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NFT: OG considering other teams

Pete44 : 5/23/2024 1:25 pm
Per Jake Fischer of Yahoo sports, there was a belief at the combine that OG Anunoby will consider other offers.

AJR - please tell us this not true.
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nygiants16 : 5/24/2024 9:41 pm : link

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Despite reports this week casting doubt on a deal between the two sides, sources say that both OG Anunoby’s camp and the New York Knicks expect that an agreement will be reached for the 26-year old to stay in NY.

The Knicks were 27-9 with Anunoby playing including the playoffs
Sounds like the Nets  
nygiants16 : 5/25/2024 2:20 pm : link
are going into a complete rebuild, Joe Tsai said they want to do a "long-term build" more about looking to the future than short term quick fix..

Guess no star hunting for them, ciuld also mean Bridges is available for draft picks
RE: Sounds like the Nets  
Larry in Pencilvania : 5/25/2024 9:53 pm : link
In comment 16524502 nygiants16 said:
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are going into a complete rebuild, Joe Tsai said they want to do a "long-term build" more about looking to the future than short term quick fix..

Guess no star hunting for them, ciuld also mean Bridges is available for draft picks


He's what I don't understand, there's been a bunch of media pushing the idea of Julius and first round picks for just Bridges. The lol Knicks tax and days of bad deals are over. I don't want to hand over a 3 x all star and 2 x all NBA player for a guy who averaged 20ppg in one season.
RE: RE: Sounds like the Nets  
Jon In NYC : 5/26/2024 6:24 am : link
In comment 16524647 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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are going into a complete rebuild, Joe Tsai said they want to do a "long-term build" more about looking to the future than short term quick fix..

Guess no star hunting for them, ciuld also mean Bridges is available for draft picks



He's what I don't understand, there's been a bunch of media pushing the idea of Julius and first round picks for just Bridges. The lol Knicks tax and days of bad deals are over. I don't want to hand over a 3 x all star and 2 x all NBA player for a guy who averaged 20ppg in one season.


Yeah there's no way they're moving Julies for Bridges.

I think the Rockets have to be the overwhelming favorites to get him just because they can send the Nets their picks back.

I do wonder if there is anything we would have the Rockets would want to make it a 3 way trade. On the surface doesn't seem like a great trade partner for us.
Cap wise is it possible for the Knicks to  
Knickstape : 5/26/2024 10:15 am : link
Bring in bridges with Julius staying.

Like if they swing something like Mitch / bogs / 3+ picks for bridges.


Jalen /bridges /og / Randle /Ihart
McBride / Donte/ hart / backup big
RE: Cap wise is it possible for the Knicks to  
nygiants16 : 5/26/2024 11:13 am : link
In comment 16524743 Knickstape said:
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Bring in bridges with Julius staying.

Like if they swing something like Mitch / bogs / 3+ picks for bridges.


Jalen /bridges /og / Randle /Ihart
McBride / Donte/ hart / backup big


yes if they time everything right, thats why everyone expects the Knicks to make their big move this offseason
How about this 3 team trade?  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 9:54 am : link
Knicks get Bridges
Knicks send out: Bojan, Mitch and Deuce

Nets get KAT and Deuce
Nets send Bridges, DFS, Schroeder

Minnesota get Bojan, Mitch, DFS, Schroeder and maybe a couple of draft picks..


Knicks finish their Nova connection and Bridges gets his wish and Knicks dont have to trade Randle..

Nets get a homegrown "star" to build around without giving up all of their picks.

Minnesota trade KAT to save themselves a reidiculous bill and adds cost controlled players that can really help their depth and fit around Edwards..
I also still think Mitchell ends up a knick  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 10:03 am : link
I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG
I'm  
Jon In NYC : 5/27/2024 10:10 am : link
just not sure what direction the Nets want to go. The smart thing is obviously to blow it up.

The best case for the Nets is the Rockets want Bridges so they can get their picks back but after Jalen Green's emergence to end the year who really knows.

