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New York Giants OTA Updates - Day Two

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2024 12:00 pm
I will be updating this thread throughout the day.
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Dante Miller  
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Touchdown Nabers  
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David Long  
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RE: Since no real media access  
Professor Falken : 5/21/2024 5:02 pm : link
In comment 16521446 UberAlias said:
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This is from today --were a few interesting notes (Lock, Tracy, Ford-Wheaton) Big Blue Kickoff Live OTA Day 2 - ( New Window )

Any chance you can summarize for those of us who don't want to sit through an hour of Dottino?
Tomon Fox now 45  
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Tyrone Tracy  
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Jones and Nabers  
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Tyrone Tracy again  
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RE: We'll be improved  
knowledgetimmons : 5/21/2024 5:08 pm : link
In comment 16521438 ElitoCanton said:
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but it might be hard to see in the record because of how bad the QB play is going to be.


Back to Reddit, troll.
Jordon Riley is a big dude  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2024 5:08 pm : link
Jack Stoll  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2024 5:08 pm : link
there are 129 pictures  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2024 5:10 pm : link
in link above. I only posted a few of them.
Thanks Eric!  
ZogZerg : 5/21/2024 5:20 pm : link
I hate their slide show, so don't bother with it.
I enjoy the way you present the pictures.
Still no pictures of #33  
Blue Dog : 5/21/2024 5:28 pm : link
I'm 50/50 on believing Aaron Robinson is alive.
RE: Still no pictures of #33  
HMunster : 5/21/2024 5:33 pm : link
In comment 16521555 Blue Dog said:
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I'm 50/50 on believing Aaron Robinson is alive.


We need an Abe Vigoda tracker for Aaron Robinson.
Is Abe Vigoda Dead? - ( New Window )
RE: Jordon Riley is a big dude  
Bill in UT : 5/21/2024 5:39 pm : link
In comment 16521538 Eric from BBI said:
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Sure is. Did I read recently that he had dropped 20-30 pounds?
Thanks Eric  
uncledave : 5/21/2024 5:50 pm : link
Appreciate you putting these together so we can easily track all the information
RE: Thanks Eric!  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2024 6:04 pm : link
In comment 16521547 ZogZerg said:
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I hate their slide show, so don't bother with it.
I enjoy the way you present the pictures.


Their slider is a bit awkward... it also is funky with different browsers.
RE: RE: Jordon Riley is a big dude  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2024 6:05 pm : link
In comment 16521562 Bill in UT said:
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Sure is. Did I read recently that he had dropped 20-30 pounds?


I am not sure.
RE: RE: Jordon Riley is a big dude  
Blue Dog : 5/21/2024 6:24 pm : link
In comment 16521562 Bill in UT said:
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Sure is. Did I read recently that he had dropped 20-30 pounds?


The website isn't exactly known for being completely accurate, but they list him at 315lbs and he was 338lbs at the combine for what it's worth.
RE: Tyrone Tracy again  
Toth029 : 5/21/2024 6:38 pm : link
In comment 16521534 Eric from BBI said:
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I wonder if Daboll envisions a James Cook or Shane Vereen type.
RE: Daniel Jones  
Milton : 5/21/2024 6:56 pm : link

He's a ghost, he's a god, he's a guru... - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Still no pictures of #33  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2024 6:58 pm : link
In comment 16521557 HMunster said:
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I'm 50/50 on believing Aaron Robinson is alive.



We need an Abe Vigoda tracker for Aaron Robinson. Is Abe Vigoda Dead? - ( New Window )


I would be nice to see one piece of evidence that he is practicing.
There is no evidence  
Jaenyg : 5/21/2024 7:06 pm : link
That Andrew Thomas is practicing.
Jones and Nabers  
bluefin : 5/21/2024 7:21 pm : link
building the connection
RE: RE: RE: Still no pictures of #33  
armstead98 : 5/21/2024 8:06 pm : link
In comment 16521636 Eric from BBI said:
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I'm 50/50 on believing Aaron Robinson is alive.



We need an Abe Vigoda tracker for Aaron Robinson. Is Abe Vigoda Dead? - ( New Window )



I would be nice to see one piece of evidence that he is practicing.


Based on Dabolls comments earlier it sounds like he isn’t practicing yet, which is obviously concerning.
I assume Darius Slayton is a no show so far.  
Tom in NY : 5/21/2024 8:06 pm : link
I haven't seen any mention of him, nor seen him in any of the photos.
Has this been confirmed anywhere?
RE: I assume Darius Slayton is a no show so far.  
Bill in UT : 5/21/2024 8:13 pm : link
In comment 16521688 Tom in NY said:
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I haven't seen any mention of him, nor seen him in any of the photos.
Has this been confirmed anywhere?


