completely shut out by their offseason moves, instead he sits at #3 on the depth chart. All things considered, he should consider himself lucky. He is one injury away from being the primary backup.


He never said he should be considered the QB of the future, simply that had he been a draft pick, he would be in more of the conversation. He's not wrong. If he had been a 3rd rd pick and played like he did, Giants brass would be talking about giving him more reps, and BBI would be proclaiming him the next franchise QB.

I think he sees the situation pretty clearly; he'll get his shot, and he has to make the most of it when it comes. I don't know why anyone would have a problem with anything he said.
RE: A Little Harsh Here  
eric2425ny : 5/20/2024 10:55 am : link
In comment 16520311 Lambuth_Special said:
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He lost his job after looking below par - but not awful - against a good Saints defense in a tough environment in which the Giants running game and blocking was blown up the entire contest and in which the Giants defense couldn't get off the field.

He then had to play at Philly in a nationally televised game.

He wasn't ready for that pressure. He was also a rookie FA starting at QB. Historically, these guys barely last a quarter before looking completely overwhelmed. He threw 8 touchdowns and played efficiently at home.

Do I think he's any kind of answer? No, but I'm surprised at the hostility.


The criticism of DeVito is strange on here. You would think he was Jones in his 5th season the way people talk. He was a rookie, it’s not even about being a first round pick or being undrafted. Rookies QB’s typically struggle to get adjusted to the speed of the game. I thought DeVito looked better than your average rookie last year. There were no Nathan Peterman 5 pick games or disasters of that nature.
RE: RE: Do you really think that when the Giants cut him, which is coming,  
eric2425ny : 5/20/2024 10:58 am : link
In comment 16520309 Section331 said:
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In comment 16520290 PatersonPlank said:


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that any other team will pick him up. Talent-wise he is no different than lots and lots of guys, he just got lucky in the Giants situation. I don't see him as an NFL QB, maybe try the XFL (or whatever its called)



I don't want to overstate DeVito's chances, but he has shown he can win games in this league, that is different than lots of guys. He was an undrafted rookie who got very few practice reps, why are we so sure he can't get better?

Daboll was impressed with how DeVito recognized coverages and pressure packages on the field, often coming off the field to tell coaches he saw exactly what they were seeing. That is unusual for any rookie QB, but especially so for a guy with so few practice reps.

Personally, I see his ceiling as a backup QB, but there's nothing wrong with that. Teams need good backups, and maybe he develops into something more. Crazier things have happened.


I’m with you Section331, I feel like we have something with this guy, even if it’s just the primary backup in the end. I honestly felt more comfortable watching the game with DeVito in there than Jones.
2-3 years trying to break in  
Blueworm : 5/20/2024 11:07 am : link
2-3 years trying to hang on

That's an NFL career.

Add another 2-3 years fending off young challengers, and it's a great career.
RE: RE: A Little Harsh Here  
Chris in Philly : 5/20/2024 11:24 am : link
In comment 16520318 eric2425ny said:
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He lost his job after looking below par - but not awful - against a good Saints defense in a tough environment in which the Giants running game and blocking was blown up the entire contest and in which the Giants defense couldn't get off the field.

He then had to play at Philly in a nationally televised game.

He wasn't ready for that pressure. He was also a rookie FA starting at QB. Historically, these guys barely last a quarter before looking completely overwhelmed. He threw 8 touchdowns and played efficiently at home.

Do I think he's any kind of answer? No, but I'm surprised at the hostility.



The criticism of DeVito is strange on here. You would think he was Jones in his 5th season the way people talk. He was a rookie, it’s not even about being a first round pick or being undrafted. Rookies QB’s typically struggle to get adjusted to the speed of the game. I thought DeVito looked better than your average rookie last year. There were no Nathan Peterman 5 pick games or disasters of that nature.


I would imagine some people are not going to get over his embarrassing off the field stuff with his dopey agent. Hopefully he canned that guy and he can focus on football.
Lock's personality  
BigBlueCane : 5/20/2024 11:40 am : link
will likely limit his time here unless that's greatly changed.


RE: Lock's personality  
Mbavaro : 5/20/2024 12:10 pm : link
In comment 16520364 BigBlueCane said:
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will likely limit his time here unless that's greatly changed.




And you are basing that on what?
Not going to argue that TD is all that, but...  
D HOS : 5/20/2024 12:21 pm : link
having young hungry motivated overachievers who aren't just happy to be here, that's good. That's great. We need an entire roster of that.
Ironically….  
thrunthrublue : 5/20/2024 12:38 pm : link
His two meaningless wins cost the giants a possible legacy qb pick.
RE: RE: RE: A Little Harsh Here  
Mike from Ohio : 5/20/2024 1:15 pm : link
In comment 16520349 Chris in Philly said:
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I would imagine some people are not going to get over his embarrassing off the field stuff with his dopey agent. Hopefully he canned that guy and he can focus on football.


