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New York Giants OTA Updates - Day Three (Media Access)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 7:12 am

Thursday, May 23

OTA #3 Access

Approx. 9:45 a.m. -- Defensive Assistants Available

Approx. 10:00 a.m. -- Head Coach Brian Daboll Available

10:15 a.m. – 12:15 p.m. -- Practice

Approx. 12:30 p.m. -- Players Available

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:16 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
Daniel Jones says he has no doubt he will be ready for Week 1, and he was extremely open and honest about all the #Giants’ QB work this offseason and his current position. Admitted he “wasn’t fired up” about the potential of NG drafting a QB on draft night, but he IS excited about Malik Nabers’ addition to the offense.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:17 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Little edge from Daniel Jones here. Looked good in 7/7 today, moved well. Asked directly about #NYGiants pursuit of QB prospects, Jones says he “wasn’t fired up” at the possibility.
https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793675754716418530 - ( New Window )
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:18 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daniel Jones isn’t wearing a brace on his knee and has no doubt he’ll be ready for Week 1. Jones admitted he “wasn’t fired up about” the Giants’ interest in QBs in the draft. He said his mindset is that he always has something to prove so nothing has changed.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:18 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Thibs: “Burns has a lot of things that will help my game”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:18 pm : link
Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Kayvon Thibodeaux jokes as he approaches podium: “Every year I’m here, I’m going for Michael Strahan’s record.” #NYGiants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:19 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Kayvon Thibodeaux feels like its ‘now or never’ to maximize his ability and potential.

‘Its about gaining that respect throughout the league’
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:19 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Thibs: “Greatness is optional, I need to take the next step”
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:19 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Tommy Devito threw a laser over middle to a sliding Bryce Ford Wheaton and hit a deep ball to Jalin Hyatt #Giants
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Finch : 5/23/2024 12:21 pm : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
Andrew Thomas and Evan Neal didn’t work in team drills today, so you kinda expect this, but Brian Burns was a menace.

I had him with three would-be (obvious) sacks. He came around Ezeudu so fast on one play he tapped Lock on the butt before throwing his hand up to celebrate.

Kayvon Thibodeaux also had a sack.
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Bill in UT : 5/23/2024 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16523127 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Tommy Devito threw a laser over middle to a sliding Bryce Ford Wheaton and hit a deep ball to Jalin Hyatt #Giants


How bizarre would that be?
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FranknWeezer : 5/23/2024 12:24 pm : link
In comment 16523117 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Little edge from Daniel Jones here. Looked good in 7/7 today, moved well. Asked directly about #NYGiants pursuit of QB prospects, Jones says he “wasn’t fired up” at the possibility. https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793675754716418530 - ( New Window )


Strange. Watched that twice and he never uses the phrase "wasn't fired up." Maybe Art flubbed which clip he posted.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:29 pm : link
Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
Flott said he’s currently at 177. Said he feels good moving around.
Neal has played 20 games thus far  
djm : 5/23/2024 12:29 pm : link
and been injured during some of those games. That's not an excuse, more an explanation. Doesn't mean he's about to embark on a good or great career but being bad those first 20 also doesn't mean he's a bust. Not yet.

For perspective, go look at Jumbo Elliot's first 20 games. Even take a QB like Eli Manning and tell me how he was perceived after 20 games. Better yet tell me about Eli after his first 25-30 games when he was shutout at home in a playoff game and everyone was convinced he would never win big games or never win on the road.

Players get better with reps. The key to finding those steals or good players that sort of come out of nowhere to me, the number one rule--is that guy getting reps and time in the NFL. IF he is, there's reasons for hope. Practice makes perfect. It's an old adage but so true.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:30 pm : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
#Giants just wrapped up their first media-open OTA.

The highlight: Long touchdown to Malik Nabers.

Drew Lock hit him on the deep shot. He got behind both Pinnick & Flott. Just a glimpse into what #NYG hope Nabers can bring.

Of note: There was pressure on the play. Lock might have been sacked, but it’s a padless OTA, so give him the TD.

Of extra note: That was really the only highlight for Lock. He did not perform well in team drills. I had him 10 of 20 with several misfires.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:31 pm : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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“I wasn’t fired up about it.”