You are the closest to confirmation that I've seen. Maybe he's working out with Aaron Robinson. I know he's led the team in receiving the past few years, but as a guy who's likely to be the #3 WTR, behind Nabers and Hyatt, forcing a long term $8M per year deal may very well move him off the team.
RE: There is no evidence  
Bill in UT : 5/21/2024 8:16 pm : link
In comment 16521640 Jaenyg said:
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That Andrew Thomas is practicing.


Oh, shit, if anyone needs the work, it's him :)
RE: RE: We'll be improved  
ElitoCanton : 5/21/2024 8:23 pm : link
Not ignoring reality is somehow being a troll here now. Got it. 🙄

In comment 16521537 knowledgetimmons said:
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but it might be hard to see in the record because of how bad the QB play is going to be.



Back to Reddit, troll.
RE: RE: RE: We'll be improved  
knowledgetimmons : 5/21/2024 8:42 pm : link
In comment 16521701 ElitoCanton said:
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Not ignoring reality is somehow being a troll here now. Got it. 🙄

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but it might be hard to see in the record because of how bad the QB play is going to be.



Back to Reddit, troll.



How about you give this a try: not being a miserable retard that brings up DJ in every thread. I’m sure the conversations with your 40-50 year old dad emboldens you to this behavior though.
Some very interesting depth  
barens : 5/21/2024 8:46 pm : link
at WR.
RE: RE: RE: RE: We'll be improved  
ElitoCanton : 5/21/2024 8:56 pm : link
You are truly way off on my demo. But nice try.

I'm sick of this shit QB play and sick of people like you who attack people for facing reality.

In comment 16521723 knowledgetimmons said:
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Not ignoring reality is somehow being a troll here now. Got it. 🙄

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but it might be hard to see in the record because of how bad the QB play is going to be.



Back to Reddit, troll.





How about you give this a try: not being a miserable retard that brings up DJ in every thread. I’m sure the conversations with your 40-50 year old dad emboldens you to this behavior though.
RE: There is no evidence  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2024 8:57 pm : link
In comment 16521640 Jaenyg said:
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That Andrew Thomas is practicing.


Sure there is... Schmeelk's Monday report. Did you not read it?


Also, I assume you are basing your concern on Ezeudu? Ezeudu is not playing with the first-team OL. Look at his flankmate in the pictures from Monday.



A few observations from the photos  
armstead98 : 5/21/2024 9:47 pm : link
- I did a double take thinking I saw Saquon in one photo, it was Tracy
- Eric gray has been putting time in the gym
- Slide 98 shows back 7 “starters”: Okereke, McFadden, Flott, Banks, Pinnock and Belton. No surprised there but no rookies or Mcloud.
- Bashem simply looks slow even in photos, lol
- Mcloud got burned for one of Nabers TDs. The beats don’t say who got beat but the photo shows
Nabers  
ElitoCanton : 5/21/2024 10:17 pm : link
will beat a ton of guys for TDs. Especially before teams scheme. I still think McCloud has a good chance to win a starting job.
RE: A few observations from the photos  
Bill in UT : 5/21/2024 10:18 pm : link
In comment 16521786 armstead98 said:
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- Mcloud got burned for one of Nabers TDs. The beats don’t say who got beat but the photo shows


I'm assuming/hoping that Nabers can beat any CB on this team inside the red zone, which is where today's drills were done.
RE: A few observations from the photos  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2024 8:00 am : link
In comment 16521786 armstead98 said:
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- I did a double take thinking I saw Saquon in one photo, it was Tracy
- Eric gray has been putting time in the gym
- Slide 98 shows back 7 “starters”: Okereke, McFadden, Flott, Banks, Pinnock and Belton. No surprised there but no rookies or Mcloud.
- Bashem simply looks slow even in photos, lol
- Mcloud got burned for one of Nabers TDs. The beats don’t say who got beat but the photo shows


There is no reporter access this week except for Thursday.
a couple of Dottino observations  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/22/2024 8:06 am : link
He openly admitted there were things he was not allowed to say.

But he did say two interesting things:

(1) He said he was impressed with Drew Lock's arm and athleticism. Said he was better than he thought. (Surprising that a Giants employee would open that Pandora's Box).

(2) He raved about Tyrone Tracy.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: We'll be improved  
Brown_Hornet : 5/22/2024 8:38 am : link
In comment 16521740 ElitoCanton said:
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You are truly way off on my demo. But nice try.

I'm sick of this shit QB play and sick of people like you who attack people for facing reality.



No, this is not facing reality, it is a cry for attention.
There is literally nothing left to criticize. Most wanted him replaced. It didn't happen.
You have had a month to deal with it.

Now, it's whining. It's temper tantrums.
RE: a couple of Dottino observations  
UberAlias : 5/22/2024 9:02 am : link
In comment 16521904 Eric from BBI said:
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He openly admitted there were things he was not allowed to say.

