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BrettNYG10 : 5/26/2024 9:13 am
Good morning, Carl.

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It will be interesting to see what changes are made.  
Will Shine : 5/26/2024 9:24 am : link
I have faith that the staff does deep evaluation dives into the games and keeps a close eye on practices.

Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?

Stay tuned.
What time is puck drop, pls?  
ColHowPepper : 5/26/2024 9:29 am : link
Have to navigate day
RE: What time is puck drop, pls?  
pjcas18 : 5/26/2024 9:31 am : link
In comment 16524725 ColHowPepper said:
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Have to navigate day


3pm ET
pj, is that air time for broadcast  
ColHowPepper : 5/26/2024 9:44 am : link
or actual puck drop? Thank you
RE: It will be interesting to see what changes are made.  
SJGiant : 5/26/2024 9:50 am : link
In comment 16524724 Will Shine said:
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I have faith that the staff does deep evaluation dives into the games and keeps a close eye on practices.

Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?

Stay tuned.


My opinion is that Gus and Rempe stay in the lineup. I would believe that Vessey is out and probably Kakko comes back. We shall see.
RE: It will be interesting to see what changes are made.  
BC Eagles94 : 5/26/2024 10:03 am : link
In comment 16524724 Will Shine said:
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I have faith that the staff does deep evaluation dives into the games and keeps a close eye on practices.

Will Kakko be back? Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control?

Stay tuned.


The Rangers are 9-3 these playoffs, you're not going to see any major changes. With Vesey out today that gets Kakko back in the lineup. I think the only decision to be made is, does Lavi keep Rempe in there? Or does he get Wheeler back in the lineup? I'd be good with either. Panthers are tough and lay hard hits, see Vesey being week to week with a shoulder injury. So having Rempe in there makes sense. But if Lavi doesn't trust Rempe enough defensively in a tough road game with FL getting last line change, then this could be the perfect opportunity to get Wheeler back in and see what he could do.
RE: pj, is that air time for broadcast  
pjcas18 : 5/26/2024 10:15 am : link
In comment 16524734 ColHowPepper said:
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or actual puck drop? Thank you


It is listed as start time. Puck drop I'd guess not long after. IOW it's not a 3:30 puck drop after 30 min pre-game nonsense. it may be 3:10 or something though after anthems, etc..
RE: It will be interesting to see what changes are made.  
Gman11 : 5/26/2024 10:47 am : link
In comment 16524724 Will Shine said:
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Will Kakko be back? Probably, but maybe on the 4th line.
Is this a time to bring back Wheeler? No. He's old and slow and that is not a good combination.
Does Brodzinski give us Roslovic's speed but with more grit? Yes. Roslovic stinks
Does Rempe play in an away game where matchups are in FL's control? I have joked about the legend of Matt Rempe, but he did what the team needed for him to do, bang bodies, forecheck, be responsible in his own zone. He did all that.
Do we sub Jones for Gustafsson for a bit more play making and better puck control? No. Gus is a more physical player, is more seasoned and is good offensively. At this point and especially against this team, Jones is only an injury replacement.

JMO


I don't get why anyone...  
BC Eagles94 : 5/26/2024 10:58 am : link
would want to see Brodzinski in the lineup. He's a career AHLer. He had the best season of his career this year with 19 points in 57 games. Roslovic has never had a season with that little point production. Why anyone would want Brodzinski in there over Roslovic is beyond me.
RE: I don't get why anyone...  
Gman11 : 5/26/2024 11:04 am : link
In comment 16524752 BC Eagles94 said:
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would want to see Brodzinski in the lineup. He's a career AHLer. He had the best season of his career this year with 19 points in 57 games. Roslovic has never had a season with that little point production. Why anyone would want Brodzinski in there over Roslovic is beyond me.


Expectations. You don't expect a lot of offense from Jonny B. What you expect is some forechecking, some hustle and getting the puck deep. For the most part, he does that. The expectations for Roslovic are for more offense. His offense isn't better than Jonny B without the forechecking and hustle.
Further to my earlier post focusing on D  
Will Shine : 5/26/2024 11:06 am : link
Yes we are 9-3 but 4 came VS the worst team in the playoffs.

