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nygiants16 : 5/21/2024 12:25 pm
according to Popper all indications are that Brunson is willing to sign this offseason to give 5 more yesrs of certainy and forgo 270 millionhe could sign next year
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Brown was absolutely fouled on the 3  
JT039 : 5/21/2024 10:38 pm : link
Too. OT here we go.
RE: RE: Joe Mazzulla  
JT039 : 5/21/2024 10:39 pm : link
In comment 16521814 nygiants16 said:
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Still the worst coach in the NBA. It’s comically bad how he could fuck a game but for two years running - he’s mastered it.

Al Horford is cooked and yet he continues to let him get abused defensively trip after trip.



he is awful, he should be fired if they dont win a championship


Agreed.
Mike Breen having a rough night.  
bceagle05 : 5/21/2024 10:45 pm : link
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Where is Tatum?  
nygiants16 : 5/21/2024 10:45 pm : link
for a guy who is supposed to be one of the new faces of the league, boy doe she dissapear in big spots
Hali stumbling bumbling fumbling.  
bceagle05 : 5/21/2024 10:50 pm : link
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RE: Where is Tatum?  
JT039 : 5/21/2024 10:51 pm : link
In comment 16521820 nygiants16 said:
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for a guy who is supposed to be one of the new faces of the league, boy doe she dissapear in big spots


Two big plays in a row unfortunately.
So will Carslisle say in the post game  
nygiants16 : 5/21/2024 10:52 pm : link
how the NBA doesnt want them there and the refs ar ein Bostons favor?
RE: So will Carslisle say in the post game  
LW_Giants : 5/21/2024 10:54 pm : link
In comment 16521825 nygiants16 said:
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how the NBA doesnt want them there and the refs ar ein Bostons favor?


Nah because he knows the media wouldn’t agree and back him like they would against the Knicks
Mazzulla getting too cute.  
bceagle05 : 5/21/2024 11:00 pm : link
Jeff Van Gundy is a consultant with Boston. I can just hear him telling Brad Stevens, “Man this team could really use a veteran coach who’s coached in a big market and has a lot of playoff experience, don’t ya think?”
Celtics survive  
JT039 : 5/21/2024 11:01 pm : link
Go Twolves or Mavericks!
RE: Mazzulla getting too cute.  
LW_Giants : 5/21/2024 11:02 pm : link
In comment 16521829 bceagle05 said:
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Jeff Van Gundy is a consultant with Boston. I can just hear him telling Brad Stevens, “Man this team could really use a veteran coach who’s coached in a big market and has a lot of playoff experience, don’t ya think?”


At that point why wouldn't Brad Stevens just be the GM/Head Coach a la Pat Riley in the 2000's?
Yeah I’m shocked Stevens hasn’t jumped back in.  
bceagle05 : 5/21/2024 11:04 pm : link
He must’ve really been burned out.
Really a shame  
bceagle05 : 5/21/2024 11:05 pm : link
seeing those unforced errors from Haliburton down the stretch. One might say…he choked?
RE: This was decided a couple months ago  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/21/2024 11:10 pm : link
In comment 16521411 ajr2456 said:
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When I mentioned it. Similar to Harts opt in and extend move last year, this team and front office are a family. Let’s see if Julius does something similar.


Still reading through but like AJ said this was spoken about a few months ago. I agree about Julius also wonder if IHart takes less as well to come back. I may be wrong but Brunson is about to make bank on endorsements. His brand is growing and not just NYC.

He wants to win
Apparently it is possible to take the high road  
LW_Giants : 5/21/2024 11:19 pm : link
just not against the knicks.....

Carlisle said his daughter is already going to sit out one semester of college and he can't have her take a whole year off. (This was his comment when asked about officiating, which says everything)
RE: RE: I once asked ajr in a Knicks thread  
81_Great_Dane : 5/22/2024 12:02 am : link
In comment 16521706 aimrocky said:
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about the Lebron possibility and he mentioned they probably didn’t want the circus that comes with him. Makes sense with the strong culture they’ve built.

However, it really does line up perfectly. Knicks have three draft picks in the range where Bronny should be available, Lebron has an opt-out, he’s a perfect fit for this roster at this time, and could add to his legacy in a major way by being a part of the Knicks team that finally wins it all.



I can’t believe I’m reading this. Knick fans want LeBron. You guys are crazy.
I’m a Knicks fan since 1970 and I don’t.

This regime drafts well. Would they essentially waste a pick on Bronny? Not a first. Bronny MIGHT be worth a 2nd. Maybe. Would LeBron sign with the Knicks. Hard to imagine. Only to play with Bronny and Bronny is going to get about as many minutes as Jacob Toppin did this past season.