But he did say two interesting things:

(1) He said he was impressed with Drew Lock's arm and athleticism. Said he was better than he thought. (Surprising that a Giants employee would open that Pandora's Box).

(2) He raved about Tyrone Tracy.
Yep. He also had strong praise for the WRs who are competing for roster spots. At one point he did mention Fort-Wheaton specifically, but he was impressed with that whole group said several had clearly come to compete.
RE: a couple of Dottino observations  
Vin_Cuccs : 5/22/2024 9:10 am : link
In comment 16521904 Eric from BBI said:
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He openly admitted there were things he was not allowed to say.

But he did say two interesting things:

(1) He said he was impressed with Drew Lock's arm and athleticism. Said he was better than he thought. (Surprising that a Giants employee would open that Pandora's Box).

(2) He raved about Tyrone Tracy.


(1) I feel like some people are quick to discount Lock.

He was brought here to compete. When interviewed after Lock left via free agency, John Schneider said the Giants sold him on an opportunity to win a job. Lock and the Giants later backed off of this stance, but why would Schneider lie about that?

I am very curious to see how he looks in this system. Maybe he can put it all together. He is still only 27 years old. With this said, I am biased. I was firmly in the camp of taking OLB Josh Allen in 2019, and select Lock later in the draft. I have always liked Lock's arm talent and moxie.

(2) I am trying to temper my expectations for Tracy, but I am very excited to see him play.
RE: a couple of Dottino observations  
PatersonPlank : 5/22/2024 11:36 am : link
In comment 16521904 Eric from BBI said:
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He openly admitted there were things he was not allowed to say.

But he did say two interesting things:

(1) He said he was impressed with Drew Lock's arm and athleticism. Said he was better than he thought. (Surprising that a Giants employee would open that Pandora's Box).

(2) He raved about Tyrone Tracy.


I've been saying this, Lock is better than most think. I don't see much difference between him and Jones, and frankly with Jones coming off the ACL injury (so not 100%) I would not be at all surprised to see Lock take the job on day 1.
I said in another thread  
UberAlias : 5/22/2024 12:06 pm : link
all I ask at QB this year is that we make it a legitimate competition. Guy who earns it and gives us the best chance to win gets the job. I know there are fans would roll their eyes, but not me. I think a legit camp battle at QB would be exciting to watch. I think the winner would benefit from it too.
There is a QB compeition  
HBart : 5/22/2024 12:20 pm : link
Of course it will never be announced, and the company line will always be Jones is QB if he's ready.

Lock is a worthy competitor -- physically, he's a prototype. A lot for Daboll to work with there.

As the injured incumbent Jones gets a few strokes, but if Lock plays well enough to beat the handicap he'll start week 1, and we'll hear that Jones needs more time.
Drew Lock  
Lambuth_Special : 5/22/2024 12:24 pm : link
I would love nothing more than for Lock to be a legitimate alternative to Jones, but there's so little there to indicate he will be.

I've used advanced stats to criticize Jones, so I have to be consistent here: Lock has rarely graded out well in any of the advanced metrics. He was ok as a rookie, and was passable (high-end backup) in his 3 games last year. There's a whole lot of nothing inbetween that.

Giants better hope Jones rediscovers his 2022 form (which was bolstered by his running) or that DeVito has an untapped upside we'll see in year 2.
All Likelihood  
Lambuth_Special : 5/22/2024 12:27 pm : link
Jones wins the QB competition. Practicing and showing well in training camp and preseason were never his issue outside of a few of those 2022 training camp session where Taylor looked better (as pointed out by Sy).
RE: There is a QB compeition  
Brown_Hornet : 5/22/2024 12:44 pm : link
In comment 16522149 HBart said:
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Of course it will never be announced, and the company line will always be Jones is QB if he's ready.

Lock is a worthy competitor -- physically, he's a prototype. A lot for Daboll to work with there.

As the injured incumbent Jones gets a few strokes, but if Lock plays well enough to beat the handicap he'll start week 1, and we'll hear that Jones needs more time.
I think that this is likely the plan going into the off season programs.
A few things regarding a possible competition  
UberAlias : 5/22/2024 2:01 pm : link
--Competition generally brings out the best in the people competing.
--The fact of a competition would be further evidence that this team is not sitting back on Jones being the guy. I belive this team is serious about finding their franchise guy, but putting the incumbent into an actual competition would be absolute proof of that (though many would still deny if Jones wins, which there is a good chance he would).
--End of day, I want the best guy out there. I don't care who it is.
From the Giants.com captions  
FranknWeezer : 5/22/2024 3:08 pm : link
good to see "DT Jordan Phillips" getting all those reps at backup placekicker. We fooled our own team by having 2 #99's during OTA's. SMH.
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