Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the games in Cleveland against the Guardians today & tomorrow.
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#LFGM!
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Notes:
-The games today and tomorrow will each be televised by SNY.
-The weather for today's game at Progressive Field in Cleveland is going to be pretty good. Click
HERE to keep updated and see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-The Mets are promoting starting pitcher Blade Tidwell & outfielder Rhylan Thomas from Double-A Binghamton to Triple-A Syracuse. They also promoted two-way player Nolan McLean from High-A Brooklyn to Double-A Binghamton yesterday. They sent LHP David Peterson on a rehab assignment to Triple-A Syracuse yesterday as well.
-Click
HERE to see the list of Mets transactions so far for May.
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HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today's game will consist of
Narváez (L), Stewart (L), Vientos (R), & Taylor (R). 
NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm
*For reference purposes, here is the link for the previous month as well:
NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
Mets @ Guardians | 6:10 pm EDT start - May 20, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Ron (strfish.xyz)
Mets @ Guardians | 6:10 pm EDT start - May 20, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Guardians’ feed – Bally Sports Great Lakes (strfish.xyz)
MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Guardians – May 20, 2024 - 6:10 pm EDT start
Note: Keith won't be calling the game today.
Enjoy today's game 😊
and now the mets run themselves into one of the stupidest double plays all year.
Yup, hard to watch, but the Mets are evaluating everyone....
I've seen plenty of Megill, he flashes (wasn't he 5-0 a couple of seasons ago?) but is always injured and then is horribly inconsistent.
A right handed version of David Peterson!
Thanks for the thread Optimus. Hope the Mets can win one of these three against a good team.
Lindor probably misses the relative quiet of Cleveland!
It really is a joke, isn't it danny? Sort of like the Madame Web movie I started watching on Netflix this weekend, lol.
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he should be a no brainer playing (and keeping his roster spot) over narvaez.
Hard to believe Narvaez hit 22 home runs in a season once and was an All-Star selection as recently as 2021.
Yup, Thomas Nido C-1 for the Mets...when does Alvarez return? He's been out at least 4 weeks, I think? Maybe June-ish?
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he should be a no brainer playing (and keeping his roster spot) over narvaez.
Hard to believe Narvaez hit 22 home runs in a season once and was an All-Star selection as recently as 2021.
Yup, Thomas Nido C-1 for the Mets...when does Alvarez return? He's been out at least 4 weeks, I think? Maybe June-ish?
It was supposed to be a 6 to 8 week injury with Alvy expected back by around June 20th or something. I'd say by July 1st at the latest.
Check it out below...
Schumaker Fed Up with Sixto Sánchez's Slow Starts: 'That Just Can't Happen at This Level' - ( New Window )
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he should be a no brainer playing (and keeping his roster spot) over narvaez.
Hard to believe Narvaez hit 22 home runs in a season once and was an All-Star selection as recently as 2021.
You know how that usually works, right ? Narvarez was good somewhere else, came to the Mets and stunk, and then he'll go somewhere else and have a few good years !!
See also McCann, D'Arnaud, and probably others I'm forgetting.
Check it out below...
Schumaker Fed Up with Sixto Sánchez's Slow Starts: 'That Just Can't Happen at This Level' - ( New Window )
Wow, that's unusual...these guys make so much money, their skippers usually avoid negative comments.
Actually, kind of refreshing.
BTW, how much more rope does Brett Baty get? Vientos is hitting, even in his limited AB's, Baty is close to an automatic out and looks like he's losing confidence...fast.
Such a highly rated prospect, but for every prospect who thrives at the next level, there are dozens who don't...
He's running out of rope here.
He's running out of rope here.
I think the Cleveland pitcher walked Taylor to get to Baty....
It would have shown no confidence in him, but put Vientos up in that spot-I mean, give your team a chance. You know Baty's going to wiff there....
1st plays strong defense but struggles offensively and could become a headcase
2nd one struggles with defense but has a hot bat with crazy bat speed
3rd is out for the season
I almost want to just move Lindor there and trade everyone
kewl
Every fucking year with this Mickey Mouse fucking club.
Here’s a thought - why don’t you do the exact opposite of what you always do…I guarantee it will results in more wins.
There you go…I can be a GM too!! This team must be the greatest at taking successful players and turn them into complete shit.
Maybe if he could hit a righty he would play more. All of his good AB’s have been against lefties.
Not much after that.
The big inning was the 6th..Mets get two guy on, but JD strikes out. Cleveland pitches around Taylor to get to Baty who strikes out in a bad AB.
Next nine to hit? No baserunners.
