Starting Lineups for both clubs today.
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Probable Starting Pitcher Matchups for the game in Cleveland against the Guardians today & on Friday night in Flushing against the Giants.
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Notes:
-The games today and on Friday will each be televised by SNY. Tomorrow is an off-day.
-The weather for today's game at Progressive Field in Cleveland is a bit questionable due to showers around game time and a chance of thunderstorms during it. Click
HERE to keep updated and see the Hourly AccuWeather Reports from there.
-The Mets (21-27) are trying to avoid being swept today. They’ve got a record of 12-4 in series finales so far this season, but are 9-23 in all other games. Tomorrow’s their last off-day this month before they play 13 consecutive games. They’re 6-13 overall so far in May. Brooks Raley will have Tommy John surgery next week and miss the rest of the season. Click
HERE to read about the Raley situation.
-Click
HERE to see the list of Mets transactions so far for May.
-Click
HERE to see the Mets' 26-man active roster.
-The Mets' 4-man bench for today's game will consist of
Nido (R), Taylor (R), Marte (R), & Baty (L). 
NFT: Mets Minor Leagues (May) - DanMetroMan - 5/1/2024 12:15 pm
*For reference purposes, here is the link for the previous month as well:
NFT: Mets Minor League Update (April) - DanMetroMan - 4/2/2024 10:17 am
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The #Mets got a much-needed positive update on Francisco Alvarez, who is progressing well in his recovery from thumb surgery. He is expected to take batting practice with the team this weekend.
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Mets @ Guardians | 1:10 pm EDT start - May 22, 2024 – TV Broadcast: Mets' feed – SNY: Gary & Ron (thesportsupa.com)
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MLB.com - Gameday: Pitch by Pitch – Mets @ Guardians – May 22, 2024 - 1:10 pm EDT start
Note: Keith won't be calling the game today.
Enjoy today's game 😊
lindor worked a good long at bat and all 3 balls hard hit so far with nimmos 104 mph single.
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The #Mets got a much-needed positive update on Francisco Alvarez, who is progressing well in his recovery from thumb surgery. He is expected to take batting practice with the team this weekend.
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Good news indeed. Puna's reporting that the Mets are expecting Alvy to return somewhere around mid-to-late June.
Alonso and Nimmo are showing more vibe at the plate.
Right now Lindor needs to get above .200 BA this weekend. Two months in and below Mendoza Line still is just unacceptable. I’ve given up on McNeil being a consistent impact factor offensively and sounds like the Mets new regime are not going to treat him as sacred for the whole season.
Alonso and Nimmo are showing more vibe at the plate.
Right now Lindor needs to get above .200 BA this weekend. Two months in and below Mendoza Line still is just unacceptable. I’ve given up on McNeil being a consistent impact factor offensively and sounds like the Mets new regime are not going to treat him as sacred for the whole season.
impeccable mcneil timing - after that homer he's now hitting .244 and ops at .668. 3 xbh in 2 days so hopefully he's getting into the vibe too.
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Alvarez to infuse a little positive energy here even though the season may stink overall, they need to show some energy with the young players and optimism. Can see the team starting to teeter on emotions.
Alonso and Nimmo are showing more vibe at the plate.
Right now Lindor needs to get above .200 BA this weekend. Two months in and below Mendoza Line still is just unacceptable. I’ve given up on McNeil being a consistent impact factor offensively and sounds like the Mets new regime are not going to treat him as sacred for the whole season.
impeccable mcneil timing - after that homer he's now hitting .244 and ops at .668. 3 xbh in 2 days so hopefully he's getting into the vibe too.
He’s killed the bottom half of the lineup at times this year. Keith has really been hammering him at times in games with his approach and body control in at bats. I’ve heard he’s stubborn and self reliant on wanting his own approach at plate but him and Chavez seem to have good rapport so I don’t know what gives.