LBJ is way, waaaaaay down my wish list for the Knicks. The one thing that makes him interesting is that he might not cost the Knicks any players.
Please no to LeBron  
HardTruth : 5/22/2024 7:18 am : link
He would take over this organization and the first sign is having to draft Bronny to land him

No thanks. Stay the course with this group and look to land someone who fits in with Brunson as the lead and the Villanova culture
I think a potential  
Jon In NYC : 5/22/2024 7:46 am : link
Bridges trade would have to be three teams. Eases the sting for the Nets in trading their best player to a rival and also the Nets seem to want to compete now since they don't have any of their picks.

Some teams/players that could make sense to send to the Nets:

ATL: Trae or Murray
New Orleans: Ingram
Minnesota: KAT (they keep saying they'll have to break up this team for cap reasons)
Cleveland: Garland or Mitchell

But my favorite is actually Simons with Portland.

The Nets need a lead guard in the worst way. Simons is blocking both Sharpe and Scoot. The Blazers also could use the plethora of picks.

A Simons to BK, Bridges to NYK and Bogie + Deuce + Picks to POR trade works under the cap too.
RE: I think a potential  
nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 8:01 am : link
In comment 16521894 Jon In NYC said:
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Bridges trade would have to be three teams. Eases the sting for the Nets in trading their best player to a rival and also the Nets seem to want to compete now since they don't have any of their picks.

Some teams/players that could make sense to send to the Nets:

ATL: Trae or Murray
New Orleans: Ingram
Minnesota: KAT (they keep saying they'll have to break up this team for cap reasons)
Cleveland: Garland or Mitchell

But my favorite is actually Simons with Portland.

The Nets need a lead guard in the worst way. Simons is blocking both Sharpe and Scoot. The Blazers also could use the plethora of picks.

A Simons to BK, Bridges to NYK and Bogie + Deuce + Picks to POR trade works under the cap too.


If you could do this, i immediately call the clips and try to do a paul george for Randle trade
RE: RE: I think a potential  
Jon In NYC : 5/22/2024 8:08 am : link
In comment 16521901 nygiants16 said:
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Bridges trade would have to be three teams. Eases the sting for the Nets in trading their best player to a rival and also the Nets seem to want to compete now since they don't have any of their picks.

Some teams/players that could make sense to send to the Nets:

ATL: Trae or Murray
New Orleans: Ingram
Minnesota: KAT (they keep saying they'll have to break up this team for cap reasons)
Cleveland: Garland or Mitchell

But my favorite is actually Simons with Portland.

The Nets need a lead guard in the worst way. Simons is blocking both Sharpe and Scoot. The Blazers also could use the plethora of picks.

A Simons to BK, Bridges to NYK and Bogie + Deuce + Picks to POR trade works under the cap too.



If you could do this, i immediately call the clips and try to do a paul george for Randle trade


Love Julius, but a Mikal-PG-OG wing trio is pretty insane, especially defensively. That's probably 3 of the top 6 or so wing defenders in the league.
You could habe a desth lineup  
nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 8:23 am : link
Brunson, divo or hart, Mikal, George, OG..
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nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 9:06 am : link
Brunson had surgery on his hand..

Bojan had surgery on his wrist..

Knicks announce
RE: RE: RE: RE: I once asked ajr in a Knicks thread  
Dr. D : 5/22/2024 9:10 am : link
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I can’t believe I’m reading this. Knick fans want LeBron. You guys are crazy.


Knicks fans under the age of 60 would like to see a championship in their lifetimes.



Agreed, but if we won with LeBron, the narrative would be about LeBron. I don’t want to win that way.

I firmly believe the superstars of the LeBron era hurt the NBA product, with their me first attitude and play style, flopping and incessant complaining. It feels like the league is finally coming out of that haze, with team and city oriented superstars, de-emphasizing flopping and emphasizing a more physical game that isn’t over officiated. Hopefully all of that brings the complaining down, but that remains to be seen.

I can’t wait for the LeBron’s, Harden’s, Durant’s and Kyrie’s disappear.