We can't keep relying on Shesty as savior. The offensive production by our D, including getting the puck out of our zone, has really fallen off. Partly due to Fox's probable injury. I hold my breath every time Trouba has the puck on his stick in the D zone. Gus has not played at the level when he subbed for Fox. Maybe it's age-related stamina?

Jones played well and showed he is not a liability in the D zone. He excels at getting the puck out. Pair him with Trouba and reunite Miller and Schneider.
Options for replacing  
SJGiant : 5/26/2024 11:17 am : link
Vesey in the lineup. Look at option 3. That was my crazy option for game 2 to change the lineup. Maybe the author was reading that thread from two days ago.
Options for replacing Vesey - ( New Window )
You do realize Bobrovsky  
pjcas18 : 5/26/2024 11:30 am : link
has faced more scoring chances than Shesterkin, right?

In the moneypuck simulation, the Rangers win game 1 ~60% of the time. However, as we all know if you don't score you will lose 100% of the games you play, so Igor's goalie play was made irrelevant by the lack of scoring, but sometimes stats provide context and help frame what you're seeing.

Both games so far (in this two game series) the Panthers have had 2.3 or less xGF). The Rangers have done a really good job of allowing zone time without allowing scoring chances. So much so, it may be part of their play. Keep everything to the outside. clog up the middle. block shots and transition.

Igor is playing great, but he's has not been a "savior" in fact you could argue in game 1 he did more to hurt the team than help them (beyond what he is expected to do). He had a negative expected goals saved in game 1.

Igor basically stole game 3 vs CAR (3-2 OT win) and played really well in games 1 and 2 vs CAR (above expectations) since then he has mostly made the saves he's expected to make.
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ColHowPepper : 5/26/2024 12:00 pm : link
- can't help but think that continuing to allow so much defensive zone time will, sooner or later vs very good teams, bite them in their arses, esp. with Fox now on the cusp of being a liability. JT always a wild card and Gus has a lot of wear. Heavy burdens on KAM, Schneider, and Lindgren (see Gus). I think we'll see Jones sooner or later.

- Wheeler? heh, he didn't exactly set the 'first line' on fire when healthy. He went, what ~ 20 games before notching a goal? We saw his play, he is slow. Being slow, he's not great on the backcheck. His experience is 'bout only thing going for him.

- agree w/ most what BC and Gmen say

- Kappo, for jiminy crickets' sake!! Look at the GA stats Greg posted on Friday. He set up the Schneider breakaway with a perfect pass from his BL and set up a score vs CAR with a similar outlet, iirc. Maybe Lavvy wants to see more fire, more aggression, from him, there is a phlegmatic aspect to KK's game, but he's strong on the puck and defensively 95% responsible, which puts him right up there with Trocheck and a bit ahead of Laf. Roslovic shows me very little at this stage of the game.

- will be interesting to see how Maurice deploys his lines vs ours with last change. I'm looking for Cuylle to do some stuff: he has been so close, so often these playoffs.

- Zib, Kreider, Panarin ??? You never know but the team needs something more from them, a lot more. Gotta hope '24 is not '22 and '23 redux.

- pj, yeah, 3:10 sounds about right. Got to meet friends for early dinner and requested a table near the bar TV. Life of the party (:
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Route 9 : 5/26/2024 12:24 pm : link
I don't care if they win every game 1-0 or 7-0
Got under Florida's skin in game 2  
larryflower37 : 5/26/2024 12:35 pm : link
And drew penalties that's the way you beat Florida.
Gotta stay physical and let them make mistakes but we need to get the power play going it's what got us here.
We need speed on the ice and play fast they will commit stupid penalties.
Personally, I'd put Kakko and Wheeler in  
Anakim : 5/26/2024 1:50 pm : link
With Vesey and Roslovic out
I may be in the minority but Roslovic adds speed to lineup  
Rick in Dallas : 5/26/2024 2:01 pm : link
I would keep him in the lineup and add Kakko to replace Vesey.
Leave Rempe in the lineup.
Rick,  
ColHowPepper : 5/26/2024 2:07 pm : link
I get that (speed), and between Wheeler and Roslovic, I'd probably go the same way. He's certainly more game fit than Wheeler, but dang he has to be willing to check with more than his fly by stick. Drury's adds this year have been so underwhelming.
I actually thought Roslovic  
nygfaninorlando : 5/26/2024 2:22 pm : link
and Wenberg we’re both good in the OT Friday night. Seemed to find some chemistry as the game went along. Hopefully we see more of that today and hopefully KK in for Vesey.
I’ve actually liked what Wennberg brings  
redbeard : 5/26/2024 2:29 pm : link
He’s doing his job as a third line center. Would always love more point production but he isn’t hurting us
RE: I may be in the minority but Roslovic adds speed to lineup  
Servo 2.0 : 5/26/2024 2:49 pm : link
In comment 16524796 Rick in Dallas said:
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I would keep him in the lineup and add Kakko to replace Vesey.
Leave Rempe in the lineup.