Also either Lindor is hiding an upper body injury or he’s simply in a mental funk at the plate. I know it won’t happen but I’d sit him down for 1-2 games.
have age/injury zapped him of power he couldnt afford to lose? his avg exit velocity is the same but i think that's a legitimate concern.
lindor hasnt been great but he also appears to be very lucky at the same time. based on the contact he's made his batting average is expected to be above .260 and his slug% is right around .450, both right around his career averages. his avg ev is down 2 mph from his career average though, so to be clear he has also not made enough hard contact.
I’m hoping Marte can squeeze enough juice out where Stearns can pull a discount Scherzer/Verlander strategy and eat some money into next season to move him.
I’m hoping Marte can squeeze enough juice out where Stearns can pull a discount Scherzer/Verlander strategy and eat some money into next season to move him.
Anyway we slice it, we need to see more from Marte in the next two months. That's for sure.
another eppler glue factory special.
another eppler glue factory special.
He should have gotten his body in front of it. Check it out on Mets Fast Forward if you guys can. I'm confident Alvarez would have at least tried to use his body to block it. Hopefully Narvaez is gone in a month (or less). Nido has earned a spot on this team as Alvy's back-up.
I’m hoping Marte can squeeze enough juice out where Stearns can pull a discount Scherzer/Verlander strategy and eat some money into next season to move him.
agree on both. if there is any selling window on marte even if it's for basically nothing like escobar last year, they have to take it. just get rid of the roster block. at some point gilbert will be knocking on the door, and there's an argument already that taylor/stewart would at least be comparable offensively and better on D.
Any chance that moving Alonso, Quintana, Severino, JDM, Marte (even if money is retained), Ottavino would get them close?
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he is hitting .158 and his xba is .180. his slg is .193. defense negative value as well.
another eppler glue factory special.
He should have gotten his body in front of it. Check it out on Mets Fast Forward if you guys can. I'm confident Alvarez would have at least tried to use his body to block it. Hopefully Narvaez is gone in a month (or less). Nido has earned a spot on this team as Alvy's back-up.
Narvaez should be gone today. I'm not being hyperbolic, he has been that bad. Michael Perez was better. Austin Allen has an 850 ops at cuse. give him a chance. he can be half as bad in the big leagues and still be twice as good as narvaez has been.
Any chance that moving Alonso, Quintana, Severino, JDM, Marte (even if money is retained), Ottavino would get them close?
it's possible, they got close last year, but the lottery of course screwed them.
they need to get rid of narvaez and everyone else not pulling their weight by Friday, also not sure i agree that they are taking all these good at bats. the last 2 days were better but that's not the highest bar.
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The #Mets struck out 29 times & walked just 5 times against the Guardians over the three game series on the road.
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i didnt see it but i heard at some point during broadcast that they have played 1-run games in something like 28 games and it seems like they have lost at least 10 of those in a row.
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they need to get rid of narvaez and everyone else not pulling their weight by Friday, also not sure i agree that they are taking all these good at bats. the last 2 days were better but that's not the highest bar.
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The #Mets struck out 29 times & walked just 5 times against the Guardians over the three game series on the road.
I'm trying not to say anything until they reach the third of the way mark of the season after 54 games have been played, but since they're almost there I may as well vent a little. Carlos Mendoza seems to be a "meh" kinda manager so far. I have no problem being patient with him, but I don't see anything about him that stands out.
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And also only 3 games out of a wild card spot.
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The #Mets currently have the 6th best odds at the 2025 #1 draft pick
And also only 3 games out of a wild card spot.
Ridiculous, ain't it?
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listening to mendoza now, he's kind of apoplectic. says he likes the effort, the urgency is there, and they are taking some good at bats so then someone asked the obvious why arent things turning around? his answer was they need to look at everything and regroup as a coaching staff.
they need to get rid of narvaez and everyone else not pulling their weight by Friday, also not sure i agree that they are taking all these good at bats. the last 2 days were better but that's not the highest bar.
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The #Mets struck out 29 times & walked just 5 times against the Guardians over the three game series on the road.