Totally agree aim
Ugh.  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2024 9:49 am : link

@SbondyNBA
Between December and May, the Knicks had seven surgeries:

* Mitchell Robinson (ankle)
* OG Anunoby (Elbow)
* Julius Randle (shoulder)
* Bojan Bogdanovic (foot)
* Mitchell Robinson (ankle)
* Jalen Brunson (hand)
* Bojan Bogdanovic (wrist)
RE: Ugh.  
Jon In NYC : 5/22/2024 10:37 am : link
In comment 16522010 bceagle05 said:
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@SbondyNBA
Between December and May, the Knicks had seven surgeries:

* Mitchell Robinson (ankle)
* OG Anunoby (Elbow)
* Julius Randle (shoulder)
* Bojan Bogdanovic (foot)
* Mitchell Robinson (ankle)
* Jalen Brunson (hand)
* Bojan Bogdanovic (wrist)


I don't remember seeing anything like this, with any team. Totally nuts. The only guy who somehow managed to stay healthy all year was Divencenzo.

Hartenstein had that Achilles thing and Hart had the Ab thing but they didn't surgery.
The injuries were crazy but  
Svengali : 5/22/2024 11:49 am : link
Brunson signs this extension he’ll quickly become one of my all time favorites. True team player.
RE: RE: Ugh.  
fredgbrown : 5/22/2024 11:52 am : link
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@SbondyNBA
Between December and May, the Knicks had seven surgeries:

* Mitchell Robinson (ankle)
* OG Anunoby (Elbow)
* Julius Randle (shoulder)
* Bojan Bogdanovic (foot)
* Mitchell Robinson (ankle)
* Jalen Brunson (hand)
* Bojan Bogdanovic (wrist)



I don't remember seeing anything like this, with any team. Totally nuts. The only guy who somehow managed to stay healthy all year was Divencenzo.

Hartenstein had that Achilles thing and Hart had the Ab thing but they didn't surgery.
Don't forget big buckets Burks avoided surgery... but everyone forgot his was still on this team...Think if somehow if the knicks built up a big lead in first half of game 7 and somehow won the starting lineup would be Miles, DDV, Burks, Precious and Hartenstein and still think we would have stayed close to the Celtics they are overrated. The only problem is the bench would have Miles, DDV, Burks, Precious and Hartenstein.
RE: RE: RE: Ugh.  
fredgbrown : 5/22/2024 11:55 am : link
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@SbondyNBA
Between December and May, the Knicks had seven surgeries:

* Mitchell Robinson (ankle)
* OG Anunoby (Elbow)
* Julius Randle (shoulder)
* Bojan Bogdanovic (foot)
* Mitchell Robinson (ankle)
* Jalen Brunson (hand)
* Bojan Bogdanovic (wrist)



I don't remember seeing anything like this, with any team. Totally nuts. The only guy who somehow managed to stay healthy all year was Divencenzo.

Hartenstein had that Achilles thing and Hart had the Ab thing but they didn't surgery.

Don't forget big buckets Burks avoided surgery... but everyone forgot his was still on this team...Think if somehow if the knicks built up a big lead in first half of game 7 and somehow won the starting lineup would be Miles, DDV, Burks, Precious and Hartenstein and still think we would have stayed close to the Celtics they are overrated. The only problem is the bench would have Miles, DDV, Burks, Precious and Hartenstein.
I like Jacob Toppin he needs another year in G league then he could be a good role player if they develop him right and not to be a cherry picker like his brother.
Bridges  
TyreeHelmet : 5/22/2024 12:03 pm : link
Is the guy- it just makes too much sense. Bogie and 4/5 first round picks.

I think the Nets might be worried about the blowback they get if they turn another big offer down for him. The team is going nowhere and theres not really a point of having Bridges on that type of squad.

He's young, fits the culture perfectly and fits their play perfectly. Great D, good shooting for spacing and just enough creation to help when needed.

They could also market it as doing Bridges a solid and I'm sure they would like to own some unprotected Knicks picks.

Philly  
Pete44 : 5/22/2024 12:40 pm : link
Philly is confident they can land Paul George to play alongside Embiid and Maxey.

It seems the Knicks and 76ers will be battling on this front. Philly has an advantage as they can sign him outright.
RE: Philly  
nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 12:49 pm : link
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Philly is confident they can land Paul George to play alongside Embiid and Maxey.

It seems the Knicks and 76ers will be battling on this front. Philly has an advantage as they can sign him outright.


The problem for Phyilly though is LAC really going to want to lose him for nothing and then not add anything to a newly signed Kawhi?

My guess George will work with LAC
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Pete44 : 5/22/2024 1:31 pm : link
In comment 16522179 nygiants16 said:
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Philly is confident they can land Paul George to play alongside Embiid and Maxey.

It seems the Knicks and 76ers will be battling on this front. Philly has an advantage as they can sign him outright.



The problem for Phyilly though is LAC really going to want to lose him for nothing and then not add anything to a newly signed Kawhi?

