just not sure what direction the Nets want to go. The smart thing is obviously to blow it up.
The best case for the Nets is the Rockets want Bridges so they can get their picks back but after Jalen Green's emergence to end the year who really knows.
If not I guess they sort of have to just try to get better?
Yeah the Nets are confusing, their owner says he wants a long term build but their GM always talks about adding stars
I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG
I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG
I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
I jist cant see Mitchell signing long term in Cleveland unless they trade for a star, he kNows him and Garland doesnt work and he knows the Mobely/Allen frontcourt doesnt work..
They traded their future firsts in the Mitchell deal, i just dont see Mitchell staying there
If I had to bet, Mitchell reups with the Cavs & then asks for a trade in 2025 or so.
thats the thing though, he doesnt need to re up, he has another year after thisbyesr if he wants it and getting traded now his bird rights go with him, he isnt getting anymore money signing with Cleceland
It’s kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
It’s kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
Yup, he is flashy so he will get the highlights on espn and hyoed up by wanna be analysts but if you sit down and watch him play, he has a lot of holes..
and his biggest issue? The fact he is a front running nozzle, dances on the court and talks a lot when he is winning but when the team needs him or is losing, he is nowhere to be found
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
Man, I hate the Celtics, but I am happy to see the Pacers gone.
You had Pacers fans and other non-Knicks fans and pundits trying to say the Knicks' injuries can't be an excuse; they are part of the game. Then Haliburton hurts his hammy and it's an excuse. For the Knicks, it wasn't one injury. It was 4 or 5 or 6. For all the talk about Thibs not playing the bench, the options on the bench really shrunk as the year went on. They lost their starting C in the first month. They lost their All Star PF mid-way, just when they were rolling. They lost Brunson for a couple of small stretches and he was banged up for most of the post season. They lost their newly acquired SF for a number of games due to a pre-existing injury that required surgery and then lost him for the remainder of the Pacers series essentially, then lost their former 6th man thrust into a critical starting role at the end of that series, and then lost Brunson likely for the remainder of the post season if they continued. Not to mention, Bogdonavich lost for the playoffs also. How are you supposed to overcome ALL of those injuries?
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Knicks need to find a dhnamic partner for Brunson, i like Randle i just dont think he is the dynamic scorer to play off of Brunson, especially in the playoffs..
I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
I think Sexton could potentially be a good fit here. And you kick the can forward in terms of having another mid sized contract on the books to use down the road. I think Utah will want at least one unprotected pick for him though.
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
Knicks need to find a dhnamic partner for Brunson, i like Randle i just dont think he is the dynamic scorer to play off of Brunson, especially in the playoffs..
I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
I'm leaning towards rolling the dice on Mitchell - and paying what would certainly be a big price to get him. To me he moves the needle a LOT more than a guy like Bridges. Ideally we get him without giving up Randle and DVD/Hart. But I don't know if that's possible. And Cleveland, if they decide to trade him, is likely going to prioritize getting a wing in return.
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
as an org don't appear to be in any hurry to contend (for now). Seems like Ainge can take his time and tread water. So if the offers don't blow him away he can hold onto Sexton until his deal expires in 25/26.
I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
I don’t think anyone is giving that either. But what incentive does Ainge have to trade away Sexton unless it’s for a significant overpay?
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
Stretch it out and the main buyer then can’t offer you anything which I don’t think makes sense.
playing for Thibs Butler's first few years in the league. He swears Thibs made Butler what he is. Was real tough on him, made him earn every minute. It sounds like a tough love kind of thing. Butler is a horrific fit for this team right now. He doesn't buy into that give it 100% every night especially in the regular season dog mentality at all. Plus I do not seeing him meshing well with another ball dominant superstar like Brunson at all.
RE: Brian Scalabrine was a scrub on the Bulls team when Butler was a kid
playing for Thibs Butler's first few years in the league. He swears Thibs made Butler what he is. Was real tough on him, made him earn every minute. It sounds like a tough love kind of thing. Butler is a horrific fit for this team right now. He doesn't buy into that give it 100% every night especially in the regular season dog mentality at all. Plus I do not seeing him meshing well with another ball dominant superstar like Brunson at all.