I'm trying not to say anything until they reach the third of the way mark of the season after 54 games have been played, but since they're almost there I may as well vent a little. Carlos Mendoza seems to be a "meh" kinda manager so far. I have no problem being patient with him, but I don't see anything about him that stands out.
he seems likable and honest, i havent had any issues with his in-game decisions, but the results are the results so i agree. they have played below their skill level defensively and have now lost a bunch of series in a row to the point where even without the diaz collapses they'd be under .500.
This has been the knock on the Mets for a while. One of the reasons I was excited about the Mendoza hire after hearing how he had a militant type of approach with the players/game. I really felt like he would assert the presence and hard-nosed approach that we need from a leader. Get players working hard and hold them accountable. But now it seems like he is just another coach afraid to be tough with his players.
This team needs an asshole. And not squirrelly, malcontent asshole like McNeil. We need a star player with a take-no-shit attitude. Should be easy to find, right…lol
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Despite the outburts in the dugout against water coolers and iPads by Dieckmann, or however you spell his name, and Ottavino respectively, it doesn't seem like this club is all that bothered by losing. Lackadaisical fielding in the OF, boneheaded baserunning, and outright laziness (see Narvaez today) are all evidence of how much this team really cares.
This has been the knock on the Mets for a while. One of the reasons I was excited about the Mendoza hire after hearing how he had a militant type of approach with the players/game. I really felt like he would assert the presence and hard-nosed approach that we need from a leader. Get players working hard and hold them accountable. But now it seems like he is just another coach afraid to be tough with his players.
This team needs an asshole. And not squirrelly, malcontent asshole like McNeil. We need a star player with a take-no-shit attitude. Should be easy to find, right…lol
"Mendy" seems fine with Lindor hugging the other team's players when they reach 2nd and taking a bow in the field despite hitting below the Mendoza Line (pun intended). Say what you want about Davey Johnson and Bobby Valentine, but those guys made their marks IMMEDIATELY on the Mets teams they managed. They were large and in charge, as Ryan O'Reilly described Adebisi from Oz (sorry, had to go there, lol). I'm not comparing him to Luis Rojas, but he's a lot closer to him right now than the guys I mentioned.
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Despite the outburts in the dugout against water coolers and iPads by Dieckmann, or however you spell his name, and Ottavino respectively, it doesn't seem like this club is all that bothered by losing. Lackadaisical fielding in the OF, boneheaded baserunning, and outright laziness (see Narvaez today) are all evidence of how much this team really cares.
This has been the knock on the Mets for a while. One of the reasons I was excited about the Mendoza hire after hearing how he had a militant type of approach with the players/game. I really felt like he would assert the presence and hard-nosed approach that we need from a leader. Get players working hard and hold them accountable. But now it seems like he is just another coach afraid to be tough with his players.
This team needs an asshole. And not squirrelly, malcontent asshole like McNeil. We need a star player with a take-no-shit attitude. Should be easy to find, right…lol
"Mendy" seems fine with Lindor hugging the other team's players when they reach 2nd and taking a bow in the field despite hitting below the Mendoza Line (pun intended). Say what you want about Davey Johnson and Bobby Valentine, but those guys made their marks IMMEDIATELY on the Mets teams they managed. They were large and in charge, as Ryan O'Reilly described Adebisi from Oz (sorry, had to go there, lol). I'm not comparing him to Luis Rojas, but he's a lot closer to him right now than the guys I mentioned.
Hard to believe they would jettison Mendoza so early, but as they say, you can't fire the players...though you can dump them at the trade deadline.
But, this team seems to be going through the motions. Pete has to be thinking he'll be elsewhere next year, Marte, Quintana, and others also must wonder where they'll be after the trade deadline.
I am not much of a Lindor fan, though I try (with only limited success!) not to express these feeling on these threads as it's pointless.
But, Optimus, I too have never liked his congeniality with opposing players (where's Bob Gibson when you need him!), and his celebration when that play was overturned was just weird....