If not I guess they sort of have to just try to get better?
RE: I'm  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 10:11 am : link
In comment 16525171 Jon In NYC said:
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just not sure what direction the Nets want to go. The smart thing is obviously to blow it up.

The best case for the Nets is the Rockets want Bridges so they can get their picks back but after Jalen Green's emergence to end the year who really knows.

If not I guess they sort of have to just try to get better?


Yeah the Nets are confusing, their owner says he wants a long term build but their GM always talks about adding stars
RE: I also still think Mitchell ends up a knick  
Jon In NYC : 5/27/2024 10:11 am : link
In comment 16525166 nygiants16 said:
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I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG


I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.
If I am Cleveland and New Orleans  
Jon In NYC : 5/27/2024 10:12 am : link
I'm looking at a Garland for Ingram swap.

Mitchell-Ingram-Mobley is an interesting core as is Garland-Trey-Herb-Zion
RE: RE: I also still think Mitchell ends up a knick  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 10:17 am : link
In comment 16525173 Jon In NYC said:
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I think all the talk of Knicks wont be as agressive is all a smoke screen for when he becomes available, i think their dream scenario was always Brunson, Mitchell and OG



I am very skeptical of this. I think the fit is iffy and both sides know it. Seems like there is really momentum for him to stay and re-tool in Cleveland. Maybe they get Johnny Bryant too.


I jist cant see Mitchell signing long term in Cleveland unless they trade for a star, he kNows him and Garland doesnt work and he knows the Mobely/Allen frontcourt doesnt work..

They traded their future firsts in the Mitchell deal, i just dont see Mitchell staying there
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/27/2024 10:18 am : link
If I had to bet, Mitchell reups with the Cavs & then asks for a trade in 2025 or so.
I think Brons and Mitchell could really make it work  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 10:18 am : link
because both can play off the ball, both can shoot the 3 off the catch very well..

Definitely would need to add another 3 and d wing but i think you can absolutely make it work, especially offensively
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 10:23 am : link
In comment 16525188 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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If I had to bet, Mitchell reups with the Cavs & then asks for a trade in 2025 or so.


thats the thing though, he doesnt need to re up, he has another year after thisbyesr if he wants it and getting traded now his bird rights go with him, he isnt getting anymore money signing with Cleceland
Hope Pacers get swept tonight  
bluefin : 5/27/2024 8:37 pm : link
at home
I saw 2 trade proposals from SI  
Chris684 : 5/27/2024 9:13 pm : link
A 3 way deal involving ATL, Knicks and BK.

Knicks get bridges
ATL gets Randle and Finney Smith
BK gets Trae Young

Also saw Randle and a pick as well as a future pick swap for Markkenan.
Saw something on twitter from Brett Seigel  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 9:24 pm : link
Basically Knicks wont let OG walk if it comes down to it they will give him the max
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Also if needed they will trade Randle to either save money or in a star trade..

They value OG more than Randle
Turner is such a fake tough guy  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 9:43 pm : link
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Hot take  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 10:27 pm : link
Pacers would be good if they traded Tyrese for a legit 3 and d wing and started nembhard..

Tyrese is a liability defensively
RE: Hot take  
bceagle05 : 5/27/2024 10:37 pm : link
In comment 16525482 nygiants16 said:
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Pacers would be good if they traded Tyrese for a legit 3 and d wing and started nembhard..

Tyrese is a liability defensively

We see a lot of things the same way. Had the same thought about 10 minutes ago.
Two favorite playoff moments so far….  
bceagle05 : 5/27/2024 10:39 pm : link
1). Donte’s game-winning three in Game 2 against Philly.
2). Jaylen Brown smacking TJ McConnell in the face.
RE: RE: Hot take  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16525485 bceagle05 said:
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Pacers would be good if they traded Tyrese for a legit 3 and d wing and started nembhard..

Tyrese is a liability defensively


We see a lot of things the same way. Had the same thought about 10 minutes ago.


Its kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?

Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still
RE: Turner is such a fake tough guy  
Anakim : 5/27/2024 10:40 pm : link
In comment 16525460 nygiants16 said:
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Fucker cost me $300 on my parlay...
Pacers need a star  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 10:58 pm : link
who can actually vlose games, not run the offense only looking to pass the ball..

They need a 3 and d wing, maybe 2..

RE: RE: RE: Hot take  
bceagle05 : 5/27/2024 11:07 pm : link
In comment 16525488 nygiants16 said:
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It’s kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?

Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still

And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.
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nygiants16 : 5/27/2024 11:19 pm : link
In comment 16525499 bceagle05 said:
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It’s kind of crazy because Haliburton is a great player but what does he do so much better than Nembhard? passing?

Pacers made it to the ECF bit i feel like they need big changes still


And we saw Sacramento trade him for Sabonis, put the ball in Fox’s hands, and immediately go from bottom feeder to playoff caliber team. My dislike of him aside, he’s a difficult guy to build around - bad defense, no midrange game, not great at the rim, doesn’t get to the FT line.


Yup, he is flashy so he will get the highlights on espn and hyoed up by wanna be analysts but if you sit down and watch him play, he has a lot of holes..

and his biggest issue? The fact he is a front running nozzle, dances on the court and talks a lot when he is winning but when the team needs him or is losing, he is nowhere to be found
Good riddance Indiana  
Stu11 : 5/27/2024 11:22 pm : link
Hope you enjoyed that fake run. Like Atlanta you're not sniffing anything like that the next 5 years and I guarantee we will.
Assuming Bogie  
Jon In NYC : 5/28/2024 8:57 am : link
doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.

Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.
Man, I hate the Celtics, but I am happy to see the Pacers gone.  
Matt M. : 5/28/2024 9:39 am : link
You had Pacers fans and other non-Knicks fans and pundits trying to say the Knicks' injuries can't be an excuse; they are part of the game. Then Haliburton hurts his hammy and it's an excuse. For the Knicks, it wasn't one injury. It was 4 or 5 or 6. For all the talk about Thibs not playing the bench, the options on the bench really shrunk as the year went on. They lost their starting C in the first month. They lost their All Star PF mid-way, just when they were rolling. They lost Brunson for a couple of small stretches and he was banged up for most of the post season. They lost their newly acquired SF for a number of games due to a pre-existing injury that required surgery and then lost him for the remainder of the Pacers series essentially, then lost their former 6th man thrust into a critical starting role at the end of that series, and then lost Brunson likely for the remainder of the post season if they continued. Not to mention, Bogdonavich lost for the playoffs also. How are you supposed to overcome ALL of those injuries?
RE: Assuming Bogie  
bceagle05 : 5/28/2024 10:46 am : link
In comment 16525575 Jon In NYC said:
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.

He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.
Watching these playoffs  
nygiants16 : 5/28/2024 11:41 am : link
Knicks need to find a dhnamic partner for Brunson, i like Randle i just dont think he is the dynamic scorer to play off of Brunson, especially in the playoffs..

I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo
RE: RE: Assuming Bogie  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/28/2024 12:00 pm : link
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.


He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.

Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?
RE: Assuming Bogie  
Enzo : 5/28/2024 12:01 pm : link
In comment 16525575 Jon In NYC said:
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.

Steps right into the IQ role that they never really replaced. Hes a character but I think he fits into the mentality of this team.

I think Sexton could potentially be a good fit here. And you kick the can forward in terms of having another mid sized contract on the books to use down the road. I think Utah will want at least one unprotected pick for him though.
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Jon In NYC : 5/28/2024 12:05 pm : link
In comment 16525708 Jim in Fairfax said:
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.


He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.


Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?


It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.
RE: Watching these playoffs  
Enzo : 5/28/2024 12:05 pm : link
In comment 16525697 nygiants16 said:
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Knicks need to find a dhnamic partner for Brunson, i like Randle i just dont think he is the dynamic scorer to play off of Brunson, especially in the playoffs..