Daniel Jones on the #Giants pursuit of a quarterback in the #NFLDraft. New York aggressively tried to trade up with the #Patriots to get QB Drake Maye

Said he didn’t talk to Brian Daboll, Joe Schoen about it after New York picked Malik Nabers.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:31 pm : link
Connor Hughes
@Connor_J_Hughes
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#Giants edge Brian Burns said he doesn’t know how many sacks he had today — needs to watch the film. He added there are some touchdowns that need to come off the board, though.

I had Burns at three
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:33 pm : link
Dan Salomone
@Dan_Salomone
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Brian Burns said Dexter Lawrence truly has a “gift” in terms of his size and athleticism. He’s also very “clever. … He has a lot of tricks that he picked up along the way. His IQ is second to none.”
by steals  
djm : 5/23/2024 12:33 pm : link
I mean those players who sort of turn into good players after being labeled as bad.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:33 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
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#Giants Brian Burns says a pivotal point in his career was when Haason Reddick came to the #Panthers in his 3rd year and they began competing. He is trying to be that for Kayvon Thibodeax in his Year 3.

Burns and Reddick (with #Jets now) are going to get together soon to train
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UberAlias : 5/23/2024 12:34 pm : link
In comment 16522915 Eric from BBI said:
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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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DL Coach Andre Patterson said he’s been doing some work with the OLBs this year. Change from last year.
Thank you. It was a mistake not letting him get his hands on Thibs before.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 12:36 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Brian Burns looked like arguably the best player on the field today.

What does that mean a May OTA?

He admits nothing. Training camp a better indication of whats to come
#Giants
Why do they still have a 3rd round OG (Ezudu) taking reps at OLT?  
David B. : 5/23/2024 1:00 pm : link
He's hasn't even proven he's a guard yet.
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ZogZerg : 5/23/2024 1:01 pm : link
In comment 16523138 FranknWeezer said:
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Art Stapleton
@art_stapleton
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Little edge from Daniel Jones here. Looked good in 7/7 today, moved well. Asked directly about #NYGiants pursuit of QB prospects, Jones says he “wasn’t fired up” at the possibility. https://x.com/art_stapleton/status/1793675754716418530 - ( New Window )



Strange. Watched that twice and he never uses the phrase "wasn't fired up." Maybe Art flubbed which clip he posted.


see link
I wasn't fired up about it - ( New Window )
RE: Why do they still have a 3rd round OG (Ezudu) taking reps at OLT?  
Mike in NY : 5/23/2024 1:05 pm : link
In comment 16523194 David B. said:
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He's hasn't even proven he's a guard yet.


Thomas has an injury history so the Giants are seeing which of the back-ups is the best option in the new scheme to play LT. I am sure we will see others getting reps there during camp when Thomas takes time off.
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Mike in NY : 5/23/2024 1:07 pm : link
In comment 16523160 UberAlias said:
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Patricia Traina
@Patricia_Traina
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DL Coach Andre Patterson said he’s been doing some work with the OLBs this year. Change from last year.

Thank you. It was a mistake not letting him get his hands on Thibs before.


Especially when you have someone of Patterson's reputation it would be idiotic to freeze him out. Perhaps that was also some of the issue with Wink and his bosom buddy Wilkins.
RE: Why do they still have a 3rd round OG (Ezudu) taking reps at OLT?  
Blue Dog : 5/23/2024 1:18 pm : link
In comment 16523194 David B. said:
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He's hasn't even proven he's a guard yet.


Neal and Thomas not doing team drills.
RE: RE: these clips from SNY are from an hour ago  
M.S. : 5/23/2024 1:33 pm : link
In comment 16523104 Amtoft said:
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Giants Videos
@SNYGiants
Kayvon Thibodeaux and Brian Burns go through a drill at Giants practice https://x.com/SNYGiants/status/1793653328913539385 - ( New Window )



Man Thibs, Burns, and Dex this year... I don't think people realize what a difference this is going to make.

How well will these 2 guys anchor on off-tackle runs?
RE: Why do they still have a 3rd round OG (Ezudu) taking reps at OLT?  
BillT : 5/23/2024 1:44 pm : link
In comment 16523194 David B. said:
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He's hasn't even proven he's a guard yet.

Ezudu played some LT in college. Having a decent backup LT is pretty important. As it seems Eluemunor is playing LG it frees up Ezudu to get reps as a backup tackle.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:45 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Its going to be a looooooooong few months if this is how people react to every Daniel Jones update.