Lindor has never been this bad, has he? His BA is 156th out of 165 players who qualify for the BA stat.
Maybe drop him in the lineup instead of having him lead-off? His OBP is .286...why have him lead-off?
But in checking out the bottom feeders, Lindor is actually slightly ahead of Corbin Carroll, last year's NL ROTY...Of course, Carroll isn't getting paid 34 million.
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in his last start on Saturday and was immediately benched afterward. Hasn’t really been seen since.
Maybe if he could hit a righty he would play more. All of his good AB’s have been against lefties.
Well, not entirely true. Small sample size - but he’s 2 for 8 against righties with 1 walk, 2 K’s, 2 runs scored and a .250 BA against righties. Not exactly “bench worthy”. But this is what happens when you have fucking nerds running baseball with their “analytics”. And clearly fans eat that shit up without looking at the actual stats.
Nice analytics department the Mets have. Maybe they get paid by the loss?
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in his last start on Saturday and was immediately benched afterward. Hasn’t really been seen since.
Maybe if he could hit a righty he would play more. All of his good AB’s have been against lefties.
Well, not entirely true. Small sample size - but he’s 2 for 8 against righties with 1 walk, 2 K’s, 2 runs scored and a .250 BA against righties. Not exactly “bench worthy”. But this is what happens when you have fucking nerds running baseball with their “analytics”. And clearly fans eat that shit up without looking at the actual stats.
Nice analytics department the Mets have. Maybe they get paid by the loss?
It is not just this year. For his career in the majors he has been significantly worse versus righties even though he has more AB’s against them
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in his last start on Saturday and was immediately benched afterward. Hasn’t really been seen since.
Maybe if he could hit a righty he would play more. All of his good AB’s have been against lefties.
Well, not entirely true. Small sample size - but he’s 2 for 8 against righties with 1 walk, 2 K’s, 2 runs scored and a .250 BA against righties. Not exactly “bench worthy”. But this is what happens when you have fucking nerds running baseball with their “analytics”. And clearly fans eat that shit up without looking at the actual stats.
Nice analytics department the Mets have. Maybe they get paid by the loss?
It is not just this year. For his career in the majors he has been significantly worse versus righties even though he has more AB’s against them
He doesn’t have much of a career “in the majors”. And prior to this season he was jerked around more than any young player I’ve seen.
In the minors this season, he has faced righties most of the time and held his own. He’s obviously better against lefties but not unplayable against righties. And the current options are worse - but the Mets are completely fine with trotting them out there night after night? Loss after loss?
This FO has no fucking clue what they are doing.
we would all probably still rather see baty than jose iglesias, but like i said last weekend baty is non-competitive at the plate way too often. he has been bad enough that i think going to the minors and mashing some AAAA pitchers for a few weeks may be a good thing.
developing prospects at the mlb level is messy. go look up what philly fans said about bohm for his first 4 years. or riley for his first 2 in atlanta.
i do agree with coop that it is fair game that every mets FO since 2018 probably has seen whatever their "hitting philosophy" is fail and players hit under their career norms. 2022 the only exception. that was something i thought might improve with cohen but hasnt. stearns needs to fix development and find an offensive philosophy that fits the team/ballpark.
we would all probably still rather see baty than jose iglesias, but like i said last weekend baty is non-competitive at the plate way too often. he has been bad enough that i think going to the minors and mashing some AAAA pitchers for a few weeks may be a good thing.
developing prospects at the mlb level is messy. go look up what philly fans said about bohm for his first 4 years. or riley for his first 2 in atlanta.
i do agree with coop that it is fair game that every mets FO since 2018 probably has seen whatever their "hitting philosophy" is fail and players hit under their career norms. 2022 the only exception. that was something i thought might improve with cohen but hasnt. stearns needs to fix development and find an offensive philosophy that fits the team/ballpark.
We're a little less than 2 months into this regime. I don't think we can make any judgements one way or the other at this point.
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but baty is in some kind of crazy tailspin the last 3 ish weeks since the tampa series.
we would all probably still rather see baty than jose iglesias, but like i said last weekend baty is non-competitive at the plate way too often. he has been bad enough that i think going to the minors and mashing some AAAA pitchers for a few weeks may be a good thing.
developing prospects at the mlb level is messy. go look up what philly fans said about bohm for his first 4 years. or riley for his first 2 in atlanta.
i do agree with coop that it is fair game that every mets FO since 2018 probably has seen whatever their "hitting philosophy" is fail and players hit under their career norms. 2022 the only exception. that was something i thought might improve with cohen but hasnt. stearns needs to fix development and find an offensive philosophy that fits the team/ballpark.