My guess George will work with LAC


I love George as a player, but to me, his age bothers me in giving up a ton of assets for him. I guess any deal would include Randle. Should be interesting as PG is CAA.
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nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 1:36 pm : link
In comment 16522227 Pete44 said:
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Philly is confident they can land Paul George to play alongside Embiid and Maxey.

It seems the Knicks and 76ers will be battling on this front. Philly has an advantage as they can sign him outright.



The problem for Phyilly though is LAC really going to want to lose him for nothing and then not add anything to a newly signed Kawhi?

My guess George will work with LAC



I love George as a player, but to me, his age bothers me in giving up a ton of assets for him. I guess any deal would include Randle. Should be interesting as PG is CAA.


Yeah i think any deal includes Randle, he is a good fit next to Kawhi
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Pete44 : 5/22/2024 2:01 pm : link
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Philly is confident they can land Paul George to play alongside Embiid and Maxey.

It seems the Knicks and 76ers will be battling on this front. Philly has an advantage as they can sign him outright.



The problem for Phyilly though is LAC really going to want to lose him for nothing and then not add anything to a newly signed Kawhi?

My guess George will work with LAC



I love George as a player, but to me, his age bothers me in giving up a ton of assets for him. I guess any deal would include Randle. Should be interesting as PG is CAA.



Yeah i think any deal includes Randle, he is a good fit next to Kawhi


LAC is one team that Randle makes some sense on, both CAA clients, that could be the move if PG leaves LA.

Brunson-Divo-PG-OG-Mitch - does that put us on top over Boston, improving Indiana, Philly and Mill.
How about something like a package sign and trade with Chi  
Stu11 : 5/22/2024 2:31 pm : link
for DeRozan & Caruso. We send back some picks and Bojan to make the salries work. We sell DeRozan on being the next Jamal Crawford 6th man microwave type off the bench to chase a ring the latter part of his career. Caruso gives us another elite defender/ball handler. Chi could easily lose DeRozan for nothing so they'd probably jump at the assets.
27 year old PG with no injury problems, sure  
Jon In NYC : 5/22/2024 2:42 pm : link
but I'm not trading Randle for a 34 year old Paul George who wants a full max and consistently is out hurt. Seems like a pretty drastic step away from the culture we're building and the timeline of the team. If healthy I agree that he's a great fit but I am not putting my eggs in that basket.

There are two names I'm all in on: Bridges and Booker.
RE: How about something like a package sign and trade with Chi  
nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 2:43 pm : link
In comment 16522284 Stu11 said:
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for DeRozan & Caruso. We send back some picks and Bojan to make the salries work. We sell DeRozan on being the next Jamal Crawford 6th man microwave type off the bench to chase a ring the latter part of his career. Caruso gives us another elite defender/ball handler. Chi could easily lose DeRozan for nothing so they'd probably jump at the assets.


According to Scoop b so take FWIW, he claims kNicks and Bulls discussed a deal at the deadline Randle for Derozan and Caruso
RE: RE: How about something like a package sign and trade with Chi  
Jon In NYC : 5/22/2024 2:43 pm : link
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for DeRozan & Caruso. We send back some picks and Bojan to make the salries work. We sell DeRozan on being the next Jamal Crawford 6th man microwave type off the bench to chase a ring the latter part of his career. Caruso gives us another elite defender/ball handler. Chi could easily lose DeRozan for nothing so they'd probably jump at the assets.



According to Scoop b so take FWIW, he claims kNicks and Bulls discussed a deal at the deadline Randle for Derozan and Caruso


I find that very very hard to believe.
RE: RE: How about something like a package sign and trade with Chi  
Stu11 : 5/22/2024 2:47 pm : link
In comment 16522299 nygiants16 said:
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for DeRozan & Caruso. We send back some picks and Bojan to make the salries work. We sell DeRozan on being the next Jamal Crawford 6th man microwave type off the bench to chase a ring the latter part of his career. Caruso gives us another elite defender/ball handler. Chi could easily lose DeRozan for nothing so they'd probably jump at the assets.



According to Scoop b so take FWIW, he claims kNicks and Bulls discussed a deal at the deadline Randle for Derozan and Caruso

Wow very interesting. Don't think I'd do that but its a moot point now any way with DeRozan being a UFA Chicago has no leverage. I know DeRozan is not a great defender, but the guy is a professional scorer and being the driving force of the 2nd unit he could be very valuable and Caruso helps the D immensly.
RE: RE: How about something like a package sign and trade with Chi  
ajr2456 : 5/22/2024 2:49 pm : link
In comment 16522299 nygiants16 said:
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for DeRozan & Caruso. We send back some picks and Bojan to make the salries work. We sell DeRozan on being the next Jamal Crawford 6th man microwave type off the bench to chase a ring the latter part of his career. Caruso gives us another elite defender/ball handler. Chi could easily lose DeRozan for nothing so they'd probably jump at the assets.