Not picking on this one guy. Its hundreds of replies like this to every DJ update

Yes, all that matters is the games. But there are no games now. So how he moves, how he compares to the other #Giants QBs, his rapport with Nabers etc. is what matters.

Every May update cant be framed as ‘Hes moving well after ACL surgery but if he throws 2 INTs vs Vikings then bench him.’

He has a chip on his shoulder. He played above-average with a chip in 2022.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:46 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Disclaimer about OTAs being voluntary and some players could have been in the facility rehabbing. Here are the players I didn’t spot today: WR Darius Slayton, WR Isaiah McKenzie, TE Darren Waller, TE Daniel Bellinger, DL Jordan Phillips, DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL Timmy Horne.

These players were on the side: OL Evan Neal, OL Matt Nelson, LB Isaiah Simmons, OLB Benton Whitley, CB Aaron Robinson.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:46 pm : link
The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
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Some observations from OTA:
-Dane Belton got a lot of reps with 1s
-Ryder Anderson reps next to Dex.
-Wan’Dale and Jalin Hyatt with deep grabs
-Tae Banks nice PD
-Theo Johnson with nice reception from Lock.
-Drew Lock very inconsistent.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:47 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Replying to
@PLeonardNYDN
Andrew Thomas didn't take team reps today. Josh Ezeudu played left tackle. And Brian Burns was lighting him up. I asked Burns if he counted how many sacks he had:

"Nah. I count them on film. They had some touchdowns they gotta take back, though," he said
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:47 pm : link
Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
My #NyGiants takeaways from first OTA practice:
- Daniel Jones looked smooth moving around on his surgically repaired knee.
- Pump the brakes on any QB controversy. Heard DJ looked has been the sharper QB so far this offseason and Drew Lock's inaccuracy today reinforced it. DJ was QB1 in 7-on-7. Lock QB1 in 11-on-11 (no reps for DJ).
- LT Andrew Thomas took no team reps. Seems like that was the case in earlier OTAs, too. Load management? RT Evan Neal is with the rehab group.
- It's hard to believe that Josh Ezeudu is in line to be the swing OT again after struggling last year. I'd like to let him develop at OG -- compete to start or be the swing OG. But Jermaine Eluemunor was starting at RG and OT Matt Nelson was with the rehab group. Ezeudu next up.
- Why is Jon Runyan at RG instead of LG? First, it could be a day-to-day switch. But my broader understanding is that #Giants look at pairing up LT-LG and RT-RG. They are weaker on the right side, so put the better RG there.
- The DL depth is lacking on paper. I've been saying that since the draft. It was more startling today when Rakeem Nunez-Roches and Jordan Phillips were not here (voluntary). Big opportunity for Jordon Riley.
- No sign of Daniel Bellinger, either. Big spring for him with Darren Waller not here/likely to retire.
- Eric Gray got some RB1 snaps in up-tempo 11-on-11.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:47 pm : link
Pat Leonard
@PLeonardNYDN
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Most encouraging thing about #Giants practice today was that Malik Nabers was open on almost every 11-on-11 route he ran
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 1:48 pm : link
Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Notable difference from last offseason: Last year, the Giants didn't do a single 11-on-11 period in the practices open to the media; it was all 7-on-7.

Today's practice featured a 7-on-7 period early and then extensive 11-on-11 work. Linemen aren't wearing pads, but at least they're getting reps in a game-like setting this spring.
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BigBlue7 : 5/23/2024 1:49 pm : link
In comment 16523234 Eric from BBI said:
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Ryan Dunleavy
@rydunleavy
Its going to be a looooooooong few months if this is how people react to every Daniel Jones update.

Not picking on this one guy. Its hundreds of replies like this to every DJ update

Yes, all that matters is the games. But there are no games now. So how he moves, how he compares to the other #Giants QBs, his rapport with Nabers etc. is what matters.

Every May update cant be framed as ‘Hes moving well after ACL surgery but if he throws 2 INTs vs Vikings then bench him.’

He has a chip on his shoulder. He played above-average with a chip in 2022.


I'd rather he have a chip in his brain that helped him process defenses post-snap
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gersh : 5/23/2024 1:50 pm : link
In comment 16523120 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
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Daniel Jones isn’t wearing a brace on his knee and has no doubt he’ll be ready for Week 1. Jones admitted he “wasn’t fired up about” the Giants’ interest in QBs in the draft. He said his mindset is that he always has something to prove so nothing has changed.


