Also, the next step for Volpe will be coming to the plate with a plan. Too often he seems to step in there and react rather than being proactive about what he’s looking for. Any average baseball fan could have called that the third pitch he swung and missed at was going to be a slider down and away, why didn’t he know that?
Geezus Greg, clearly a good pitch and a strike and Judge knew it. His issue is trying to pull those outside pitches. If he goes with it, he hits it to RF...
Also, the next step for Volpe will be coming to the plate with a plan. Too often he seems to step in there and react rather than being proactive about what he’s looking for. Any average baseball fan could have called that the third pitch he swung and missed at was going to be a slider down and away, why didn’t he know that?
Yeah, I am losing it with Torres. They need a 2nd baseman. Where is Peraza?
I thought that was more on Rizzo. Gleyber was charging in and throwing off balance. The hop was not particularly difficult and Rizzo whiffed, something he’s doing a lot of this year in the field
Mediocrity personified. I hate losing to that shitbag franchise
And to boot they were celebrating like they just won game 7 of the godamn world series. I was waiting for the dog pile. Geez after the kick in the nuts we got from the Knicks yesterday you'd think the Yanks could at least take care of us today.
RE: RE: RE: Holmes gave up on hard hit ball the entire inning
Yeah, I am losing it with Torres. They need a 2nd baseman. Where is Peraza?
I thought that was more on Rizzo. Gleyber was charging in and throwing off balance. The hop was not particularly difficult and Rizzo whiffed, something he’s doing a lot of this year in the field
It was a bad throw and that spin on that type of throw skips it away to the right. Like I said Rizzo three years ago maybe knocks it down. And yes Rizzo has not been as good this year.
A few days ago Holmes was the greatest closer in baseball who we had to sign . Today he's a bum who we'd better replace by the trade deadline.
As I said a few days ago, Holmes is what he is. He has a great sinker and has recently added some other pitches, but he's inconsistent, rarely has a 1-2-3 inning and often gets out of jams because the Yanks make great plays behind him and the umps have made some horrible calls in his favor. Today he ran into a hitters umpire, plus some bad luck and less than optimal fielding.
Would rather get waxed 10-1 than letting up a 4-spot in the last inning.
Sux.
Really ? If we give up 10 runs it means. 1) We will have used multiple pitchers and that going to the next day, the pen is short handed. 2) Multiple pitchers will be revealed as being ineffective. Possibly one or more are injured, possibly the one or more have been figured out by the league.
If you can't be alitte ticked after your team blows a 3 run lead in the 9th inning...when can you be mad??? Like, ever? And no one here is saying anyone should be DFA'd or fired or anything crazy like that.
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
also he walked two batters in two-thirds of an inning, which was really the fatal part. The dinks and dunks would not have lost the game absent the walks.
also he walked two batters in two-thirds of an inning, which was really the fatal part. The dinks and dunks would not have lost the game absent the walks.
Two walks? Yeesh. Knew there was one. But those were the fatal flaws.
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Are you saying that Holmes doesn't routinely pitch himself into jams? It was the same story with Holmes last season, and it got to the point that Boone started using other relievers to close out games.
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
Kind of funny that people forget that Mo had a WHIP of over 1 nine times and over 0.95 four times. That means he was averaging a guy on base in every inning he pitched. His career regular season WHIP was 1. It was in the playoffs where he was really dialed in. His career postseason WHIP was 0.75.
Then there was Chapman, who seemed to get in serious trouble every other game. I still remember him walking two guys on 9 pitches to start the 9th in a one-run game only to get bailed out by a scorched grounded to the 3rd base bag that turned into a triple play and bailed him out. And Devers taking him deep is burned in my brain too.
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Are you saying that Holmes doesn't routinely pitch himself into jams? It was the same story with Holmes last season, and it got to the point that Boone started using other relievers to close out games.
Did I say that? Show me - WTF beers?....he is the 2nd coming of John Wetteland. But 95% of the time he gets it done. Last night was just as much bad luck as anything else.
He had a 0.00 ERA coming in - pretty piss poor I'd say.
I was fearing a loss after they hit into three DP's
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
Kind of funny that people forget that Mo had a WHIP of over 1 nine times and over 0.95 four times. That means he was averaging a guy on base in every inning he pitched. His career regular season WHIP was 1. It was in the playoffs where he was really dialed in. His career postseason WHIP was 0.75.
Then there was Chapman, who seemed to get in serious trouble every other game. I still remember him walking two guys on 9 pitches to start the 9th in a one-run game only to get bailed out by a scorched grounded to the 3rd base bag that turned into a triple play and bailed him out. And Devers taking him deep is burned in my brain too.
But opponents hit:
- .154 against Chapman
- .211 against Rivera
- .241 against Holmes
Most elite closers are below .230. Holmes is certainly effective, but IMO he is not that elite guy you want in tight games.
It truly was.... That and Stanton's two GIDPs....
Calm down
Were you expecting perfection for the entire year?
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Holmes couldn't even get out of the fucking inning. Fucking putrid.
Calm down
Were you expecting perfection for the entire year?
No, but I was expecting them to win when they had a 3 run lead in the 9th.
Sorry.
Also, the next step for Volpe will be coming to the plate with a plan. Too often he seems to step in there and react rather than being proactive about what he’s looking for. Any average baseball fan could have called that the third pitch he swung and missed at was going to be a slider down and away, why didn’t he know that?
Geezus Greg, clearly a good pitch and a strike and Judge knew it. His issue is trying to pull those outside pitches. If he goes with it, he hits it to RF...
Also, the next step for Volpe will be coming to the plate with a plan. Too often he seems to step in there and react rather than being proactive about what he’s looking for. Any average baseball fan could have called that the third pitch he swung and missed at was going to be a slider down and away, why didn’t he know that?