According to Scoop b so take FWIW, he claims kNicks and Bulls discussed a deal at the deadline Randle for Derozan and Caruso


Not even remotely true.
RE: RE: RE: How about something like a package sign and trade with Chi  
nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 2:53 pm : link
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for DeRozan & Caruso. We send back some picks and Bojan to make the salries work. We sell DeRozan on being the next Jamal Crawford 6th man microwave type off the bench to chase a ring the latter part of his career. Caruso gives us another elite defender/ball handler. Chi could easily lose DeRozan for nothing so they'd probably jump at the assets.



According to Scoop b so take FWIW, he claims kNicks and Bulls discussed a deal at the deadline Randle for Derozan and Caruso



Not even remotely true.


Not surprising
feels weird being excited about an offseason  
djm : 5/22/2024 3:14 pm : link
when the team is already good. Last time I felt this way was back in the early 90s. That first off-season following Riley's year 1 when the Knicks had some ammo and some room and made the big move to get...I won't even name him. HE was ok. Played hard. Was a true pro but I won't go there. You knew the Knicks were going to make a big move back then and build on a 50+ win team.

We can only hope (and expect) the big move this time around pays bigger and better dividends.

No idea what to expect but I trust this regime. They will make the right move. If it's a minor move or two, fine. If it's a whopper, fine. I do think they will explore everything.

The Randle looming contract adds a wrinkle. We saw how they handled IQ and I think they liked him a lot as a player. HE played a lot of minutes here. This regime drafted him. They still dealt him. They could do the same with Randle.
RE: 27 year old PG with no injury problems, sure  
Chris684 : 5/22/2024 3:32 pm : link
In comment 16522298 Jon In NYC said:
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but I'm not trading Randle for a 34 year old Paul George who wants a full max and consistently is out hurt. Seems like a pretty drastic step away from the culture we're building and the timeline of the team. If healthy I agree that he's a great fit but I am not putting my eggs in that basket.

There are two names I'm all in on: Bridges and Booker.


I agree with you Jon. Giannis and Booker are the stars I'd chase (who wouldn't) but they are most likely a pipe dream.

Bridges is the other guy I would love to have, and while it's probably not as unlikely, I have a hard time believing the Nets would deal with us.

That said, I'm also comfortable moving forward with the core we have in place and making some smart moves around those guys. Maybe we bring in a Caruso, who I'd love to get, or other lesser tier moves.

It would be really hard to convince me that with health, we wouldn't still be playing with a golden opportunity to knock out Boston or either Western team.
According bleacher report  
nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 3:56 pm : link
Demar Derozan to Knicks is a realistic possibility
RE: According bleacher report  
larryflower37 : 5/22/2024 4:04 pm : link
In comment 16522382 nygiants16 said:
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Demar Derozan to Knicks is a realistic possibility

My least favorite player... Want nothing to do with him. He defensive rating continues to drop and the lack of 3 pt shooting just doesn't make him a good fit.
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nygiants16 : 5/22/2024 4:19 pm : link
In comment 16522390 larryflower37 said:
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Demar Derozan to Knicks is a realistic possibility


My least favorite player... Want nothing to do with him. He defensive rating continues to drop and the lack of 3 pt shooting just doesn't make him a good fit.


They mentioned it as a bench scorer but i dont knownif he is receptive to that, especially when all indications are the Bulls want to pay him
most of the recent moves  
Enzo : 5/22/2024 4:26 pm : link
(iHart, Hart, OG, DVD, Brunson) have involved guys firmly in their prime. Not sure we should be pursuing guys who won't be cheap and who will likely be out of the league sooner rather than later.
Brunson second team All NBA.  
bceagle05 : 5/22/2024 7:56 pm : link
Tatum beat him out for first team, which is debatable.
Congratulations Brunson!!  
larryflower37 : 5/22/2024 8:36 pm : link
I definitely think he should have gotten first team
Dereck Lively tonight for Mavs  
shyster : 5/22/2024 11:14 pm : link
4-4, 9 pts, 11 rebounds, 2 blocks, +19 in 27 minutes.

He's been a significant add through the draft for the Mavs. Woulda/coulda been a Knick pick if Dallas had won a couple more games last year.

A useful player on a controlled rookie contract salary is a very good thing to have.
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