I agree with this approach.
Looks like  
RodneyHamp : 5/26/2024 2:53 pm : link
KK in for Vesey, Wheeler out.
D  
Will Shine : 5/26/2024 2:56 pm : link
Same
Let's GOOOOOOOO!  
rnargi : 5/26/2024 3:07 pm : link
Time to take control!
RE: Let's GOOOOOOOO!  
Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:28 pm : link
In comment 16524822 rnargi said:
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Time to take control!


Instead, stupid pass, stupid turnover took a penalty and Florida leads 1-0
Not sure what Fox was doing there  
Essex : 5/26/2024 3:28 pm : link
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RE: Not sure what Fox was doing there  
Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16524835 Essex said:
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When he got worked during the penalty or the goal?
Here's a link to today's game:  
Optimus-NY : 5/26/2024 3:29 pm : link
#LGR


New York Rangers @ Florida Panthers: Game 3 ECF - ABC/ESPN - 3:20 pm EDT start - ( New Window )
RE: RE: Not sure what Fox was doing there  
Essex : 5/26/2024 3:29 pm : link
In comment 16524836 Route 9 said:
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In comment 16524835 Essex said:


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When he got worked during the penalty or the goal?

Yes, he didn’t react and just stood there
This is the first time I've thought this all year  
Bear vs Shark : 5/26/2024 3:30 pm : link
but Florida just looks better than us. Rangers legit just look overmatched last few games.
On the goal  
Essex : 5/26/2024 3:30 pm : link
......  
Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:31 pm : link
Get more excited to see Rempe on the ice than the top lines lol
We are just letting them get clean shots  
Essex : 5/26/2024 3:31 pm : link
On the goal from the crease. Unreal
RE: This is the first time I've thought this all year  
Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:32 pm : link
In comment 16524839 Bear vs Shark said:
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but Florida just looks better than us. Rangers legit just look overmatched last few games.


Yep. Rangers are in trouble. Florida gets it to two goals and I doubt they'll match that.
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Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:33 pm : link
Any day now Mika, Bread, Laf
Fox is a liability skating  
Rick in Dallas : 5/26/2024 3:33 pm : link
From what I observe
We all know he is injured
Panthers taking advantage of it
RE: Fox is a liability skating  
Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:36 pm : link
In comment 16524845 Rick in Dallas said:
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From what I observe
We all know he is injured
Panthers taking advantage of it


The whole team looks like they're in slow motion
Can’t connect on the second pass  
Gforce11 : 5/26/2024 3:36 pm : link
They’re playing lifeless. Wake up! LGR
Yes! Beautiful pass by Trouba  
rebel yell : 5/26/2024 3:38 pm : link
and nice finish by Laffy.
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Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:38 pm : link
There ya go!!! Laf
BOOOOM!  
rnargi : 5/26/2024 3:38 pm : link
My man Laffy!
Goodrow?  
Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:39 pm : link
Scooooore!
Yeaaaah!  
rnargi : 5/26/2024 3:40 pm : link
A goodie from Goodrow!
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Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:40 pm : link
Wow Mika come on
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Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:41 pm : link
Oops miller
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Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:42 pm : link
Nice block by Trouba
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Route 9 : 5/26/2024 3:43 pm : link
Why the hell was the play stopped?
Ok good kill there  
nygfaninorlando : 5/26/2024 3:45 pm : link
Now stay out of the box.
….  
redbeard : 5/26/2024 3:46 pm : link
Nice dive Rheinhart


You fucking slidmark
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