This. The guy played well enough to come into camp and play for a roster spot. Unfortunately he spent a big part of his rookie season making himself into a cartoon which he now has to undo. He needs to decide if he wants to be an NFL pro or garb some fame and cash while he can. He probably can't do both.
A chip on the shoulder is nice  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/20/2024 1:31 pm : link
Talent in the shoulder is better.
Chip on the shoulder  
Giants : 5/20/2024 1:52 pm : link
Should have been taken care of by now. A QB coming into OTA with chip shoulder isn't good
It took Geno Smith 10 seasons ...  
Manny in CA : 5/20/2024 1:53 pm : link

To claw his way up to legit starter in the NFL. DeVito just walked in the door, the opponents he was able to beat were doing their best to beat him.

Elite young QB talents like Hebert, Lawrence and Joe Burrow all stumbled last year and nobody said - "he sucks". Nobody's saying De Vito is in that league, but he's good enough to play and maybe if the "cards line up", to contend for the starting position.
I'm rooting for him too.  
mittenedman : 5/20/2024 2:11 pm : link
He's got a little Tony Romo to his game. (That's his ceiling IMO.) His floor is out of the league. I'll be interested to see if he continues to improve.
We really have no idea what he's like  
CT Charlie : 5/20/2024 2:27 pm : link
as a teammate, which may be a huge factor (plus or minus) in how the coaches evaluate him.
RE: I see  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/20/2024 3:04 pm : link
In comment 16520299 Eric from BBI said:
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no reason why DeVito should not be part of the conversation.
it's anti Italian discrimination
RE: Ironically….  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/20/2024 3:07 pm : link
In comment 16520404 thrunthrublue said:
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His two meaningless wins cost the giants a possible legacy qb pick.
given the opportunity the kid tried to win that's his job as a QB. Probably could won the Jets game too if he was allowed to pass. I don't get the hate for a guy who tried his ass off?
Rourke and DeVito should…  
5BowlsSoon : 5/20/2024 3:40 pm : link
…be looked at to compete for the starting job. How could anyone say Jones or Lock deserve it and there should be no competition? Oh really? What exactly have Jones and Lock done to make anyone feel that way?
RE: RE: Ironically….  
eric2425ny : 5/20/2024 3:56 pm : link
In comment 16520530 Paulie Walnuts said:
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His two meaningless wins cost the giants a possible legacy qb pick.

given the opportunity the kid tried to win that's his job as a QB. Probably could won the Jets game too if he was allowed to pass. I don't get the hate for a guy who tried his ass off?


Totally agree Paulie. I really enjoyed watching him play last year. I remember telling my brother this guy is better than Jones during preseason. I thought he handled the press extremely well and wasn’t a big “distraction” to the team. It was nice to go to work here in Michigan the day after the GB game and people who know I’m a Giants fan were doing the finger purse. It brought some life back into the franchise.
DeVito says he knows the offense.  
gridirony : 5/20/2024 3:57 pm : link
He knew the simplified 2023 offense.

If the OL holds up, giving plays more time to develop, and it executes plays correctly, the offense might be much more complex in 2024. The question is, can any of their QBs run such an offense?

And, is the coaching staff competent in teaching the above? In the first two years of the Daboll era, there is no such indication.
DeVito says he knows the offense.  
gridirony : 5/20/2024 3:58 pm : link
He knew the simplified 2023 offense.

If the OL holds up, giving plays more time to develop, and it executes plays correctly, the offense might be much more complex in 2024. The question is, can any of their QBs run such an offense?

And, is the coaching staff competent in teaching the above? In the first two years of the Daboll era, there is no such indication.
RE: RE: He's delusional...  
Milton : 5/20/2024 4:16 pm : link
In comment 16520313 Section331 said:
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He never said he should be considered the QB of the future, simply that had he been a draft pick, he would be in more of the conversation. He's not wrong. If he had been a 3rd rd pick and played like he did, Giants brass would be talking about giving him more reps, and BBI would be proclaiming him the next franchise QB.
Nobody gives a shit about what BBI would be proclaiming, but regardless of whether he was a 3rd round pick or an undrafted free agent, the "Giants brass" wouldn't be doing anything differently. His draft status is ancient history. What matters to the coaches now is what they think of him based on last year. And I don't see why he should have a chip on his shoulder simply because the Giants signed Lock, were looking at first round quality prospects in the draft, and recently added camp fodder. He should be comforted by the fact they didn't add a rookie QB on Day 3. I would view that as a vote of confidence.

