Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
also he walked two batters in two-thirds of an inning, which was really the fatal part. The dinks and dunks would not have lost the game absent the walks.
also he walked two batters in two-thirds of an inning, which was really the fatal part. The dinks and dunks would not have lost the game absent the walks.
Two walks? Yeesh. Knew there was one. But those were the fatal flaws.
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Are you saying that Holmes doesn't routinely pitch himself into jams? It was the same story with Holmes last season, and it got to the point that Boone started using other relievers to close out games.
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
Kind of funny that people forget that Mo had a WHIP of over 1 nine times and over 0.95 four times. That means he was averaging a guy on base in every inning he pitched. His career regular season WHIP was 1. It was in the playoffs where he was really dialed in. His career postseason WHIP was 0.75.
Then there was Chapman, who seemed to get in serious trouble every other game. I still remember him walking two guys on 9 pitches to start the 9th in a one-run game only to get bailed out by a scorched grounded to the 3rd base bag that turned into a triple play and bailed him out. And Devers taking him deep is burned in my brain too.
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Are you saying that Holmes doesn't routinely pitch himself into jams? It was the same story with Holmes last season, and it got to the point that Boone started using other relievers to close out games.
Did I say that? Show me - WTF beers?....he is the 2nd coming of John Wetteland. But 95% of the time he gets it done. Last night was just as much bad luck as anything else.
He had a 0.00 ERA coming in - pretty piss poor I'd say.
I was fearing a loss after they hit into three DP's
Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
Kind of funny that people forget that Mo had a WHIP of over 1 nine times and over 0.95 four times. That means he was averaging a guy on base in every inning he pitched. His career regular season WHIP was 1. It was in the playoffs where he was really dialed in. His career postseason WHIP was 0.75.
Then there was Chapman, who seemed to get in serious trouble every other game. I still remember him walking two guys on 9 pitches to start the 9th in a one-run game only to get bailed out by a scorched grounded to the 3rd base bag that turned into a triple play and bailed him out. And Devers taking him deep is burned in my brain too.
But opponents hit:
- .154 against Chapman
- .211 against Rivera
- .241 against Holmes
Most elite closers are below .230. Holmes is certainly effective, but IMO he is not that elite guy you want in tight games.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Two walks? Yeesh. Knew there was one. But those were the fatal flaws.
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Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Kind of funny that people forget that Mo had a WHIP of over 1 nine times and over 0.95 four times. That means he was averaging a guy on base in every inning he pitched. His career regular season WHIP was 1. It was in the playoffs where he was really dialed in. His career postseason WHIP was 0.75.
Then there was Chapman, who seemed to get in serious trouble every other game. I still remember him walking two guys on 9 pitches to start the 9th in a one-run game only to get bailed out by a scorched grounded to the 3rd base bag that turned into a triple play and bailed him out. And Devers taking him deep is burned in my brain too.
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Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
There were two infield dinks(and I mean dinks), a blooper and a hard hit grounder. Not exactly getting crushed. Even the sac fly was an uppercut floater...
Are you saying that Holmes doesn't routinely pitch himself into jams? It was the same story with Holmes last season, and it got to the point that Boone started using other relievers to close out games.
Did I say that? Show me - WTF beers?....he is the 2nd coming of John Wetteland. But 95% of the time he gets it done. Last night was just as much bad luck as anything else.
He had a 0.00 ERA coming in - pretty piss poor I'd say.
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Routinely puts people on base before closing out. Sooner or later it catches up and costs the team. You can't have you closer frequently giving opponents a chance.
Kind of funny that people forget that Mo had a WHIP of over 1 nine times and over 0.95 four times. That means he was averaging a guy on base in every inning he pitched. His career regular season WHIP was 1. It was in the playoffs where he was really dialed in. His career postseason WHIP was 0.75.
Then there was Chapman, who seemed to get in serious trouble every other game. I still remember him walking two guys on 9 pitches to start the 9th in a one-run game only to get bailed out by a scorched grounded to the 3rd base bag that turned into a triple play and bailed him out. And Devers taking him deep is burned in my brain too.
- .154 against Chapman
- .211 against Rivera
- .241 against Holmes
Most elite closers are below .230. Holmes is certainly effective, but IMO he is not that elite guy you want in tight games.