I know the fit is iffy defensively but you can make it work, go get Mitchell and form a dynamic duo

I'm leaning towards rolling the dice on Mitchell - and paying what would certainly be a big price to get him. To me he moves the needle a LOT more than a guy like Bridges. Ideally we get him without giving up Randle and DVD/Hart. But I don't know if that's possible. And Cleveland, if they decide to trade him, is likely going to prioritize getting a wing in return.
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Jim in Fairfax : 5/28/2024 12:15 pm : link
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.


He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.


Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?



It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.

I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.
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Jon In NYC : 5/28/2024 12:30 pm : link
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doesn’t get traded for a star, one trade I saw on twitter that I actually kinda love is Bogie, a first this year and one of the protected picks for Colin Sexton.


He was the guy I wanted at the deadline, I agree he’s perfect for the IQ role. Utah is a pain in the neck to deal with on trades, as we learned a few years ago, but I would love this addition. We need a little more scoring punch off the bench.


Forget it. Ainge is trying to build a young winner. Why would he trade a good player in his prime for a guy who’s 35 and near the end?



It’s not about Bogie it’s about the picks. Bogie probably would get cut since he’s only 2 mil guaranteed.


I get it. He’s not going to do that for the 25th pick and a protected first. He wants opportunities for future picks to turn into lottery picks. Think 2 future unrestricted picks, plus two unrestricted swaps. His demand will be something close to that.


I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.
the Jazz  
Enzo : 5/28/2024 12:33 pm : link
as an org don't appear to be in any hurry to contend (for now). Seems like Ainge can take his time and tread water. So if the offers don't blow him away he can hold onto Sexton until his deal expires in 25/26.
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Jim in Fairfax : 5/28/2024 12:37 pm : link
In comment 16525733 Jon In NYC said:
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I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.

I don’t think anyone is giving that either. But what incentive does Ainge have to trade away Sexton unless it’s for a significant overpay?
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Jon In NYC : 5/28/2024 1:32 pm : link
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I don’t think anyone is giving two unrestricted and two swaps for a 6th man. Maybe I’m wrong but I think he should be gettable at some level.


I don’t think anyone is giving that either. But what incentive does Ainge have to trade away Sexton unless it’s for a significant overpay?


Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.
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Jim in Fairfax : 5/28/2024 1:52 pm : link
In comment 16525779 Jon In NYC said:
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Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.

Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.
FYI Fred Katz and Bondy did a podcast  
nygiants16 : 5/28/2024 2:51 pm : link
havnt listened to it yet but if you are subscribed to Katz and Shoot it is on there
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Jon In NYC : 5/28/2024 3:57 pm : link
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Only if they really want to bottom out. It is worth noting that if you expect him to leave his value will only go down the closer he gets to FA. Not too dissimilar to Donovan.


Even if that’s true, Ainge is under no immediate pressure to trade Sexton. He would have every reason to stretch trade negotiations out for months as he did with Mitchell. The Knicks need to move bogdanovic by the end of June . The dynamics are not in the Knicks favor.


Stretch it out and the main buyer then can’t offer you anything which I don’t think makes sense.
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Jim in Fairfax : 5/28/2024 9:14 pm : link
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Stretch it out and the main buyer then can’t offer you anything which I don’t think makes sense.

What makes the Knicks the main buyer? And in any case: the Knicks were the main buyer for Mitchell and you see how that worked out.
KAT  
Jon In NYC : 5/28/2024 9:28 pm : link
is having an absolute nightmare series. Just completely tanking not only their current season but also his value in the offseason.

Ant not looking great either
RE: KAT  
nygiants16 : 5/28/2024 9:37 pm : link
In comment 16526186 Jon In NYC said:
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is having an absolute nightmare series. Just completely tanking not only their current season but also his value in the offseason.

Ant not looking great either


Get ready for the rumors of Kat to the Knicks
Fortunately  
Jon In NYC : 5/28/2024 9:46 pm : link
this front office has convinced me that they're not that dumb.
Towns is probably a better fit next to Brunson  
nygiants16 : 5/28/2024 10:07 pm : link
and maybe more talented than Randle but man is he soft and i dont think he fits the makeup of this team, he doesnt have that dog
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