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I don't know why anyone would have a problem with anything he said.
Maybe it's just how the reporter framed it, but he comes off as annoyed by the team's offseason pursuits.
DeVito did 6 things Jones has very rarely done  
HardTruth : 5/20/2024 4:57 pm : link

- win 3 straight games, throw 3 TDs in a game, win a prime time game, beat a playoff team and deliver a walk off score for the win and Not to mention win back to back home games

DeVito was 3-3 with 7 TDs to 1 int

In his 6 starts

You can compare that very favorably to virtually any timeframe in Daniel Jones 60 starts here
RE: I see  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/20/2024 5:05 pm : link
In comment 16520299 Eric from BBI said:
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no reason why DeVito should not be part of the conversation.


The QB job should be an open competition. But I fear it won’t be so that ‘no scholarships’ talk…🙄🙄🙄.
He is right about the draft position  
Jerry in_DC : 5/20/2024 5:10 pm : link
Our sweet Daniel is a great example, but he is a bit of a hot button so let's use another one.

Bryce Young was awful last year. Granted, terrible surrounding talent, but he played bad and he looked bad. Young will probably get 3 full years of starts, 3 full years of 1st team practice reps regardless of how he played.

DeVito was not good overall, but let's just say he flashed. He had some moments. Enough that if he were a reasonably high pick, he might be in contention to get some playing time. And Cutlets did that with no first team reps until he was thrown in there.

Meanwhile DeVito may never start another game in the NFL. Back the Giants, there should be an open competition for the starting job. There isn't. And a lot of it has to do with things other than what happens on the field in the NFL.
RE: DeVito did 6 things Jones has very rarely done  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/20/2024 5:18 pm : link
In comment 16520636 HardTruth said:
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- win 3 straight games, throw 3 TDs in a game, win a prime time game, beat a playoff team and deliver a walk off score for the win and Not to mention win back to back home games

DeVito was 3-3 with 7 TDs to 1 int

In his 6 starts

You can compare that very favorably to virtually any timeframe in Daniel Jones 60 starts here




Here's another one.



DeVito won on MNF against Green Bay in 2023.

RE: RE: RE: He's delusional...  
Section331 : 5/20/2024 6:17 pm : link
In comment 16520577 Milton said:
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In comment 16520313 Section331 said:


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He never said he should be considered the QB of the future, simply that had he been a draft pick, he would be in more of the conversation. He's not wrong. If he had been a 3rd rd pick and played like he did, Giants brass would be talking about giving him more reps, and BBI would be proclaiming him the next franchise QB.

Nobody gives a shit about what BBI would be proclaiming, but regardless of whether he was a 3rd round pick or an undrafted free agent, the "Giants brass" wouldn't be doing anything differently. His draft status is ancient history. What matters to the coaches now is what they think of him based on last year. And I don't see why he should have a chip on his shoulder simply because the Giants signed Lock, were looking at first round quality prospects in the draft, and recently added camp fodder. He should be comforted by the fact they didn't add a rookie QB on Day 3. I would view that as a vote of confidence.



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I don't know why anyone would have a problem with anything he said.

Maybe it's just how the reporter framed it, but he comes off as annoyed by the team's offseason pursuits.


His draft status is ancient history? Give me a break. We’re entering year 6 of the Jones error, and his draft status is still an issue. You really d9nt think the Giants would be looking at DeVito differently if they had spent a 3rd rd pick on him? Of course they would. I’m not saying they would have him pegged as a starter, but he would have very much been in the QB discussion.
RE: I see  
SGMen : 5/20/2024 8:33 pm : link
In comment 16520299 Eric from BBI said:
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no reason why DeVito should not be part of the conversation.
Agreed. Is it inconceivable should Jones falter in any way that Devito starts game 1 over Lock even??
Odds are  
UberAlias : 5/20/2024 8:53 pm : link
there was a very good reason that he wasn't a third-round pick.
RE: I see  
JCassmen : 5/20/2024 8:55 pm : link
In comment 16520299 Eric from BBI said:
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no reason why DeVito should not be part of the conversation.


Absolutely!
Every player on the roster...  
DefenseWins : 5/20/2024 9:01 pm : link
should have a chip on his shoulder coming into camp. If they don't, then find me players who do.
He's in a conversation  
UberAlias : 5/20/2024 9:01 pm : link
With Nathan Rourke.
RE: 2-3 years trying to break in  
Eman11 : 5/21/2024 7:05 am : link
In comment 16520331 Blueworm said:
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2-3 years trying to hang on

That's an NFL career.

Add another 2-3 years fending off young challengers, and it's a great career.


Trying to hang on and fending off young challengers seems like the same thing to me, but I’d agree 4-6 years isn’t a bad NFL career for an UDFA QB.
RE: He's in a conversation  
Mike from Ohio : 5/21/2024 11:10 am : link
In comment 16520837 UberAlias said:
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With Nathan Rourke.


Agree. The separation between our #1 QB and our #4 QB has to be the slimmest in the league. This is a very shallow position where anyone of the 4 could be the best one in the group (despite the fact that there won't be any QB competition for #1).
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