Exactly ....
Too many DPs...too many guys thrown out stealing...too many left on base.
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Holmes couldn't even get out of the fucking inning. Fucking putrid.
Calm down
Were you expecting perfection for the entire year?
No, but I was expecting them to win when they had a 3 run lead in the 9th.
Sorry.
Take a deep breath
It happens
Yeah, I am losing it with Torres. They need a 2nd baseman. Where is Peraza?
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Holmes couldn't even get out of the fucking inning. Fucking putrid.
Calm down
Were you expecting perfection for the entire year?
No, but I was expecting them to win when they had a 3 run lead in the 9th.
Sorry.
Take a deep breath
It happens
Expecting them to be able to keep a 3 run lead in the 9th inning means you need take a deep breath?
Grow up.
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Bad luck and bad defense were the culprits
Yeah, I am losing it with Torres. They need a 2nd baseman. Where is Peraza?
I thought that was more on Rizzo. Gleyber was charging in and throwing off balance. The hop was not particularly difficult and Rizzo whiffed, something he’s doing a lot of this year in the field
Not a 50-50 ball at all. That was a real strike. Wasn't even on the "black", it was well on the corner. Judge didn't even look at the ump. He knew it.
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Holmes couldn't even get out of the fucking inning. Fucking putrid.
Calm down
Were you expecting perfection for the entire year?
No, but I was expecting them to win when they had a 3 run lead in the 9th.
Sorry.
Take a deep breath
It happens
Expecting them to be able to keep a 3 run lead in the 9th inning means you need take a deep breath?
Grow up.
I need to grow up?😁
You’re the one throwing a fit
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Holmes couldn't even get out of the fucking inning. Fucking putrid.
Calm down
Were you expecting perfection for the entire year?
No, but I was expecting them to win when they had a 3 run lead in the 9th.
Sorry.
Take a deep breath
It happens
Expecting them to be able to keep a 3 run lead in the 9th inning means you need take a deep breath?
Grow up.
I need to grow up?😁
You’re the one throwing a fit
Saying it was a terrible way to lose a game is throwing a fit?!
And to boot they were celebrating like they just won game 7 of the godamn world series. I was waiting for the dog pile. Geez after the kick in the nuts we got from the Knicks yesterday you'd think the Yanks could at least take care of us today.
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Bad luck and bad defense were the culprits
Yeah, I am losing it with Torres. They need a 2nd baseman. Where is Peraza?
I thought that was more on Rizzo. Gleyber was charging in and throwing off balance. The hop was not particularly difficult and Rizzo whiffed, something he’s doing a lot of this year in the field
It was a bad throw and that spin on that type of throw skips it away to the right. Like I said Rizzo three years ago maybe knocks it down. And yes Rizzo has not been as good this year.
Shake it off and comeback tomorrow.
Wasted another great start, too
Wasted another great start, too
yep - the pitches were actually too good in a weird sense.
The Yanks had two or three(IIRC) broken bat base hits in the game too.
Now Weaver, who is this year's King, inspires the most confidence coming out of the pen.
Ugh.
Ugly was to end a nice winning streak.
Would rather get waxed 10-1 than letting up a 4-spot in the last inning.
Sux.
Now Weaver, who is this year's King, inspires the most confidence coming out of the pen.
We were spoiled by Mo. Clay is a good closer just not a hall of famer.
As I said a few days ago, Holmes is what he is. He has a great sinker and has recently added some other pitches, but he's inconsistent, rarely has a 1-2-3 inning and often gets out of jams because the Yanks make great plays behind him and the umps have made some horrible calls in his favor. Today he ran into a hitters umpire, plus some bad luck and less than optimal fielding.
Ugh.
Ugly was to end a nice winning streak.
Would rather get waxed 10-1 than letting up a 4-spot in the last inning.
Sux.
Games like this happen. Get over it.
Jesus, relax.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Two walks? Yeesh. Knew there was one. But those were the fatal flaws.
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Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Kind of funny that people forget that Mo had a WHIP of over 1 nine times and over 0.95 four times. That means he was averaging a guy on base in every inning he pitched. His career regular season WHIP was 1. It was in the playoffs where he was really dialed in. His career postseason WHIP was 0.75.
Then there was Chapman, who seemed to get in serious trouble every other game. I still remember him walking two guys on 9 pitches to start the 9th in a one-run game only to get bailed out by a scorched grounded to the 3rd base bag that turned into a triple play and bailed him out. And Devers taking him deep is burned in my brain too.
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Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Are you saying that Holmes doesn't routinely pitch himself into jams? It was the same story with Holmes last season, and it got to the point that Boone started using other relievers to close out games.
Did I say that? Show me - WTF beers?....he is the 2nd coming of John Wetteland. But 95% of the time he gets it done. Last night was just as much bad luck as anything else.
He had a 0.00 ERA coming in - pretty piss poor I'd say.
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Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
Kind of funny that people forget that Mo had a WHIP of over 1 nine times and over 0.95 four times. That means he was averaging a guy on base in every inning he pitched. His career regular season WHIP was 1. It was in the playoffs where he was really dialed in. His career postseason WHIP was 0.75.
Then there was Chapman, who seemed to get in serious trouble every other game. I still remember him walking two guys on 9 pitches to start the 9th in a one-run game only to get bailed out by a scorched grounded to the 3rd base bag that turned into a triple play and bailed him out. And Devers taking him deep is burned in my brain too.
- .154 against Chapman
- .211 against Rivera
- .241 against Holmes
Most elite closers are below .230. Holmes is certainly effective, but IMO he is not that elite guy you want in tight games.