Butler is the definition of dog mentality, does he pace himself? 100% but if the Knicks want to make a run to a championship they are going to have to start pacing themselves as well..
and thats not me blaming Thibs for anything, last year was a crazy year with injuries but if this team wants to get to where they want and are as good as we hope, they need to atart pacing themselves especially towards the end of the year
Yeah Jimmy "pacing himself" has landed the Heat in the play-in
would be a terrible decision. Butler and the Heat are done. Butler's next important role will be as a veteran role player for a good team. He's not a lead dog anymore.
The best case for the Nets is the Rockets want Bridges so they can get their picks back but after Jalen Green's emergence to end the year who really knows.
If not I guess they sort of have to just try to get better?
Yeah the Nets are confusing, their owner says he wants a long term build but their GM always talks about adding stars
I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
Mitchell-Ingram-Mobley is an interesting core as is Garland-Trey-Herb-Zion
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I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG
I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
I jist cant see Mitchell signing long term in Cleveland unless they trade for a star, he kNows him and Garland doesnt work and he knows the Mobely/Allen frontcourt doesnt work..
They traded their future firsts in the Mitchell deal, i just dont see Mitchell staying there
Definitely would need to add another 3 and d wing but i think you can absolutely make it work, especially offensively
thats the thing though, he doesnt need to re up, he has another year after thisbyesr if he wants it and getting traded now his bird rights go with him, he isnt getting anymore money signing with Cleceland
Knicks get bridges
ATL gets Randle and Finney Smith
BK gets Trae Young
Also saw Randle and a pick as well as a future pick swap for Markkenan.
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Also if needed they will trade Randle to either save money or in a star trade..
They value OG more than Randle
Tyrese is a liability defensively
Tyrese is a liability defensively
We see a lot of things the same way. Had the same thought about 10 minutes ago.
2). Jaylen Brown smacking TJ McConnell in the face.
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Pacers would be good if they traded Tyrese for a legit 3 and d wing and started nembhard..
Tyrese is a liability defensively
We see a lot of things the same way. Had the same thought about 10 minutes ago.
Its kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
Fucker cost me $300 on my parlay...
They need a 3 and d wing, maybe 2..
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
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It’s kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?
Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
Yup, he is flashy so he will get the highlights on espn and hyoed up by wanna be analysts but if you sit down and watch him play, he has a lot of holes..
and his biggest issue? The fact he is a front running nozzle, dances on the court and talks a lot when he is winning but when the team needs him or is losing, he is nowhere to be found
Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
I think Sexton could potentially be a good fit here. And you kick the can forward in terms of having another mid sized contract on the books to use down the road. I think Utah will want at least one unprotected pick for him though.
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
I'm leaning towards rolling the dice on Mitchell - and paying what would certainly be a big price to get him. To me he moves the needle a LOT more than a guy like Bridges. Ideally we get him without giving up Randle and DVD/Hart. But I don't know if that's possible. And Cleveland, if they decide to trade him, is likely going to prioritize getting a wing in return.
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.
He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
I don’t think anyone is giving that either. But what incentive does Ainge have to trade away Sexton unless it’s for a significant overpay?
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I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
I don’t think anyone is giving that either. But what incentive does Ainge have to trade away Sexton unless it’s for a significant overpay?
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
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Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
Stretch it out and the main buyer then can’t offer you anything which I don’t think makes sense.
Stretch it out and the main buyer then can’t offer you anything which I don’t think makes sense.
What makes the Knicks the main buyer? And in any case: the Knicks were the main buyer for Mitchell and you see how that worked out.
Ant not looking great either
Ant not looking great either
Get ready for the rumors of Kat to the Knicks
On and off the court he is a fit, he has played for Thibs before, he has that same mentality as the Nova 3, he plays defense, he can score..
He wouldnt be my first choice or even my second choice but if it comes down to it i wouldnt mind it..
Brunson, Divencenzo,Butler, OG, Hartenstein..
Deuce, Hart and Mitch off the bench..
That is a team no one would want to play
In that drunken video he said he loves Thibs but not "in love" with Thjbs
Butler is the definition of dog mentality, does he pace himself? 100% but if the Knicks want to make a run to a championship they are going to have to start pacing themselves as well..
and thats not me blaming Thibs for anything, last year was a crazy year with injuries but if this team wants to get to where they want and are as good as we hope, they need to atart pacing themselves especially towards the end of the year
He has also had to be their best player