We're a little less than 2 months into this regime. I don't think we can make any judgements one way or the other at this point.
2 months until the deadline when they will need to make judgements of who to keep or who to trade. halfway to that halfway point.
we would all probably still rather see baty than jose iglesias, but like i said last weekend baty is non-competitive at the plate way too often. he has been bad enough that i think going to the minors and mashing some AAAA pitchers for a few weeks may be a good thing.
developing prospects at the mlb level is messy. go look up what philly fans said about bohm for his first 4 years. or riley for his first 2 in atlanta.
i do agree with coop that it is fair game that every mets FO since 2018 probably has seen whatever their "hitting philosophy" is fail and players hit under their career norms. 2022 the only exception. that was something i thought might improve with cohen but hasnt. stearns needs to fix development and find an offensive philosophy that fits the team/ballpark.
It's a hard spot they are in with Baty. He looks like a AAAA player. This year is a good opportunity to give him more looks at MLB pitching, but like you said, he's completely non-competitive up there so it seems to be doing no good.
He proably needs another run at AAA to hopefully fit and get another MLB look in July or so if things go well down there. His bat look close to can't miss in MLB given the way be obliterated minor league pitching at all levels. Hasn't translated at all to MLB and the sample size isn't small. Really disappointing.
the depressing side is that somehow the Mets are 12.5 games out of the division already. And it's so depressing on May 21st the prospect is already being discussed at being sellers in 2 months again. Without much of value to sell.
I didn't expect much this season, I thought the Mets would hover around .500 so they're not that far off my expectations, but they are on the south side of them for sure.
other teams have experienced turnarounds without the same level of expenditure or massive infusion of talent from their farm, why does it seem like the Mets are stuck in shitty mode?
the depressing side is that somehow the Mets are 12.5 games out of the division already. And it's so depressing on May 21st the prospect is already being discussed at being sellers in 2 months again. Without much of value to sell.
I didn't expect much this season, I thought the Mets would hover around .500 so they're not that far off my expectations, but they are on the south side of them for sure.
other teams have experienced turnarounds without the same level of expenditure or massive infusion of talent from their farm, why does it seem like the Mets are stuck in shitty mode?
No organizational vision and structure. They have been constantly shuffling around the internal power structure 4-5 times over the last 7-8 years at least including back to under the meddling Wilpons. So you can scout talent but if you can't teach, develop them properly - it's all moot.
Cohen is a much better owner than the Wilpons but he's had a very up and down tenure and made a lot of mistakes. Hopefully he's learning and fast.
The chasing after "shiny" has been a huge error and has lead to a sloppy incohesive roster as well. The team doesn't really have an identity that's competitive, sustainable (mish mosh of some excessively overpaid vets, some homegrown players with some tools but glaringly lacking or missing others, and a lack of pitching depth).
Met fans have to be ready for another 2-3 years of pain (at least).
the farm system was what it was when cohen arrived and there is no way to change it quickly. they havent traded any prospects who have done anything that meaningful at the mlb level yet. as of now at least PCA is Baty by a different name. there was no bigger gimenez fan than me but there are players like him you can purchase on the FA market most offseasons.
they spent a lot of money,
in 2022 they entered the dance with a legitimate shot,
and if nothing else all the spending delivered David Stearns, Gilbert, J-Rod, Acuna, Vargas, Clifford, and Hernandez. That's the highest paid PBOPs in MLB and half of the org's top 10 prospects right now.
If building toward future from ground up was the priority, not sure there was any path that led to a better prospect group at present - and that includes that they kept T&T to deliver some very strong drafts (sproat, tidwell, jett, scott, tong, maclean, etc). I would take the combination of prospects they returned over all the prospects they gave up since 21.
they squeezed out 1 good season and they too have some exciting prospects, though probably not as many as mets because they didnt have the ability to do what mets did at trade deadline last year.
Even Kyle Teel is arguably more interesting than most Mets prospects. He's basically Parada before Parada became a non-prospect seemingly over night.
MLB has the Mets and Red Sox as 13 and 14 respectively in terms of farm systems, personally, I think the Red Sox top end prospects are more exciting.
alvarez is a year removed from prospect status but id probably say he is as or more exciting than any other age 22 or under in boston.
j-rod is only 17 and could be at a-ball before he turns 18. he is already on a few top 100's but he could rocket up by the end of this year if he continues performing.
main point is that there's no easy way to turn things around. the mets tried by spending a lot, it didn't work but it did help. mets system would be nowhere near bostons without last year's deadline.