Isn't it odd that he's not even wearing a brace?
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GoDeep13 : 5/23/2024 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16522977 Eric from BBI said:
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Riley has trimmed down a bit

He and Gervarrius Owens are the two guys I'm quietly very hyped about. I liked what I saw from them in short spurts and think they can be real players.
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Blue Dog : 5/23/2024 1:59 pm : link
In comment 16523235 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Disclaimer about OTAs being voluntary and some players could have been in the facility rehabbing. Here are the players I didn’t spot today: WR Darius Slayton, WR Isaiah McKenzie, TE Darren Waller, TE Daniel Bellinger, DL Jordan Phillips, DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL Timmy Horne.

These players were on the side: OL Evan Neal, OL Matt Nelson, LB Isaiah Simmons, OLB Benton Whitley, CB Aaron Robinson.


Not great that Matt Nelson isn't out there. Figuring out swing tackle is important, especially if Thomas and Neal are not 100%. Ezeudu doesn't seem like the answer.
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Amtoft : 5/23/2024 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16523254 Blue Dog said:
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Dan Duggan
@DDuggan21
Disclaimer about OTAs being voluntary and some players could have been in the facility rehabbing. Here are the players I didn’t spot today: WR Darius Slayton, WR Isaiah McKenzie, TE Darren Waller, TE Daniel Bellinger, DL Jordan Phillips, DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL Timmy Horne.

These players were on the side: OL Evan Neal, OL Matt Nelson, LB Isaiah Simmons, OLB Benton Whitley, CB Aaron Robinson.



Not great that Matt Nelson isn't out there. Figuring out swing tackle is important, especially if Thomas and Neal are not 100%. Ezeudu doesn't seem like the answer.


I would rather Neal play LT than Ezeudu... He is brutal... Yes I know Neal didn't do 11 on 11s also.
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gersh : 5/23/2024 2:01 pm : link
In comment 16523253 GoDeep13 said:
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Riley has trimmed down a bit



He and Gervarrius Owens are the two guys I'm quietly very hyped about. I liked what I saw from them in short spurts and think they can be real players.


I agree
Over the years I've learned to trust what I see, rather than what I hear.
I think Owens will be a contributor this year
I think both DJ and Riley will also be solid
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Blue Dog : 5/23/2024 2:03 pm : link
In comment 16522977 Eric from BBI said:
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The Giant Insider Podcast and Newspaper
@GiantInsider
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Riley has trimmed down a bit



Pointed this out the other day, but relevant here and I think pic confirms it - giants.com now lists him at 315lbs, his combine weight was 338lbs. Normally you can't really trust the website numbers but a few who have seen him have made comments about his weight at this point.
Ezeudu at LT  
5BowlsSoon : 5/23/2024 2:06 pm : link
Yikes!

Well, I guess the coaches are either giving up on him being a guard or they feel we need more tackles and we already have enough guards.
RE: Ezeudu at LT  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 2:08 pm : link
In comment 16523262 5BowlsSoon said:
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Yikes!

Well, I guess the coaches are either giving up on him being a guard or they feel we need more tackles and we already have enough guards.


Did you read the notes above????

Our starting LT sat out. Our primary swing-tackle was playing his normal starting spot (wouldn't in a real game) and the back-up swing tackle (Nelson) was on the sidelines.

Pay attention.
Pictures  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 2:10 pm : link
from OTA #3....
📸 Practice Photos: Best of OTA No. 3 - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Ezeudu at LT  
Amtoft : 5/23/2024 2:11 pm : link
In comment 16523265 Eric from BBI said:
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Yikes!

Well, I guess the coaches are either giving up on him being a guard or they feel we need more tackles and we already have enough guards.



Did you read the notes above????

Our starting LT sat out. Our primary swing-tackle was playing his normal starting spot (wouldn't in a real game) and the back-up swing tackle (Nelson) was on the sidelines.

Pay attention.


Yep and that means that he was running with the 1s at LT... doesn't look like they are giving up on him at all.
Singletary and Nabers  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 2:13 pm : link
Jones  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 2:14 pm : link
Owens and Pinnock  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/23/2024 2:14 pm : link
If Thomas, Neal, Nelson  
Jaenyg : 5/23/2024 2:14 pm : link
Are not participating in team drills today for one reason or another, that leaves only Miles, Cajuste, M. Johnson at OT.

Ezeudu was prob the only option.
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