Lotta baseball left, but it's getting late early.
I don't know if any of you guys saw "Winning Time" or not, but Pat Riley was seen as one of the guys by those early 80s Lakers teams until he had enough of the fraternization with the guys who played for him. They though he was still one of them. Mendoza had better get away from the mindset of being a nice little helper to being the Head Mofo in charge (remember THIS scene from "Stand By Me" with the late, great Robert Guillaume and Morgan Freeman? lol).
These guys are stepping all over him through their thoughtless play. It's either that or something else---something even worse: he's okay with that. He needs to make a statement, either through the help of the font office, or initiating it himself. This is his shot at sitting in the big chair. He may not get another. The world needs 3rd base coaches too...
narvaez should be dfa'd. he has been awful. there are only 2 players in MLB who have been bigger negative values to their teams with fewer games played, so per game played it is close to accurate to say he has been the 3rd biggest anchor in all MLB. he is not just below replacement level, he is counter productive to winning. find a gary sanchez or promote austin allen. or find michael perez' phone number.
baty probably should go down to the minors just to get his groove back. having him on the bench doesnt do much. iglesias probably more useful (he was 3/5 with 4 rbis in cuse, hitting near .300 with an 800 ops, his D still looked good in ST).
houser should obviously be replaced by peterson.
no easy answer, as has often been the case something seems broken in the clubhouse. if there's a team out there looking to make an aggressive move early a la araez for one of their rentals, the mets should be listening.
JUST MY OPINION but I believe most of the time it's not like football or hockey where you have systems and plays and a lot of influence over the results.
I acknowledge pitching changes, pinch hitters, etc. but people 2nd guessed Tony La Russa and Joe McCarthy, they'll second guess anyone.
I do feel like coaches (hitting and pitching) can do damage if they tinker with things and force players out of their skill set and comfort zone, but less so IMO for managers.
I blame the players mostly for under-performing.
All that said, I would have Beltran as manager. The Mets showed no spine firing him and the Red Sox quickly added Cora back first chance they got but the Mets who have had another hiring cycle since Beltran did not.
Having said that, I woulda had no problem whatsoever hiring Beltran in hi place this past off-season. The present bench coach--John Gibbons--ain't exactly chopped liver either. There are other options out there if he doesn't get his act together come the end of the 2025 season, or een during the summer of next season if this continues.
I think Beltran took a lesser FO role this year bc he didn’t want to travel or something like that - I think martino also reported he didn’t have interest in managing.
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Cohen needs to spend his fortune on the player evaluation and scouting departments. Mets scouts should be all over Central America and Venezuela and every high school and college league that takes baseball seriously. Other teams know how to identify talent year after year. The Mets need to do the same. The fanbase will wait for a home-grown winner to develop. They've waited this long.
Explore any trade offer at the deadline, no one is expendable. I know some may be untradeable due to contracts (Lindor, Diaz, Marte), but I’d listen just the same.
here we can see vientos (blue), compared to the mets 2 other power righties alonso (orange) and jdm (red). you can see all 3 have higher hard hit rates than league average by 1-2%, with JDM swinging the most while making the most frequent hard contact (~5%) with bat speeds close to league average, and Alonso making slightly less frequent hard contact (~4%) but with the highest bat speeds. Vientos distribution is right in the middle which is a great sign. this year is small sample but in his first 2 years over larger samples vientos' hard hit rate and exit velo were actually higher than this year's, so i would imagine his chart would look the same over his whole career and maybe even better.
baty is the green line, you can see he swings fast but just doesn't make hard contact frequently. though perhaps encouraging is that on the top end of the chart all the way to the right, he made the most contact at the highest swing speeds. so he has raw talent, it needs to unlock somehow.
would almost prefer to get rid of marte somehow and get DJS in RF for the defense and the lefty bat to break things up. think my lineup would be:
nimmo
alonso
lindor
JDM
vientos
alvarez
mcneil
bader
stewart / marte